My colleagues in the office are ardent followers of Nairaland and we are unapologetic supporters of PDP and I've been a guest on NL for years and I'm an ardent follower of PDP supporters here with their antics to stay relevant in a oppressive and stiff environment which the APC supporters control. I salute them for their courage to stay up and play opposition and stand to be counted for strengthening democracy and giving the man outside the hope that the country will not fall into the tyrannyical and destructive CHANGE the APC has brought to our polity.
The PDP today on NL is enmeshed in internal crises which has brought wedge in their unity and allowed APC to hold sway while they knock themselves out bcause of some issues which are supposed to be on the back burner.

THE BIAFRA APOLOGIST: The most widely trended news on social media today is Biafra and its quest for self determination. These group of people have muscled our attention to their struggle which made a lot of PDP supporters who are mostly of SS/SE extraction to be at daggers drawn. I will advise them to sheath their swords and pursue their real enemy which Is every lies APC stands for, there should be a vocal support for fiscal federalism and for the zealous biafra agitators they should channel their demand to the right source which is the UN. Let's come together and be the PDP which made the APC criers to hide their tails when we counter their CHANGE lies with Fact.


Tonyebarcanista: I've been a keen follower of your thread right from when you were in APC camp and then defected to PDP, you are a good writer but you ve fallen of from that pedestal with your dabble into murky waters. I felt like giving you a knock on your head when I saw your thread about Biafra. There is a reason while Seun created Ethnic and Sectarian section for some peeps who dwell on bigotry and ethnic supremacy. You couldn't even dodge a glaring banana peel because of your ego or arrogance. Your actions created disarray in PDP camp which made your die hard fans to distance themselves from you and allowed APC to take over the topics affecting the nation and muscle opinion to suit their scam.
I will advise you to steer clear of all these and concentrate on the real issues or instead the other PDP supporters should voice out and call you to order.


I would be happy if energy should be channeled into unearthing the bias judiciary which has been giving APC victories in tribunals whiLe cancelling PDP elections. This is a matter of importance and I will implore these Nairaland PDP navigators like Datolee, ochejoseph, Firefire, temitemi, chukwudi44 Isrealiairforce, mizmycoli, sincere9gerian, dearpreye, ecoterrors, severusnape, Hzrf, anonimi, tomakint, francizy, altwireless, whynotthetruth, mogidi, biafraqueen and other supporters who have always held the fort when it seems like PDP would be muscled out.

Rivers and Akwa Ibom judicial process should be keenly observed because of the antics of APC to steal their mandate through the back door.

This is a clarion call to all PDP faithfuls

Long live PDP

Long Live Nigeria


DrownedFish

There should be a sense of decorum and there should be less insults but more substance.


*the voice of truth is the voice of GOD

You are indeed drowned.

War Start... Poo poo poo

Click like if u knw what I mean

It's only a reflection of what's happening in the real world. Ask Edwin Clark.

Rawani:
It's only a reflection of what's happening in the real world. Ask Edwin Clark.

PDP is coming back stronger and will expose APC for their lies

What lies? Is that the epitaph for your tombstone? Spare us the tribute to your dead, corrupt and impunity loving party. Nigerians are done with your People Deceiving Party.

DrownedFish:
PDP is coming back stronger and will expose APC for their lies

@OP: I neither opposed Biafran agitators nor malign any group. Your remark about me is absolutely incorrect and unfair.

@Topic: You have to appreciate the fact that we are from a place irrespective of party. If losing some friends and getting knocks will be the price to pay for addressing a misconception, that I don't mind. However, it will be proper if we separate partisanship and ethnic interests. These two are distinct.

Let me state that I am unhappy with the state of PDP on this forum. I hope we all let differences be and reposition the party here. PDP Shall rise again!

OP,

I would be happy if energy should be channeled into unearthing the bias judiciary which has been giving APC victories in tribunals whiLe cancelling PDP elections.

Abeg, when you "unearth" the judiciary, what will happen

On a faceless toothless bulldog forum!

Even the core PDP NEC know they can do nothing but complain & then rest!!

