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ValerianSteel:
Oh Jonny you good,very good.

Where are our Muslim brothers?I await their response.

The biase mods of this forum will not think about getting this out to the view of the world.

Rilwayne001:
So you believe donkey really talked as according to the bible?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3007809_balaamandtalkingdonkey_jpegc9e7f5a772547edfbaf9bc643d5f1d90

So you believe as according to Judges 9:8 trees went out to
anoint a king?

So you believe Elijah was flown to heaven by a chariot of fire and horses of fire ?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3007822_elijafirychariot_jpeg9db9f20384914022d3d236b3b83c9a6a

In John’s Revelation dream, which is conveyed to be an imminent and realistic future event, he sees crown-wearing locusts with faces of men, hair of women, teeth of lions,tails of scorpions, and wings sounding like chariots. These locusts also adorn iron breastplates in preparation for battle (9:7-10). Draw your own conclusions.

I assume you've not been reading your bible lately.

Perhaps those anonymous authors of the bible were high on pawpaw leaf..

Weah96:
You funny sha. Those locusts should have been sufficient to warrant an investigation into the author's choice of meal before he slept off. Locusts that look like Michael Jackson in the Thriller video.

Well, you have a point. My grandmother before her death once told me that eating heavy food before going to bed usually result to one have series of bad dream.. And forreal when I was very small, each time I eat pounded yam before going to bed, it is either I am in the ring fighting Kung fu with Jet li or I am flying in the sky like those guys did in 'shaolin soccer'

dalaman:
. Can you imagine a christian trying to mock a muslim for believing that Mohammed rode on a flying horse when their own bible has talking donkeys, flying chariots, locust with faces of men adorned with iron breastplates and other fictitious nonsense. delusion at its finest.

Rilwayne001:
Don't mind the fool.. The bible is the greatest bullshit I have read.

Rilwayne001:
So you believe donkey really talked as according to the bible?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3007809_balaamandtalkingdonkey_jpegc9e7f5a772547edfbaf9bc643d5f1d90

So you believe as according to Judges 9:8 trees went out to
anoint a king?

So you believe Elijah was flown to heaven by a chariot of fire and horses of fire ?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3007822_elijafirychariot_jpeg9db9f20384914022d3d236b3b83c9a6a

In John’s Revelation dream, which is conveyed to be an imminent and realistic future event, he sees crown-wearing locusts with faces of men, hair of women, teeth of lions,tails of scorpions, and wings sounding like chariots. These locusts also adorn iron breastplates in preparation for battle (9:7-10). Draw your own conclusions.

I assume you've not been reading your bible lately.

Perhaps those anonymous authors of the bible were high on pawpaw leaf..

mahdino:
The word "Muhammad" in the Bible (in Original Hebrew)

The name "Muhammad" is written in the Bible in the original Hebrew language.

In the 5th chapter of the Shir haShirim ( שיר השירים ), which is one of the five megilot or Sacred Scrolls that are part of the Hebrew Bible or for short the "Song of Solomon" (also called "Song of Songs". That chapter is giving a prophecy about an individual to come, a mystery man.

Song of Songs 5:15 compares this prophetic mystery man to the land of "Lebanon" which is the land of the Arabs. This implies that the mystery man would be an Arab.

Verse 15 of the NIV Bible says: “His appearance is like Lebanon", so this is an Arabic gentleman (or Arab looking).

Verse 11 says: "his head is as the most fine gold, his locks are
wavy, and black as a raven". Verse 10 describes this man as being "radiant and ruddy" which means he was slightly light-skinned with a rosy color. This physical description matches exactly with the authentic Islamic sources.
Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 747, says Muhammad was slightly light skinned, with a rosy color (and has the same hair as is mentioned in verse 11)

Song of Songs 5:10 says: "My beloved is white and ruddy, pre-eminent above ten thousand." This is a prophecy of Prophet Muhammad as he conquered Mecca. It is a well known historically documented fact that in the year 630 CE Muhammad entered Mecca as the leader of an army of "ten thousand men".

