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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:50pm On Oct 16, 2015
EVarn:
Nonsense,encircle us for what?,70% of BH militants are from Cameroon and Chad,these countries need foreign military aid as much as possible.
Moreover,their isnt any AFRICOM base in Cameroon,therefore it is obvious that US footprint in Cameroon is temporal.
Lol,threatening Niger,Chad and Cameroon with diplomatic,economic and military action will pitt us against France,which is a nuclear power.The dynamics in SADC is vastly different from that in ECOWAS; 9 of the 14 ECOWAS countries are former french colonies,if we openly defy western tendencies without proper regional concensus,we may end up losing regional support.
SA in recent years have defied its former colony including the French who sees us as an interfering regional power. This was one of reasons things went wrong in CAR when regional former French colonies abandoned there mandate in CAR. France even tried to influence the AU chairmanship vote and we SA overcame them including you Nigerians who opposed us.

So Nigeria the self proclaimed strongest black nation on earth with a population double the size of France are now scared of the French because they are a nuclear power. What a lame excuse this smells of Nigerian inferiority complex as usual.

The french are by no means in a position to even use nuclear weapons on a state that cannot deploy nukes themselves otherwise France itself as a major power would seize to exist.

The Dynamics in SADC is no different from any other region in africa where its former political and colonial masters still want to influence policies and electoral outcomes. Zimbabwe is a casing point where Britain a nuclear power by the way, tried to politically economically and almost militarily wise tried to effect regime change and failed, while SA stood firm behind Zim and barred the brunt of its economic migrant problems.

Western tendencies should not matter in a nation with africa's biggest GDP and by far its largest population who should be firm enough to dictate its own policies into its region of and sphere of influence without fear of foreign powers.

This is a indictment on Nigeria as a hole.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:58pm On Oct 16, 2015
DictatorZAR:
Your army is useless look at how the Americans will now get involved in a problem that your poorly trained soldiers created due to utter incompetence.
Your useless SANDF and Special forces allowed Seleka to take over C.A.R.

Your useless SANDF 21 battalion and SF allowed Rhino poachers to rule SADC.

Cameroon has always had a NATO power inside their country from before till after their independence, France has permanent military base in Cameroon. As a sovereign nation, Cameroon is free to invite America to join France. It's none of our business.

Last time Chad, Cameroon, Niger were making YouTube videos for BBC claiming they were saving Nigeria instead of blocking their borders to stop escaping Boko Haram fighters being pursued by a rampaging Blitzkrieg of the Nigerian black Napoleons, you were praising Chad and Cameroon, now Boko Haram has relocated to those countries, and I no longer see you praising them.

Your foolish praise brought them to the point of accepting American troops in their soil. Sure Cameroonian and Chadian armies enjoyed the January-April praises of rëtardëd ïmbëciles like you...now they are in trouble for their glory hunting during Nigeria's final offensive.

Law of Karma.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:05pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
Your useless SANDF and Special forces allowed Seleka to take over C.A.R.

Your useless SANDF 21 battalion and SF allowed Rhino poachers to rule SADC.

Cameroon has always had a NATO power inside their country from before till after their independence, France has permanent military base in Cameroon. As a sovereign nation, Cameroon is free to invite America to join France. It's none of our business.

Last time Chad, Cameroon, Niger were making YouTube videos for BBC claiming they were saving Nigeria instead of blocking their borders to stop escaping Boko Haram fighters being pursued by a rampaging Blitzkrieg of the Nigerian black Napoleons, you were praising Chad and Cameroon, now Boko Haram has relocated to those countries, and I no longer see you praising them.

Your foolish praise brought them to the point of accepting American troops in their soil. Sure Cameroonian and Chadian armies enjoyed the January-April praises of rëtardëd ïmbëciles like you...now they are in trouble for their glory hunting during Nigeria's final offensive.

Law of Karma.
SANDF special forces were not send to stop coup d'etat from happening, you useless fake military researcher.

France were entrusted with keeping peace but you won't say anything about how they neglected their responsibility of abandoning their posts.

Let me remind you that we can never stoop to this level that you see under.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
I am comparing Nigerian army and South African army, then you reply me by saying SANDF has jet fighters and attack helicopters , or maybe it's not only @Fighter Pilot that does not know the difference between army and air force, you South Africans seems to have a nationwide brain rëtärdation epidemic
.
Ok let's get to it show me your GBADS since you comparing armies.

The only retar.d here is you who continually shift goal post and jump from one argument to another when you've been proven wrong.

You still haven't answered Patches question by giving us citation on your 6000 combat hours of your F-7's, while your air force chiefs tell the world your jets are all obsolete.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
Your useless SANDF and Special forces allowed Seleka to take over C.A.R.

