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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:56pm On Nov 01, 2015
agaugust:
Bwahaha grin grin

It took you 5 days of sweating daily on random google search to find just one black South African who built something among your dullard 45 million blacks grin grin

Anyway, we are not talking about home backyard inventors, every country has them, from Ghana to Liberia to Zimbabwe.

Hundreds of Nigerians have invented new technology :

http://techpoint.ng/2015/06/18/this-nigerian-radiologist-invented-cancer-seeing-goggles-for-surgeons/

Even our young girls are inventors of new technology :

http://allafrica.com/stories/201308191698.html

Nigeria has such people in hundreds, but that is not the class we are talking of here, we are talking about industrial or commercial products and equipment constructions, fabrications, manufacturing.

Show us real industrial hi-tech equipment that your dullard Southie blacks/coloureds have built since they were born !

Here is a NAF made bomb disposal robot.
Wow!!! That looks like a project we had in our school in some sevens years ago.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:58pm On Nov 01, 2015
Msauza:
LOL-Heheheheehe. MTN has more than 260 million subscribers and how will that make it to collapse. Nigerians lack education and I am sorry to be saying that because my other half is Nigerian.
You are a big liar, Go do the calculation again.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:03pm On Nov 01, 2015
mzilakazi:
MTN will never pay you that money even if you ask pastor COLLAPSE to pray for it.

We all know that Nigeria is in financial SOS.
Bwahahahahaha… It is truly not a secret that Nigerian gov is running out of cash. MTN was certain to be a lamb that needed to be sacrificed and everyone in the world has seen that their decision was predetermined. I head investors have already been warned to keep away from Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:06pm On Nov 01, 2015
iblawi:
You are a big liar, Go do the calculation again.
I heard about this from the news today and that SA government will intervene. It was also said that MTN will leave Naija if the matter is not resolved.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:07pm On Nov 01, 2015
mzilakazi:
You have now revealed your true colours that you are only targeting SA investment. Remember we didn't ask to be in Nigeria, Jonathan sent delegation team to SA to ask for investment when nobody wanted to do anything with Nigeria. The same SA investors who have created jobs and even offered scholarships to your children. By the way that is lesson leant, not only by SA investment but the whole world.

MTN will never pay!!!
Are you weeping already? Your tears are only adding to the flood sweeping Zulu kingdom away.

Believe me, Pretoria will come cap in hands to negotiate with us. China has the west scurrying for deals and investment. Who's to say Nigeria can't do the same in Africa ?

Mtn needn't pay, we shall nationalize it then. If we nationalize British Barkley bank, Kingsway and other top British firms in the 70's to stop apartheid and grant black south Africans a taste of freedom, then we can do much worse to any other firm , especially from a useless competitive and ungrateful country like Zulu kingdom.


Well, Pretoria has already sent in delegation to plead, let's see if we can help .

In the mean time, i'm enjoying the anxiety and euphoria oozing from cape town, Pretoria and jo burg.

The long axiom "when Nigeria sneezes Africa catches cold " is true, South Africa not exempted grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:11pm On Nov 01, 2015
I have just revealed something to prove that sadilleterate Iblawi that MTN has over 240 million subscribers. I quote:

In fact, the company forecasts that its current core markets of South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, Iran, Sudan and Syria, would have an “addressable subscriber base” of 240-million people by 2012.quote closed.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/mtn-mulling-acquisition-prospects-in-south-east-asia-2008-03-19
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:15pm On Nov 01, 2015
lezz:
Are you weeping already? Your tears are only adding to the flood sweeping Zulu kingdom away.

Believe me, Pretoria will come cap in hands to negotiate with us. China has the west scurrying for deals and investment. Who's to say Nigeria can't do the same in Africa ?

Mtn needn't pay, we shall nationalize it then. If we nationalize British Barkley bank, Kingsway and other top British firms in the 70's to stop apartheid and grant black south Africans a taste of freedom, then we can do much worse to any other firm , especially from a useless competitive and ungrateful country like Zulu kingdom.


Well, Pretoria has already sent in delegation to plead, let's see if we can help .

In the mean time, i'm enjoying the anxiety and euphoria oozing from cape town, Pretoria and jo burg.

