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Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by OkutaNla:
pazienza:
Lol! The Roman empire Crumbled under it's own weight, it wasnt conquered and turned into a vassal state by a foreign empire.
Guy, you just exposed your ignorance by the quoted statement. A simple google search would've saved you from the embarrassment. Smh. Cc: Truckpusher.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/fallofrome.htm

In 376, the Visigoths crossed the Danube River - a traditional boundary of the Roman Empire - and swarmed southward. Two years later, the Visigoths defeated the Romans at the battle of Adrianople, further weakening the Empire.

A year later, the Visigoths sacked Rome and continued on to Spain.

In 455 they (the Vandals) followed in the footsteps of the Visigoths and sacked Rome. The Western Roman Empire was dead. However, a vestige of Rome lived on. Its Eastern portion, with its capital at Constantinople, lasted for another 1000 years until the city was sacked by the Muslims in 1453.
The Ottomans took over that Eastern portion of Constantinople which is today the Turkish (Muslim) city of Istanbul. Thank me later.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by okongo(m): 7:07pm On Oct 21, 2015
our problem is not our ethinicity. Whether yoruba. hausa or ibo. we have these thieves-politician who has been robbing us of good leadership. The road to your village in Nnewi that is terrible was not done by the yorubas. Erosion that is affecting your clan in ibadan was not the fault of the hausas. I was in a village in Bayelsa yesterday and a water project completely paid for by the people and constructed by a brother to one of our so called hero never worked one day. is it because he is ijaw. when this battle of biafra will be won the ibos will see that there was never a need for secession but for us to demand for quality in leadership.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Abagworo(m): 7:08pm On Oct 21, 2015
Truckpusher:
And your kin and kith that has renamed everywhere to sooth their expansionist agenda since 1960 and still distorting history till this very moment are the ones churning out the truths that came from Angel Gabriel himself?

Sit down and search your soul.
Unlike most Igbos I've long rejected you and every confused Igbo speaker. I only accept Egbema, Asa and Ndoki as Igbos in Rivers State. You can even tell that some Igbos hate me for that. You can write your history as you like too but don't claim centralised leadership when you equally come from a decentralised and stateless ethnic group. I am from Oguta and our Kingship is clearly Benin styled and has existed from the time we settled at Orashi area 500 years ago.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by obailala(m): 7:08pm On Oct 21, 2015
hamilton62:
please, don't deviate answer the question.. that is how conversation is achieved
...and who is in a conversation with you?... Are you lost? undecided
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody:
grin grin you gave me away sad
Truckpusher:
You deserve a spank on your batty grin smh
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Eastlink(m): 7:10pm On Oct 21, 2015
Truckpusher:
That's what they will tell you until you're inside then you'll see them for who they really are.

Trust these people at your own peril ,we have seen enough in one Nigeria.We need regional autonomy to safeguard our people's future ,I no wan hear story from inside grave.
Hahahaha! You amuse me my brother. You must be very funny in real life. Well let me take them by their words for now. Let's give them a benefit of doubt. It may turn out better than we expected.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by pazienza(m): 7:10pm On Oct 21, 2015
OkutaNla:
Guy, you just exposed your ignorance by the quoted statement. A simple google search would've saved you from the embarrassment. Smh. Cc: Truckpusher.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/fallofrome.htm



The Ottomans took over that Easter portion of Constantinople which is today the Turkish (Muslim) city of Istanbul. Thank me later.
The Roman empire crumbled under its own weight. The cause of the fall of Roman empire were multifactorial and remains a debate amongst historians.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

Please stay off my mentions if you have nothing tangible to contribute here.
Who doesn't know how Byzantium fell, when it's all over the TV documentaries.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by OkutaNla: 7:19pm On Oct 21, 2015
pazienza:
The Roman empire crumbled under its own weight. The cause of the fall of Roman empire were multifactorial and remains a debate amongst historians.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

Please stay off my mentions if you have nothing tangible to contribute here.
Who doesn't know how Byzantium fell, when it's all over the TV documentaries.
Dude, for once in your life, admit that you goofed. You stated yourself that the Roman empire was never conquered and I presented you with evidence that it in fact was an even lost both its Western (Rome) and Eastern (Constantinople) legs. Don't throw tantrums coz you goofed and I called you out. Be humble for once!
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by pazienza(m): 7:25pm On Oct 21, 2015
OkutaNla:
Dude, for once in your life, admit that you goofed. You stated yourself that the Roman empire was never conquered and I presented you with evidence that it in fact was an even lost both its Western (Rome) and Eastern (Constantinople) legs. Don't throw tantrums coz you goofed and I called you out. Be humble for once!
My opening sentence was that Roman empire crumbled under its own weight. It was a dying empire with too many internal crisis.