Your useless SANDF 21 battalion and SF allowed Rhino poachers to rule SADC.

Cameroon has always had a NATO power inside their country from before till after their independence, France has permanent military base in Cameroon. As a sovereign nation, Cameroon is free to invite America to join France. It's none of our business.

Last time Chad, Cameroon, Niger were making YouTube videos for BBC claiming they were saving Nigeria instead of blocking their borders to stop escaping Boko Haram fighters being pursued by a rampaging Blitzkrieg of the Nigerian black Napoleons, you were praising Chad and Cameroon, now Boko Haram has relocated to those countries, and I no longer see you praising them.

Your foolish praise brought them to the point of accepting American troops in their soil. Sure Cameroonian and Chadian armies enjoyed the January-April praises of rëtardëd ïmbëciles like you...now they are in trouble for their glory hunting during Nigeria's final offensive.

Law of Karma.
What useless post is this shiiit here.

This is the very reason I always call you fake and childish.

Tell me where in this modern world has 250 men without air support defended a country or city against 3000 man 4500km away.

Is your level of reasoning, how desperate and pathetic can one be.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:35pm On Oct 16, 2015
DictatorZAR:
What useless post is this shiiit here.

This is the very reason I always call you fake and childish.

Tell me where in this modern world has 250 men without air support defended a country or city against 3000 man 4500km away.
SAAF arrived with air support and landed Gripen jets, Rooivalk helicopters, etc in Congo airport withing striking range of Bangui to blow Seleka's head, but your army refused to reinforce and the troops hiding under French soldiers ampits demanded to be allowed to escape back home to sleep with their wives....SANDF chickened out of the new MoU mandate to protect propert and save lives in C.A.R.

Go read Nigerian military history of Liberian and Sierra Leonean wars.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:38pm On Oct 16, 2015
FighterPilot:
SANDF special forces were not send to stop coup d'etat from happening, you useless fake military researcher.

France were entrusted with keeping peace but you won't say anything about how they neglected their responsibility of abandoning their posts.

Let me remind you that we can never stoop to this level that you see under.
Let me remind you that Nigerian army has forced Boko Haram to stoop low to this level and we will do same to SANDF
.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:42pm On Oct 16, 2015
DictatorZAR:
You still haven't answered Patches question by giving us citation on your 6000 combat hours of your F-7's, while your air force chiefs tell the world your jets are all obsolete.
Quote where I ever said F-7 jets flew 6,000 combat hours.

I said NAF flew 6,000 combat sorties as an air force, all aircraft types.

Learn to read or get free eye glasses under ANC social welfare package for lazy black men
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:47pm On Oct 16, 2015
DictatorZAR:
Ok let's get to it show me your GBADS since you comparing armies.
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:49pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
.
Your air defence system is outdated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Army_Air_Defence_Artillery_Formation
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:50pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
Let me remind you that Nigerian army has forced Boko Haram to stoop low to this level and we will do same to SANDF
.
In your dreams!!!

We are not BH, we are the military that has AF, Navy and Army and weapons which you do not even have. BH with only handful of weapons let you to jump the fence and teamed up with your friends in what you called Joint task force just to defeat it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:55pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
SAAF arrived with air support and landed Gripen jets, Rooivalk helicopters, etc in Congo airport withing striking range of Bangui to blow Seleka's head, but your army refused to reinforce and the troops hiding under French soldiers ampits demanded to be allowed to escape back home to sleep with their wives....SANDF chickened out of the new MoU mandate to protect propert and save lives in C.A.R.

Go read Nigerian military history of Liberian and Sierra Leonean wars.
Chad and other regional countries asked Zuma not to invade CAR and place a further burden on there countries.
As a military researcher you would've known that Gripens were stationed in Lusaka and were ordered to return home when the meeting of Centrel African regional states asked SA not to attack CAR.

Liberia and Sierra Leon were peasant rebels and it took the intervention of Executive Outcomes a SA company to save your @asses on a number of times.

In Liberia and Sierra Leon you had thousands of troops deployed yet you had many failures.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/sierra/SIERLE99-04.htm

Go read on your human rights abuses in Sierra Leon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:09pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
.
Are you the so called military analysts really gone come here and tell us about your outdated old 16 GDF-02 guns.

SA has the latest Skyshield upgrade including the Umkhonto SAM and Starstreak which is by far more modern then your nigerian army relics.

Please continue embarrassing yourself fraud.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:15pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
SAAF arrived with air support and landed Gripen jets, Rooivalk helicopters, etc in Congo airport withing striking range of Bangui to blow Seleka's head, but your army refused to reinforce and the troops hiding under French soldiers ampits demanded to be allowed to escape back home to sleep with their wives....SANDF chickened out of the new MoU mandate to protect propert and save lives in C.A.R.

