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Patchesagain:
Aradu is not operational - so you dont have Otomat or Aspide missiles.

When she enters service... them come talk, until then - silence please and accept Coast Guard status.

And no, Aradu does not have more firepower, dont be a fool.

Aradu? Approximate firepower : 180 km anti-ship missile, 75 km BVR anti-aircraft missile, 25 km range anti-submarine torpedoes, 13 km range anti-aircraft guns, 30 km range anti-ship guns, 100 anti-missile decoys....only Egypt, Algeria, Morocco have warships that can dare to challenge NNS Aradu when she comes back from refit
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agaugust:
What tanks and LAV does South Africa sell ? Name them.

REVA MRAP was a deal done before the $9m saga, 48 units only....we bought 120 units of Chinese MRAPS.

We can't afford what you sell? The Chinese MRAP we bought is more expensive than your REVA MRAP, and we bought almost 3 times more quantity of the more expensive Chinese MRAP.

Their are South African companies leasing Bell helicopters and Gazelles that's why the $9 m deal included Bell helicopters
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1. What LAV does South Africa sell? Marauder, Matador, Marauder Patrol, Mbombe 4X4, Gila, Rg-32, Rg-34, R35 and a large number more

2. What tanks does South Africa sell? T-72 ATE variant

3.
CS/VP3 Unit cost: $500,000
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4741.htm

Reva cost is not listed, but the RG-33 which is simular costs $600,000-$1 million
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3551.html

Citations for RSA leasing bell and Gazelles please.

Yet again, you have been shown to have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

agaugust:
Aradu? Approximately : 180 km anti-ship missile, 75 km BVR anti-aircraft missile, 25 km range anti-submarine torpedoes, 13km range anti-aircraft guns, 30 km range anti-ship guns, 100 anti-missile decoys....only Egypt, Algeria, Morocco have warships that can dare to challenge NNS Aradu when she comes back from refit
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Otomat max range: 80km

Aspide: Only 24 and OBSOLETE

AA guns: OBSOLETE

Anti-ship gun? Lol, what is this WW2?

100 missile decoys? Citation needed!

One Heroin class sub and Aradu is gone, Valour Class crews can sit in port in Simons Town and braai while we win the war with ease.

Aradu is completely and utterly obsolete - a floating museum, completely and utterly outclassed by the Valour Class.

PS: I like how you post ranges of weapons as though that is the only thing that counts

agaugust:
[s]Every missile on your Frigate is neutralized by our stealth OPV anti-missile defenses, and your sunmarines cannot survive in Nigerian waters.....never mind our new navy FALCON EYE which you don't have an answer to[/s]
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LOL: THE FACT THAT YOU ALLWAYS ONLY TALK WITH NIGERIA DEFENDING AND SOUTH AFRICA ATTACKING CONFIRMS THAT YOU ONLY HAVE A COAST GUARD

1. Citation that OPV anti-missile defences are 100% effective

2. Citation for just how much of your coast is covered by FALCON EYE

Dont waste my time with childish games.

Patchesagain:
1. What LAV does South Africa sell? Marauder, Matador, Marauder Patrol, Mbombe 4X4, Gila, Rg-32, Rg-34, R35 and a large number more

2. What tanks does South Africa sell? T-72 ATE variant

3.
CS/VP3 Unit cost: $500,000
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4741.htm

Reva cost is not listed, but the RG-33 which is simular costs $600,000-$1 million
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3551.html

Citations for RSA leasing bell and Gazelles please.

Yet again, you have been shown to have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

1. Fool, those are not LAVs, you listed MRAPs and IFVs you dummy ! South Africa has no single LAV so you don't know what LAV is.....example is Cobra or Igirigi

2. Quote price of REVA MRAP and stop comparing it with $1 million MRAPs, the REVA official website said it's built to be cheap and very affordable, you want to price it like a tank? Fool.

3. South Africa upgrades T-72 for countries who own them, you have NONE to sell, show me your tank exports and name the buyer.....I am waiting.

agaugust:
1. Fool, those are not LAVs, you listed MRAPs and IFVs you dummy ! South Africa has no single LAV so you don't know what LAV is.....example is Cobra or Igirigi

2. Quote price of REVA MRAP and stop comparing it with $1 million MRAPs, the REVA official website said it's built to be cheap and very affordable, you want to price it like a tank? Fool.

