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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 9:25pm On Oct 29, 2015
DictatorZAR:
F@ucktard it goes both ways you f.ool tongue
lol three years. Some relationships don't last that long. I personally know of mine. Hehehe agaugust you dun try. you all should keep the thread going. You brilliant lads have created Africa's largest military discussion thread and you just have to keep it going. But please let's try to add more maturity to it. Let's try to avoid writing about possible battle scenarios between African states, let's try to avoid racist remarks and attacks on people's history and culture. But please continue the personality attacks. Keep them Butthurt coming.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:09pm On Oct 30, 2015
agaugust:
No citation, all your argument goes into thrash bin.

[size=15pt] A-Darter with Brazil's brand/logo ! [/size]

Case Closed kiss....you Southie liar and glory thief grin grin
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A-Darter is proudly SA made product. Denel manufacture it and having Brazil flag does not equate into making conclusions that it is made by Brazil. Gripen jets can be branded with SA flag and equally F7 Jets can be branded with Nigerian flag but will that mean both countries produced those fighters? The answer is a big NO.


A gripen bearing SA flag and as such is made from South Africa according to Agaugust.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:21pm On Oct 30, 2015
agaugust:
[size=15pt] Brazil produced A-Darter missile for South Africa, confirmed 100% [/size]

"Several Brazilian companies are involved in the A-Darter programme, including Mectron, Avibrás and Opto Eletrônica. Mectron makes all Brazil’s missiles (MAA-1/B Piranha air-to-air missile, MAR-1 anti-radar missile and MSS-1.2 anti-armour missile). Avibras is assisting with development of the A-Darter’s rocket motor and Opto Eletrônica is participating in the development of the A-Darter’s seeker head."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20166:a-darter-missile-cooperation-brings-brazilian-minister-to-denel&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107
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A-Darter program existed long before Brazil could even decide to partner it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:38pm On Oct 30, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:41pm On Oct 30, 2015
Grounded: Taiwan’s US-Made Attack Helicopter fleet
The aircraft’s manufacturer Boeing has also dispatched a
special task force to help identify the cause of the technical
difficulties, which could be due to Taiwan’s “wet and high
humidity climate, seasonal monsoon rains blowing salt-
laden ocean water inland, or improper maintenance and
handling by ground service crew,” according to the media
report.
Major General Huang Kuo-ming, commander of the Army
Aviation Special Forces Command, stated that nine
helicopters had to be grounded due to serious oxidation on
metal components, which was discovered in the
helicopters’ tail rotor gearboxes- made of a new aluminum-
magnesium alloy.
“We noticed rust corrosion developing in the tail rotor
gearbox in March, and notified the US side of the problem
at that time. They were quite concerned, and have advised
our side to apply several remedial measures to counteract
the corrosion,” Huang said at a news briefing this week.
However, the recommended anti-rust measures were
unsuccessful and the Taiwanese military began a
comprehensive safety check of every single helicopter in
September. “The procedure is still ongoing,” said Huang,
adding that the safety checks should be completed by the
end of November.
Huang also stated that the current technical problems will
neither interrupt the training schedule of pilots, nor delay
the induction date of the attack helicopters. “We will
formally commission the Apaches into service on schedule
in early 2017,” he emphasized.
In addition, to the nine helicopters grounded due to
corrosion, twelve Apaches are also not operational due to
missing spare parts, leaving only eight AH-64E Apache
gunships operational. (One AH-64E was lost when it
crashed into a three-story building during a training flight
in bad weather conditions in April 2014.)
The AH-64 Apache is one of the world’s most advanced
multi-role combat helicopters. According to a The Diplomat
analysis from December 2013:
The Apache Guardian is armed with an M230 30mm
chain gun, which can fire up to 625 high-explosive
dual-purpose rounds per minute, and can be
configured to carry AGM-114L “Hellfire” air-to-
ground missiles (a total of 16 for anti-armor
missions), AIM-9 “Sidewinder” air-to-air missiles, and
Hydra 70 2.75-inch rockets.
Among the many advantages of the AH-64E are its
improved composite main rotor blades, which are
15cm longer than those used on older models, as well
as a new tip design and General Electric T700-
GE-701D engines, all of which give the aircraft
improved aerodynamic performance.
Boeing delivered a total of 30 attack helicopters to Taiwan
between November 2013 and October 2014. Total
acquisition costs were $2.53 billion, which, next to the
helicopters, included 1,000 AGM-114L Hellfire missiles and
66 M299 Hellfire Longbow missile launchers.