No goofing here, everyone know that what was remaining of Roman empire was over ran by the Barbarians. That is elementary history. Nawao!
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by OkutaNla: 7:29pm On Oct 21, 2015
pazienza:
My opening sentence was that Roman empire crumbled under its own weight. It was a dying empire with too many internal crisis.

No goofing here, everyone know that what was remaining of Roman empire was over ran by the Barbarians. That is elementary history. Nawao!
Dude, you are too arrogant for your own good. Who cares why it crumbled? Fact is the Roman empire was decimated on both fronts, irrespective of why it was. Every great empire in history that has crumbled more often than not usually suffers internal decline before being overrun and conquered by external forces, no brainer. The koko is that Rome was decimated by seemingly inconsequential tribes.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by kmariko: 7:33pm On Oct 21, 2015
Quite and interesting read from all sides but seemingly there doesn't seem to be a central theme for this discussion.
That it is all about the current " resurrection " of Biafra is known. But what is confusing for bystanders like me is how this has degenerated into an ethnic cum village " back and forth" between Truckpusher and etc without any distinct ...,clear delineation of differences.

Read carefully all are saying the same thing but with different adjectives.

So basically Piaz and Truckpusher are saying the same thing but couched in various ways that appears at variance with each other.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by pazienza(m): 7:47pm On Oct 21, 2015
OkutaNla:
Dude, you are too arrogant for your own good. Who cares why it crumbled? Fact is the Roman empire was decimated on both fronts, irrespective of why it was. Every great empire in history that has crumbled more often than not usually suffers internal decline before being overrun and conquered by external forces, no brainer. The koko is that Rome was decimated by seemingly inconsequential tribes.
Hmm, maybe we can agree to disagree. Bini empire wasn't over run by smaller kingdoms it had been intimidating time immemorial, it didn't crumble under its own weight, it was over run by the very first superior empire it encountered.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Truckpusher(m): 7:54pm On Oct 21, 2015
pazienza:
The Roman empire crumbled under its own weight. The cause of the fall of Roman empire were multifactorial and remains a debate amongst historians.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

Please stay off my mentions if you have nothing tangible to contribute here.
Who doesn't know how Byzantium fell, when it's all over the TV documentaries.
The Roman empire crumbling under its own weight is a partial narration of the military policies of expansion that followed to cover their conquered territories thereby weakening the empire due to rapid expansion as more and more mercenaries from the neighboring tribes took over military formations thereby weakening the empire but it is an established fact that a ragtag Germanic army of Visigoths and other gothic tribes dealt the final blow to the Roman Empire by battering down the gates and marched into the city unchallenged.

OkutaNLa was right even as yours was also right too.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Truckpusher(m): 7:56pm On Oct 21, 2015
Abagworo:
Unlike most Igbos I've long rejected you and every confused Igbo speaker. I only accept Egbema, Asa and Ndoki as Igbos in Rivers State. You can even tell that some Igbos hate me for that. You can write your history as you like too but don't claim centralised leadership when you equally come from a decentralised and stateless ethnic group. I am from Oguta and our Kingship is clearly Benin styled and has existed from the time we settled at Orashi area 500 years ago.
Who are you to reject me by the way.

