₦airaland Forum

omonnakoda:
This is nonsense..Remember Sun Tzu in the art of war.
When you are strong act as if you are weak.
Do not be deceived by the show of weakness or be tempted into foolish triumphalism
Be wise like serpents

The real question is this: Are they paying to graze on the land? Do they pay tax.

This is just a strategic move as they realise they are not YET strong enough to be more assertive. The SW position should be uncompromising.This activity is not required and should be aggressively phased out.

It must be viewed in the context of the OTHER COMPETING interests in those lands.
With technology and investment

There is more than enough land in the north to raise cattle as long as we realize cattle owners must GROW or BUY what their animals eat. Nigeria now has a population of more than 150 million and we must use our land wisely and OPTIMALLY.

There is something we must not lose sight of:

These people are walking on foot several times a year across much of the South of Nigeria that means they even know the layout of the land more than the hosts EVIDENCE? The way they handled the kidnap of Falae. He said they were always on the move for days ( In your own territory?) What does that tell you>
Talk is cheap but people must wake up. The reason they are so free i because most people in the south have no use for the Land and are looking for Town jobs. Otherwise how were they able to move for days in the forest and not encounter anyone?

They now own the forest.Their only disadvantage is population. They are not Hausa who do not keep cattle and many Nigerian Fulani do not either. Those who own cattle bring in these Fulani from Niger,Mali Guinea etc .They have nothing to fear when they wreak havoc on villages because quite often their families are not even Nigerian.

What is the solution. ? There is no middle ground. Stop talking and making public pronouncements.
The South have one significant advantage. The State government has all the power too make laws on the subject This must be done smartly using tax,Licensing fees,public health measures etc.
e.g A government may require animals to graze only at specified locations and charge for this.Also require that animals only be moved from these locations by vehicles.
Government may require animals to be screened for a range of diseases at COST to owners.
Require insurance in case animals are infected and need to be culled.
If you cannot find an insurer willing to insure you you don't operate. There are many other measure that can raise the cost of doing business by as much as 50-100k per animal per year

Then there are security measures such as the registration. If you have a criminal record you do not operate. You mus have TB.
You must not carry firearms etc.
Penalties may include powers to confiscate entire herds.
Just like you have LASTMA you have a similar task force
State should also have a capacity evaluation to say HOW MANY ANIMALS they are willing to accommodate and therefore how many licences they will issue
This is not a matter for chest beating.
Put together a panel of experts draft the law do public hearing and put it to vote. Some states may even decide no nomadic activity AT ALL
It is a common mistake to say the constitution allows movement oof goods and services. Not true.

You cannot move a herd of pigs freely in Sokoto state. Anyway animals are not just goods they can carry disease and so subject to regulation.
Yes you can bring cows to come and sell but move move them to destroy crops on land that you do not own.Otherwise a snake keeper can start moving snakes all over the place.
What is needed is thoughtfulness and strategy with a clear goal. NO NOMADIC ACTIVITY
NO FREE LAND TO ANYONE

The ultimate question each state must ask itself is cui bono? Who benefits from this and who pays

insightful comment.

VirginFinder:
I'm sure you are stunned by how Fulanis have been shivering since Afenifere met.
That shows you Yorubas are way above ibos in this nation.
It's not by power or might.

They are not shivering.. They are making plans to legalise their stay.. And this must be rejected by the yorubas...

Yellowbar ppl are delusional. They will believe anything no matter how crass esp when they can use it against the SE Ppl. Very soon the South West will be an estate of Usman Dan Fodio.

Good move from the fulani's

victorazy:
They should not trust them yet after one decade. This could be another strategy to infiltrate the communities and areas "Fear North".

Good point!! I agree with you.
Fulani will never outsmart Yoruba in strategy. Relationship sucked to this level because, as the Yoruba elders themselves confirmed, we had become over tolerant, over accomodating and compromised our own security and interests but in view of the direction the country is headed Yoruba will work strategically to achieve regionalism as a first option, failing which we will separate ourselves.

The Fulani proposal is ok on face value but our elders are not going to sit on it. It does not offer solution to the aggrieved issues. Look, our men in police force wear tags that identify them by name and number....has that stopped them from killing innocent people or robbing people of their money at check points? NO! So how is Fulani sarki going to stop his herdsmen who carry weapons not to graze on farms, rape or kill people? Simply carrying or wearing an identification number is not a satisfactory response to their menace. Yoruba must control, totally, its land and forests and rivers.

that is Yoruba civility in action. Igbo please pay close attention. this is how it is done.

omonnakoda:
This is nonsense..Remember Sun Tzu in the art of war.
When you are strong act as if you are weak.
Do not be deceived by the show of weakness or be tempted into foolish triumphalism
Be wise like serpents

The real question is this: Are they paying to graze on the land? Do they pay tax.

