₦airaland Forum

jpphilips:
If you have never heard Lunatic Nnamdi Kanu referring to Niger delta as Biafra land then you are Deaf by default.
He said that Buhari was bombing Calabar Biafra land, what exactly does he mean by that?

jpphilips:
The Niger delta is a sedimentary tract that starts from the mouth of the Niger river where it begins to form tributaries down to the gulf of Guinea, If you saw Imo there then you need Academic help.
I know You think that NDDC means member of Niger delta. Iti.
I dont expect a petty trader to know that anyways!!
IMO is Niger delta by political Configuration not Geographical.

pazienza:
Ojukwu is from the SE part of Nigeria where not even a single drop of oil has a chance of flowing same for Nnamdi Kanu, yet both of them (by body language) have an eye on SS oil, How are they different from the Northerners feasting on the SS oil?
I speak from facts not fiction.

Yet another round of speculations coming from interpretations from body language, and not facts, but yet forced down the throat of the watching audience as facts. Clearly some people think they are in the local village beer parlour, where they spew craps to the uneducated villagers and go free. Lol.

pazienza:
Another fact that you misplaced is that Niger delta never presented 100% resource control, it was an activist on the radio just like Nnamdi Kanu that mentioned it, at the time they submitted a proposal for the conference, they proposed 50%, even at that, the Nigerian side had a superior argument, The Nigerian side argued that if that should happen, they will cease to benefit 13% from offshore oil, NDDC and Ministry of Niger delta will cease to be funded from the National budget & if they want to have total control of all the oil fields, they will be ready to pay exploratory cost beyond 2004 (when we signed the PSC) and Operating tax in arrears post 2004 till whenever.
They quickly reverted to the 13% status quo.


The Nigerian oil sector wasn't developed by funds realized from groundnut or Cocoa, it was the oil companies who bore the initial cost of exploration and exploitation, took their gain and paid the central govt their own token.

It was from that token still generated from crude oil that the FG ran the govt and still 're invested in further exploration.

In other words, the oil industry is a self sustaining one, the money Nigeria can claim to have invested there, came directly from there too. With or without Arewa-Oduanistans, the oil industry will thrive , the fund you claim to have invested in the sector , you got it from the sector.

pazienza:
It may equally interest you to note that Jonathan a son of the soil whose land is floating on oil and gas in literal terms smuggled in 10% community funds into the PIB hoping that the Niger delta will get 23% in cumulative sum, these are the cards the Nigerian side already have on the table, can you tell me exactly what Biafra is proposing? outside claiming all Niger delta areas as Biafra land and intimidating the SS to accept their terms over a fraudulent radio broadcast, give me a break!!


Biafra is proposing a modern state run on total resource control, where the units contribute to the centre, and not the centre cornering the resources of the units and turning it to bonanza for all.

Biafra is proposing a nation built on equity, shared culture, religion, language, and understanding built over centuries of co existence.

Biafra is promising everything Nigeria can never afford.

pazienza:
** Nigeria produce more oil offshore than in Niger delta #fact#

Does Ethiopia have right over Eritrea sea coasts? How will Nigeria have right over oil wealth located on the coasts of bight of Biafra?

The moment the former Eastern region and Anioma unite in Biafra, is the moment Nigeria lose all claims to resources found in the bight of Biafra.

The oil wealth in those offshore, belongs to the communities living close to those seas, not those in Ogbomosho, Maiduguiri or even Enugu.

pazienza:
"With the war ended, and as a
Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon
found that the Rivers State for which I had
fought did not end my nightmare. In the
first place, oil money from Ogoni country
(as well as Ijaw country) was being carted
away to LAGOS, leaving the Ogoni illiterate
and backward. This is anti-federalism". - Ken Saro Wiwa

Well, first it was Lagos, when they were done, it became Abuja, a modern city built from scratch in a semi desert Arewaland.
Then Kano LGA increased to 40 plus to enable more siphoning of the ND crude oil wealth.

