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Patchesagain:
Government spending on public order and safety and on defence will continue to increase, from R163 billion this year to R193 billion by 2017/18. Police services receive about 48 per cent of the total allocation

Budget provision for border safeguarding and regional security amounts to R2.8 billion and R4.5 billion, respectively, over the next three years.

http://www.sacommercialpropnews.co.za/south-africa-economy/7134-highlights-of-south-africa-budget-speech-2015.html

Unlike you I dont post bullsh1t

agaugust:
Bwahahaah

Envy galore! South African defense industry has not produced robots like Nigeria....your shitty SouthAfrica defense industry, if the white men don't do it for you it never gets done because you coloreds and blacks are dullards for life

South African defense industry is dominated by European companies opening branches in South Africa and forced by your BEE program to sell shares to incompetent blacks to put them put on the board of directors by force

BAE is British, Rheinmetal is German, and Reutech is also European origin.

The day a black or colored South African builds a robot and rocket in the class of what Nigerian blacks have done, I will apply for South African visa and come to congratulate Zulu men
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andrewza:
And yes we dont have the best ASW helcopter, nore have we. Its still better than yours and we actually have submarines unlike some countries.

DictatorZAR:
Whenever you loose a argument you resort to your racial antics.

You quickly forgot we blasted this very shiiiit you wrote now some months ago when it was proven that black engineers actually worked on the A-Datar system.

By the way black, white or coloured who cares when they all are SA citizens. You have to come up with a better argument you f@ckup f.ool still suffering from racial inferiority complex.

agaugust:
Nigerian AFIT is not a garage, it's like a polytechnic/college of tech, they are building NAF Farawa light aircraft.

Gulma drone is hi-tech.

The drone in that photo above is not Gulma, it's likely the Amebo III drone.