3. South Africa upgrades T-72 for countries who own them, you have NONE to sell, show me your tank exports and name the buyer.....I am waiting.

1. LAV = Light Armored Vehical, they all comply with the definition in one way or another.

2. Reva is of the same class as the RG I compared it to. You said it was cheaper than the Chinese vehicle - prove it

3. Who says we dont own them and sell them? Buyer? Algeria

Patchesagain:
LOL: THE FACT THAT YOU ALLWAYS ONLY TALK WITH NIGERIA DEFENDING AND SOUTH AFRICA ATTACKING CONFIRMS THAT YOU ONLY HAVE A COAST GUARD

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[size=13pt] Both Nigeria and South Africa have no capacity to attack each other, whoever sends out his navy will lose it's vessels in battle as they will be sunk [/size]
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agaugust:
[s] Both Nigeria and South Africa have no capacity to attack each other, whoever sends out his navy will lose it's vessels in battle as they will be sunk[/s]
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No, we have complete and utter capacity to attack you and a reasonable chance of success.

You on the other-hand HAVE NO OPERATIONAL WARSHIPS and thus cannot attack us.

We can project force, because you have a navy
You can only (try) to gaurd your coast, because you have a Coast gaurd

Simple.

agaugust:
[size=13pt] Both Nigeria and South Africa have no capacity to attack each other, whoever sends out his navy will lose it's vessels in battle as they will be sunk [/size]
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How will you sink our Valour Class or Submarines?

How?

Patchesagain:
1. LAV = Light Armored Vehical, they all comply with the definition in one way or another.

2. Reva is of the same class as the RG I compared it to. You said it was cheaper than the Chinese vehicle - prove it

3. Who says we dont own them and sell them? Buyer? Algeria

MRAPs are NOT LAVs, can Oryx helicopter carry an MRAP ? The heavy armor of MRAPS makes it's weight double an LAV weight. If you don't know how military equipment are categorized, just ask for free education. Nobody calls IFV and MRAP as LAVs in military circles, get it?

2. REVA MRAP official brochure on website.

3. Show citation to prove South Africa sold T-72 tanks to Algeria....I am waiting.....you see why MTN is paying $5 billion fine? Too much lies, fraud, deception, manipulation, dishonesty comes from you South Africans. Now show me source to prove you sold Tanks to Algeria
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Patchesagain:
How will you sink our Valour Class or Submarines?

How?

Rather than go back to repeat the same answer I have posted 30 repeatedly times in 3 years, I will just ignore you and keep writing my Christmas shopping list budgeted with MTN's free money .

agaugust:
MRAPs are NOT LAVs, can Oryx helicopter carry an MRAP ? The heavy armor of MRAPS makes it's weight double an LAV weight. If you don't know how military equipment are categorized, just ask for free education. Nobody calls IFV and MRAP as LAVs in military circles, get it?

2. REVA MRAP official brochure on website.

3. Show citation to prove South Africa sold T-72 tanks to Algeria....I am waiting.....you see why MTN is paying fine? Too much lies, fraud, manipulation, dishonesty comes from you South Africans. Now show me source to prove you sold Tanks to Algeria
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Provide a citation for definition of LAV

2. Dont tell lies, price is not listed. You said it was cheaper, citation please. Or were you just telling lies again?

3.
a. Been done, stop wasting my time, consult the archives. Pic related.
b. You claim 150 T-55's... yet you dont want to upgrade them? More like you cant afford to upgrade them


Dont talk about fraud and lies when I have literally just now exposed you for telling straight up lies about vehicle costs.

yet again, we see your usual tactics - you get whipped in an argument and now you resort to muddying the water with meaningless demands and accusations.

I am done here, call me when you have an coherent argument to make.

agaugust:
MRAPs are NOT LAVs, can Oryx helicopter carry an MRAP ? The heavy armor of MRAPS makes it's weight double an LAV weight. If you don't know how military equipment are categorized, just ask for free education. Nobody calls IFV and MRAP as LAVs in military circles, get it?

2. REVA MRAP official brochure on website.

3. Show citation to prove South Africa sold T-72 tanks to Algeria....I am waiting.....you see why MTN is paying $5 billion fine? Too much lies, fraud, deception, manipulation, dishonesty comes from you South Africans. Now show me source to prove you sold Tanks to Algeria
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- Can an Oryx carry a Cobra? NO!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AZKbO5UL7c

agaugust:
Rather than go back to repeat the same answer I have posted 30 repeatedly times in 3 years, I will just ignore you and keep writing my Christmas shopping list budgeted with MTN's free money .