The long axiom "when Nigeria sneezes Africa catcheps cold " is true, South Africa not exempted grin
Even if MTN loses Nigeria it will be just a drop in an ocean as analysts have detailed it. MTN is as well not in mercy of Naija and can equally play brave.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:25pm On Nov 01, 2015
Msauza:
I have just revealed something to prove that sadilleterate Iblawi that MTN has over 240 million subscribers. I quote:

In fact, the company forecasts that its current core markets of South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, Iran, Sudan and Syria, would have an “addressable subscriber base” of 240-million people by 2012.quote closed.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/mtn-mulling-acquisition-prospects-in-south-east-asia-2008-03-19
Are you a fool to post a forecast for actual numbers. You even went ahead to increase ur own forecast to 260 million subscribers.

If these are the kind of graduates South African Universities are producing then South Africa is in big trouble.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:29pm On Nov 01, 2015
Msauza:
Even if MTN loses Nigeria it will be just a drop in an ocean as analysts have detailed it. MTN is as well not in mercy of Naija and can equally play brave.
Fooooooolllllllll

68 million - 200 million =132 million and a big fool call that a drop in the ocean.

Wait till the ocean become a river.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:31pm On Nov 01, 2015
iblawi:
Are you a fool to post a forecast for actual numbers. You even went ahead to increase ur own forecast to 260 million subscribers.

If these are the kind of graduates South African Universities are producing then South Africa is in big trouble.
This I have just only searched quickly on Google but today it was reported that MTN as in current has over 240 million subscribers base. You fool.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:35pm On Nov 01, 2015
iblawi:
Fooooooolllllllll

68 million - 210 million =142 million and a big fool call that a drop in the ocean.

Wait till the ocean become a river.
I have just found the confirmed reports that it had passed 210 million subscribers last year meaning it has to be around 240 this year.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:40pm On Nov 01, 2015
Msauza:
This I have just only searched quickly on Google but today it was reported that MTN as in current has over 240 million subscribers base. You fool.
https://gsmaintelligence.com/research/2014/09/operator-group-ranking-q2-2014/444/l/

This was last year
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:43pm On Nov 01, 2015
Still there are many SADC countries which still want MTN. Jealousy is what drove MTN out of Nigeria. All areas affected by insurgency, their networks are down and only satellite phone can work in those areas. All calls can still be tracked other than telling me that Nigeria is still in stone age, so there is really no excuse for imposing a that hefty fine. It was something planned beforehand and smells fishy.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:45pm On Nov 01, 2015
iblawi:
https://gsmaintelligence.com/research/2014/09/operator-group-ranking-q2-2014/444/l/

This was last year
Then I tell you today on SA NN7 news it was reported that it has over 240 million customer base. Remember MTN not long ago won a licence in Iran as well.

This one says 210million

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2014/04/mtn-group-records-210-million-subscribers/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:50pm On Nov 01, 2015
Msauza:
Still there are many SADC countries which still want MTN. Jealousy is what drove MTN out of Nigeria. All areas affected by insurgency, their networks are down and only satellite phone can work in those areas. All calls can still be tracked other than telling me that Nigeria is still in stone age, so there is really no excuse for imposing a that hefty fine. It was something planned beforehand and smells fishy.
Stop listening to lies i still called people in maiduguri yesterday you are a big liar.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:02pm On Nov 01, 2015
Patchesagain:
1. LAV = Light Armored Vehical, they all comply with the definition in one way or another.

2. Reva is of the same class as the RG I compared it to. You said it was cheaper than the Chinese vehicle - prove it

3. Who says we dont own them and sell them? Buyer? Algeria grin
reasons why the Saudis and UAE armies are falling...because they keep using MRAP as IFVs.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:29pm On Nov 01, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody:
agaugust:
1. Oryx sling carries 6,000 kg. Cobra weight is 4,800 kg. Yes Oryx will carry a Cobra.

2. Your youtube video boldly say UPGRADE and shows T-72 tank that Algeria purchased from Russia, being many years later upgraded in South Africa. Did you sell the tank to Algeria? Is an upgrade of fire control system same as selling a tank to somebody?