South African hi-tech weapons are produced with foreign help. Finland helping you to build Badger IFV, Brazil gave you hitech for A-Darter missile, you Zulus/Xhosas/Bantus have no hitech brain of your own, your brains can only produce Shaka Zulu spear
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agaugust:
Your navy does NOT even have any ASW helicopter at all, your Super Lynx is a mere search and rescue chopper you bought for the price of an ATR-42 Surveyor......poor thinking
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SPOPOVICH:
Nigeria has hired mercenaries to combat Boko Haram as military chiefs face a December deadline to crush the militants, according to senior military sources.
Turkish news agency, Anadolu Agency, reports that the mercenaries, estimated at around 250 personnel and hired from South Africa-based private contractor Specialized Tasks, Training, Equipment and Protection (STTEP), are being deployed along with fighter jets in Operation Fire Force, a source at Nigeria’s defense headquarters said on condition of anonymity.
“The mercenaries have been reengaged and their platforms are being deployed,” the source said. “By platforms, I mean fighter jets, helos [helicopters], coms [communication], surveillance, medics, etc.”
STTEP includes veterans from the South African apartheid era who will work with and train a Nigerian strike force, according to the source.
Another army source confirmed the development to Anadolu Agency. “There is definitely something happening in that direction,” the source said, again on condition of anonymity.
According to STTEP’s official website, the company’s trainers and advisers are drawn from “conventional, clandestine, and covert units of the pre-1994 South African Defense Force”.
It claims to have a proven track record of success in Africa, the Middle East, the Far East and Central and South America.
Describing the use of mercenaries to fight militants as “shameful” during the March 2015 election campaign, Nigeria’s President Muhammadu Buhari condemned the practice. Buhari, a retired general, said the practice represented the depth of weakness of the Nigerian army.
Asked why the Buhari administration is again deploying mercenaries, the defense HQ source said it appeared to be the most practical option if headway was to be made against militants whose guerilla tactics are new to the Nigerian military.
Nigeria claimed significant success against the militants in the run-up to the March election, with some analysts crediting the mercenaries.
Boko Haram threat
Boko Haram has emerged as a serious threat in Nigeria. More than 1,700 people have been killed since Buhari took office on May 29, according to an Oct. 7 report from the International Society for Civil Liberties and the Rule of Law. Since then, more than 100 have died in suicide bombings in Borno and Yobe states.
According to the army HQ source, the Buhari administration initially terminated the mercenary contract because it was “opaque and without accountability”. However, a new agreement was reached to boost the counterinsurgency operation.
“As it stands now, huge amounts of monies are owed to the contractors as fulfillment for the previous engagement,” the HQ source added. “So they are starting a new engagement for an initial period of three months. As for their outstanding balances, investigations are being carried out to ensure everything is above board.”
The Nigerian military did not respond to Anadolu Agency’s request for comment.
However, presidential spokesman Garba Shehu denied the government was engaging mercenaries again.
“It is true that the previous administration hired South African mercenaries to fight Boko Haram,” he said. “They, however, left with the government that brought them.”
“Since coming into office, this government did not have any engagement with mercenaries of any kind and there are no plans to do so.”
Siphiwe Dlamini, a spokesman for the South African National Defense Force (SANDF), said his country did not have any troops in Nigeria but could not say if private mercenaries were operating there.
“I wish to reiterate there are no SANDF personnel in Nigeria fighting Boko Haram,” he told Anadolu Agency. “If there are South Africans who are there as you allege they are not our members but private citizens.”
“I cannot comment on what private citizens are doing in any part of the world.”
STTEP did not respond to emailed requests for comment.
Earlier this year, South Africa’s Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula issued a stern warning to South African mercenaries, saying they had no business in Nigeria and should be arrested on their return.
“Now that the matter has been brought to our attention, it is [up to us] to verify that information as the government,” she told broadcaster SABC at the time. “The police have a responsibility to make sure that when they come back these people are arrested.”
South African law forbids its citizens from participating in foreign wars. Most South African mercenaries are believed to be soldiers who fought for the apartheid regime.
Impending campaign
The Nigerian army has spoken about impending military deployments against Boko Haram, saying in a statement over the weekend that the country’s sovereignty was under threat.
“The next few days would be crucial to the operation Lafiya Dole [Peace by Force],” army chief Lt. Gen. Tukur Buratai said in a message to troops. “It is also crucial to our country Nigeria. Our sovereignty as a nation is threatened.”
“The Nigerian army and indeed the military as the symbol of our nationhood is being challenged. Our ability to stand and defeat the Boko Haram terrorists in the next few weeks will determine the future of our country.”
The use of mercenaries is not a new phenomenon in Nigeria’s conflicts. Hundreds of French mercenaries fought on the side of Biafran rebels against the Nigerian army in the late 1960s.
However, recall that President Muhammadu Buhari recently gave a December deadline to the military to end the insurgency ravaging the north-east.
But in a dramatic u-turn last Monday, Service Chiefs told the President that their effort to completely rout out Boko Haram insurgents in the insurgency-ravaged region, may not be feasible after all, as it was being threatened by weather and logistics.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/dec-deadline-again-nigeria-hires-mercenaries-to-battle-boko-haram/

andrewza:
For SAR it carries some rather powerful radar, wepaons opstions and comuncastion sytems. It all so still better at ASW than any thing you have and a better MPA than your ATR42.

SPOPOVICH:
nigeria has the most useless military in the world.

https://www.nairaland.com/2683485/nigeria-hires-mercenaries-battle-boko

DictatorZAR:
There are cheap of the shelf drone I can buy today from my local goods story that are better then your drones.

Tell me why did Nigeria go buy knock of CH3 drones if your local garage drones are that good. Why didn't you arm Gulma.

So the Umkhonto, Mokopa, Ingwe, Seeker I, II and 400 were also not high tech. So the Umkhonto naval SAM that is in service in both Swedish and Finnish Navies are not high tech either.

70% of the Badger IFV is indigenous SA tech including its weapons systems. Show me one IFV in Nigeria that has a made in Nigeria sign.

