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Shymm3x:
What has the convention, a meeting of Yorubas living in America, got to do with one? Michigan has state laws and the Governor of Michigan is the authority there - did they challenge the authority of the state of Michigan? If no, I don't see any correlation whatsoever here.

When did Igbos start having kings, anyway? There should be only three kings in Igboland: Onitsha, Nri, and the last one around the Calabar/Akwa Ibom axis that sold tens of millions of slaves (I can't remember the name now). Any other Igbo king is a fraudulent king. And if you want to have fraudulent kings -why not keep those kings in Igboland and stop causing nuisance everywhere?

You lot just don't know how to act.

angels09:
Soon to be razed in the next pogrom

Ihuomadinihu:
The Convention by Yoruba leaders in America corresponds with having an Igbo leader in Akure. Everyone in Nigeria has the right to free association. This is an authority that has been put in place by Igbo citizens in Akure to oversee the interest of the Igbos and he is not dragging any power or authority with your Oba. He is just there for the interest of Igbo people. Going by your responds, there shouldn't be an afenikere group in America afterall America is not Yorubaland and all yoruba groups belong to the South West.

Finally,you do not tell a people how to go about choosing a leader, the Eze ndi igbo by definition is the Head of all Igbo people in a non Igbo region that stands as a representative of Igbo affairs in the government of that region. Don't know why the rest of you are getting worked up over the postion of Eze ndi igbo in Nigeria.
As for the challenges, am not insupport of the method implored in picking a market head without reviewing existing laws.
If Eze ndi igbo has no business in Akure, the Afenifere group has no business in America. No double standards!

Activa:
The Igbo in Akure, the Ondo State capital, are trying to reconcile with the Deji of Akure, Oba Ogunlade Aladetoyinbo, after a few days of bickering.

The monarch had accused the Eze Ndigbo, Sir Gregory Iloehike, of insubordination and lack of respect for his authority. But Iloehike denied the allegation, saying he couldn’t be arrogant to the tribe that has accommodated his tribe for over many decades ago.

Rising from a special meeting of Ohaneze Ndigbo at the palace of the Eze Ndigbo in Akure, the President-General of Ohaneze Ndigbo in the state, Chief Okechukwu Okorie, said the Igbo respect the Deji and would not do anything against his wish.

He said the Igbo in the state are peace loving people, adding that the Ohaneze Ndigbo has started reconciliatory moves with the Deji and palace chiefs to ensure peaceful and harmonious co-existence between the Yoruba and Igbo in the town.

The group described the relationship between the Deji and Igbo as that of a father and his children, noting that the monarch remains the father to all. He said: “The Igbo are law abiding and we remain good subjects of the Deji of Akure. We can never warn the Deji on any issue, rather he is in position to warn us.


“The Deji is our father and we are his children. Whatever he wants is our wish and we shall continue to obey his directives.” Okorie, who hinted that the Igbo leaders have decided to reconcile with the Deji, informed that efforts are on top gear to reach out to the traditional ruler.

He urged the monarch to forgive those who might have offended him, adding that the Igbo would continue to maintain the peace for which Akure is known for.

http://thenationonlineng.net/igbo-moves-to-reconcile-with-deji/

Haywhymido:
na thunder go fire deji 4 him own land. U r as foolish as the word fool. Lagoonian oshi

omenka:
Oga, this is absolutely unnecessary. Those who were directly affected are trying to make peace- don't you think that is worthy of commendation instead of mocking them

Shymm3x:
No. It corresponds with the gathering of the American community in Nigeria. Just as there's a British Village in Abuja and another British foreign office in Lagos - where Brits meet up. And I'm sure there are other expats from other countries living in Nigeria who do the same. You can't put an authority in-charge on your people in a place where they're not indigenous to - and a land owned by other people, especially a place where there are customary laws. You have to obey the authority in place and learn to abide by the rules of the land. That's how you earn mutual respect. Once you become belligerent and start constituting nuisance - you ought to be whipped the way ya fraudulent Eze got his just due.

A Kingship represents the authority, custodian of the culture/tradition/heritage, and overseer of the land. You have no right whatsoever to appoint another king on a land that doesn't belong to you - unless it's a conquered territory. And the last I checked, the place isn't a conquered territory - so why constitute nuisance there with ya needless lust for fictitious titles, unnecessary exhibitionism, and vacuous conceitedness? Are Igbos even supposed to have Kings in the first place? Isn't Kingship foreign to Igboland? On one hand you run around claiming that pre-colonial Igboland was a democratic one - yet you want all kinds of useless colonial titles on other people's lands. Can you see how utterly confused and uncultured you lot are? Why not stick to who you naturally are?