Go read Nigerian military history of Liberian and Sierra Leonean wars.
SANDF works under the command of the president who in turn has to receive guidance and approval from Parliament. We don't decide on our own to fight, there has to be the order to do so. If we fight on our own orders, who will finance the war and provide us with reinforcements? Parliament refused to support the SANDF countinued stay in CAR and immediately ordered for their withdrawal. ECCA also supported that decision.

I know Nigeria troops do not need orders from anyone to fight. That's why they go around torturing and beheading innocent people on the street.


http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/3d7366804f23615c912d9b1e5d06aea0/Most-of-SANDF-troops-out-of-CAR--20130404
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:23pm On Oct 16, 2015
agaugust:
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
.
Palm wine taking full effect now.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:21am On Oct 17, 2015
lionel4power:
[s]WE DEDUCE THROUGH LOGIC. UNLIKE YOU GUYS THAT ARGUE LIKE ZOMBIES... ASS-LICKING YOUR GOVERNMENT AND SWALLOWING LIES.

UNCHAIN YOURSELF FROM YOUR ZULU ZOMBIE HERITAGE

THEN WE CAN DISCUSS LIKE MEN.[/s]
We deal with facts here.

Not guesswork.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:22am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
I am comparing Nigerian army and South African army, then you reply me by saying SANDF has jet fighters and attack helicopters , or maybe it's not only @Fighter Pilot that does not know the difference between army and air force, you South Africans seems to have a nationwide brain rëtärdation epidemic
.
SANDF = Army + Airforce + Navy

Re.tard grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:23am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
Nigerian army has many weapons and equipment not known to 99.9% of the public, not even recorded on SIPRI or UN arms log.

Nigeria has GBADS and a data link system not fully explained for public information.
Hahahahahaha

Bullsh1t

No record = does not exist
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:25am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
Your useless SANDF and Special forces allowed Seleka to take over C.A.R.

Your useless SANDF 21 battalion and SF allowed Rhino poachers to rule SADC.

[s]Cameroon has always had a NATO power inside their country from before till after their independence, France has permanent military base in Cameroon. As a sovereign nation, Cameroon is free to invite America to join France. It's none of our business.

Last time Chad, Cameroon, Niger were making YouTube videos for BBC claiming they were saving Nigeria instead of blocking their borders to stop escaping Boko Haram fighters being pursued by a rampaging Blitzkrieg of the Nigerian black Napoleons, you were praising Chad and Cameroon, now Boko Haram has relocated to those countries, and I no longer see you praising them.

Your foolish praise brought them to the point of accepting American troops in their soil. Sure Cameroonian and Chadian armies enjoyed the January-April praises of rëtardëd ïmbëciles like you...now they are in trouble for their glory hunting during Nigeria's final offensive.

Law of Karma[/s]
1. Not our job to defend bangui

2. 21 Battalion + SF were not deployed primarily to stop Rhino poaching

Yet again Augbug has to twist facts to even come close to having an argument
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:26am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
SAAF arrived with air support and landed Gripen jets, Rooivalk helicopters, etc in Congo airport withing striking range of Bangui to blow Seleka's head, but your army refused to reinforce and the troops hiding under French soldiers ampits demanded to be allowed to escape back home to sleep with their wives....SANDF chickened out of the new MoU mandate to protect propert and save lives in C.A.R.[s]

Go read Nigerian military history of Liberian and Sierra Leonean wars.[/s]
No, that is not at all what happened.

Are you really this delusional or are you just looking for someone to talk to?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:28am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
Let me remind you that Nigerian army has forced Boko Haram to stoop low to this level and we will do same to SANDF
.
Boko Haram of 4000 men with no tanks/heavy weapons/air support stole over 40 towns and cities from 20 000 of you


What then do you think will happen when you face the SANDF? We are better equipped, armed and trained.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:29am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
Quote where I ever said F-7 jets flew 6,000 combat hours.

I said NAF flew 6,000 combat sorties as an air force, all aircraft types.

Learn to read or get free eye glasses under ANC social welfare package for lazy black men
cute

we few 18 000 hours
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:29am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
Quote where I ever said F-7 jets flew 6,000 combat hours.

I said NAF flew 6,000 combat sorties as an air force, all aircraft types.