This is just a strategic move as they realise they are not YET strong enough to be more assertive. The SW position should be uncompromising.This activity is not required and should be aggressively phased out.

It must be viewed in the context of the OTHER COMPETING interests in those lands.
With technology and investment

There is more than enough land in the north to raise cattle as long as we realize cattle owners must GROW or BUY what their animals eat. Nigeria now has a population of more than 150 million and we must use our land wisely and OPTIMALLY.

There is something we must not lose sight of:

These people are walking on foot several times a year across much of the South of Nigeria that means they even know the layout of the land more than the hosts EVIDENCE? The way they handled the kidnap of Falae. He said they were always on the move for days ( In your own territory?) What does that tell you>
Talk is cheap but people must wake up. The reason they are so free i because most people in the south have no use for the Land and are looking for Town jobs. Otherwise how were they able to move for days in the forest and not encounter anyone?

They now own the forest.Their only disadvantage is population. They are not Hausa who do not keep cattle and many Nigerian Fulani do not either. Those who own cattle bring in these Fulani from Niger,Mali Guinea etc .They have nothing to fear when they wreak havoc on villages because quite often their families are not even Nigerian.

What is the solution. ? There is no middle ground. Stop talking and making public pronouncements.
The South have one significant advantage. The State government has all the power too make laws on the subject This must be done smartly using tax,Licensing fees,public health measures etc.
e.g A government may require animals to graze only at specified locations and charge for this.Also require that animals only be moved from these locations by vehicles.
Government may require animals to be screened for a range of diseases at COST to owners.
Require insurance in case animals are infected and need to be culled.
If you cannot find an insurer willing to insure you you don't operate. There are many other measure that can raise the cost of doing business by as much as 50-100k per animal per year

Then there are security measures such as the registration. If you have a criminal record you do not operate. You mus have TB.
You must not carry firearms etc.
Penalties may include powers to confiscate entire herds.
Just like you have LASTMA you have a similar task force
State should also have a capacity evaluation to say HOW MANY ANIMALS they are willing to accommodate and therefore how many licences they will issue
This is not a matter for chest beating.
Put together a panel of experts draft the law do public hearing and put it to vote. Some states may even decide no nomadic activity AT ALL
It is a common mistake to say the constitution allows movement oof goods and services. Not true.

You cannot move a herd of pigs freely in Sokoto state. Anyway animals are not just goods they can carry disease and so subject to regulation.
Yes you can bring cows to come and sell but move move them to destroy crops on land that you do not own.Otherwise a snake keeper can start moving snakes all over the place.
What is needed is thoughtfulness and strategy with a clear goal. NO NOMADIC ACTIVITY
NO FREE LAND TO ANYONE

The ultimate question each state must ask itself is cui bono? Who benefits from this and who pays

Smart... But No nomadic activity should be allowed..

just2endowed:
why cant state governor ban animal roaming on farmland and force this the herdsman to build a farm land for there grazing of animals instead of encroaching peoples farm. this has been the problem in middle belt and other farm producing state in the north but this fulani people never deem it necessary to do a head count for there people rather lives had been lost day in day out in the middle belt, os adamawa, nasarawa, other places

They should build in the north..

omonnakoda:
This is nonsense..Remember Sun Tzu in the art of war.
When you are strong act as if you are weak.
Do not be deceived by the show of weakness or be tempted into foolish triumphalism
Be wise like serpents

The real question is this: Are they paying to graze on the land? Do they pay tax.

This is just a strategic move as they realise they are not YET strong enough to be more assertive. The SW position should be uncompromising.This activity is not required and should be aggressively phased out.

It must be viewed in the context of the OTHER COMPETING interests in those lands.
With technology and investment

There is more than enough land in the north to raise cattle as long as we realize cattle owners must GROW or BUY what their animals eat. Nigeria now has a population of more than 150 million and we must use our land wisely and OPTIMALLY.

There is something we must not lose sight of:

These people are walking on foot several times a year across much of the South of Nigeria that means they even know the layout of the land more than the hosts EVIDENCE? The way they handled the kidnap of Falae. He said they were always on the move for days ( In your own territory?) What does that tell you>
Talk is cheap but people must wake up. The reason they are so free i because most people in the south have no use for the Land and are looking for Town jobs. Otherwise how were they able to move for days in the forest and not encounter anyone?