Wondering who created this moniker sef?? Don't think its ecoterrors though.

DOA

the deed has been done

I wonder why all these bigots and e-land defenders won't leave politics section and go to ethnic section to wallow in their self illusion

.Op leave @tonyebarcanista alone.Their has to be a country before u play politics. Their has to be a region,people to play politics with. The pdp u are killing urself over has zoned to the north again. Even when its glaring ss is its base. For any party to be leading(even apga) it has to please the north. Ask urself is it that the north care abt nigeria unity geniunly, no its just the oil that makes them say one nigeria. What makes the north strong is the fact they put their REGION AND TRIBE first b4 politics. Evidence of many pdp northerners collecting money frm gej and voting pmb. We in the south are too obsessed with politics instead of our region first. Northerners would drop politics and any region that helps it in political power, and put their region first and fight against even that friend to retain or conquer land like they did to their political friends in kwara,kogi etc. That doesnt stop the political friendship, but its land is its land no seceeding. SE AND SS are not the same, its not like the north were even the north central all have basic root. South east is the one killing itself to be in unity with ss. It can never get ss land to join its mirage. If by venture they get their anioma + other immigrants its ok 4 them. But no seceeding of ss lands. Till date u knw how bitter the cross rivers are for the action the fg did to seceed just a land to bakassi just 4 peace sake. I am pro apc but regionality must come first. The north is doing it and we keep begging them to rule, in whatever disguise of party affilation

As for me, am a wailer and I oppose any government in power..

RIP, PDP.

TonyeBarcanista:
@OP: I neither opposed Biafran agitators nor malign any group. Your remark about me is absolutely incorrect and unfair.

@Topic: You have to appreciate the fact that we are from a place irrespective of party. If losing some friends and getting knocks will be the price to pay for addressing a misconception, that I don't mind. However, it will be proper if we separate partisanship and ethnic interests. These two are distinct.

Let me state that I am unhappy with the state of PDP on this forum. I hope we all let differences be and reposition the party here. PDP Shall rise again!

There are issues that are too hot to be discussed by someone like you whose fan base are largely drawn from the so called agitators. Stay away from ethnic politics because PDP stands for fiscal federalism and that's what we should be discussing.
Don't allow your person to break the unity of this PDP members here, stay away from all these please.

modath:


OP,



Abeg, when you "unearth" the judiciary, what will happen? On a faceless toothless bulldog forum!

Even the core pdp nec know they can do nothing but complain & then rest!!

Wondering who created this moniker sef?? Don't think its ecoterrors though.

The social media is akin to the mainstream media which has been a tool for public opinion and acting as the last bastion for the oppressed.

There is a grand plan by APC to make Nigeria a one party state but Insha Allah it ll never happen.

What the op is even counterproductive to what he wants to achieve. Pdp is not an online political party,by bringing such a topic like this up it will only show or portray pdp as a dying party gasping for breath. What you should be doing is discussing way by which to revitalize and reenegize pdp strong online presence and find ways of making the party understand the importance of this too.

@ Op inasmuch as I'll love pdp to see rise but technically am telling you that as far as nairaland is concerned pdp is really dying because the long rope that ties it together in unity irrespective of religion and tribe has been broken no thanks to some people that brought discord in the camp all in the name of non-existing e-land quarrel that doesn't even reflect in real life thereby sabotaging, killing and betraying pdp online supporters through some words like
Igbos supported Gej for personal interest this came as a shock to most of us who gave little or no relevance to all these ethnic stuff because 95% of us including me are in PDP today because of Gej as of 2009 downwards no one gave a fork about pdp i even voted a gubernatorial candidate under apc (Chris Ngige) in 2011 though right now am grateful he lost not because he's a bad person but because apc can corrupt good people e. g Rochas, Amaechi, etc.

but today just because of some irrelevant ethnic stuff that don't even pass nairaland some people decided to ruin pdp online. I associate with people in SS region including Edo, Rivers, Akwa ibom, Delta (Ugheli) my trusted biz partner is even a Yoruba yet irrespective of tribe and political affiliation we still cooperate with each other.


