₦airaland Forum

One of the major problems facing the Medical graduands now as regards Internship placing is as a result of the "UNREST" in the North Western

states of our dear country as fresh graduands are scared of traveling down to such states for placement as a result mounting pressure on the few

facilities in other Zones which are overwhelmed by a larger variable and it is sad to note that most Health facilities in such crisis prone states

have a higher capacity to absorb most prospective interns compared to other zones.

jaycee687:
I just can't work in Nigeria as a doctor.

And why is that ?














Hope I'm not stalking?

Done

No respect and no good pay.

STFUareyouGod:
And why is that ?














Hope I'm not stalking?

Lol. And where do you get all these? (Respect and good pay)

jaycee687:
No respect and no good pay.

eleojo23:
Internship program is not supposed to be a job search. It is part of the medical graduates program necessary for full licence to practice and that is why there are specified approved centres/institutions.
-Internship placement should not be something they should struggle to get.
As for the job search, many people, after internship and NYSC still enter the labour market in search of jobs like other graduates so you don't need to worry about them being spoon-fed.
There are currently many medical professionals looking for job.

Why is getting admission into medical school "something we need to struggle to get?" Why do we need to write UTME and Post-UTME despite having 5 credits in our WASSCE?

If you can answer those questions, you should find the reason why one should struggle to get internship placements in the various certified establishments.

I think the concerned bodies should adopt the council of legal education's practice of posting law school students to designated law firms. The council has a list of law firms and state ministries of justice it partners with. As a student, all you need to do is indicate your preferred state and local govt area, then you get posted automatically. No hassles.

Shop for books. Check my signature.

OP u are on point. so many people may not understand our plight, the depression and frustration that comes with stagnancy. I have travelled to most of all the states in Nigeria all in search of an internship placement(Just 1yr) the most annoying one was when I went to illorin (UITH) after buying the form for 5k, travelling for over 10hrs by road to d hospital, the risk, d very bad road only to finish the so called interview and only 8 persons were taken from my own speciality(haematology) in a hospital as big as UITH.if the government wants let them look into it as for me, they cannot hold me down. Ahead ahead poultry farming on a larger scale. No dulling!!! Notin is stopping us. We balling hard.

bellville:
I think the concerned bodies should adopt the council of legal education's practice of posting law school students to designated law firms. The council has a list of law firms and state ministries of justice it partners with. As a student, all you need to do is indicate your preferred state and local govt area, then you get posted automatically. No hassles.

Shop for books. Check my signature.

great suggestion. thanks boss

Residency placement is another rate limiting step in this pathway called Medicine.

The thing tire person joor

Obinoscopy:
Why is getting admission into medical school "something we need to struggle to get?" Why do we need to write UTME and Post-UTME despite having 5 credits in our WASSCE?

If you can answer those questions, you should find the reason why one should struggle to get internship placements in the various certified establishments.

You shouln't place getting admission and internship on the same level. There are two different things.

Internship is an extension of the medical program.
There are already approved centres with enough slots to go round but corruption and a lot of irregularities has made it difficult for these graduates to get these slots.

Look at the NYSC program for instance. It is almost mandatory for every graduate to serve before seeking employment. Does anyone struggle to get NYSC posting?

So, in the same way, we are saying that the regulatory bodies of these medical professions should adopt the practice of posting graduates to these approved centres. That way, it will be mandatory for these centres to take in the graduates.

Op move down North, it is less competative here. As for employment exams, it should continue, the calibre of medical graduates these days call for concern.

masterchi:
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please how much do you sell this plot? i hope it is 50 by hundred. is it a famliy land?

My own opinion base on my interaction with colleagues during interview
Cause 1.corruption: colleagues from ss n se confessed that officials in dr own region sell house job employment letter for 300k.a colleague of mine told me that on one occasion he had begged wt 150k bt d amount was rejected and also said that dos same set of govt officials sell d postgraduate residency employment letter for 1million naira.by so doing it make indigenes of ds areas run to oda states/region wr dey wont need to pay anyone such an amount . by so doing dey increase d pressure in dos areas.like d recent interview I attended in d north, out of 30 that sat for d exam, 7wr indigene of d state ,6 from kogi/kwara/zamfara/oyo.d remaining 17 wr from ss/se .odas case of corruption include chief medical directors employing less than d allotted slots to dr institution in oda to keep d remaining cash to dmselves.some even employ contract staff wr dey pay peanut to such contract staffs.
2: insurgency in d north east.its no longer news that ppl r running away from States like yobe ,borno,bauchi, gombe,adamawa.

versashee:
please how much do you sell this plot? i hope it is 50 by hundred. is it a famliy land?

lol. very affordable

When u think its hard to get a placement for housejob, then residency is a nut case. No harmonized program of placing prospective interns and residents in their appropriate programs. It's disheartening. Most of us have our primaries soon expiring.

masterchi:
lol. very affordable

i would like to acquire it as soon as possible to survey and obtain my C of O

Splendid idea!! Just wish most of this things can be put in place

Obinoscopy:
Why is getting admission into medical school "something we need to struggle to get?" Why do we need to write UTME and Post-UTME despite having 5 credits in our WASSCE?