They now own the forest.Their only disadvantage is population. They are not Hausa who do not keep cattle and many Nigerian Fulani do not either. Those who own cattle bring in these Fulani from Niger,Mali Guinea etc .They have nothing to fear when they wreak havoc on villages because quite often their families are not even Nigerian.

What is the solution. ? There is no middle ground. Stop talking and making public pronouncements.
The South have one significant advantage. The State government has all the power too make laws on the subject This must be done smartly using tax,Licensing fees,public health measures etc.
e.g A government may require animals to graze only at specified locations and charge for this.Also require that animals only be moved from these locations by vehicles.
Government may require animals to be screened for a range of diseases at COST to owners.
Require insurance in case animals are infected and need to be culled.
If you cannot find an insurer willing to insure you you don't operate. There are many other measure that can raise the cost of doing business by as much as 50-100k per animal per year

Then there are security measures such as the registration. If you have a criminal record you do not operate. You mus have TB.
You must not carry firearms etc.
Penalties may include powers to confiscate entire herds.
Just like you have LASTMA you have a similar task force
State should also have a capacity evaluation to say HOW MANY ANIMALS they are willing to accommodate and therefore how many licences they will issue
This is not a matter for chest beating.
Put together a panel of experts draft the law do public hearing and put it to vote. Some states may even decide no nomadic activity AT ALL
It is a common mistake to say the constitution allows movement oof goods and services. Not true.

You cannot move a herd of pigs freely in Sokoto state. Anyway animals are not just goods they can carry disease and so subject to regulation.
Yes you can bring cows to come and sell but move move them to destroy crops on land that you do not own.Otherwise a snake keeper can start moving snakes all over the place.
What is needed is thoughtfulness and strategy with a clear goal. NO NOMADIC ACTIVITY
NO FREE LAND TO ANYONE

The ultimate question each state must ask itself is cui bono? Who benefits from this and who pays

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My brother, may Oduduwa bless you and your household, Ase!

GodMode:
Smart... But No nomadic activity should be allowed..

Well you have to do so wisely and tactfully. Some of the politicians will have one eye on future federal ambitions and so have to tread wisely. Laws can be enacted without appearing to be reactionary or malicious thet is the Yoruba way we use the law not gra gra
You must also make sure that you make laws that are properly drafted so as to be constitutional so there is no argument just like when we deported those Igbos remember their case has now been dismissed

Pappyjim:
Yoruba's and Hausa/Fulani av long history of good coexistence... Go and check major towns in southwest and you'll find "Sabo"! Flat head abeg respect your host community, enuff of dis bragging!!!

Yorubas don't have long history with hausa/fulani.. Go and read about the jalumi war.

Yorubas fought hausa/fulani from 1805 - 1893 when most hausa/fulanis were killed which ended the war before the british came and claimed to be the ones that ended the war.

januzaj:
They call us cowards.....we threatened secession...Fulani are now running up and down...they threatened secession....they were beaten black and blue.....i no mention tribe oooo
We dont brag,we act
they dont act,they brag

Ibos sef shld b documented. I op they wl learn how to live peacefully wit their host

Omo Oduduwa
Adake ja bi Esu
Erin bi ekun
ekun bi erin
oro to de ile oo kin se oro ariwo
paa paa gaan ko ki n se oro orita
eyi ti Gambari ba ti so la ma gbo
gbogbo aso ko la n sa s'orun

DJMCOTTY:
I just finished one wrap............

nine more to go. Kudos

U

ARIZONA123:
. Oponu. Yerigba land is under economic,religious,political and territorial domination [s]and this is all you can come up with? You accomodate others! Hmmmmmmm it hurts and sucks to be a yeribastard

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Worthless village clown. Why not let us worry about our land and you worry about your worthless, stagnating and unproductive villages that you and your born and unborn generations can not stay in to get your daily bread...

Your forefathers, you and your unborn generations are bread and water migrant workers paying us taxes to develop our land while your villages stagnate.

And if by chance you get your biafra village, are you going to join Lagos or any Yorubaland to iboland?

You see how dumb and clueless you village clowns are?