Denel just bought BAE land systems from BAE.

Denel produce the fuselage for the A400M and other components also. What does Nigeria produce that is currently used by French, UK or German airforces.

Come back when you are more mature and not ranting like a jealous ex biitch.

Pic one throws your argument straight to the dustbin.

Pic two is actual SA made Denel tech being exported to the world, even your own army has a few.


Black engineers my @Ass now run of you useless so called military analysts.

agaugust:
You posting bullshiiiit, did you read your own post? No wonder you avoided posting the weblink source until we asked for it.

Most of the money increase is going to Police not military, and security of borders means more funds to counter illegal immigration and Rhino poaching.

So how does that translate to the main battle tank photo you added to the story?

You think we are fools here?

SANDF remains broke. Police and border guards gets the money
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Patchesagain:
Read the fist post i made on the topic
SANDF gets R15 billio (50% of 30billion)
SANDF is responsible for border security
Deal with it fagget

agaugust:
Bwahahaah

Envy galore! South African defense industry has not produced robots like Nigeria....your shitty SouthAfrica defense industry, if the white men don't do it for you it never gets done because you coloreds and blacks are dullards for life

South African defense industry is dominated by European companies opening branches in South Africa and forced by your BEE program to sell shares to incompetent blacks to put them put on the board of directors by force

BAE is British, Rheinmetal is German, and Reutech is also European origin.

The day a black or colored South African builds a robot and rocket in the class of what Nigerian blacks have done, I will apply for South African visa and come to congratulate Zulu men
.

agaugust:
Nigerian AFIT is not a garage, it's like a polytechnic/college of tech, they are building NAF Farawa light aircraft.

Gulma drone is hi-tech.

The drone in that photo above is not Gulma, it's likely the Amebo III drone.

South African hi-tech weapons are produced with foreign help. Finland helping you to build Badger IFV, Brazil gave you hitech for A-Darter missile, you Zulus/Xhosas/Bantus have no hitech brain of your own, your brains can only produce Shaka Zulu spear
.

agaugust:
When I posted Nigeria's Ichoku hand held drone here you said we don't have it in service yet, so now you cannot change the rules.

We don't want story story double standards, the line is drawn on this forum. Any weapon not in service is not recognized.

SANDF has NOT even ordered Umkhonto missile, and no proof there are any missiles left after test firing, and only one launcher built, so drop it in the thrash bin.

When Umkhonto land based enters service, come back and talk, for now YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY WORTHY AIR DEFENCE MISSILE in SANDF
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agaugust:
Your navy does NOT even have any ASW helicopter at all, your Super Lynx is a mere search and rescue chopper you bought for the price of an ATR-42 Surveyor......poor thinking
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agaugust:
Brazil gave DENEL the technology for A-Darter missile, the project was grounded and stcuk for many years until Brazilian engineering company came to do the job for DENEL. Those black guys are incompetent BEE employees forced on companies by your ANC goverment

I have no complex, as a Nigerian I actually feel superior to you because my father rescued your father from the white man's chains and cage.

You come here to use European brains to boast about South Africa, what have you blacks and coloureds invented in the hitech world ?

agaugust:
False information....No name of military spokesman, no information from Nigerian military HQ
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agaugust:
Black Soweto engineer forced on DENEL by BEE programme, see the man looking at what the white engineers built, he is admiring it and asking why Zulu/Bantu brains cannot build anything but spears, bows and arrows.

BAE is British, they sold shares to DENEL, they bring technology from Britain to you dullards, now you want to claim you own BAE, yes you own shares, but the technology is imported from Europe.

Gulma drone was never intended to be armed, it's good for it's intended job of surveillance.

Does SAAF have any drone? NO.

NAF has drones, and also built local drones, does SAAF engineers build any drone? NO.

Nigerian army does not use DENEL grenade launchers, we use Chinese LG-3.

