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Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 5:12pm On Aug 27, 2015
anulaxad:



You see, you are just embarrassing yourself, what is the meaning of Ignorance? When you lack knowledge. What is the meaning of illiterate? when you cannot read and write. I have clearly shown that I am knowledgeable and that I can articulate myself with proper reasoning and evidence.

Stating the obvious such as that population density is less in Kano as the have bigger land mass is unbelievable, speaking like a kid will in no way make you you sound any smarter.

Those states: Anambra and Imo are under massive pressure due to there overpopulation, is Kano or Oyo?

Kano and Oyo can overpopulate themselves to the extent that they can become as densely populated and as crowded as Anambra and Imo but as of right now they are not. So stop arguing foolishly. You are saying the Hausas and Yorubas should stop overpopulating yet there states are as of right now ( listen this is coming from a Geography expert) are not under pressure in terms of resources or infrastructure due to overpopulation but those other states (Anambra and Imo) are.

I am informing you of information that may be hard for you to comprehend but I have explained in the most easiest of terms possible.

You are talking incoherent crap here. Please tell me, what is the population of SE versus that of SW, NW, NC and NE? Let's even exclude tribal populations since we do not have one now. Why does the SE have less total population than the other regions? Simple answer: (1) reduction in number of kids and to a lesser extent (2) emigration (travel) of the population. I have mentioned both in my opening post. Now go to bed.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 5:14pm On Aug 27, 2015
asha80:
the national population man talks about overpopulating the country vis a vis resources not individual
states

And we know those who take a larger share of the resources. They are not Igbos. Thank you for helping that olodo
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by j1mmy: 5:14pm On Aug 27, 2015
kestolove95:
Its non of ma bizness

It will be if you live in Nigeria and one day you come out of your house and there are people right outside it because there is no other space to stand.

It will be if you start getting sick due to worsened sanitation and environmental issues

It will be if there are too many people for available food and people start looking at you like food.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by asha80(m): 5:26pm On Aug 27, 2015
j1mmy:


It will be if you live in Nigeria and one day you come out of your house and there are people right outside it because there is no other space to stand.

It will be if you start getting sick due to worsened sanitation and environmental issues

It will be if there are too many people for available food and people start looking at you like food.
lol at your last sentence

astrodome:
dont mind that guy..he is just focused on tribe and lost focus on the meat of the argument
And we know those who take a larger share of the resources. They are not Igbos. Thank you for helping that olodo
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 5:34pm On Aug 27, 2015
We cannot do much about the different land masses in different Nigerian zones because they are fixed, but we can do something about the population increase because it is unfixed. The first step is to ask in which parts of Nigeria is the rate of population increase higher? That is, who is giving birth to 10 children (high rate) versus who is giving birth to 3 (low rate), irrespective of the land mass? By continuing to give birth to less number of kids, states currently with high population density (due to less land mass) will see lower population densities in the next few years.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by Meiji(m): 5:46pm On Aug 27, 2015
astrodome:
BTW, if you have a large and PRODUCTIVE population (like the US; but mostly immigrants from Latina America, Africa and elsewhere are the ones causing the US population increase) then it is understandable. But when you have a large and UNPRODUCTIVE population (like Nigeria), then it is a time bomb waiting to explode.

China used to have a less productive population, hence they initiated their population control program. Even now that they have become productive, they would not be changing that program any time soon.

Actually China has begun to relax its one-child policy, but I get your point.

The issue here is that we have relied on "population figures" as a tool for sharing of oil money for so long. One day however, we will have no choice but to rebalance this economy from one based on sharing to one based on productivity. When that happens, those of us who like to boast using their population figures will be forced to think of how to feed and educate their people from decreased revenue. We'll sit up by then.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by alcmene: 5:54pm On Aug 27, 2015
CSTR2:
A situation where the average yoruba man has atleast an extra wife outside aside his legitimate wife, the population explosion in the south is not surprising.
Infact it is a normal cultural behaviour for any average man with some small loose change in his pockets in that part of nigeria to have illegitimate wives and kids.
Indiscipline and its resultant effects.


You just bombed the philandering cowards grin

Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by mikolo80: 6:00pm On Aug 27, 2015
astrodome:


1. At present, women are not critically lacking in China, where males account for 51.27% of the 1.34 billion people, while females made up 48.73%. If anything, there is no law that prevents Chinese men from marrying foreigners to make up the small shortfall. So you are raising a false alarm here.

2. The American population is not about to crash. They have immigrants pumping in steadily; they just need to sift through and admit only the best and brightest.