To rob salt to injury, a refinery in Kaduna, another desert.

All these while the oil region laid in decay.

Now we know who has sight on ND oil wealth, and already has their fangs sinked deep on it.

Meanwhile, look at the person who fought hard to move the NLNG to PH, the Niger delta capital, oops! It's an Igbo man.

Guess those who opposed him , including trying to blackmail him to delay the relocation and insisted on having the NLNG remain in Lagos? Yea the Arewa-Oduanistans.saharareporters.com/2011/10/27/nlng-managing-director-70-million-headquarters-relocation-controversy

What was NLNG doing in Arewa-Oduanistan in the first place instead of the ND? Never mind, it was sited there by Biafrans who had sight on ND oil wealth and not by Arewa-Oduanistans, remind me again what Awo wanted from Ojukwu ? Yea, you guessed right, Gowon offered it to him, right? Well Saro Wiwa lamentation seem to suggest so.

pazienza:
You are too dull. Ironsi was murdered for his attempt at entrenching unitary system of government in the system. He only just about unified the civil service before he was murdered by those opposed to his unitary plans.

Is it not stupid to suggest that the reason why the same people that killed Ironsi for attempting to implement unitary system , went on to not only implement the system but bastardized it and created dysfunctional units called states was because Ironsi attempted to promote the unitary system?
Isn't this your argument self defeating.

You really need your head examined.

pazienza:
You are too dull. Ironsi was murdered for his attempt at entrenching unitary system of government in the system. He only just about unified the civil service before he was murdered by those opposed to his unitary plans.

Is it not stupid to suggest that the reason why the same people that killed Ironsi for attempting to implement unitary system , went on to not only implement the system but bastardized it and created dysfunctional units called states was because Ironsi attempted to promote the unitary system?
Isn't this your argument self defeating.

You really need your head examined.

jpphilips:
You just confirmed you are a trader with little or no education, Why is the union between the Nigerian Government and the oil companies called a Joint venture?
Explain how a joint venture is formed?
chai!!

Duru1:
Besides the idiocy that emanated from the military regimes led by Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri and dumbass minorities from northern region of Nigeria since the end of Nigeria/Biafra war, do you know any other standard that represented Niger Delta? When Asaba and even Owerri acted as headquarters of certain Niger Delta entities, Calabar and some idiotic localities that tend to force themselves into Niger Delta crap were not included in Niger Delta. As for Calabar being referred as Biafra land, the sane man called Nnamdi Kanu was absolutely correct because Calabar was part and parcel of defunct Eastern Region of Nigeria which became Biafra on May, 1967. If there is anybody who remotely appeared deaf and ignorant on this subject matter, it is safe to say you are the one and plentifully idiotic, sir.

jpphilips:
An ignorant trader who lack education always have a radio opinion. Decree 34 was Ironsi's Legacy, he would have created the states if he lived long enough.

He was murdered in retaliation for the coup of the majors not because of any Unitary government he created.
I dont really expect a trader to know much history though

jpphilips:
If Biafra is anything to be proud of, people like us would have marched for it before these nincompoops were born, I wouldn't have bothered schooling them till i saw their determination in front of my office two days ago.
I dont give a double fvck what touts do with their spare time, I am only bringing to the notice of people who may hide behind ignorance in committing political, Geographical and historical suicide.
Most of them are illiterates so they need academic help once in a while.

pazienza:
Taa! Nigeria started operating joint ventures with oil companies from 1973, at which time she had earned enough money from loyalties paid to her by the oil companies, to be a major player herself.

Before 1973, there was no joint ventures, Nigeria simply offered exploration licences to oil companies, who when they strike oil, exploit them, deduct their operation cost, take their profits and give Nigeria some loyalties.

That's pretty much how it was. Until the joint venture ish with NNOC in 1973.

pazienza:
The key word here is "would". But he didn't. He was murdered before he could do that.

