₦airaland Forum

FighterPilot:
MTN is said that will close down their Nigerian business should NCC fail to heed to their demands with Airtel said will as well follow the suit.

No problem.

iblawi:
This has been going on for years but your executives want to keep making money.

That is a big fat lie. I watched the news last night where Vodafone COO detailed it the way we come to understand it. All operators where given seven days to deactivate unregistered sims from their databases, the task which he said would require at least a month to accomplish. A short notice which speaks volume about sabotage.

iblawi:
No problem.

I forsee crisis with the number of FDI shrinking.

FighterPilot:
That is a big fat lie. I watched the news last night where Vodafone COO detailed it the way we come to understand it. All operators where given seven days to deactivate unregistered sims from their databases, the task which he said would require at least a month to accomplish. A short notice which speaks volume about sabotage.

August till now is how many months.

iblawi:
August till now is how many months.

It was seven days dummy

mzilakazi:
I forsee crisis with the number of FDI shrinking.

Keep deceiving yourself.

FighterPilot:
The answer is no, because MTN SA has brilliant engineers and leaders. Moreover, SA government never rushed in operators to do miracle in seven days.

lol... keep deceiving yourselves. there are countless unregistered [active] and pre-registered sim cards in SA.. even mtn, cell c tweaks for free browsing..

you don't know nigerians...

iterator24:
lol... keep deceiving yourselves. there are countless unregistered [active] and pre-registered sim cards in SA.. even mtn, cell c tweaks for free browsing..

you don't know nigerians...

You are a terrific and pathetic liar. Your line will never be allowed the network unless is registered liar.

iblawi:
Keep deceiving yourself.

Any country that harms FDI is set to lose big time.

An American detailing how you stand to lose big on FDI.

https://asokoinsight.com/news/nigeria-risks-fdi-with-unprecedented-5-billion-mtn-penalty/

mzilakazi:
Yesterday talks were held on the radio with SA commercial sabotage expert in which issues were raised concerning MTN's outrageous fine of $5.2 billion. It was, however noted that Nigeria is in a huge financial crisis owing to constant falling oil prices and hence will look up to any means to amount any cash even by illegitimate means.

The following possibilities were raised by experts.

1. The fine was predetermined and outrageous, no where in the world have you seen such madness.

2. The nature of Nigeria's institutions of higher learning characterised by low quality education and consequently producing half-baked professionals as in the case of Nigerian professionals whom were hired by MTN Nigeria has effectively played a role. The action of deactivating even over 100 million subscribers could not have taken SA trained technicians more than five days to complete. This effectively proves that Nigeria's universities are of a low grade for producing half-baked professionals who could not render a simple task of deactivating unregistered sim cards on their mainstream network.

3. The element of bribery could have as well taken effect, since MTN had always been a target of Nigerias government. There is a high possibility that the CEO of MTN Nigeria being a Nigerian by birth could have been compromised in exchange of exorbitant amount of bribes to drag his feet in response to catching up with the deadline set up by the commission.

What are avenues for MTN?

1.MTN should institute immediate forensic investigation with experts imported from SA and America to investigate the commission of white collar crimes and sabotage.

2. A total pull out at no cost. MTN has an option of shutting down their business in Nigeria and leave them with a burden of unemployment and shrinking GDP with nothing to pay.

3. South Africa and Indian relations have now been lifted with already some SA shops launching their business in India. MTN has an option of dumping Nigeria for India.

THIS HOWEVER SERVES AS PRECEDENT FOR FOREIGN COMPANIES AND INVESTORS TO KEEP AWAY FROM NIGERIA AND LEAVE IT TO SINK IN A POOL OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND LOW FDI.

Wow!! Just wow!!

If this guy is the most intelligent man and one of the products of south African education, I can only smh

His opinion on the way forward for MTN can best be argued by south African drunks in pubs. Not on a radio show

MTN stocks has been on a steady decline since the fine was imposed. What's to say the company will recover when it loses it's Nigerian market being it's biggest revenue earner and largest in the world.