No, you have never once answered the question properly

You have no warship to engage them with

Your aircraft have no proven munitions to engage them with.

It is a simple question, answer it: how will you sink them?

jln115:
- Can an Oryx carry a Cobra? NO!!!

lol, wrecked

Patchesagain:
No, you have never once answered the question properly

You have no warship to engage them with

Your aircraft have no proven munitions to engage them with.

It is a simple question, answer it: how will you sink them?

You will never know how until we sink them. You guys are too dull to thinking your navy can attack Nigeria just 4 Frigates carrying 15km missiles. And a submarine that can only be submerged for 400nmi.

South African are too dull. You will kept paying us money cos we rule you.

Patchesagain:
CS/VP3 Unit cost: $500,000
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4741.htm

Reva cost is not listed, but the RG-33 which is simular costs $600,000-$1 million
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3551.html

Citations for RSA leasing bell and Gazelles please.

Yet again, you have been shown to have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

You are just a bag full of fraud and lies. Nobody will buy a REVA MRAP for $1 million you fraud !

CS/VP3 cost is $545,000 http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4741.html

REVA cost is $333,000 Source : SIPRI arms sales log, sales to Thailand 87 units cost only $29 m

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


South Africa
L: Thailand 87 Mamba APC 2007 2008 (87) THB900 m ($29 m) deal; Reva-3 version

Chinese MRAPs cost us almost double the price of South African MRAPs, yet we bought almost 3 times more quantity from the Chinese....Nigeria does not need South African weapons, even though yours is cheaper, we can afford more expensive stuff.

You lose Patches # FVCKING WRECKED LIKE MTN
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jln115:
- Can an Oryx carry a Cobra? NO!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AZKbO5UL7c

1. Oryx sling carries 6,000 kg. Cobra weight is 4,800 kg. Yes Oryx will carry a Cobra.

2. Your youtube video boldly say UPGRADE and shows T-72 tank that Algeria purchased from Russia, being many years later upgraded in South Africa. Did you sell the tank to Algeria? Is an upgrade of fire control system same as selling a tank to somebody?

Now you complain when MTN gets fined for deception and manipulation, but ALMOST EVERY South African is fraudulent, now you want to claim falsely that you sell T-72 tanks to Algeria, tanks that were sold by Russia.

Reason why your MTN got into trouble for trying to deceive the Nigerian telecom regulatory authority. Is honesty hated in South Africa?

stillchris:
[s]Wow!! Just wow!!

If this guy is the most intelligent man and one of the products of south African education, I can only smh

His opinion on the way forward for MTN can best be argued by south African drunks in pubs. Not on a radio show

MTN stocks has been on a steady decline since the fine was imposed. What's to say the company will recover when it loses it's Nigerian market being it's biggest revenue earner and largest in the world.

Who is to be investigated by the forensic experts? Did the blockhead realize that mtn has been flouting Nigerian laws since it's inception in Nigeria?

3 times the deadline for sim deactivation was pushed because of this south African yellow parasite yet you animals scream of being victimized when authorities finally get serious?

Is mtn the only telco in Nigeria? Why is it mtn that has to be the one being caught doing wrong.

He talks about half baked graduates but forgot it was the same graduates that have managed the business to remain the biggest telco in Nigeria till date.

Same Nigerian engineers that have worked on expansion projects for more than a decade now and are managing other telcos in the country.

You south Africans think only jobs will be affected in Nigeria. MTN losing it's biggest revenue earner will cause a lot of downsizing which will also affect south Africans as well since your salaries come from Nigeria you illiterate fools.

And by the way, with a market like Nigeria, if mtn withdraws, the effect will only be temporary for us since they are not listed on our stock exchange and the government only has to implement policies for other telcos to close the gap or new telcos willing to come in to have a share of the market taking the advantage.

So anyway it goes, SA will be most affected.

You south Africans should beg your government to declare a state of emergency on south African brains. It's too slow for practical reasoning.

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Stock market value fluctuates and always goes up and down; and that's what it does.