History records that it was Gowon that dissolved the regions and their autonomy and then created the states.

History also records that it was Obasanjo, an Arewa-Oduanistan that created the Land use decree, that dispossessed the indigenous people of ND the claim to their land and resources, and he and his Arewa-Oduanistan successors went on to use the oil wealth of the ND to build up Lagos and then build a world class city in the middle of barren desert of Arewanistan called Abuja, while the Ecosystem of Niger deltans were destroyed and their ancestral lands( Bakassi) given away to Cameroun as a reward for helping the Arewa-Oduanistans get their hands on Eastern oil wealth.


How you lots try to put it on Ironsi is funny. Did dead Ironsi force Gowon to abolish the regions?

jpphilips:
Trader, how is a joint venture formed whether in 1973 or 2033, how is a joint venture formed? ?

jpphilips:
Who promulgated the decree that empowered Gowon to create the initial 12 states??

kingzizzy:
Your feeble attempt to to to justify the British invented fraud known as Nigeria makes interesting read because it is laughable beyond comprehension. What even makes it more funny is your aguement to keep the Southern minorities in Nigeria if the Igbos secede so they can remain perpetual cash cows of Odua/Arewanistan alliance.

Biafra is about the common man on the street. It's about thise you bus conductors, shoe makers and so on. It's not about Ibetos and other Billionaires and politicians. So if you think this is some elitist movement, think again.

You talked about Oil, which we all know is what you Nigerians are after, I already told you that 3 Igbo States are Oil producing but that the main focus of Biafra is not oil because we do not want to be a mono economy like Nigeria so the quantity produced is not the main issue. Ecen if all three Igbo producing state 100 barrels of Oil a day or enough to cover local consumption, we would be quite happy with that. Your so called Nigeria sold millions of barrels a day for many years but has nothing to show for it. Nigeria can't even meet local demand. There are many other things in Biafra that are more precious than you Godforsaken Oil no 1 of which is human development. Some of the richest nations in the world hace no Oil but are succes stories. As for the 3000 barrels of Oil I talked about being produced at Aguleri Otu,this was confirmed in the news not long ago when Chairman of Orient Oil, Emeka Anyaoku, paid the Wille Obiano a courtesy call.

You said that the Tributuaries at Oguta and Ubuaka in Abia are not viable. What made you an expert on Viability of the tributuaries? Have you got a degree in dredging and widening that we don't know about? Or are an ecological expert? Are you an authority on inland waterways?There is an inland river port in Onitsha where I have have seen smaller vessels discharge goods. There is even another waterway from Ebonyi that empties into Ocean. All you did was read unsubstantiated reports and came to talk nonsense. You probably don't even know that under international law, no independent country can be with access can be denied the means to bring good and services. Look, countries like Austria and Switzerland are landlocked but are individually richer than Nigeria. It's all about human development not sea port. The Okirikas, Ijaws, Ibibios and all of southern Nigeria want resource control. but they are starting to understand that they will never get it in Nigeria. It's impossible. Anyone in doubt about this should recall what happend at the last national conference. When the issue of resources control came up, the North were up in arms. The North even wanted the 13% derivation reduced. The North that resource control by the south will greatly reduce their federal government subventions and they will never agree to it. If the issue of resource control ever makes it to the national assembly, you can be sure that the North will vote it off with their numerical strenght. Anyone hoping for resource control in Nigeria is wasting their time.

As I said before, no amount of Biafran investments outside Biafra in Nigeria is worth our sovereignty and freedom. It will be up to the Ibetos, Athur Ezes to know the next line of action after Biafra is achieved. If Nigeria should sieze their assets or deny them control of it, then maybe it is the eyeopener they need that Nigerians were never their friends in the first place.