http://thediplomat.com/2015/10/grounded-taiwans-us-made-attack-helicopter-fleet-is-rusting-away/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:12pm On Oct 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
Cute, love the workmanship... did a child make it?

You want to see what we have made?
Give us citation to explain the two photos, what the equipment are and which company makes them.

BTWN, the NAF stuff are made by air force men and not a manufacturing company, it's a prototype not final product, wanna see photo of what the first Rooivalk helicopter prototype looked like?

Nobody makes a workshop prototype of a product under development and makes it look like an industrial commercial end product. Fool, it's not like Gulma drone that has reached final stage and market ready.

NAF men are creating and building hi-tech equipment, SAAF men cannot do that, why is South Africa mentally and intellectually inferior to Nigeria? Why?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:26pm On Oct 30, 2015
Patchesagain:
[size=20pt]No advanced missile for NAF EVER 100% confirmed!!

No domestically produced guided missile for Nigeria EVER 100% Confirmed!![/size]
NIGERIA HAS FINED MTN A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO FUND FOR THEIR WAR ON INSURGENCY. MTN IS BEING SACRIFICED AS A CASH COW TO FUND NIGERIAS ARMS PROGRAM. MTN MUST PACK THEIR BAGS AND GO OUT OF NIGERIA.

#MTNMUSTNEVERPAY
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:39pm On Oct 30, 2015
mzilakazi:
A-Darter is proudly SA made product. Denel manufacture it and having Brazil flag does not equate into making conclusions that it is made by Brazil. Gripen jets can be branded with SA flag and equally F7 Jets can be branded with Nigerian flag but will that mean both countries produced those fighters? The answer is a big NO.


A gripen bearing SA flag and as such is made from South Africa according to Agaugust.
Brazilian company mectron produced it with Denel and they financed it together.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-34694/

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/brazilian-air-force-commissions-factory-for-a-darter-380258/

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/south-africa-brazil-ready-for-a-darter-missile-test.12178/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:44pm On Oct 30, 2015
Nearly 50 Brazilian civilian and military engineers are supporting development work in South Africa, and Avibras and Mectron sources have pinned high hopes on the A-Darter's export potential.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/south-africa-brazil-ready-for-a-darter-missile-test.12178/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:47pm On Oct 30, 2015
Brazil agreed to join the A-Darter programme with South Africa in 2006, becoming co-owner of the intellectual property and the recipient of transferred technologies including optics, navigation, sensors and image processing.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/brazilian-air-force-commissions-factory-for-a-darter-380258/

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:59pm On Oct 30, 2015
Do you guys think you produce most of these equipment alone? You might also want to compare Badger IFV with patria IFV and tell us who produce it.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:10pm On Oct 30, 2015
mzilakazi:
NIGERIA HAS FINED MTN A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO FUND FOR THEIR WAR ON INSURGENCY. MTN IS BEING SACRIFICED AS A CASH COW TO FUND NIGERIAS ARMS PROGRAM. MTN MUST PACK THEIR BAGS AND GO OUT OF NIGERIA.

#MTNMUSTNEVERPAY
Is that why you want to cry?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:14pm On Oct 30, 2015
mzilakazi:
NIGERIA HAS FINED MTN A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO FUND FOR THEIR WAR ON INSURGENCY. MTN IS BEING SACRIFICED AS A CASH COW TO FUND NIGERIAS ARMS PROGRAM. MTN MUST PACK THEIR BAGS AND GO OUT OF NIGERIA.