If you can answer those questions, you should find the reason why one should struggle to get internship placements in the various certified establishments.

Haba Obinoscopy! If house job is like admission then why is the license after graduation temporary with a time frame attached in which one must complete house job? Spots for internship were never meant to be contested.

emerich:
One of the major problems facing the Medical graduands now as regards Internship placing is as a result of the "UNREST" in the North Western

states of our dear country as fresh graduands are scared of traveling down to such states for placement as a result mounting pressure on the few

facilities in other Zones which are overwhelmed by a larger variable and it is sad to note that most Health facilities in such crisis prone states

have a higher capacity to absorb most prospective interns compared to other zones.

Forget the unrest. I know 5 doctors who just came back from maiduguri yesterday after staying there for a month waiting for a housejob placement in either the specialist hospital or UMTH. They even helped out in management of some of the recent bomb victims when the doctors available were overwhelmed by the number of patients. Even went through an interview but were finally rejected based on place of origin while the only northerner present for the interview got a slot. It's that bad.
It's either you have the connection or you pay up.

Kcinho:
Forget the unrest. I know 5 doctors who just came back from maiduguri yesterday after staying there for a month waiting for a housejob placement in either the specialist hospital or UMTH. They even helped out in management of some of the recent bomb victims when the doctors available were overwhelmed by the number of patients. Even went through an interview but were finally rejected based on place of origin while the only northerner present for the interview got a slot. It's that bad.
It's either you have the connection or you pay up.

why were they rejected? I thought the north has shortage of medical doctors. Do they use connections there too

Obinoscopy:
Why is getting admission into medical school "something we need to struggle to get?" Why do we need to write UTME and Post-UTME despite having 5 credits in our WASSCE?

If you can answer those questions, you should find the reason why one should struggle to get internship placements in the various certified establishments.

Bros chill cos it's obvious you know nothing about medical internship/housemanship.
It is compulsory just like law school before you go for your NYSC. And there are designated hospitals licensed for the internship.
For doctors, if you don't get a place within a stipulated time your license expires and you pay for another license before you can start hunting again. So it's not same with normal hustle for job which every doctor will still do after NYSC.
No housemanship, no NYSC.

versashee:
i would like to acquire it as soon as possible to survey and obtain my C of O

it's actually not available but make an offer maybe I may change my mind.

If you need Internship posting quickly, you look towards the Northern part of Nigeria.
You 'll thank me later.

justirich:
why were they rejected? I thought the north has shortage of medical doctors. Do they use connections there too

Of course the hospital has some slots available( about 12, which made the hospital call for interview. Maybe they were disappointed cos of the 6 people present for the interview only 1 was from the north, others were Igbo. So only the northern guy got the job.
There are spaces in the northeast but they rather remain short of staff than give "nyamiri".
A lot of tribalism, nepotism and fraud going on in this internship stuff.

If you are looking for an internship in nigeria Visit stutern.com

All the best

Manifest

k4kings:
OP u are on point. so many people may not understand our plight, the depression and frustration that comes with stagnancy. I have travelled to most of all the states in Nigeria all in search of an internship placement(Just 1yr) the most annoying one was when I went to illorin (UITH) after buying the form for 5k, travelling for over 10hrs by road to d hospital, the risk, d very bad road only to finish the so called interview and only 8 persons were taken from my own speciality(haematology) in a hospital as big as UITH.if the government wants let them look into it as for me, they cannot hold me down. Ahead ahead poultry farming on a larger scale. No dulling!!! Notin is stopping us. We balling hard.

Good one. I would like to contact you as regards the poultry stuff. Sent you a NL email. Pls reply

justirich:
A proposal for the proper regulation of Medical Internship/Housemanship

Section I
Critical Challenges been faced by Prospective Interns/House Officers
There is an ongoing crisis in the Nigerian Medical Internship/Housemanship placement which has plagued its prospective interns/house officers for years. The mandatory internship/housemanship program is an extension of our training, where we acquire more comprehensive clinical training as we are dealing with the most sacred form of life, the human life and as such there is the very need for us in the health sector to be efficient and competent in all ramifications. Having said that, this mandatory one year program has virtually become a stumbling block to prospective interns/house officers as there are no well structured and organised modalities put in place for securing placement. You can imagine a situation where a graduate from Medicine, Pharmarcy, Medical Laboratory Science, Radiography, Physiotherapy, Nutrition and Dietitrics, Optometry will graduate from the University after five or six years, then stay back at home for additional two to three years or more pending when him/her can secure placement in any of the accredited hospitals. This unneccessary delay caused by the irregularities in the process is uncalled for and grossly unacceptable. To worsen the situation, most hospitals are now in the habit of selecting just a few from the thousands of the crowd that put in for the application. In addition, most of them sell their forms for as high as N5000, N3000, and N2000, to all candidates only to take less than 30 applicants from the thousands that bought the form leaving the others helpless after the release of the interview results.