Learn to read or get free eye glasses under ANC social welfare package for lazy black men
cute

we flew 18 000 hours
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:36am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
.
12-16 units of GDF-02

v

102 GDF-002 + 48 modified GDF-005 units.


Gee I wonder who wins grin grin grin

FYI, yours are ancient, ours are Skysheild. Get your facts straight

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:36am On Oct 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
Hahahahahaha

Bullsh1t

No record = does not exist
There are no records of Nigerian Skyguard but I showed you it exists. You Southies always said Nigerian army anti-aircraft guns have no radar guidance systems. Now we proved you wrong.

#WRECKED
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
DictatorZAR:
Are you the so called military analysts really gone come here and tell us about your outdated old 16 GDF-02 guns.

SA has the latest Skyshield upgrade including the Umkhonto SAM and Starstreak which is by far more modern then your nigerian army relics.

Please continue embarrassing yourself fraud.
As a military analyst, I confidently tell you that nobody in the public has details of Nigerian GDF whether 002 or 005 versions, their total numbers are also classified so nobody knows how many units we have.

Wanna bring up missiles? We are talking guns. No need to repeat Roland SAM, Blowpipe SAM, SA-7 SAM missiles of Nigeria. South African Starstreak is a joke and Umkhobto army version is still under development. Nothing in SANDF can match NA Rolands.

Patchesagain:
12-16 units of GDF-02

102 GDF-002 + 48 modified GDF-005 units.


Gee I wonder who wins grin grin grin

FYI, yours are ancient, ours are Skysheild. Get your facts straight
Nigerian systems details are not fully known, we bought Type 90 anti-aircraft guns circa year 2005, that's a modern weapon, so your Skyshield is NOT better.

Also, we have 40mm Bofors anti-aircraft with superior range more than 3 times that your GDF series.

Nigeria has Bofors with 12 km range, your South African GDF range is 4 km only shocked shocked



The series of Nigerian GDF is not known, they could be 005 series.

Nobody has numbers of Nigerian anti-aircraft guns, it's classified information.

We have more types of AAA guns than you, SANDF has only GDF, but Nigerian army has GDF, Bofors, Shilka, and Type 90.

FYI, SANDF GDF guns and Skyguard are a failure, your guns kïll yöur own SANDF soldiers instead of killing enemy aircraft.

You have a useless malfunctioning air defense system in SANDF, Nigerian Alpha jets will räpe your army to death tonguetongue
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:52am On Oct 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
cute

we flew 18 000 hours...
....of V.I.P transport
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:58am On Oct 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
Boko Haram of 4000 men with no tanks/heavy weapons/air support stole over 40 towns and cities from 20 000 of you


What then do you think will happen when you face the SANDF? We are better equipped, armed and trained.
SANDF trembles when they see Sudanese AK-47 boys in Toyota. SAAF has only 11 combat helicopters, NAF has about 40.

You say 4,000 Bokos held 40 towns....means 100 fighter per town. You manufacture numbers in your bedroom or you came to Nigeria to count Boko Haram fighters one by one....and they did not behead you?

Retärd
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:33am On Oct 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
12-16 units of GDF-02
v
102 GDF-002 + 48 modified GDF-005 units.
Gee I wonder who wins grin grin grin
FYI, yours are ancient, ours are Skysheild. Get your facts straight
NA air defence is down and out.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:47am On Oct 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
Boko Haram of 4000 men with no tanks/heavy weapons/air support stole over 40 towns and cities from 20 000 of you


What then do you think will happen when you face the SANDF? We are better equipped, armed and trained.
Nigerian military has war history against only rebels. They have never fought against another country which is equally or better equipped than them.


SA fought against German troops, Russia, Angola, and Cuba all of which were countries which had Navies, Air forces with modern fighter jets and Armies which were well equipped.

How do you judge your military progress against rebels and still see it as the best when you have never faced a capable enemy that levels or is above your size? It is like you will become an adult who will go around boasting about his prowess in the face of children and yet don't pick people your own size.


Such militaries do not stand in history books.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:12am On Oct 17, 2015
agaugust:
Nigerian army has many weapons and equipment not known to 99.9% of the public, not even recorded on SIPRI or UN arms log.

Nigeria has GBADS and a data link system not fully explained for public information.
Nigeria has zero data link. Which data link do they use because we have only few data links in the world? LINK-16 maybe?

NATO countries will never sell you data link even if you like because you will intercept their communication and even spy on them. SA has trued to acquire it for years until CSIR came with their own indigenous TDL. We can now even incept Link-16 without them intercepting ours.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-ZA
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain:
agaugust:
There are no records of Nigerian Skyguard but I showed you it exists. You Southies always said Nigerian army anti-aircraft guns have no radar guidance systems. Now we proved you wrong.

#WRECKED
1. lol I see you dont know much about Skygaurd

2. Your purchase of GDF-02 guns is well documented
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