@Op it will be very difficult to rebuild again online which was the major factor that brought apc to power because people like me no longer have the zeal again. I will just oppose apc but on a neutral ground because am thinking of leaving partisan politics soon.


lesson to future political youth online/offline leader activists : always try to be neutral in a sensitive issues that may bring discord in the camp.

DeviIhimself:
DOA

the deed has been done

I wonder why all these bigots and e-land defenders won't leave politics section and go to ethnic section to wallow in their self illusion

I think I love the part where you called them E-land defenders. There is a reason why Seun created ethnic and sectarian section for them. Let's stand and fight under the umbrella.

TonyeBarcanista:
@OP: I neither opposed Biafran agitators nor malign any group. Your remark about me is absolutely incorrect and unfair.

@Topic: You have to appreciate the fact that we are from a place irrespective of party. If losing some friends and getting knocks will be the price to pay for addressing a misconception, that I don't mind. However, it will be proper if we separate partisanship and ethnic interests. These two are distinct.

Let me state that I am unhappy with the state of PDP on this forum. I hope we all let differences be and reposition the party here. PDP Shall rise again!

I read one of your follow-up piece which you sandwiched a notable paragraph directed at my supposedly advice to you for which I further dissected and concluded that you weren't ready to learn from people who in their lifetime made one major costly mistake that cost them either their career, a fortune or political capital, rather you want to learn by falling victim to the same ordeal and trap.

I don't force people to take my advice but I know for sure that my advices worth a fortune and are 90% reliable hence dependable.

I have graduated from online debates on issues of National importance, the need to promote the course of the common man on Nigerian streets and promoting institutionalized democracy to teaching willing successors on the dos and don'ts of this adventure.

I am now a political consultant and will be willing to see you overcome these trial times but this time you will pay for the services unless you promise to be a godson.

Remember, when in a hole, stop digging.

DrownedFish:
There are issues that are too hot to be discussed by someone like you whose fan base are largely drawn from the so called agitators. Stay away from ethnic politics because PDP stands for fiscal federalism and that's what we should be discussing.
Don't allow your person to break the unity of this PDP members here, stay away from all these please.

It is always proper that we try to understand each other.

I am not an ethnic champion nor ethnic or regional supremacist. I look at things from the standpoint of truth without trying to falsely massage any ego nor muscling people's ego. Fairness to all to me is a recipe for collective unity. I always state that I'm not in opposition to the struggle or ANY group though I may not be in sync with their moduc operandi.

The interest of PDP should be about winning elections and providing good governance to all irrespective of ethnic and religious standing. Members/Supporters of PDP like any other party are also sons/daughters of various ethnic groups. Being an emerging PDP leader, you should also appreciate that I also have the responsibility to speak on certain issues that affects my tribe, region and of course my country(Nigeria). The interests of these groups is should be defined, promoted and defended.

For instance, while I'm an opponent of the ruling party, I am also careful to draw a line between opposition to the government in power and interest of the State(Country). That means my opposition should reflect the interests of the State and not be aginst it. As a South South son, my interest for the region(which is chiefly restructuring of the system) must also not be sacrificed. Same goes with the legitimate interest of my Ijaw tribe. That doesn't make one an ethnic champion nor hater of others. As one that desires good society, I respect and uphold the legitimate interests of neighbours etal.

Those that couldn't draw these distinctions are the main problem to the society and themselves. This group lacks understanding and wisdom. The Bible says that in all things get Wisdom and understanding.