OnReflection:
I agree with you here. The unrestrained triumphalism of commentators who ought to know better, is just as bad as the initial acts of provocation.

AustineE1:
Just to massage the Deji of Akure's ego! However as a good business people,tell him what he wants to hear and go about your business of making money peacefully,then send back your returns home...nice step,great people,God bless Ndigbo.

Ihuomadinihu:
I've already explained the meaning of Eze Ndi Igbo in this context. It's not equal to the position of an Eze of Igboland, Obi or Oba. You people have problems with nomenclatures and appellations. Eze Ndi Igbo is the head of all igbos in that community put in place by the aggrement of the people with certain traditional blessings charged with the protection of Igbo interests. The way you have Hausa and Fulani leaders in Akure,same way you have Igbo leaders there. That is not gonna stop igbos from electing a leader because you folks are fraught with insecurity and extreme subservience of a human authority. Being Eze ndi Igbo has no bearing on the traditional customs of your community,he is there as the mouth piece of his people. Someone that can meet the governor and his governor on behalf of his people....
If you still do not understand this freedom of association and type of leadership, it is your business and it's quite unfortunate.
If you want to argue,then argue responsibly, otherwise you come out clear cos i detect that strong tribalistic tone associated with folks like you. Calling a group of people uncultured doesn't make you more cultured in the first instance.
P.s your first sentence shows you don't know what you are talking about.

margclever:
my dear our igbo brothers can be silly at times, d elders have done their job, disregard juveniles when they talk, peace is what i wish my brothers in akure

Shymm3x:
No. It corresponds with the gathering of the American community in Nigeria. Just as there's a British Village in Abuja and another British foreign office in Lagos - where Brits meet up. And I'm sure there are other expats from other countries living in Nigeria who do the same. You can't put an authority in-charge on your people in a place where they're not indigenous to - and a land owned by other people, especially a place where there are customary laws. You have to obey the authority in place and learn to abide by the rules of the land. That's how you earn mutual respect. Once you become belligerent and start constituting nuisance - you ought to be whipped the way ya fraudulent Eze got his just due.

A Kingship represents the authority, custodian of the culture/tradition/heritage, and overseer of the land. You have no right whatsoever to appoint another king on a land that doesn't belong to you - unless it's a conquered territory. And the last I checked, the place isn't a conquered territory - so why constitute nuisance there with ya needless lust for fictitious titles, unnecessary exhibitionism, and vacuous conceitedness? Are Igbos even supposed to have Kings in the first place? Isn't Kingship foreign to Igboland? On one hand you run around claiming that pre-colonial Igboland was a democratic one - yet you want all kinds of useless colonial titles on other people's lands. Can you see how utterly confused and uncultured you lot are? Why not stick to who you naturally are?

Ihuomadinihu:
The Lands were bought and paid for. Igbos in Akure don't owe Akure a dime and don't need to bow under any authority apart from maintaining communal peace which they have always done.
As for the crown,a simple instruction at the gate would have gone a long way. Why was he allowed to pass certain pathways without teaching him about the codes and conducts of a Yoruba palace on the spot? Before one goes to meet an authority,he is lectured on how to comport himself. Why was he not taught?
I'm not gonna pretend like this fracas was not premeditated and put into action at the slightest mistake. The way you issue out irrelevant threats simply reveal the mind of the average Yoruba man.

The dethronement of the Ohaneze Ndigbo by Deji of Akure. the ibo people turn out en mass to protest the decision of the Oba of Akure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVYM1Rz3tc

Shymm3x:
But why's ya Eze wearing a crown, with all kinds of regalia - while trying to force his own laws on a land he's foreign to? Who bestowed the rights to do that on him?

See, the problem with Igbo folks like you is that: you lack the cerebral prowess to process the simplest things...and everything you do is purely based on emotions, hence you drag all types of references out of context to suit ya blame game fantasies. Again: what's the correlation between Yorubas meeting in America, and a fraudulent King trying to force his authority on a land he's foreign to? I'm sure all the Yorubas in Michigan pay their taxes and obey the state laws...and if they don't, I trust the yanks to throw their arses in prison cos it takes the slightest thing to throw the black man in prison to pick cotton in America. It's no different from how Americans in Nigeria meet up - or Brits in Nigeria, who even have a British village. However, have you ever seen Americans or Brits try to force their laws on Nigeria, even in the oil and gas sector, which they dominate? There's no harm in expats in a foreign country meeting up.