Who is to be investigated by the forensic experts? Did the blockhead realize that mtn has been flouting Nigerian laws since it's inception in Nigeria?

3 times the deadline for sim deactivation was pushed because of this south African yellow parasite yet you animals scream of being victimized when authorities finally get serious?

Is mtn the only telco in Nigeria? Why is it mtn that has to be the one being caught doing wrong.

He talks about half baked graduates but forgot it was the same graduates that have managed the business to remain the biggest telco in Nigeria till date.

Same Nigerian engineers that have worked on expansion projects for more than a decade now and are managing other telcos in the country.

You south Africans think only jobs will be affected in Nigeria. MTN losing it's biggest revenue earner will cause a lot of downsizing which will also affect south Africans as well since your salaries come from Nigeria you illiterate fools.

And by the way, with a market like Nigeria, if mtn withdraws, the effect will only be temporary for us since they are not listed on our stock exchange and the government only has to implement policies for other telcos to close the gap or new telcos willing to come in to have a share of the market taking the advantage.

So anyway it goes, SA will be most affected.

You south Africans should beg your government to declare a state of emergency on south African brains. It's too slow for practical reasoning.

FighterPilot:
Any country that harms FDI is set to lose big time.

An American detailing how you stand to lose big on FDI.

https://asokoinsight.com/news/nigeria-risks-fdi-with-unprecedented-5-billion-mtn-penalty/

Fool. I see your illiteracy is yet to improve.

Investors are being cautious because Nigeria is yet to have an economic team. If your brain was working you would understand that was his main point.

Just wait for buhari to name his cabinet and see the magic happen.

mtn will pay and there's nothing your government can do about it.

stillchris:
Fool. I see your illiteracy is yet to improve.

Every investor staying is showing concerns because Nigeria is yet to have an economic team.

mtn will pay and there's nothing you can do about it

MTN will pay yes, but FDI will be left to suffer. Investors have lost confidence on Buhari's administration.

Forbes noted that foreign investors have lost confidence on Africa's biggest economy. Could SA use that to their advantage?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peteguest/2015/10/30/does-mtns-5-2bn-fine-signal-a-more-inward-looking-nigeria/

Patchesagain:
Here is the first Rooivalk prototype... still more advanced than anything Nigeria has made!

Bwahahaaha

What an ugly workshop piece of metal.....looks worse than a world war II aircraft
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FighterPilot:
MTN will pay yes, but FDI will be left to suffer. Investors have lost confidence on Buhari's administration.

If MTN would pay why do you think other investors too will not invests. You people lack analytical skill.
South African Universities must be producing fooooooollllllllls

agaugust:
Bwahahaaha

What an ugly workshop piece of metal.....looks worse than a world war II aircraft
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And so?

Have you built anything that compares?

No you have not! Because you are a "proudly 100% black" failure!*

*your words not mine

Patchesagain:
There is a 70% difference between those two vehicles.

And we will be producing it

Patchesagain:
No, 70% of the vehical is "local content"

Not "locally produced" its "local content"

It's all propaganda.

Only 5 Badgers exist, all fully built by Finland and exported to South Africa.

The Badger engine and chassis will always be made by Finland since South Africa does not produce such heavy machinery.

The heart and soul of any vehicle is engine and chassis, so since Finland is making and exporting the Badger engine and chassis to you, how does South African local content add up to 70% when the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland?

Your 30 mm cannon and welded steel body makes 70% of an IFV ? Why don't you let us remove the Finland made engine and chassis and we will see how your propaganda 70% that remains will be able to move on the road like a vehicle....with no engine and chassis

Badger IFV is 70% product of FINLAND and will forever remain so
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Patchesagain:
No, you display poor business practices for all the world to see

Hence dissuading foreign nations from FDI or starting up their own firms in Nigeria.

You cut off your nose to spite your face

Nigeria is forcing South Africa to vomit free $5 billion from MTN bank account into our Abuja pockets for Christmas enjoyment.