Okorocha's dog rejecting me , end shall never wonder. cheesy
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Truckpusher(m): 8:03pm On Oct 21, 2015
Eastlink:
Hahahaha! You amuse me my brother. You must be very funny in real life. Well let me take them by their words for now. Let's give them a benefit of doubt. It may turn out better than we expected.
Lol, Omo! We are one people with one destiny but every group has to be treated equally and not trying to rewrite their history - it's a big turn off.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by fineguy11(m): 8:36pm On Oct 21, 2015
Truckpusher:
With the utterances and bad blood that keep emanating from you guys I'm afraid that every Niger Delta child with an eagle's eye and a deep sense of history should learn fast and reject that idea until we are able to come to a compromise - We are not in a hurry to leave Nigeria yet ,after all our homeland is gone,what is the rush for ,we will wait for a better deal but right now we stick to the old deal.
there's no point arguing with these biafran ignorant folks online....when you express divergent views regarding this biafran issue,,they simply call u a yoruba or a South West....i have vowed never to reply any pro biafra/eastern region crap again on nairaland,...because majority of the biafran propagators on NL are either underaged or illiterates...
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by hamilton62(m): 8:38pm On Oct 21, 2015
obailala:
...and who is in a conversation with you?... Are you lost? undecided
as expected... the yields of cowardice
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by davo3286: 9:32pm On Oct 21, 2015
The fact remains. Whether we like it or not BIAFRA will be RESTORED. It's just a matter of time.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Mimee803: 9:43pm On Oct 21, 2015
So wat r u fighting for or rather who is fighting dis biafra war...gala sellers in lagos traffic? Alaba boys perhaps? Dos Indonesia diaspora igbo peps?...who else is jobless enuf... cheesy
Xpaz:

No State Government would want to show Openly that it support Biafra.
so it is normal
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody: 10:18pm On Oct 21, 2015
Please learn to speak for just your Ogba, don't add Ndoni and Egbema to your folly.

After Ogba people invited the Oba of Bini, and bowed down to him, and then went on to rename their Eze to Oba, was when I knew how hopeless Ogba case is.


I wonder what is holding you inferiority complex suffering fellows from inviting Bini tutors to help teach all Ogba citizens proper Bini, that way you can stop using your current Igbo sounding one. I am sure if Oba Chukwumela made such request, Oba Bini would have obliged.

Oba Chukwumela can also lead the way by changing his name to proper Bini one. Oba Osasomething would be better.

Umu Ogbanje![/quote]
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody: 10:23pm On Oct 21, 2015
Hi pazienza,I am lucas from Nnewi.I have been following your posts and topics here on nairaland.I like your pro-igbo and biafran stance.I have something in the bag you would be interested in.please pm me in my mailbox:meetlucas@ymail.com Thanks
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by coolscott(m): 10:41pm On Oct 21, 2015
uduokirika1:
You are not from Rivers state
Yes, just as Nyesom Wike is a Yoruba man
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by babajero(m): 6:02am On Oct 22, 2015
QuotaSystem:
I thought the Niger Deltans wanted Biafra too...

...clearly Wike and Riverians do not...and their government didn't waste any time to give us the benefit of doubt grin

It is getting increasingly clear that this Biafra movement is located only on web browsers and in the hungry hallucinations of touts and street urchins grin
. Look at how you reason, answer me one question' how many government official in the north or southwest has ever came out to say they support boko haram even when it is obvious they do. All of them live in denial.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by QuotaSystem: 6:04am On Oct 22, 2015
You're long lost.

babajero:
. Look at how you reason, answer me one question' how many government official in the north or southwest has ever came out to say they support boko haram even when it is obvious they do. All of them live in denial.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by babajero(m): 6:55am On Oct 22, 2015
QuotaSystem:
You're long lost.
you don't even exist
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by holwadamilolah(m): 7:32am On Oct 22, 2015
Rapture007:
Yes, , Unity just as AU and other African organizations are helping their people drowning in the Mediterranean Sea just to cross over to a better planned Countries in Europe. Your definition of greed is funny at best. I dont need to lecture u on the events that led to His Excellency, Odimegwu Ojukwu's action cos ur block head, Yoruba propaganda, lies and Lagos-Ibadan-expressway junk journalism have already helped u to form a distorted impression and opinion, so why will I bother.I think Greed is when Yorubas sold Abiola for a plate of Amala or when Awo was among the people that want democracy to thrive in Nigeria but slavishly took an appointment under Military rulership to enrich himself, tribe and possibly become the president only to later drink Otapiapia and die. lemme introduce another word to u: COWARDICE- typified by Yorubas in different instances prominent among them is the running away of Ogundipe who was supposed to take over when Gen Ironsi was killed but being a Yoruba man no one expected more from him cos he just prove the reason that Name Yoruba is synonymous with cowardice.
# Sorry Man, Ojukwu Is the real definition of Cowardice, he went into exile for 13 years when he realize that he can't continue with the War he started, I really don't want to come directly but I think you need a better lesson on those ill hero's you are celebrating , the army force wing for IPOB which is the Niger delta militant and their leadership were bought with money, Listen Mr Man, the problem of this your hero's is money and you know what, this is also an attribute of Greed# more if u want but I rest my case #go n check the video broadcast of Ojukwu while he was in exile, then you will understand that Unity is very important. A United Nigeria is a powerful Nigeria. Quote me anywhere #am not tribalistic. I just see no reason to dis unity nigeria for those past hero's instead we should unity nigeria so we can be the Hero of our unborn generation
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by princejayboss: 10:48am On Oct 22, 2015
coolscott:
It is an insult to associate us in Rivers State with movements engineered by pple who we doubt think through properly before they take a position, much less before they act.