sandraokosun1:
.Op leave @tonyebarcanista alone.Their has to be a country before u play politics. Their has to be a region,people to play politics with. The pdp u are killing urself over has zoned to the north again. Even when its glaring ss is its base. For any party to be leading(even apga) it has to please the north. Ask urself is it that the north care abt nigeria unity geniunly, no its just the oil that makes them say one nigeria. What makes the north strong is the fact they put their REGION AND TRIBE first b4 politics. Evidence of many pdp northerners collecting money frm gej and voting pmb. We in the south are too obsessed with politics instead of our region first. Northerners would drop politics and any region that helps it in political power, and put their region first and fight against even that friend to retain or conquer land like they did to their political friends in kwara,kogi etc. That doesnt stop the political friendship, but its land is its land no seceeding. SE AND SS are not the same, its not like the north were even the north central all have basic root. South east is the one killing itself to be in unity with ss. It can never get ss land to join its mirage. If by venture they get their anioma + other immigrants its ok 4 them. But no seceeding of ss lands. Till date u knw how bitter the cross rivers are for the action the fg did to seceed just a land to bakassi just 4 peace sake. I am pro apc but regionality must come first. The north is doing it and we keep begging them to rule, in whatever disguise of party affilation

You ve never stood for PDP before so I don't see any reason why I should dignify you a better response. Go down to Ethnic section where you can have a good orgasm doing E-land defending. Thanks but No Thanks for your post.

wait ooo. It seems there are things which aren't clear oooo. What is this talk about biagra ,ethnic or tribal comments ? Pls on which thread did all this drama take place?

DrownedFish:
I think I love the part where you called them E-land defenders. There is a reason why Seun created ethnic and sectarian section for them. Let's stand and fight under the umbrella.

its real no e to it. Are these nt human beigns commenting, are their not a few miscrant protesting, this is the mindset of ths people(biafrauds)that they own ph, and most ss lands. How did it happen that the igbo mindset was lagos is no man land and behaved so, the oba /fashola put it to them. Was all that e too

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sandraokosun1:
its real no e to it. Are these nt human beigns commenting, are their not a few miscrant protesting, this is the mindset of ths people(biafrauds)that they own ph, and most ss lands. How did it happen that the igbo mindset was lagos is no man land and behaved so, the oba /fashola put it to them. Was all that e too

[/s] this is non relevant to the issue been discussed here. Which is about pdp moving forward

TonyeBarcanista:

It is always proper that we try to understand each other.

I am not an ethnic champion nor ethnic or regional supremacist. I look at things from the standpoint of truth without trying to falsely massage any ego nor muscling people's ego. Fairness to all to me is a recipe for collective unity. I always state that I'm not in opposition to the struggle or ANY group though I may not be in sync with their moduc operandi.

The interest of PDP should be about winning elections and providing good governance to all irrespective of ethnic and religious standing. Members/Supporters of PDP like any other party are also sons/daughters of various ethnic groups. Being an emerging PDP leader, you should also appreciate that I also have the responsibility to speak on certain issues that affects my tribe, region and of course my country(Nigeria). The interests of these groups is should be defined, promoted and defended.

For instance, while I'm an opponent of the ruling party, I am also careful to draw a line between opposition to the government in power and interest of the State(Country). That means my opposition should reflect the interests of the State and not be aginst it. As a South South son, my interest for the region(which is chiefly restructuring of the system) must also not be sacrificed. Same goes with the legitimate interest of my Ijaw tribe. That doesn't make one an ethnic champion nor hater of others. As one that desires good society, I respect and uphold the legitimate interests of neighbours etal.

Those that couldn't draw these distinctions are the main problem to the society and themselves. This group lacks understanding and wisdom. The Bible says that in all things get Wisdom and understanding.

Grow out of this your My Land, Our Land, Their Land. Drop it and pursue the real issues affecting Nigeria. If you insist on engaging in all these then you should move to E-land section.

DrownedFish:
I think I love the part where you called them E-land defenders. There is a reason why Seun created ethnic and sectarian section for them. Let's stand and fight under the umbrella.

bros every pdp member on nairaland considered him a leader and you know the implications of being a leader and the qualities of being a good leader. the followers gains their moral and courage from the leader and if anything happens to the leader it technically affects the followers.

it's a pity that the ones revered political analyser and writer has degenerated to an ordinary tribal bigot and warlord fit for ethnic section in nairaland. this the plan of some apc bastards most of them was busted spewing hatred on SS (ijaw) and trying to play mind games with the igbos but people like me blasted them because an average igbo man will rather be neutral than vote apc.
ngige lost his senatorial zone to a woman because of his party as in how can you expect a full blooded igbo man to be in the same party with igbo haters like Tinubu, Elrufai, etc it doesn't makes sense.