We own you, we always will kick you around like this

agaugust:
[s]It's all propaganda.

Only 5 Badgers exist, all fully built by Finland and exported to South Africa.

The Badger engine and chassis will always be made by Finland since South Africa does not produce such heavy machinery.

The heart and soul of any vehicle is engine and chassis, so since Finland is making and exporting the Badger engine and chassis to you, how does South African content add up to 70% when the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland?

Your 30 mm cannon and welded steel body makes 70% of an IFV ? Why don't you let us remove the Finland made engine and chassis and we will see how your propaganda 70% that remains will be able to move on the road like a vehicle....with no engine and chassis

Badger IFV is 70% product of FINLAND and will forever remain so[/s]
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Not propaganda - fact.

If you continue to post rubbish, I will continue to cross it out.

I know you find it hard to come to terms with the fact that we are not only going to be building the best IFV in Africa, but that the vast majority of the vehical will be South African.

But the simple fact is that the Badger is 70% South African - be a man, deal with it, accept it and move on with your life.

agaugust:
[s]Nigeria is forcing South Africa to vomit free $5 billion from MTN bank account into our Abuja pockets for Christmas enjoyment.

We own you, we always will kick you around like this[/s]

Simple minds...

Patchesagain:
Why MTN didnt do it is irrelevant

The fact is that Nigerian repeated nigerian conduct towards large multi-nationals sets a precedent that is scaring away foreign investors and companies.

Hence why remain Africa's largest recipent of FDI - people know we can be trusted and that we conduct buisness in a cool and level headed manner.

More investors are rushing into Nigeria, you ignorant local man of Gauteng enclave.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/manufacturing/190957-50-french-companies-on-first-of-a-kind-business-trip-to-nigeria.html

As for South Africa, it's payback time, now you broke our law and we will milk you dry till Mama Soweto's titties have no more milk

Nigeria is sucking $5 billion cash out of South Africa's pocket in one day.....close to christmas time dude, we will eat your dollars
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agaugust:
More investors are rushing into Nigeria, you ignorant local man of Gauteng enclave.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/manufacturing/190957-50-french-companies-on-first-of-a-kind-business-trip-to-nigeria.html

As for South Africa, it's payback time, now you broke our law and we will milk you dry till Mama Soweto's titties have no more milk

Nigeria is sucking $5 billion cash out of South Africa's pocket in one day.....close to christmas time dude, we will eat your dollars
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South Africa remains the top FDI destination in Africa, you ignorant man of Lagos enclave.

No one is going to want to do buisness in Nigeria because of your behavior

Simple facts

Patchesagain:
But the simple fact is that the Badger is 70% South African - be a man, deal with it, accept it and move on with your life.

The heart and soul of any vehicle is engine and chassis, so since Finland is making and exporting the Badger engine and chassis to you, how does South African local content add up to 70% when the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland?

Your 30 mm cannon and welded steel body makes 70% of an IFV ? Why don't you let us remove the Finland made engine and chassis and we will see how your propaganda 70% that remains will be able to move on the road like a vehicle....with no engine and chassis

Badger IFV is 70% product of FINLAND and will forever remain so

agaugust:
More investors are rushing into Nigeria, you ignorant local man of Gauteng enclave.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/manufacturing/190957-50-french-companies-on-first-of-a-kind-business-trip-to-nigeria.html

As for South Africa, it's payback time, now you broke our law and we will milk you dry till Mama Soweto's titties have no more milk

Nigeria is sucking $5 billion cash out of South Africa's pocket in one day.....close to christmas time dude, we will eat your dollars
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Your action has now taken a different approach which will see Exodus of investors in Nigeria.

Your government has raised a red flag to slaughter investors. Most of Buharis adminittators are uneducated Northerners who do not understand the value of investment. Jonathan was sacrificed for mediocrity.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine

agaugust:
[s]The heart and soul of any vehicle is engine and chassis, so since Finland is making and exporting the Badger engine and chassis to you, how does South African local content add up to 70% when the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland?