If a lot of Igbos aren't uncultured - why the need for Kings everywhere, when Kingship is foreign to Igbo culture?

deadie:
You come across as an unrepentant mumu.

superstar1:
Shymexx

You really have the time to be elucidating what Kingship entails to the people that never had such in their political structure before the arrival of the British.

OnReflection:
You would either learn the easy way or the hard way.
Ask the Eze why he insisted on wearing his "crown" for a second time, after being admonished by palace Chiefs who explained that such actions amounted to a taboo in Akure.

Activa:
Rising from a special meeting of Ohaneze Ndigbo at the palace of the Eze Ndigbo in Akure, the President-General of Ohaneze Ndigbo in the state, Chief Okechukwu Okorie, said the Igbo respect the Deji and would not do anything against his wish.

Shymm3x:
But why's ya Eze wearing a crown, with all kinds of regalia - while trying to force his own laws on a land he's foreign to? Who bestowed the rights to do that on him?

See, the problem with Igbo folks like you is that: you lack the cerebral prowess to process the simplest things...and everything you do is purely based on emotions, hence you drag all types of references out of context to suit ya blame game fantasies. Again: what's the correlation between Yorubas meeting in America, and a fraudulent King trying to force his authority on a land he's foreign to? I'm sure all the Yorubas in Michigan pay their taxes and obey the state laws...and if they don't, I trust the yanks to throw their arses in prison cos it takes the slightest thing to throw the black man in prison to pick cotton in America. It's no different from how Americans in Nigeria meet up - or Brits in Nigeria, who even have a British village. However, have you ever seen Americans or Brits try to force their laws on Nigeria, even in the oil and gas sector, which they dominate? There's no harm in expats in a foreign country meeting up.

If a lot of Igbos aren't uncultured - why the need for Kings everywhere, when Kingship is foreign to Igbo culture?

Ihuomadinihu:
The Convention by Yoruba leaders in America corresponds with having an Igbo leader in Akure. Everyone in Nigeria has the right to free association. This is an authority that has been put in place by Igbo citizens in Akure to oversee the interest of the Igbos and he is not dragging any power or authority with your Oba. He is just there for the interest of Igbo people. Going by your responds, there shouldn't be an afenikere group in America afterall America is not Yorubaland and all yoruba groups belong to the South West.

Finally,you do not tell a people how to go about choosing a leader, the Eze ndi igbo by definition is the Head of all Igbo people in a non Igbo region that stands as a representative of Igbo affairs in the government of that region. Don't know why the rest of you are getting worked up over the postion of Eze ndi igbo in Nigeria.
As for the challenges, am not insupport of the method implored in picking a market head without reviewing existing laws.
If Eze ndi igbo has no business in Akure, the Afenifere group has no business in America. No double standards!

Ihuomadinihu:
If the Afeniferes can meet and adopt a yoruba leader who stands for yoruba people in a foreign land, then the Igbos have every right under the Federal Republic of Nigeria to elect a leader and organize a meeting of all igbo people in Akure.
After all my explanations,you still do not want to think and reason because you are hell bent on spewing tribalistic trash which is obviously deep in your system. .
If you can succeed in getting rid of your bottled up sentiments and hostility against igbos then you would understand the definition and place of the term, ' Eze ndi Igbo. Or you want to force us to accept that Igbos shouldn't have leaders outside of Igboland because of some pre colonial references. I would repeat once more, Eze ndi igbo Akure is not a Monarch,he is a figure standing unbehalf of the igbo people in Akure.
A person's words and actions make him uncultured,just like you are uncultured. The abscence of Kings or Monarch does not make one uncultured. If having kings equate the state of being cultured,then you belong to the days of the Homo erectus.

Activa:
The Igbo in Akure, the Ondo State capital, are trying to reconcile with the Deji of Akure, Oba Ogunlade Aladetoyinbo, after a few days of bickering.

The monarch had accused the Eze Ndigbo, Sir Gregory Iloehike, of insubordination and lack of respect for his authority. But Iloehike denied the allegation, saying he couldn’t be arrogant to the tribe that has accommodated his tribe for over many decades ago.

Rising from a special meeting of Ohaneze Ndigbo at the palace of the Eze Ndigbo in Akure, the President-General of Ohaneze Ndigbo in the state, Chief Okechukwu Okorie, said the Igbo respect the Deji and would not do anything against his wish.

He said the Igbo in the state are peace loving people, adding that the Ohaneze Ndigbo has started reconciliatory moves with the Deji and palace chiefs to ensure peaceful and harmonious co-existence between the Yoruba and Igbo in the town.