DENEL is NOT making any fuselage for AM 400, you are making some tiny low tech parts for it, nothing special. The French just found those small parts cheaper from South Africa.

No major world power uses made in South Africa weapons, except some MRAP vehicles, and they have stopped buying from you, USA now makes better MRAP.

70% of Badger is not made in SA, the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland and imported, all you did was weld some steel together to make the body.....the major component of any vehicle is engine/chassis.

You like stealing other countries' glory and claiming it for Southies.

Thief !

agaugust:
Black Soweto engineer forced on DENEL by BEE programme, see the man looking at what the white engineers built, he is admiring it and asking why Zulu/Bantu brains cannot build anything but spears, bows and arrows.

BAE is British, they sold shares to DENEL, they bring technology from Britain to you dullards, now you want to claim you own BAE, yes you own shares, but the technology is imported from Europe.

Gulma drone was never intended to be armed, it's good for it's intended job of surveillance.

Does SAAF have any drone? NO.

NAF has drones, and also built local drones, does SAAF engineers build any drone? NO.

Nigerian army does not use DENEL grenade launchers, we use Chinese LG-3.

DENEL is NOT making any fuselage for AM 400, you are making some tiny low tech parts for it, nothing special. The French just found those small parts cheaper from South Africa.

No major world power uses made in South Africa weapons, except some MRAP vehicles, and they have stopped buying from you, USA now makes better MRAP.

70% of Badger is not made in SA, the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland and imported, all you did was weld some steel together to make the body.....the major component of any vehicle is engine/chassis.

You like stealing other countries' glory and claiming it for Southies.

Thief !

agaugust:
DENEL is NOT making any fuselage for AM 400, you are making some tiny low tech parts for it, nothing special. The French just found those small parts cheaper from South Africa.

agaugust:
BAE is British, they sold shares to DENEL, they bring technology from Britain to you dullards, now you want to claim you own BAE, yes you own shares, but the technology is imported from Europe.

DictatorZAR:
Shame I feel your pain.

I see you know in full damage control mode to a point where the usual Igbo tribalist hate mentality has come fully to the operational now

Here go read on what we produce for the A400M and its way more then anything any African country ever produce for any major aircraft in the world.
http://www.denelaerostructures.com/customers/current-customers/airbus

I'm sorry for causing you so much butttt hurt F@UCKTARD

agaugust:
SAN Super Lynx helicopter has NO sonar NO torpedo, it is NOT ASW.

ATR-42 has more than radar, it's too good to compare to your any helicopter MPA in this world.

Patchesagain:
Woops!!

Let me dig up the source

Yeah dude just check the mini-budget, they said Defence and Security would go up by R30billion and that 40% of that was going to SAPS

EVarn:
Nigerian media has become so misguided and uncultured,our journalists have become disturbingly fond of waking up in the morning and squeezing fake news out of their balls!; I was quite astonished yesterday when I read the news about Nigeria hiring 350(imagine!) SA mercenaries to fight BH.I further noted the reporter mentioning that the "mercenaries" will bring along "fighter jets and tanks" to prosecute the war against BH; then I asked myself,what sort of "mercenaries" own personnal fighter jets?.
How can mercenaries have fighter jets and tanks?: vanguard,punch and other news outlets claimed to have gotten their reports from "anonymous military sources".
It is time for our journalists to stop fabricating lies that can be detrimental to national security,in their greedy jostle to clinch the "best journalist of the year" award.
Accurate report has later surface from the DHQ:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/178529-nigeria-denies-hiring-mercenaries-to-fight-boko-haram.html

iblawi:
when I heard the news i was shocked but after seeing fighter jets helicopters etc I new it was fault cos boko haram issue is no longer requiring fighter jet but intelligence. We need to do something about this suicide bombers quickly. DHQ has denied it and am sure the newspapers that started this will be in trouble. This was the same thing that caused Alamesiagha his life few weeks ago.