Prospective interns/house officers risk their lives nationwide in the bid to attend interview in various parts of the nation and at the end of the day, they are disappointed, and it is not a question of them not passing the interview exams but most often, this can be attributed to multiple factors such as not having the connection, not having the funds to probably pay for a slot, the politics that is inherent in the hospital management board, the small size capacity of the laboratory, for instance which may not be able to cater for or contain all the intern med lab scientists, and so many other unforeseen factors. The most grievous of all is the sales of forms to thousands of candidates and end up taking less than thirty (30) from the crowd, together with the politics been played in the entire process, which in most hospitals, the process is far from transparent and merit. From our own perspective, this appear to be tantamount to exploiting and taking undue advantage of the helpless candidates financially, who are in dire need of securing placement for the mandatory one year internship/housemanship program which precedes the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC). Because of this delay in the process of securing placement, prospective interns/house officers are going through hard times, wasting at home, getting weary and are seen like people who never actually graduated from school since they are not going to service immediately as this is what is obtainable among fresh university graduates. Again, the cumbersome predicament will always result in a situation whereby a 200level or 300level student in another discipline outside the medical field in the university will graduate and go for service while a medical graduate who must have graduated some two to three years back will still be wasting time at home since no internship/housemanship, no service. This is grossly unacceptable. Prospective interns/house officers are therefore requesting the Federal Government, the National Assembly, National Universities Commission and the various regulatory bodies to urgently step into the situation and resolve this crisis by regulating internship/housemanship for the entire Medical graduates.
Having pointed out the enormous challenges been faced by prospective interns/house officers, below are some few recommendations to aid in the regulation of the entire process and bring a permanent halt to the worrisome challenges.

The beginning of the trial. Medical student's superiority.

justirich:
Section II
Recommendations:

1. There is a need for the one year internship/housemanship placement to be regulated just like the National Youth Service Corps, which therefore warrants a body to be set up and charged with the duty of posting medical graduates for the mandatory internship/housemanship program.

2. The said body above will work closely with the various governing council bodies/universities to ensure the universities adhere strictly to the regulation of the council bodies as regards intake of fresh students into the various disciplines, so as to control the output which will be a function of the number and available acredited hospitals.

3. All hospitals' form for internship/housemanship should be made free of charge as obtainable in some few hospitals, since as fresh graduates, we are not occupationally engaged yet. Financially the cost of purchasing a form for say for as high as N5000 may be difficult for some individuals judging by the status quo of our economy.

4. As a matter of urgency, Federal government need to upgrade and properly equip our hospitals to facilitate and enhance further training of medical graduates as this is one of the major setbacks in the entire process.

5. The examination is not neccessary when a medical graduate is qualified and provisionally licensed by their council body. However, should it be done, it has to be for only the few candidates posted to the particular hospital. And should a candidate fail, a resit exam may be considered since the hospital capacity is still not filled up yet. All these modalities will go a long way in curbing the unneccessary delays being experienced by prospective interns/house officers.

Go back to school.

justirich:
6. The maximum capacity of each accredited hospital will have to be placed on record so as to avoid overflooding of a particular hospital.

7. Final exam in medical schools nationwide should be administered quarterly and within a certain period in a bid to synchronize the graduation of new doctors/interns and appropriate placement within that period.

8. The regulatory bodies: MDCN, PSN, MLSCN, other bodies, ministry of health and the federal government should come up with a structured approach to implement the placement of newly inducted interns and doctors through matching of candidates to various hospitals for internship.

9. If number seven above cannot be achieved, then all teaching hospitals should be made to absorb their interns and doctors who pass at first sitting and resit candidates should be matched to various federal medical centers/general hospitals nationwide including private hospitals too.

10. The salary scheme and packages for interns in all hospitals should be synchronized to reduce the monopoly of interest in certain hospitals.

11. The regulatory bodies (MDCN, PSN, MLSCN etc) should also increase the number of hospitals accredited for internship placements so as to cater for the increasing populace of graduating new interns.

Thanks for reading. Pls copy this recommendations and help spread this message.

There is a Twitter campaign also. Pls do well to tweet about this situation to all relevant bodies. The hashtag is #RegulateMedicalInternship

This is the time when all other area of specialization need to be given equal attention. I have this medical phobia. I hope u guys change your attitude toward other area of specialization.