The people of Rivers State, with ancient kingdoms and political structures spanning hundreds of years before the white man came.

Please we have not much in common with those south east people whose current day chieftaincy system was instituted by the white man because he needed a way to govern them in some sort of organised way. The white man had to install paramount chiefs for them so that his indirect rule could work.

It pays to know more about the country we call ours. Of course it gets us better informed, but besides that, our social story (both present and especially historical) is that interesting.
Am not a fan of Nnamdi kanu and will not until he changes his style and approach... But I want make one point clear.... You absolutely do not know one bit of history... Though i don't blame you, I blame Nigeria for her failure to make un-misplaced history study in schools a mandatory course ... When I have time ... I will teach you some
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by coolscott(m): 1:28pm On Oct 22, 2015
princejayboss:
Am not a fan of Nnamdi kanu and will not until he changes his style and approach... But I want make one point clear.... You absolutely do not know one bit of history... Though i don't blame you, I blame Nigeria for her failure to make un-misplaced history study in schools a mandatory course ... When I have time ... I will teach you some
Please do get some water to drink.

My mum is a Sierra-Leonean creole with years of history traced down back to Nigeria.My dad's grand dad wrote good English. And the list goes on.

Our ancient kings (in the south-south) knew how to read and write. Both my mum's people and my dad's people have a culture of passing down history to their kids. The creoles did it by writing and word of mouth, my father's people (in the south-south) did it by writing and word of mouth. On what special privileged information did you come to the conclusion that I know nothing of history?

I think you were just expressing a wish. Well... we know what they say about wishes and horses.

Whatever the case, please teach me here in public, and let everyone know what special information you have, which has inspired you to respond here to my post so.
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by EzePromoe:
[color=#DC143C]Well let me pay my own quota in lecturing you by dissecting this poor defence mechanism you've just put up here;[/color]
HopeAtHand:
Things that you cannot change, you accept. Ikwerre is an Ikwerre speaking tribe, maybe i need to explain to you, that Ikwerres speak Ikwerre as their language.[/b]
[color=#DC143C]Yes we speak Ikwerre as our language but did our progenitors ascend from the ground with Ikwerre language? Don't you think this language was developed from somewhere not necessarily superior. Going by your postulation then there are over 50 'tribes' in Rivers state. Seems you don't know the meaning of a tribe? Ikwerre is an ethnic group and no matter how you deny this vehemently, we're speaking Igbo creole, that is why an Ikwerreman who has never left his father's compound will understand Igbo language though he won't start speaking it immediately. You won't understand this because you're not Ikwerre. I understand that many of our youths today don't know our history and sadly enough they don't care to know either, that is why ignorance is prevalent in our society today.[/color]

Etche prior to this present times are usually grouped alongside Ikwerre
[color=#DC143C][b]I know it's the word KELGA that is deceiving you because that is the only instance you can give to buttress your assertion. Now, here is how the word 'KELGA' came about: Then under the Old Rivers (comprising of the present Rivers and Bayelsa states) both Ikwerre, Etche, Omuma and Emohua were under a local government authority known as Ikwerre/Etche Local Government Authority. There is even a high school still named by this location (County Grammar School Ikwerre/Etche) which is between Igwuruta and Chokocho, that is my alma mater. Now back to your point, do you think that those who created the local government were stupid not to have made that distinction between 'Ikwerre' and 'Etche'? Why was it not simply called Ikwerre Local Government since Etche people were once Ikwerre according to you. Like I said earlier I'm happy that you're picking up. Then it was 'Etche speak some kind of Ikwerre' now it is 'they're grouped alongside with Ikwerre'. I believe next time you'll come up with something better.[/b][/color]