#MTNMUSTNEVERPAY
We own you, we rule you...

Nigerian Communications Commission has given a November 16 deadline for MTN Nigeria to pay a N1.04tn ($5.2bn) fine for failing to disconnect unregistered SIM cards. The penalty saw the company’s shares crash on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange and raised questions about the renewal of its licence in Nigeria next year if the fine goes unpaid.

http://punchng.com/2015/10/2298

shocked shocked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:10pm On Oct 30, 2015
mzilakazi:
NIGERIA HAS FINED MTN A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO FUND FOR THEIR WAR ON INSURGENCY. MTN IS BEING SACRIFICED AS A CASH COW TO FUND NIGERIAS ARMS PROGRAM. MTN MUST PACK THEIR BAGS AND GO OUT OF NIGERIA.

#MTNMUSTNEVERPAY
lol..who cares? really

Globacom will be smiling right now
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:53pm On Oct 30, 2015
iblawi:
Brazilian company mectron produced it with Denel and they financed it together.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-34694/

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/brazilian-air-force-commissions-factory-for-a-darter-380258/

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/south-africa-brazil-ready-for-a-darter-missile-test.12178/
The Southies have totally removed the name of Brazil from the A-Darter project, they want to claim 100% glory and rob Brazil.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:22am On Oct 31, 2015
agaugust:
Give us citation to explain the two photos, what the equipment are and which company makes them.

BTWN, the NAF stuff are made by air force men and not a manufacturing company, it's a prototype not final product, wanna see photo of what the first Rooivalk helicopter prototype looked like?

Nobody makes a workshop prototype of a product under development and makes it look like an industrial commercial end product. Fool, it's not like Gulma drone that has reached final stage and market ready.

NAF men are creating and building hi-tech equipment, SAAF men cannot do that, why is South Africa mentally and intellectually inferior to Nigeria? Why?
.
Here is the first Rooivalk prototype... still more advanced than anything Nigeria has made!

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:23am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
Do you guys think you produce most of these equipment alone? You might also want to compare Badger IFV with patria IFV and tell us who produce it.
There is a 70% difference between those two vehicles.

And we will be producing it

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:24am On Oct 31, 2015
agaugust:
We own you, we rule you...

Nigerian Communications Commission has given a November 16 deadline for MTN Nigeria to pay a N1.04tn ($5.2bn) fine for failing to disconnect unregistered SIM cards. The penalty saw the company’s shares crash on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange and raised questions about the renewal of its licence in Nigeria next year if the fine goes unpaid.

http://punchng.com/2015/10/2298

shocked shocked
No, you display poor business practices for all the world to see

Hence dissuading foreign nations from FDI or starting up their own firms in Nigeria.

You cut off your nose to spite your face
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:25am On Oct 31, 2015
agaugust:
The Southies have totally removed the name of Brazil from the A-Darter project, they want to claim 100% glory and rob Brazil.
Just like you want to claim 100% glory for Brazil and rob South Africa?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m):
Patchesagain:
Just like you want to claim 100% glory for Brazil and rob South Africa?
mzilakazi:
A-Darter is proudly SA made product. Denel manufacture it and having Brazil flag does not equate into making conclusions that it is made by Brazil. Gripen jets can be branded with SA flag and equally F7 Jets can be branded with Nigerian flag but will that mean both countries produced those fighters? The answer is a big NO.


A gripen bearing SA flag and as such is made from South Africa according to Agaugust.
No 1 is robbing you of anything, you were d 1 claiming Brazil bought it from South Africa and placed the flag on it. All we did was to prove you wrong.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:06am On Oct 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
There is a 70% difference between those two vehicles.

And we will be producing it
Anoda error.

Not 70% different but 70% of it will be produce in South Africa and 30% imported from Finland.