Truly, you are a perfect epitome of poor Nigeria's education system. An example of what kind of employees MTN hired there in Nigeria.


MTN has a subscriber base of more than 210 million and that number has swelled ever since. You reduce your 68 million Nigerian based subscribers and MTN remains intact.

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2014/04/mtn-group-records-210-million-subscribers/

The resulting action that will take effect if MTN decides to pack their bags and go will be that your FDI will be badly hurt. Ask experts in that regard.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine

Whatever that I wrote was discussed by experts and they even said that Nigeria is hoping to persecute MTN over their financial woes and that the timing since MTN has to renew their licence next year speaks volume.

GOODBYE ILLITERATE FLAT HEAD.

agaugust:
[s]Every missile on your Frigate is neutralized by our stealth OPV anti-missile defenses, and your sunmarines cannot survive in Nigerian waters.....never mind our new navy FALCON EYE which you don't have an answer to
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Please don't discuss this the palm wine style. Neutralised as in how. Missile can never be neutralised; it is either you destroy it or it will crash you to death.

Patchesagain:
Aradu is not operational - so you dont have Otomat or Aspide missiles.

When she enters service... them come talk, until then - silence please and accept Coast Guard status.

And no, Aradu does not have more firepower, dont be a fool.

Arandu will never enter service ever again. She will have to rot in the dock forever.

lezz:
[s]You typically represent the millions of black south Africans: s.tupid, timid, emotionally deluded and inexperience in all spheres of human efforts.


First off south Africa has done its SIM registration which is marked by low level organisation and basic paper stuffs. No biometrics or advanced technology.

Nigeria has over 140 million gsm subscribers with mtn having 62 million, that's more than the entire population of your country. Coupled with biometrics, data capture, the process should take time.

Mtn has been fined 200,000 naira for this same offense last year as well as other gsm companies in Nigeria. While others quickly put their business in order, mtn was busy making profit.

The sheer amount of unregistered mtn subscribers that had access to the NIGERIAN network is a matter of national security, thus the huge fine.



If you accuse the NIGERIAN government of looking for easy money due to fallen oil price, may I call you an enfeebled, imbecilic , drooling ,tree-hopping Zulu.

While Nigeria economy still happens to grow 2.3 percent as at 3 quarter 2015, south Africa's economy is not stagnant : it is shrinking.

Perhaps, your government is the one looking for easy money through its multinational.

Zulu _baboon.

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Palm wine is really not good for you young man.

The writing is on the wall. Nigeria's government is desperate for money and will do anything stupidd to recover the money.

We all know that your government is in financial SOS and wants to suck money from MTN YEBO YES. No matter how broke you can become never sacrifice FDI for you will only add more problems to your challenges. Just imagine operators being given SEVEN days to act or else they will be fined $1005 per customer failed to be unregistered. That's madness of the highest order and outrageous.

mzilakazi:
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Palm wine is really not good for you young man.

The writing is on the wall. Nigeria's government is desperate for money and will do anything stupidd to recover the money.

We all know that your government is in financial SOS and wants to suck money from MTN YEBO YES. No matter how broke you can become never sacrifice FDI for you will only add more problems to your challenges. Just imagine operators being given SEVEN days to act or else they will be fined $1005 per customer failed to be unregistered. That's madness of the highest order and outrageous.

Do you need seven days to delete a folder from your computer?
Ask yourself why the 7 days was enough for other operators.
It simply means MTN is a dubious company.
Deadline was shifted severally before this last 1 so MTN have no excuse.

mzilakazi:
[s]Palm wine is really not good for you young man.

The writing is on the wall. Nigeria's government is desperate for money and will do anything stupidd to recover the money.

We all know that your government is in financial SOS and wants to suck money from MTN YEBO YES. No matter how broke you can become never sacrifice FDI for you will only add more problems to your challenges. Just imagine operators being given SEVEN days to act or else they will be fined $1005 per customer failed to be unregistered. That's madness of the highest order and outrageous.

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Mtn needs Nigeria more than humans need air. Haven't you read the Zulu hierarchy from south Africa running to the S.A embassy in Lagos to intervene on the matter ?

Your economy is on life support machine, an epileptic, Neanderthaloid like you and your irks will use any opportunity to delude yourselves out of reality.

When GlaxoSmithKline, BMW, defaulted in China, they were hammered with hefty fine . These western companies owned up to their misdeeds, paid the fine and tendered unreserved apology to the government and people of China.