Their language is very intelligible to an Ikwerre guy
[color=#DC143C]Nice guess. Etche dialect is almost similar to the Mbaise dialect. For the fact an Ikwerre man will understand Igbo on his first hearing, he will also understand Etche like Igbo. Here amongst Ikwerre, we even consider them to be pure Igbos though some won't agree. But when an Ozuzu man or Isu man or Akwukabi man speaks, I bet it that an Ikwerreman will not understand a sentence. IGBO language is always what it is, differing per square mile. As for Ikwerre, forget it! An Etche man who hasn't lived in Ikwerre land won't understand a sentence from it.[/color]

and parts of Ikwerre specifically Ibaa have their roots in Ahoada..so their Ibaa dialect is intelligible to Ahoada.
[color=#DC143C]Jesus! shocked
First of all, there are many distinct ethnic Igboid and Ijoid groups that make up Ahaoda. Do you know that Ahoada is divided into two local government, Ahoada East and Ahoada West. Ibaa does not even border Ahoada to start with. Who is feeding you with all this junk? Do that person know the distance between these two places. Ibaa is reputed to have one of the most complicated Ikwerre dialect. I from Igwuruta need to put my ears on ground carefully and figure out what they are saying. How come somebody from Ahoada will understand this with ease. You've just proven to all NLders that you're no Rivers man talkless of Ikwerre. Even an Ogoni man knows that there's a big difference between Ikwerre and Ahoada.
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And so you know, a percentage of the land called Oyigbo LGA belongs to Eleme and Iriebe and Woji peeps of Obio/Akpor LGA..that Oyigbo peeps chhose to be identified as Igbos and live there doesn't detract anything from my earlier submission.
[color=#DC143C]Please name the part of Obigbo land owned by Eleme or Iriebe not by making empty assertions. It seems to me like you're using Google map to dictate and allocate piece of lands. You don't know that there are errors in that application. I've observed many of them.[/color]

I have given you a lecture..Thank me later.
[color=#DC143C]More like you've subtly requested for a lecture. Luckily enough, you got one for yourself. You claim to be from Ogbakiri but I can bet my entire fortune that you can't name the villages in Ogbakiri or the neighbouring towns. You'll crawl to Google as usual to save your face.

Cheruv Tonychristopher Freeglobe shota xtorse Easternlion and so on, you guys should stop dissing the Ikwerres because of this boy because he's not one.
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Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ocelot2006(m): 11:17am On Oct 23, 2015
kingzizzy:
Of course they don't want Biafra. What they want is the Almajiris of the North and the greedy Southwesterners to come and collect their Oil wealth on a daily basis abi?
Are you any better? Apparently youve forgotten that you treated minorities the very same way during the civil war. What WE WANT is to decide our own destiny OURSELVES. Got that?
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by 1adewoye: 7:21pm On Oct 24, 2015
IGBOSON1:
^^^Look who's calling one a bigot! A debased pogrom loving spawn of lucifer calling someone a bigot!?......Joke of the century!

Listen mate! Igboland depends on absolutely nothing from toerags like you!

I guess you're not conversant with the strafing and bombing raids carried out on farms, markets and schools by the Egyptian mercenaries your evil kinsmen brought into the war when it was becoming clearer as the months went by that Nigeria couldn't defeat Biafra in a clean fight!?

You're not aware that Nigeria resorted to giving away a large chunk of her territory (Bakassi) to Cameroon in order to get Ahmadu Ahidjo to block the Biafran supply routes from the eastern flank!? Yet again we see you bastards unilaterally making life-changing decisions for an entire group of people without bothering to ask for their opinion on the matter! Today the Bakassi people are refugees and homeless because of you scum!

I guess you're not aware of the starvation policy dreamed up by Awo! A policy used as a last resort when it became all to apparent that even with your Egyptian planes and shooting at any and everything that moves, that it was going to be impossible to beat the plucky Biafran soldiers into submission!?

Isn't it funny that you say i can't do without you yet i want out of this shithole you call a country; and on the other hand, a two-faced animal like you is clinging on to 'one Nigeria' like your life depends on it!?

Who's fooling who!?
You are fooling yourself with a four-eyed view of history, cannibalistic dog!
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by salamido: 10:43pm On Oct 31, 2015
Tripleclick:
plz , shut up ... Nigeria shud hv not blockade our border tru russia and british force and sign out bakassi to comeron,, now de r beggin boko haram to surrender , why not blockade dm.. nonsense
You shut up your opened back-end, onyori!
Did anybody stop weak and hapless biafrans from breaching the blockade?
Did anyone force you to wage an impossible war against Nigeria?
Abeg, blame your egotistic ojukwu!
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