To say that the SS does not qualify for referendum is the myopic conclusion of someone looking for oil money. What is the SS? A geographical expression not even recognised in the contitution? You are trying to say the Ijaw nation,the Oron nation, the Ogoni nation have no right to self determination? Don't be daft. They have the right to secede and they have the right to decide where they are going. As I said earlier, any of the minorities that are not comfortable with Biafra have our best wishes. Another thing, when you talk about Igbos, do not reduce us to 5 states. There are many indigenous Igbos who are proud of their Igboness in Delta state and Rivers and all of them are going with us. When it comes to Ikwere people, some say they are Igbo some say they are not. Remarkably, the Ikwere Man is the only person who thinks he is not Igbo while everyone else like the Okrikas,the Ogonis, Ijaws etc consider the pure unadulterated Igbos. Even a Yoruba man would not know the difference between me as an Anambra man and an Ikwere man. Unless and Ikwere man actually says he is Ikwere, everyone will think he is Igbo because his language is Igbo and his surname is Igbo too. The important thing here is not what the Ikwere man thinks he is, what is important is this. Faced with the choice of remaining in Nigeria and seeking a new beginning in Biafra with their Igbo brethren, which would the Ikwere choose? What brings the Ikwere Man together with the Hausa man or the Yoruba man? I have no doubt what the Ikwere man would choose. Which is the lesser of the two evils? Ikwere will not leave their oil rich ancestral land to join Igbos but prefare to remain in Nigeria and share that Oil with Igbos,Yorubas, Hausas and everyone else? Don't make me laugh

Your aguement to keep your fraud of a nation together is completely baseless. Biafra is coming and there nothing anyone can do about it

jpphilips:
lol, You have such Eldorado in the offing yet the best your think tank could offer was a fraudulent radio broadcast, how about getting a signed MOU with all the traditional heads in Niger delta, with all these terms stated in black and white?

You are only f00ling around, in 1967, they did not support you, nothing has changed now, smell the coffee.
Cross Abia state into Ph and the battle of Ph will replay again.
If you want Biafra so desperately, declare it in your village and the other 5 SE states cross SS and die!!

You guys gathered Igbos in Ph and elsewhere to confuse people that SS support your madness, a trial will convince you, s!lly people.

ItsMeAboki:
^^^^^Typical Odechukwu, PhD without intelligence, educated illiterate; it is obvious you had never come across Decree no. 34 of 1966 otherwise you would known that it was promulgated to effectively dismantle the existing federal structure by taking away the semi autonomous powers of the regions - yes he may not have physically dissolved the regions per say but decree 34 functionally did so.

If in doubt kindly refer to Wikipedia Ironsi's 194 days in office - an edited extract of which I have taken the trouble to paste below for easy reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Aguiyi-Ironsi

Though Ironsi tried to dispel this notion by courting the aggrieved ethnic groups through political appointments and patronage, his failure to punish the coup plotters and the promulgation of the now infamous "Decree No. 34"—which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary one— crystallized this conspiracy theory.[11]........

.... He also as per the proposals of a single man committee[13] passed the controversial Unification Decree No. 34 aimed to unify Nigeria into a unitary state. This decree effectively gave preferential treatment to the Igbo in Unified State were the Regions no longer had any sort of autonomy from the Federal Government.[i][/i]

Unfortunately, no; Igbos are by no means respected abroad, having one or two who may have aspired and done well for themselves does not automatically equate to Igbos earning respect in the diaspora.
Quite on the contrary, Igbos only attract notoriety for the various crimes they are known for, to the extent that police in some countries in Asia have developed specific profiling to now single them out from the rest of Nigerians.

The only kind of respect you guys get is prison welcoming with standard issue of steel bracelets (handcuffs) and clean uniform in preparation for a short journey through death prior to execution.

pazienza:
Another fact that you misplaced is that Niger delta never presented 100% resource control, it was an activist on the radio just like Nnamdi Kanu that mentioned it, at the time they submitted a proposal for the conference, they proposed 50%, even at that, the Nigerian side had a superior argument, The Nigerian side argued that if that should happen, they will cease to benefit 13% from offshore oil, NDDC and Ministry of Niger delta will cease to be funded from the National budget & if they want to have total control of all the oil fields, they will be ready to pay exploratory cost beyond 2004 (when we signed the PSC) and Operating tax in arrears post 2004 till whenever.
They quickly reverted to the 13% status quo.