3. I agree that Japan seems to have overdone their own population control.
2% is a lot in reality
and where will they find the foreigners,Japanese that they hate or Jordan's that hate them. and how many poor ppl can afford it to travel to find foreigner

I meant American economy due to aging population

I don't think Japan controlled population
affluence tends to encourage smaller family size
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by mikolo80: 6:06pm On Aug 27, 2015
omowolewa:
HE is providing only they complain the its not enough
so why taking panadol for another man's headache
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by tevinsolt: 6:17pm On Aug 27, 2015
it's high time we start exporting some of the populace to colonize other parts of the world cheesy
Besides Biafrans are leaving soon. it is a welcome development
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 6:35pm On Aug 27, 2015
tevinsolt:
it's high time we start exporting some of the populace to colonize other parts of the world cheesy
Besides Biafrans are leaving soon. it is a welcome development

But Biafra leaving will not make a serious dent on the population of the North, where the main overpopulation problem is stemming from.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 6:36pm On Aug 27, 2015
Meiji:


Actually China has begun to relax its one-child policy, but I get your point.

The issue here is that we have relied on "population figures" as a tool for sharing of oil money for so long. One day however, we will have no choice but to rebalance this economy from one based on sharing to one based on productivity. When that happens, those of us who like to boast using their population figures will be forced to think of how to feed and educate their people from decreased revenue. We'll sit up by then.

Yes, using population to give federal money is one of the main causes.

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Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by tevinsolt: 6:45pm On Aug 27, 2015
astrodome:


But Biafra leaving will not make a serious dent on the population of the North, where the main overpopulation problem is stemming from.
but subtraction of Biafran population, will greatly reduce the overall population, who's to say Nigeria will continue to exist in the nearest future.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 6:51pm On Aug 27, 2015
tevinsolt:

but subtraction of Biafran population, will greatly reduce the overall population, who's to say Nigeria will continue to exist in the nearest future.

Sure, but if a large part (after Biafra has left) of Nigeria's population remains unproductive with a high birth rate how does that help? Remember also that Biafra leaving will affect the economy as well (import duties; foreign remittances; revenue from nollywood; some oil revenue from Imo, Abia and potentially, Anambra; personal income taxes; corporate taxes from companies in the SE, etc)
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by tevinsolt: 6:57pm On Aug 27, 2015
astrodome:


Sure, but if a large part (after Biafra has left) of Nigeria's population remains unproductive with a high birth rate how does that help? Remember also that Biafra leaving will affect the economy as well (import duties, foreign remittances, revenue from nollywood, etc)

Everything will be fine or maybe not, the break would have at least solve Nigeria's biggest problem, the rest will be figured out a step at a time.
it just like a break up, it is first uncomfortable and new, but eventually the parties involve grow out of it and learn to leave without each other.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 7:01pm On Aug 27, 2015
tevinsolt:


Everything will be fine or maybe not, the break would have at least solve Nigeria's biggest problem, the rest will be figured out a step at a time.
it just like a break up, it is first uncomfortable and new, but eventually the parties involve grow out of it and learn to leave without each other.


Agreed
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by omowolewa: 7:07pm On Aug 27, 2015
Ma wo eleyi keh!
Did I complain on their behalf? Are you in anyway related to our mai-guard ni?

Oga Ade! Leave mi o

mikolo80:
so why taking panadol for another man's headache
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by badnature: 7:25pm On Aug 27, 2015
all this story of north been overpopulated is rubbish,before the beginning!!! Britain doctord nigeria census to favor the north for the resin best known to them and since then the north continue in that fashion,having landmass does not automatically translate to population density.imagine kano having a population higher than lagos! well in the zoo every thing is optenable
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by cjrane: 7:37pm On Aug 27, 2015
Then kill off some! tongue tongue tongue
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by astrodome: 9:02pm On Aug 27, 2015
cjrane:
Then kill off some! tongue tongue tongue

Hey! I saw the material quoted below on a friend's facebook page and nothing can be apter than it, per your suggestion above.


The world's population is balloning like crazy and there is no real "solution" in sight to check the surge. Loss of lives from many natural and man-made incidents - poverty, hunger, HIV, ebola, cancer, malaria, flu, H1N1, SARS, incessant food-borne pathogen outbreaks, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, landslides, droughts, boko haram, ISIS, alqaeda, the Syrian civil war and other religious extremisms, etc, etc - have made no dent so far upon the 7+ billion inhabitants of planet earth. The human species is indeed resilient.

So how do you kill them off? grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by anulaxad(m): 9:38pm On Aug 27, 2015
astrodome:


You are talking incoherent crap here. Please tell me, what is the population of SE versus that of SW, NW, NC and NE? Let's even exclude tribal populations since we do not have one now. Why does the SE have less total population than the other regions? Simple answer: (1) reduction in number of kids and to a lesser extent (2) emigration (travel) of the population. I have mentioned both in my opening post. Now go to bed.

Hehe, have I not shown you what the population difference is between all the major ethnic groups in this country already?
grin grin grin grin, you sound so silly, honestly it is so easy to counter all the nosense you say here.

Ok,this is your foolish reasoning: smaller state means bigger population due to less space. Not even kids are this ignorant.