In reading the English translation of Song of Songs 5:16 it finishes the description by saying: "He is altogether lovely" but what most people don't know is that the name of that man was given in the original megilot. Here is the name written in ancient Hebrew as it appears in verse sixteen: מחמד . It is read as : "Mahammad".

Hebrew: חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם.

English: His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is ALTOGETHER LOVELY. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with
the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamadd-im”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet, just as in the word Eloh-im.

According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary, it is correctly pronounced as "Mahammad".

If you don't believe me, go to these translator links, paste the name מחמד and then translate it into English. You will see that מחמד is translated as "Muhammad".


http://www.freetranslation.com/


http://worldlingo.com/en/products_servi … lator.html

You can also see and listen to the Song of Songs in its original form, in Hebrew where Muhammad is mentioned by name in the below link (please notice the "im" in Hebrew is a plural of respect):


http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm


Watch the whole video here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3sZfPwv1g

Rilwayne001:
Don't mind the fool.. The bible is the greatest bullshit I have read.

johnydon22:


Our muslim brothers, Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse, if yes can you provide us independent empirical substantiation to back up your claim...??

parisbookaddict:
Here is the difference between the Christian and muslim.. the Christian is truthful and the muslim is fond of lies, al taqiyya as well as runs away from questions about the paedophile prophet mohammed.


No I Havent come across the talking donkey verse..can u provide me with the passage...

Elijah and the Chariots of fire. interesting isnt it... the bible and its allegories and hyperbolic language always gets lost on u muslims and atheists.....Elijah was a real prophet and apparently the mode of transportation to heaven for him was stellar..at least it wasnt a flying donkey unicon rabbit eared creature.

And yes u exaggerated johns dreams apparently...but u missed the point..they are DREAMS u ignorant muslim....

Okay waiting for the talking donkey verse...

Rilwayne001:
Don't mind the fool.. The bible is the greatest bullshit I have read.

Shollyps:
numbers chapter 22 vs 22-30
..so that you will understand it very well

kevoh:
You people better stick to the main subject of the thread as quoted above, before someone stylishly derails the topic of the thread and turns it into a Bible vs Quran thread.

parisbookaddict:
Here is the difference between the Christian and muslim.. the Christian is truthful and the muslim is fond of lies, al taqiyya as well as runs away from questions about the paedophile prophet mohammed.

No I Havent come across the talking donkey verse..can u provide me with the passage...

Elijah and the Chariots of fire. interesting isnt it... the bible and its allegories and hyperbolic language always gets lost on u muslims and atheists.....

And yes u exaggerated johns dreams apparently...but u missed the point..they are DREAMS u ignorant muslim....

Okay waiting for the talking donkey verse...

parisbookaddict:
Says the devout muslim whose prophet asks muslims to refer to the torah and injeel for truth..

johnydon22:
[s]Both the Quran and the bible are derived from the same jewish background and theme.. Both hoards many jewish myths and legends and both are equally full of bullshiiiit..

Its called the desert triology..

Part1 is the jewish scriptures Tenarks ...part 2 is the bible and 3 is the Quran. . . . All are same thing and their bullshiits are directly proportional to each other...[/s]

Rilwayne001:
Ad hominem as usual, you already know I won't tow this path with you.

[b] Yet you come here and act like a bible scholar... Only if the gullible idiotards following you will see that you are just a featherheaded nitwit that know very little about the faith you carry about.

There is no point educating you on the talking donkey of the bible, google is always there for you to see. Simply type 'talking donkey' on google and it will show you the bullshit in the bible.

But before then, do you know the talking serpent of the bible or you don't know that.one too? [/b]

Escape route. Oya explain to us the allegory of this myth.

Ignorant idiot, why dont you pick up ur bible and read

parisbookaddict:
Hilarious. I only called u ignorant because u are. It Isn't ad hominem. STop looking for an excuse. U on the other hand started with a tu touque fallacies to the questions I asked.

Thanks, it means a lot coming from an Islamist such as urself.

I have never claimed to be a bible scholar. I have mentioned it to u and ur like before. Show me where I have claimed it and I will deactivate my account immediately.