Oloshi olori pelebe

omonnakoda:
Well you have to do so wisely and tactfully. Some of the politicians will have one eye on future federal ambitions and so have to tread wisely. Laws can be enacted without appearing to be reactionary or malicious thet is the Yoruba way we use the law not gra gra
You must also make sure that you make laws that are properly drafted so as to be constitutional so there is no argument just like when we deported those Igbos remember their case has now been dismissed

Their goal is to kill southerners, yorubas don't need laws they need a very strong ethnic militia to defend SW.

Have you read this:

wisdomguy4u:
Yeah, patriotic pronouncement like that of our founding fathers below:

“We do not want our Southern neighbours to
interfere in our development. We have never
associated ourselves with the activities of these
people. We do not know them, we do not
recognize them, and we share no responsibility in
their actions. We shall demand our rights when the
time is ripe. If the British quit Nigeria now at this
stage, the Northern people would continue their
uninterrupted conquest to the sea”. - Sir Tafawa
Balewa (1947)

“We the people of the North will continue our stated
intention to conquer the South and to dip the Koran
in the Atlantic ocean after the British leave our
shores.” - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1957)

Nigeria is just a mere geographical contraption -
Awolowo

“The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate
of our great grandfather Uthman Dan Fodio. We
must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use the minorities in the North as willing tools and the South as a conquered territory and never allow them to rule over us and never allow them to have control over their future”. - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1960)

So abokiis dey fear us Yorubas?

Shebi dem say we be cowards?

Who be cowards now?

That's yoruba for you.

We accept you whole-hearedly but the moment you Bleep up our hospitality, we show you never to mess with us.

Proudly yoruba!

GodMode:
Their goal is to kill southerners, yorubas don't need laws they need a very strong ethnic militia to defend SW.

Have read this:

Militias are not formed on the internet, Talk is cheap. We must act within the law because that is our way. There is a tactical reality which Falae's kidnap showed. The forests are not adequately manned.If people can come from outside and move around for days then they must have done so several time before and know the lie of the land.What seems true also is this is more than can be said of our own people. They know our forests more than us . These are people who have probable walked from Calabar to Lagos several times.

So if you are going to start a so called militia who will fund it. They have an advantage. Their livelihood lies in the bush and so they are MOTIVATED ,very motivated. It is difficult to see how southerners can be motivated to stay in the bush for nothing or for pride. Ultimately money must come out. So the next question is will those Yorubas with money cough up? What is needed is thinkers and strategists not hotheads

Yoloba are the weirdest Abd dumbest clowns of Africa. This monkies threatened fulanis to leave their land, the fulani just announced they are going to SELF REGISTER in a land they told them to leave and this yoloba fools twist story trying to save face and telling us they "the fulanis are running around ever since afenifere threatened", "we are not cowards, blah blah".... I'm f2king weak. What a bunch of jokes.

omonnakoda:
Militias are not formed on the internet, Talk is cheap. We must act within the law because that is our way. There is a tactical reality which Falae's kidnap showed. The forests are not adequately manned.If people can come from outside and move around for days then they must have done so several time before and know the lie of the land.What seems true also is this is more than can be said of our own people. They know our forests more than us . These are people who have probable walked from Calabar to Lagos several times.

So if you are going to start a so called militia who will fund it. They have an advantage. Their livelihood lies in the bush and so they are MOTIVATED ,very motivated. It is difficult to see how southerners can be motivated to stay in the bush for nothing or for pride. Ultimately money must come out. So the next question is will those Yorubas with money cough up? What is needed is thinkers and strategists not hotheads

You're choosing to defend on ONE end... when they attack villages they just attack..
For example, falae's kidnap where staffs ran for their lives and no armed security to defend the staffs and the herdmens still had confidence to go back to falae's place...

Using law is one end, what happens when the law can't defend you.. I hope you know laws can be broken and are usually broken..

GodMode:
You're choosing to defend on ONE end... when they attack villages they just attack..
For example, falae's kidnap where staffs ran for their lives and no armed security to defend the staffs and the herdmens still had confidence to go back to falae's place...

Using law is one end, what happens when the law can't defend you.. I hope you know laws can be broken and are usually broken..

That side of things does not need talk, Talk is cheap. Did they come to Nairaland to talk before kidnapping him?
We will talk about what needs talking about

ARIZONA123:
. So you have agreed to the fact that fulanis are your masters. Very soon an EZE ndi igbo will dethrone Oba lilwayne in lagos(A no man's land)

Chyke Okolo, Go wear your bra, a full grown man with boobs Your mom was raped by a gorilla before giving birth to you, no wonder you have a big boobs. Buhahahaha. Animal

FKO81:
Coward, same Fulani that kidnapped elder statesman in Yoruba land, destroyed his farm beat and chase away more than two hundred yoruba farms, also collected ransom from his family, they occupied Kwara and killing your people at random, God will bless hardworking Igbos that are developing your state, paying taxes and royalties to your kins that god will punish Because of envy and jealous, you guys are really COWARDs without mixing words

Compared to the killing happening in Aguleri and the death of ibo chief in Enugu, this is a child's play!
Useless chest beating apes!