I felt happy when pdp zoned presidency to the north because with a perfect campaign they'll dislodge apc in 2019 Because practically a Northern candidate will divide northern votes and get undiluted block votes from SE/SS but as it stands now na OYO (on your own) things

note: am not an IPOB member but anything that will bring freedom from so called one Nigeria is welcomed.


I once asked them what's your gain in one Nigeria? as an oil producing community with ravaged land and water you're entitled to at least a monthly pay and an SUV in a sane country

onatisi:
wait ooo. It seems there are things which aren't clear oooo. What is this talk about biagra ,ethnic or tribal comments ? Pls on which thread did all this drama take place?

There has been madness here which has made the aforementioned NL PDP supporters to take a back seat while APC lies reign supreme.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


I read one of your follow-up piece which you sandwiched a notable paragraph directed at my supposedly advice to you for which I further dissected and concluded that you weren't ready to learn from people who in their lifetime made one major costly mistake that cost them either their career, a fortune or political capital, rather you want to learn by failing victim to the same ordeal and trap.

I don't force people to take my advice but I know for sure that my advices worth a fortune and are 90% reliable hence dependable.

I have graduated from online debates on issues of National importance, the need to promote the course of the common man on Nigerian streets and promoting institutionalized democracy to teaching willing successors on the dos and don'ts of this adventure.

I am now a political consultant and will be willing to see you overcome these trial times but this time you will pay for the services unless you promise to be a godson.

Remember, when in a hole, stop digging.

I saw your advice and told you I will not comment further on issues relating to that subject. But somehow, some people kept on dragging me, hence, the follow-up threads. However, it wasn't meant to insult anyone but make clarification. Anyway, that was it and I don't think such subject deserves any further argument(from my end)

It's time to focus on politics for the good of everyone irrespective of ethno-rligious standing. I'm interested in the bold and we can discuss it asap via PM if you don't mind sir!

The one thing I wish never to see among Nigerian youths is the support for constitutional dictatorship which leads to one party State propelled by sycophantic, clannish support for party politics against the derivatives of good governance and accountability.

We need a balance between party support and holding our politicians accountable.

Where there are no counselors and critics, people perish, the government derail and our collective future are bound to be doomed.

onatisi:
wait ooo. It seems there are things which aren't clear oooo. What is this talk about biagra ,ethnic or tribal comments ? Pls on which thread did all this drama take place?

Are you joking or you really are unaware that between sunday & Tuesday, it was total armageddon on NL?

It was a total bloodbath but very funny at the same time...

TonyeBarcanista:
@OP: I neither opposed Biafran agitators nor malign any group. Your remark about me is absolutely incorrect and unfair.

@Topic: You have to appreciate the fact that we are from a place irrespective of party. If losing some friends and getting knocks will be the price to pay for addressing a misconception, that I don't mind. However, it will be proper if we separate partisanship and ethnic interests. These two are distinct.

Let me state that I am unhappy with the state of PDP on this forum. I hope we all let differences be and reposition the party here. PDP Shall rise again!

Lol don't be unhappy with the state of PDP on this forum.. 90% of PDP supporters here used the Biafra Agitation as a means of consolation for the time being after Jonathan lost his election, they became so aggressive here ready to pull down anyone who's against the Biafran dream Myth..

The truth you said about Southsouth knowing their stand on Biafra got them infuriated as usual Bro, even as an igbo dude that I am I don't think what you said was wrong. Did u see Any APC Igbo peeps here attacking you? Nope..

NB: I'm not a fan of APC or PDP

DrownedFish:
There has been madness here which has made the aforementioned NL PDP supporters to take a back seat while APC lies reign supreme.

really!!!! I haven't been commenting much for sometime now. Really a sad case ,but I think what happened on nairaland might just be a reflection of what is happening on ground in pdp