Ok I shall end this argument here, Is Osun,Ekiti,Ebonyi,Abia,Akwa ibom,Rivers,Enugu or even Abuja as densely populated as Anambra or Imo?

They are similar in land area right, so why are they not as densely populated as Anambra or Imo. You don't have to be an expert to understand that those two states are just naturally overpopulated. I won't make a fool out of you, your doing a good job of that yourself.

Admitting this truth at hand will not kill you.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by juman(m): 10:00pm On Aug 27, 2015
Oh my God. grin grin grin grin

When other people were busy developing their countries, the useless nigerian "leaders" were busy building their castles and their fat bank accounts.

A destroyed country.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by gnykelly(m): 10:21pm On Aug 27, 2015
INTROVERT:
we know the people guilty of this.. grin
are you in anyway wonuola.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by mikolo80: 3:46pm On Aug 28, 2015
omowolewa:
Ma wo eleyi keh! Did I complain on their behalf? Are you in anyway related to our mai-guard ni?
Oga Ade! Leave mi o
the Mai guard is happy you're the one displaying the good training your parents gave you online that constitutes complaining
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by itstpia8: 5:09pm On Oct 21, 2015
but is the birth rate not falling?
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by cjrane: 5:10pm On Oct 21, 2015
Tell Buhari to start a war to depopulate Nigeria.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by itstpia8: 5:11pm On Oct 21, 2015
mikolo80:
so why taking panadol for another man's headache

your questions are funny and weird.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by TIMEISWISDOM(m): 5:38pm On Oct 21, 2015
anulaxad:


Why must you bring ethnicity into this?

I'm adding your name to my thread immediately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population#/media/File:Population_density_map_of_Nigerian_states_-_English.png

What world I'm I living in, other than Lagos the two most densely populated states are Imo and Anambra. Honestly why are you so ignorant.


Are you consciously trying to distort facts?

Or you don't know the difference between population density and population?

Even if an average Igbo family should have just one child, the population density of Ndigbo in general will still be relatively high due to limited land space
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by TIMEISWISDOM(m): 5:41pm On Oct 21, 2015
anulaxad:


I am an expert at Geography so I clearly know what the difference between population density and and population size. You can argue all you like, those states after Lagos are the most crowed, why because population control was not an issue at hand according to citizens living in those states.
Kano or Oyo is not as crowded as the states mentioned earlier. The whole point of population control is to watch out for space management and to avoid a denser population area per Km-sq.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_language
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausa_language

Population of those who speak each language. There isn't a huge gap in terms of population size between both our languages.

What's more interesting is that there are millions of other speakers of Hausa across west Africa including Niger, and so of Yoruba in Benin and Togo, but Igbo is mainly or only spoken In Nigeria. So Stop your ethnic slurs.
Typical Nigerian professional.
Always easily a disgrace to his/ her profession.

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Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by mikolo80: 3:13am On Oct 22, 2015
itstpia8:


your questions are funny and weird.
how come
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by adconline(m): 3:44am On Oct 22, 2015
I
anulaxad:


Why must you bring ethnicity into this?

I'm adding your name to my thread immediately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population#/media/File:Population_density_map_of_Nigerian_states_-_English.png

What world I'm I living in, other than Lagos the two most densely populated states are Imo and Anambra. Honestly why are you so ignorant.


Offering ignorant opinion from the bottomless pit of ut ignorance.. In terms of population density, Anambra has smaller land mass than Kano, but Kano is the most populous state in Naija with huge land mass but fewer resources.
Re: Nigeria's Economy Can't Cope With Current Population, NPC Boss by TonySpike: 6:58am On Oct 22, 2015
While serving in the South East, Enugu to be precise, about 7 years ago, I met a monogamist family with ten kids and counting. I have never seen any monogamy family in the South West with ten kids in one full swoop , save for those practising polygamy. The truth is that - polygamy in the South West is overrated - because in most cases, the average number of kids per woman is still lower than what is obtained in the South East. This is where I fault the opinion(s) of some posters up there. Many contemporary monogamist families from the East, still have up to six kids these days, this is more higher in the rural areas. This is the exact reason why many Igbo families in the East are only able to sponsor their kids up to JSS 3, or at best, SS 3. I noticed this during my stay in the East. The immediate cause of this is that many kids start to fend for themselves thereafter by migrating to "learn trade" in commercial cities like Lagos, Onitsha, Aba e.t.c. However, I agree that some contemporary Igbo families do have smaller numbers, the average number of kids per family remains a subject of dispute. I will conservatively put this at a number of 4 kids per monogamy family.

In the South West, I expect higher figures in Oyo and Osun where the influence of polygamy is still very strong. Ekiti and Ondo tend to have higher monogamist tendencies though, followed by Ogun and Lagos. I will still conservatively put the average number of kids "per woman" in the South West as four (4).

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