Your 30 mm cannon and welded steel body makes 70% of an IFV ? Why don't you let us remove the Finland made engine and chassis and we will see how your propaganda 70% that remains will be able to move on the road like a vehicle....with no engine and chassis

Badger IFV is 70% product of FINLAND and will forever remain so[/s]

Steyn also quotes figures of 70% in-country content and 2,000 jobs, which would match the proposed Badger IFV.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Simple
Facts

Its 70% South African, and its the best in Africa.

We continue to leave Nigeria in the dust, cutting edge massive firepower and ultra-advanced weapons systems in large numbers.... Nigeria has nothing to compare.

DEAL WITH IT
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Patchesagain:
South Africa remains the top FDI destination in Africa, you ignorant man of Lagos enclave.

No one is going to want to do buisness in Nigeria because of your behavior

Simple facts

After what Nigeria has done we will surely double Nigeria's FDI.

FighterPilot:
After what Nigeria has done we will surely double Nigeria's FDI.

$15 million for South Africa
$5 billion for Nigeria.

Next time don't break our law.

mzilakazi:
SA technologists and engineers have criticized Nigeria's trained half baked engineers for their slow technical action of deactivating sims and have suggested that instead they could have shut down all the users' sims and activate only the ones properly registered by taking their time.

MTN hopefully realises that instead they could have hired SA based engineers, but now that they wanted to create jobs in Nigeria they ended up with half-baked fake engineers. Nigerian trained engineers are truly a disaster to hire.

FighterPilot:
Bwahahaha… surely NCC knew the nature of the quality of engineers Nigeria have. They knew they have engineers who are not innovative and who could take ages to deactivate the unregisted Sims. They knew before hand that the money was already on their pockets due to the kind of training Nigerian engineers received. However, that action of Nigeria has already been criticized worldwide and could land them in hot water.

Liar, the other telecoms companies like Globacom which is 100% Nigerian owned, used Nigerian engineers to successfully comply with the law and meet the government deadline.

MTN managers from South Africa are actually the dullards who cannot manage a company well to meet deadlines and avoid breaking laws.

Meanwhile, MTN shares are crashing on Johannesburg stock exchange, see Nigeria shaking South African economy !

I am writing up my Christmas shopping list soon, Nigeria is eating $5 billion from South Africa's lean pocket

We go chop your dollars
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FighterPilot:
MTN is said that will close down their Nigerian business should NCC fail to heed to their demands with Airtel said will as well follow the suit.

Globacom will take over all MTN customers.....we have always dreamed of that day coming.

mzilakazi:
I forsee crisis with the number of FDI shrinking.

Nobody will pity a law breaker who is being punished for it's offence.

It will increase Nigeria's investment ranking as a law enforcing country where discipline is in place, and fraudulence not tolerated.

agaugust:
[s]Liar, the other telecoms companies like Globacom which is 100% Nigerian owned, used Nigerian engineers to successfully comply with the law and meet the government deadline.

MTN managers from South Africa are actually the dullards who cannot manage a company well to meet deadlines and avoid breaking laws.

Meanwhile, MTN shares are crashing on Johannesburg stock exchange, see Nigeria shaking South African economy !

I am writing up my Christmas shopping list soon, Nigeria is eating $5 billion from South Africa's lean pocket

We go chop your dollars[/s]
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cutting off your nose to spite your face...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine

It may cost us $5 Billion, but you it cost you much much more

agaugust:
Nobody will pity a law breaker who is being punished for it's offence.

It will increase Nigeria's investment ranking as a law enforcing country where discipline is in place, and fraudulence not tolerated.

“Turning the screws on a multinational company right before they need to renew their license, sort of holding them to ransom with an incredible fine -- I’m not saying that’s what the motivation here is -- but its the kind of thing that will raise red flags for foreign operators,”

They see you for what you are

Thugs doing a shakedown