The Nigerian oil sector wasn't developed by funds realized from groundnut or Cocoa, it was the oil companies who bore the initial cost of exploration and exploitation, took their gain and paid the central govt their own token.

It was from that token still generated from crude oil that the FG ran the govt and still 're invested in further exploration.

In other words, the oil industry is a self sustaining one, the money Nigeria can claim to have invested there, came directly from there too. With or without Arewa-Oduanistans, the oil industry will thrive , the fund you claim to have invested in the sector , you got it from the sector.

pazienza:
So, Gowon is bound by Ironsi decree? Lol! These people need brain surgery!

Ironsi decree was bad for Nigeria, yet when Ironsi died, Gowon and North with the power to change the decree like they changed everything else he( Ironsi) did decided to uphold it.
And it's Ironsi fault that they upheld it. Irons spirit held them by the jugular to uphold the decree

pazienza:
Lol! You probably thought you were dealing with your Ogbomosho beer parlour illiterate friends.

The money Nigeria used to invest in the oil industry in 1973 to buy 35 percentage share in the oil companies, where was it gotten from?

From the money realized from the oil in your Ewedu soup?

pazienza:
It may equally interest you to note that Jonathan a son of the soil whose land is floating on oil and gas in literal terms smuggled in 10% community funds into the PIB hoping that the Niger delta will get 23% in cumulative sum, these are the cards the Nigerian side already have on the table, can you tell me exactly what Biafra is proposing? outside claiming all Niger delta areas as Biafra land and intimidating the SS to accept their terms over a fraudulent radio broadcast, give me a break!!


Biafra is proposing a modern state run on total resource control, where the units contribute to the centre, and not the centre cornering the resources of the units and turning it to bonanza for all.

Biafra is proposing a nation built on equity, shared culture, religion, language, and understanding built over centuries of co existence.

Biafra is promising everything Nigeria can never afford.

pazienza:
You are too dull. Ironsi was murdered for his attempt at entrenching unitary system of government in the system. He only just about unified the civil service before he was murdered by those opposed to his unitary plans.

Is it not stupid to suggest that the reason why the same people that killed Ironsi for attempting to implement unitary system , went on to not only implement the system but bastardized it and created dysfunctional units called states was because Ironsi attempted to promote the unitary system?
Isn't this your argument self defeating.

You really need your head examined.

ItsMeAboki:
Dindirin, since you still cannot comprehend; perhaps a more pictorial version may suffice for olodos like you - meanwhile, pls tell me who introduced Decrees nos 5 and 34 of 1966, what was their purpose and what did they achieve?
N.B. do not evade this question.

pazienza:
Is it not silly to suggest that the reason why the same people that killed Ironsi for attempting to implement unitary system , went on to not only implement the system but bastardized it and created dysfunctional units called states was because Ironsi attempted to promote the unitary system?
Isn't this your argument self defeating.

You really need your head examined.

ItsMeAboki:
^^^^^Typical Igbo, can't confront the truth when cornered with facts, switching into denial mode by shifting the goal post , Igbos ever trying to re-write history in order to white wash their tarnished past.

My friend, just stick to the argument instead of running around like a headless chicken (without focus and direction): Did Ironsi not abolished the regions and replaced them with the unitary system (that had since evolved till today) by decree no. 34 of 1966? Yes or No; if not then who did?

For the benefit of those following this argument, pls click onto the link below, where you will find a copy of both Ironsi's speech to this end and the content of the said decree 34, pls read and judge for yourselves.

http://segundawodu.com/irons2.htm