We are over 170 million strong with the biggest market in Africa. Welcome to the new hegemony, Zulu.

Don't let your baseless,naive pride get in the way. Believe me the Zulu in charge of mtn is sweating profusely in the _ass as is the south African government.

Stanbic bank has gotten the stick too, DSTV should be next. I can't wait for that 5 billion dollars.

iblawi:
Do you need seven days to delete a folder from your computer?
Ask yourself why the 7 days was enough for other operators.
It simply means MTN is a dubious company.
Deadline was shifted severally before this last 1 so MTN have no excuse.

a very thieving company. When the NCC team cam for inspection, mtn staff denied them access to their data base. Because they know they are guilty.

iblawi:
Do you need seven days to delete a folder from your computer?
Ask yourself why the 7 days was enough for other operators.
It simply means MTN is a dubious company.
Deadline was shifted severally before this last 1 so MTN have no excuse.

Ask that question to your half baked Nigerian trained engineers.

mzilakazi:
Ask that question to your half baked Nigerian trained engineers.

No am to ask your managers who thinks of money at the expense of security of Nigerian.

Nigerian engineers are not the that manages the business policy, and they are not the one that received the letter from NCC. The only thing that concern they is the technical aspect of the business.

iblawi:
Do you need seven days to delete a folder from your computer?
Ask yourself why the 7 days was enough for other operators.
It simply means MTN is a dubious company.
Deadline was shifted severally before this last 1 so MTN have no excuse.

MTN will never pay you that money even if you ask pastor COLLAPSE to pray for it.

We all know that Nigeria is in financial SOS.

lezz:
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Mtn needs Nigeria more than humans need air. Haven't you read the Zulu hierarchy from south Africa running to the S.A embassy in Lagos to intervene on the matter ?

Your economy is on life support machine, an epileptic, Neanderthaloid like you and your irks will use any opportunity to delude yourselves out of reality.

When GlaxoSmithKline, BMW, defaulted in China, they were hammered with hefty fine . These western companies owned up to their misdeeds, paid the fine and tendered unreserved apology to the government and people of China.

We are over 170 million strong with the biggest market in Africa. Welcome to the new hegemony, Zulu.

Don't let your baseless,naive pride get in the way. Believe me the Zulu in charger of mtn is sweating profusely n the _ass as is the south African government.

Stanbic bank has gotten the stick too, DSTV should be next. I can't wait for that 5 billion dollars.

You have now revealed your true colours that you are only targeting SA investment. Remember we didn't ask to be in Nigeria, Jonathan sent delegation team to SA to ask for investment when nobody wanted to do anything with Nigeria. The same SA investors who have created jobs and even offered scholarships to your children. By the way that is lesson leant, not only by SA investment but the whole world.

MTN will never pay!!!

agaugust:
MRAPs are NOT LAVs, can Oryx helicopter carry an MRAP ? The heavy armor of MRAPS makes it's weight double an LAV weight. If you don't know how military equipment are categorized, just ask for free education. Nobody calls IFV and MRAP as LAVs in military circles, get it?

2. REVA MRAP official brochure on website.

3. Show citation to prove South Africa sold T-72 tanks to Algeria....I am waiting.....you see why MTN is paying $5 billion fine? Too much lies, fraud, deception, manipulation, dishonesty comes from you South Africans. Now show me source to prove you sold Tanks to Algeria
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MTN Nigeria employed Nigerians from its board to the CEO and field employees such as engineers, IT technicians et al. They are all Nigerians, your people who are trained from your poor institutions. Is good that you now label them as fraudsters, manipulators, dishonest, etc. It is as well good that you saw how untrustworthy are your people.

mzilakazi:
MTN will never pay you that money even if you ask pastor COLLAPSE to pray for it.

We all know that Nigeria is in financial SOS.

Yes dey won't pay cause mtn will collapse if they do.

At least crime rate will reduce greatly.

iblawi:
Yes dey won't pay cause mtn will collapse if they do.

At least crime rate will reduce greatly.

LOL-Heheheheehe. MTN has more than 260 million subscribers and how will that make it to collapse. Nigerians lack education and I am sorry to be saying that because my other half is Nigerian.

The only people who will collapse is Nigerian government that has 180 million mouths to feed. MTN is business.