Who said you are a bible scholar? I dey craze I think you need to take a chill pill and re read my post to decipher what I wrote. I said you act as if you were a bible scholar, when actually you know nothing concerning the bible hence the reason why the talking donkey myth is alien to you. Don't forget you once claimed to be using 3 different translation of the bible, yet you've never for once sit down to read it on your own. I believe that day will come, when you have the chutzpah to read the bible on your own, that day, you would throw it away because of the bullshit you'll find therein.

I learn every day unlike u muslims who think the quran is the only book what learning from.

Speaking of gullible, I guess u Mr muslim are not gullible since u believe a paedophile lair bigot misogynist flying donkey riding rapist is a prophet..

I think an atheist here posted the verse already. I just read it, it was a bit funny really. Especially since it is clearly not allegorical. Dude, this talking donkey has really shaken my faith about the wonderful, beautiful teachings of Our lord Jesus Christ..not.

I do. Its clear that its allegorical for how disobedience and sin entered the world. Islam has its own creation myth borrowed from apocryphal books.

Like I said earlier it isn't allegorical. I will study it more and create a topic addressing it.

Ogbeni, check the post you quoted, I asked you to explain the allegory of the chariot of fire that carried Elijah to Yahweh, you claimed it is an allegory, didn't you? Now explain.

More insults. From the devout muslim.
Anyway I do, and u Mr muslim. Have u read the hatefully biogot misogynist unholy paedophile authored quran today

parisbookaddict:
Here is the difference between the Christian and muslim.. the Christian is truthful and the muslim is fond of lies, al taqiyya as well as runs away from questions about the paedophile prophet mohammed.


No I Havent come across the talking donkey verse..can u provide me with the passage...

Elijah and the Chariots of fire. interesting isnt it... the bible and its allegories and hyperbolic language always gets lost on u muslims and atheists.....Elijah was a real prophet and apparently the mode of transportation to heaven for him was stellar..at least it wasnt a flying donkey unicon rabbit eared creature.

And yes u exaggerated johns dreams apparently...but u missed the point..they are DREAMS u ignorant muslim....

Okay waiting for the talking donkey verse...

parisbookaddict:
Hilarious. I only called u ignorant because u are. It Isn't ad hominem. STop looking for an excuse.
U on the other hand started with a tu touque fallacies to the questions I asked.



Thanks, it means a lot coming from an Islamist such as urself.
I have never claimed to be a bible scholar. I have mentioned it to u and ur like before. Show me where I have claimed it and I will deactivate my account immediately. I learn every day unlike u muslims who think the quran is the only book what learning from.

Speaking of gullible, I guess u Mr muslim are not gullible since u believe a paedophile lair bigot misogynist flying donkey riding rapist is a prophet..



I think an atheist here posted the verse already. I just read it, it was a bit funny really. Especially since it is clearly not allegorical. Dude, this talking donkey has really shaken my faith about the wonderful, beautiful teachings of Our lord Jesus Christ..not.





I do. Its clear that its allegorical for how disobedience and sin entered the world. Islam has its own creation myth borrowed from apocryphal books.




Like I said earlier it isn't allegorical. I will study it more and create a topic addressing it.




More insults. From the devout muslim.
Anyway I do, and u Mr muslim. Have u read the hatefully biogot misogynist unholy paedophile authored quran today

Rilwayne001:
Tu touque fallacy you call it, wow! so you don't believe in the similar alleged fallacy in your bible?
Nahh! it means nothing to me. I have met intelligent christians which you are not even close to, only that those gullible ones following on here are not aware that you know next to nothing.
Who said you are a bible scholar? I dey craze I think you need to take a chill pill and re read my post to decipher what I wrote. I said you act as if you were a bible scholar, when actually you know nothing concerning the bible hence the reason why the talking donkey myth is alien to you. Don't forget you once claimed to be using 3 different translation of the bible, yet you've never for once sit down to read it on your own. I believe that day will come, when you have the chutzpah to read the bible on your own, that day, you would throw it away because of the bullshit you'll find therein.
Kindly list atleast five other books you read to learn from.
Nb: I am asking you for books written by your fellow christians/pastors.
Pray tell, are you saying i am gullible simply because I believed he rode a flying donkey ?
It hasnt shaken your faith, if its true, you would pick your bible and read on your own to further see the shenanigans in it instead of searching the internet to defend the talking donkey. I will be waiting for your thread anyway.
If you claim it to be an allegory, then the onus is on you to relay it to us in a lay man language. Kindly explain what is meant in the story
Ogbeni, check the post you quoted, I asked you to explain the allegory of the chariot of fire that carried Elijah to Yahweh, you claimed it is an allegory, didn't you? Now explain.
The Quran is devoid of all that you've written above.