It doesn't mean South African are the 1s to produce 70% of the Badger but their expatriate will in produce them in South Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 7:29am On Oct 31, 2015
Patchesagain:
No, you display poor business practices for all the world to see

Hence dissuading foreign nations from FDI or starting up their own firms in Nigeria.

You cut off your nose to spite your face
I always tell you South Africans can never outsmart Nigerians. Ask Volkswagen the same question.

Etisalat recently block my new Sim cost I didn't complete registration why can MTN not do the same despite several warnings. They are scared of losing customers rite?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:28am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
No 1 is robbing you of anything, you were d 1 claiming Brazil bought it from South Africa and placed the flag on it. All we did was to prove you wrong.
We claimed it because Brazil DID BUY IT FROM US

Its a South Africa product - sold by Denel

End of story
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:29am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
Anoda error.

Not 70% different but 70% of it will be produce in South Africa and 30% imported from Finland.

It doesn't mean South African are the 1s to produce 70% of the Badger but their expatriate will in produce them in South Africa.
No, 70% of the vehical is "local content"

Not "locally produced" its "local content"

This has been proven many times, stop wasting my time with assinine arguments
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:31am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
I always tell you South Africans can never outsmart Nigerians. Ask Volkswagen the same question.

Etisalat recently block my new Sim cost I didn't complete registration why can MTN not do the same despite several warnings. They are scared of losing customers rite?
Why MTN didnt do it is irrelevant

The fact is that Nigerian repeated nigerian conduct towards large multi-nationals sets a precedent that is scaring away foreign investors and companies.

Hence why remain Africa's largest recipent of FDI - people know we can be trusted and that we conduct buisness in a cool and level headed manner.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m):
agaugust:
We own you, we rule you...

Nigerian Communications Commission has given a November 16 deadline for MTN Nigeria to pay a N1.04tn ($5.2bn) fine for failing to disconnect unregistered SIM cards. The penalty saw the company’s shares crash on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange and raised questions about the renewal of its licence in Nigeria next year if the fine goes unpaid.

http://punchng.com/2015/10/2298

shocked shocked
Yesterday talks were held on the radio with SA commercial sabotage expert in which issues were raised concerning MTN's outrageous fine of $5.2 billion. It was, however noted that Nigeria is in a huge financial crisis owing to constant falling oil prices and hence will look up to any means to amount any cash even by illegitimate means.

The following possibilities were raised by experts.

1. The fine was predetermined and outrageous, no where in the world have you seen such madness.

2. The nature of Nigeria's institutions of higher learning characterised by low quality education and consequently producing half-baked professionals as in the case of Nigerian professionals whom were hired by MTN Nigeria has effectively played a role. The action of deactivating even over 100 million subscribers could not have taken SA trained technicians more than five days to complete. This effectively proves that Nigeria's universities are of a low grade for producing half-baked professionals who could not render a simple task of deactivating unregistered sim cards on their mainstream network.

3. The element of bribery could have as well taken effect, since MTN had always been a target of Nigerias government. There is a high possibility that the CEO of MTN Nigeria being a Nigerian by birth could have been compromised in exchange of exorbitant amount of bribes to drag his feet in response to catching up with the deadline set up by the commission.

What are avenues for MTN?

1.MTN should institute immediate forensic investigation with experts imported from SA and America to investigate the commission of white collar crimes and sabotage.

2. A total pull out at no cost. MTN has an option of shutting down their business in Nigeria and leave them with a burden of unemployment and shrinking GDP with nothing to pay.

3. South Africa and Indian relations have now been lifted with already some SA shops launching their business in India. MTN has an option of dumping Nigeria for India.

THIS HOWEVER SERVES AS PRECEDENT FOR FOREIGN COMPANIES AND INVESTORS TO KEEP AWAY FROM NIGERIA AND LEAVE IT TO SINK IN A POOL OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND LOW FDI.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:39am On Oct 31, 2015
mzilakazi:
Yesterday talks were held on the radio with SA commercial sabotage expert in which issues were raised concerning MTN's outrageous fine of $5.2 billion. It was, however noted that Nigeria is in a huge financial crisis owing to constant falling oil prices and hence will look up to any means to amount any cash even by illegitimate means.