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ARIZONA123:
. Fulanis are regarded as ragtags here. They dare not try their CHI. Meanwhile there is an EMIRATE on yerigba territory and there is an EZE on yerigba territory. Cowards!!!!!

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Chyke Okolo, Your eze was killed in Enugu, nothing happened. Fulani raped your women in Imo, nothing happened. Igalas are killing you cursed animal in Anambra, nothing happened. Your Igwe was flogged recently in Akure, still nothing happened. You are a 5th class citizen, no one take yeebhoes serious. You are forever a slave to all tribes in Nigeria.

omonnakoda:
Omo Oduduwa
Adake ja bi Esu
Erin bi ekun
ekun bi erin
oro to de ile oo kin se oro ariwo
paa paa gaan ko ki n se oro orita
eyi ti Gambari ba ti so la ma gbo
gbogbo aso ko la n sa s'orun

Mayor ti fi aponle kun oro soki yi!

omonnakoda:
That side of things does not need talk, Talk is cheap. Did they come to Nairaland to talk before kidnapping him?
We will talk about what needs talking about

Exactly, yorubas need an enlightened and highly skilled security network like C:IA, F:B:I e.t.c. This is what I mean by "ethnic militia"..

People whose only goal is to defend and find security risks and threats in SW.

Yorubas like t:inubu can't be trusted..

Really? A step that should have been taken way back! Anyway ranch farms are the best for the south o! unless we have brainless leaders.

januzaj:
http://dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/falae-fulani-herdsmen-embark-on-self-registration-in-south-west/115492.html

Loooool, fulani herdsmen Wil still resume their killings after the registrations.

GodMode:
They are not shivering.. They are making plans to legalise their stay.. And this must be rejected by the yorubas...

that's what it looks like.

i just dont know why Yorubaland is so attractive to all and sundry.

You say they are accommodating, folks will rush there.

You say they are not accommodating, folks will still rush there.

wetin dey southwest wey dey draw the whole world nah? Which cant be found anywhere else.

just wondering!

FKO81:
please kindly read this news, this is one out of many incidents, after reading show me any link were Igbos go on rampage killing innocent people

No fewer than two people reportedly died while property worth millions of naira were destroyed following a clash between Fulani traders and Yoruba natives of Oro-Ago in Ifelodun Local Government Area of Kwara State.

Our correspondent gathered on Wednesday that some irate youths allegedly razed at least five vehicles and 10 motorcycles said to be owned by some Fulani people in the ensuing pandemonium.

A source, who pleaded anonymity for fear of attack, told journalists in Ilorin that the mayhem was allegedly caused by Fulani-Bororo settlers who, allegedly flouted a rule in the area that the settlers should never bring arms, ammunition and fighting sticks from their settlements to market on Oro Ago market days.

He stated that some armed Fulani traders came to the market on Monday.

He added that the vigilance team and hunters in the area accosted them, seized the weapons from them and later kept them at a place in Oro Ago town.

The source said the leader of the Fulani people in the area, popularly called Serikin Fulani, surprisingly stormed the place where the ammunition were kept with his people, carted away the weapons seized by the vigilance team and handed them back to the Fulani traders.
The source said the hunters and vigilance team attempted to retrieve the re-captured weapons from the Fulani people.

According to him, violent clash erupted between the two camps, leading to a breakdown of laws and order as weapons were allegedly used freely by the warring parties.
Police Public Relations Officer, Kwara State Police Command, Mr. Ajayi Okasanmi, said it was untrue that seven people were killed during the clash.
claimed that two people were killed. added that security operatives had restored normalcy to the area as, according to him, people have resumed normal socio-economic life and are going about their normal business unmolested.
http://www.punchng.com/news/two-die-as-fulani-yoruba-clash-in-kwara/

Lol!
Ibos and fraud are like siamese twins!
Where did you get the news from?
The news no longer exist on the site, which either means it's a stale news or fake!
Yeye factory bush babies!

seunny4lif:
Yoruba get level for this country ooh cos see how all those fulanis dey fear now

D killings will resume after registration...make we bet