yazach:
You don't know the bible jare!!! Ordinary talking donkey in the bible

End of discussion.

Anas09:
Now address the OP.

A Muslim would laugh at anyone who asserts Perseus rode a flying horse but Muhammed rode one? then it is true .. "God is great" …lol.. ..

Imagine the absurdity in such belief. . . If one honestly believe someone rode a flying horse then why cant that person believe Perseus did or the dishonesty in belief stipulates one should cherry pick which myth to believe?

That's why i always say: "If something needs to be believed against reason by faith then there is no reason to believe it at all..."

Our muslim brothers, Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse, if yes can you provide us independent empirical substantiation to back up your claim...??

SirWere:
How come the pictoral depictions of God (the christian one) looks remarkably like Zeus Let's start from there

johnydon22:
[b]
Many of us here are very familiar with flying animals in antiquity or animals depicted to possess wings like birds.

The most popular of these stories is the story of Pegasus the flying Horse of Perseus son of the God Zeus in classical Greek antiquity.

we have all seen the movie depictions and many of us here won't deny having fantasized about riding such animal that has nothing to show that is not anymore than mere mythological fictional work of antiquity.

https://www.drawingsomeone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Pegasus-Drawing-6-540x380.jpg

We also have the winged bulls of Babylonian mythology and then remarkably one so near is the tale of Muhammed (Founder of Islam) riding similar animal.

I am intrigued at this claim of Muhammed riding something similar to a flying horse named Buraq.


Then a white animal which was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me. ... The animal's step (was so wide that it) reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal's sight.

—  Muhammad al-Bukhari , Sahih al-Bukhari


Then he [Gabriel] brought the Buraq, handsome-faced and bridled, a tall, white beast, bigger than the donkey but smaller than the mule. He could place his hooves at the farthest boundary of his gaze. He had long ears. Whenever he faced a mountain his hind legs would extend, and whenever he went downhill his front legs
would extend. He had two wings on his thighs which lent strength to his legs.

He bucked when Muhammad came to mount him. The angel Jibril (Gabriel ) put his hand on his mane and said: "Are you not ashamed, O Buraq? By Allah , no-one has ridden you in all creation more dear to Allah than he is." Hearing this he was so ashamed that he sweated until he became soaked, and he stood still so that the Prophet mounted him


According to these narratives God through Gabriel gave Muhammed one of his flying horse-like animals to ride to Jerusalem. . And muhammed was the ever first to ride such.

I find it intriguing that the classical story of Perseus which predates muhammed story by thousands of years. God (zeus) also gave Perseus a flying horse named Pegasus and Perseus became the only person to have ridden such.

These two stories quite similar in their claim of flying horse-like animals being ridden, what fascinates me is that people actually believe Muhammed really rode such an animal even though such has never been substantiated to be anymore than fictious mythical construct.

It reveals the dishonesty in Faith... Someone could believe such unsubstantiated outrageous assertion by faith against all reason.

A Muslim would laugh at anyone who asserts Perseus rode a flying horse but Muhammed rode one? then it is true .. "God is great" …lol.. ..

Imagine the absurdity in such belief. . . If one honestly believe someone rode a flying horse then why cant that person believe Perseus did or the dishonesty in belief stipulates one should cherry pick which myth to believe?

That's why i always say: "If something needs to be believed against reason by faith then there is no reason to believe it at all..."

Our muslim brothers, Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse, if yes can you provide us independent empirical substantiation to back up your claim...??[/b]

Annunaki:
There are absolutely no pictorial depictions of God in Christianity.