The following possibilities were raised by experts.

1. The fine was predetermined and outrageous, no where in the world have you seen such madness.

2. The nature of Nigeria's institutions of higher learning characterised by low quality education and consequently producing half-baked professionals as in the case of Nigerian professionals whom were hired by MTN Nigeria has effectively played a role. The action of deactivating even over 100 million subscribers could not have taken SA trained technicians more than five days to complete. This effectively proves that Nigeria's universities are of a low grade for producing half-baked professionals who could not render a simple task of deactivating unregistered sim cards on their mainstream network.

3. The element of bribery could have as well taken effect, since MTN had always been a target of Nigerias government. There is a high possibility that the CEO of MTN Nigeria being a Nigerian by birth could have been compromised in exchange of exorbitant amount of bribes to drag his feet in response to catching up with the deadline set up by the commission.

What are avenues for MTN?

1.MTN should institute immediate forensic investigation with experts imported from SA and America to investigate the commission of white collar crimes and sabotage.

2. A total pull out at no cost. MTN has an option of shutting down their business in Nigeria and leave them with a burden of unemployment and shrinking GDP with nothing to pay.

3. South Africa and Indian relations have now been lifted with already some SA shops launching their business in India. MTN has an option of dumping Nigeria for India.

THIS HOWEVER SERVES AS PRECEDENT FOR FOREIGN COMPANIES TO KEEP AWAY FROM NIGERIA AND LEAVE IT TO SINK IN A POOL OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND LOW FDI.
Was your country broke when our money was seized?

We broke your law and you seized $15m

Now you broke our law and we are to seize $5 billion.

We warned you before that you will regret it but you wanted to show the world you were powerful. Now you are the 1 begging.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:58am On Oct 31, 2015
Let me breakdown how mtn planned to cheat to you Boi.

Over 5 million unregistered subscriber where to be de-activated. MTN's plan was to make their money and pay the usual $200 million fine after making more as they use to do. But NCC shocked them big time.

As dull as they are they expect Nigeria to bill them that small. Imagine how many billion dollars you can make from over $5 million subscribers in a year.

It's a Fraudulent act my dear.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:58am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
Was your country broke when our money was seized?

We broke your law and you seized $15m

Now you broke our law and we are to seize $5 billion.

We warned you before that you will regret it but you wanted to show the world you were powerful. Now you are the 1 begging.
You see what i highlighted?

Its the inferiority of the nigerian psyche, childish obsessions and simplistic veiws
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:59am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
Let me breakdown how mtn planned to cheat to you Boi.

Over 5 million unregistered subscriber where to be de-activated. MTN's plan was to make their money and pay the usual $200 million fine after making more as they use to do. But NCC shocked them big time.

As dull as they are they expect Nigeria to bill them that small. Imagine how many billion dollars you can make from over $5 million subscribers in a year.

It's a Fraudulent act my dear.
Its a shakedown by the cash-strapped Nigerian government
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 11:03am On Oct 31, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:17am On Oct 31, 2015
iblawi:
Was your country broke when our money was seized?

We broke your law and you seized $15m

Now you broke our law and we are to seize $5 billion.

We warned you before that you will regret it but you wanted to show the world you were powerful. Now you are the 1 begging.
Don't take it out on MTN using fraudulent schemes which will consequently render you starving for FDI. Take it out on SA government which has already taken the decision to return your money. The SA government wanted to take steps to ensure first that the arms which were bought were not meant for Boko Haram.


Your action of imposing such outrageous sanction is dangerous and will amount to exodus of foreign investors in your country which will in turn run to us. You are slowly but surely pushing your status as the continent economic powerhouse back to its rightful owner. Your foreign investors will be in our mercy and we will gladly receive and welcome them with open arms. This way, foreign investors will continue to see SA as their only fair gateway to Africa.
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