The group described the relationship between the Deji and Igbo as that of a father and his children, noting that the monarch remains the father to all. He said: “The Igbo are law abiding and we remain good subjects of the Deji of Akure. We can never warn the Deji on any issue, rather he is in position to warn us.


“The Deji is our father and we are his children. Whatever he wants is our wish and we shall continue to obey his directives.” Okorie, who hinted that the Igbo leaders have decided to reconcile with the Deji, informed that efforts are on top gear to reach out to the traditional ruler.

He urged the monarch to forgive those who might have offended him, adding that the Igbo would continue to maintain the peace for which Akure is known for.

http://thenationonlineng.net/igbo-moves-to-reconcile-with-deji/

teeowl:
Bottom line is: if any Eze ndigbo decides to pick a market head/leader in yoruba land on his own (this is the domain of the Oba), the Eze ndigbo would be flogged and humiliated by yoruba thugs and nothing would happen.

Ihuomadinihu:
I'm yet to hear that Yorubas are demanded to pay Tax and levies in all Igbo states. So why exactly should igbos pay tax in Ondo? Do you think you granted igbos a favour by hosting them in your states? All Igbos have acquired in Akure is a result of sheer hardwork and strong will. The Eze ndi igbo was matured enough to seek for a truce and prevent further escalation of bad blood between yoruba and Igbo citizens,he must be commended for that.
As for the recollection of inter ethnic violence and gross descriptions of what would befall Igbos in Akure,i would have to remind you all that no group have the exclusive right to violence and open slaughtering of non natives.
Those recollections are mere intimadations,i can assure you that if Akure starts bolling and melts out violence on innocent Igbos, the streets of Onitsha will equally boil.
It's highly unfortunate....instead of calling for order and peace,non Igbos will rather recount a silly event and tell igbos that what will happen to them will be better imagine. Spilling of such venemous hostility is enough to make Igbos push for a seperate nation. No point living with folks that are ready to slaughter you based on every little mistake.
There is no week or month that one does not see a mindless attack on Igbos,be it from a bigot traditional ruler or a citizen even when there are no reasons for such attacks.
In Nigeria, foundation of frienship between ethnic groups are built around their collective hatred and hostility for Igbos,even where the basis for that are beyond any human reasoning.

Ihuomadinihu:
I've already explained the meaning of Eze Ndi Igbo in this context. It's not equal to the position of an Eze of Igboland, Obi or Oba. You people have problems with nomenclatures and appellations. Eze Ndi Igbo is the head of all igbos in that community put in place by the aggrement of the people with certain traditional blessings charged with the protection of Igbo interests. The way you have Hausa and Fulani leaders in Akure,same way you have Igbo leaders there. That is not gonna stop igbos from electing a leader because you folks are fraught with insecurity and extreme subservience of a human authority. Being Eze ndi Igbo has no bearing on the traditional customs of your community,he is there as the mouth piece of his people. Someone that can meet the governor and his governor on behalf of his people....
If you still do not understand this freedom of association and type of leadership, it is your business and it's quite unfortunate.
If you want to argue,then argue responsibly, otherwise you come out clear cos i detect that strong tribalistic tone associated with folks like you. Calling a group of people uncultured doesn't make you more cultured in the first instance.
P.s your first sentence shows you don't know what you are talking about.

Ihuomadinihu:
I can't remember saying that he did the right thing by bending the customs guilding the choice of a market head. But whatever happened was well planned.
The Yorubas have the responsibility to teach all non Yoruba authorities the customs and traditions of your land. You don't cry and raise hell when others trample on your customs because you don't make out time for reorientation, awareness and education of other citizens.

ocelot2006:
& who wouldve deported them? You? Just be grateful that cooler heads prevailed.

Nicepoker:
deport? Is Akure a country?

Nicepoker:
deport? Is Akure a country?

nochildsplay:
Fellow nairalanders, please, check yourself, ever since most of us have been a member on this social network, tribalism and racism has over grown in our heart, somepeople don't even know "this noise" exist, until they sign up for an account on Nairaland, somepeople don't even know that some "noise makers" are waging Death and Mayhem on Nigerian citizens until they join nairaland , somepeople have always been the regular kind of people, happy and always friendly but since this "Noise everywhere" their orientation has changed about "them".. Now we witch hunt ourselves at the gaze of any crime news for name check. Somepeople don't even achieve anything with their data anymore than to be wasted on "this noise" , which is not meant to be because Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know, that how these noise makers are and I think Silence doesn’t always mean “Yes”. Sometimes it means,“I’m tired of explaining to people who don’t even care to understand.”