Now you complain when MTN gets fined for deception and manipulation, but ALMOST EVERY South African is fraudulent, now you want to claim falsely that you sell T-72 tanks to Algeria, tanks that were sold by Russia.

Reason why your MTN got into trouble for trying to deceive the Nigerian telecom regulatory authority. Is honesty hated in South Africa?
1. The Cobra weighs 6200kg not 4800kg
2. The Oryx has a max takeoff weight of 8000kg and an empty weight of 3600kg, 8000-3600=? so even if the Cobra did weigh 4800kg the Oryx would still be unable to lift it.
3. Yes we sold them those T72s just like we sold them the Super Hinds......P.S we said we sell tanks, never did we say we manufacture them!!

Lastly I DONT GIVE A FVCK ABOUT MTN........Im at Vodacom anyway!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:36pm On Nov 01, 2015
iblawi:
Stop listening to lies i still called people in maiduguri yesterday you are a big liar.
there are some people you should ignore; people that never listen, people blinded by ignorance, people that 'claimed' mtn revenue in SA exceeds Nigeria's last year on this forum citing bogus sources..

As I argued last year, mtn's exit in nigeria will affect nigeria in the short-term [competitors will mitigate the loss] while mtn will suffer in the long-run.. it's not just about 210 million subscribers, it's about normalizing operations after taking a heavy hit.

www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/mtn-bows-to-pressure-agrees-to-pay-n1-04trn-fine/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:04pm On Nov 01, 2015
iblawi:
You will never know how until we sink them. You guys are too dull to thinking your navy can attack Nigeria just 4 Frigates carrying 15km missiles. And a submarine that can only be submerged for 400nmi.

South African are too dull. You will kept paying us money cos we rule you.
It turns out you are the dull one

Exocet on Valour class has a range of 72km and the Heroin class can be submerged but snorkel for 8000nmi

Clown
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:11pm On Nov 01, 2015
agaugust:
You are just a bag full of fraud and lies. Nobody will buy a REVA MRAP for $1 million you fraud !

CS/VP3 cost is $545,000 http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4741.html

REVA cost is $333,000 Source : SIPRI arms sales log, sales to Thailand 87 units cost only $29 m

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


South Africa
L: Thailand 87 Mamba APC 2007 2008 (87) THB900 m ($29 m) deal; Reva-3 version

Chinese MRAPs cost us almost double the price of South African MRAPs, yet we bought almost 3 times more quantity from the Chinese....Nigeria does not need South African weapons, even though yours is cheaper, we can afford more expensive stuff.

You lose Patches # FVCKING WRECKED LIKE MTN grin grin
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No, the Bigfoot costs double the price of a Reva (our cheapest MRAP)

You cannot afford our other MRAP's - hence why I posted the cost of the RG

This has allways been the argument.

Simple fact of the matter - you cannot afford what we sell
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:12pm On Nov 01, 2015
agaugust:
1. Oryx sling carries 6,000 kg. Cobra weight is 4,800 kg. Yes Oryx will carry a Cobra.

[s]2. Your youtube video boldly say UPGRADE and shows T-72 tank that Algeria purchased from Russia, being many years later upgraded in South Africa. Did you sell the tank to Algeria? Is an upgrade of fire control system same as selling a tank to somebody?

Now you complain when MTN gets fined for deception and manipulation, but ALMOST EVERY South African is fraudulent, now you want to claim falsely that you sell T-72 tanks to Algeria, tanks that were sold by Russia.

Reason why your MTN got into trouble for trying to deceive the Nigerian telecom regulatory authority. Is honesty hated in South Africa[/s]
1. Oryx sling load is 4,500kg - LIAR

2. Provide proof Russia sold the tanks.

This guy - spends all day calling people liars and then comes and tells us lies about our own equipment... what a joke!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody:
mzilakazi:
[/s]

Stock market value fluctuates and always goes up and down; and that's what it does.

Truly, you are a perfect epitome of poor Nigeria's education system. An example of what kind of employees MTN hired there in Nigeria.


MTN has a subscriber base of more than 210 million and that number has swelled ever since. You reduce your 68 million Nigerian based subscribers and MTN remains intact.

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2014/04/mtn-group-records-210-million-subscribers/

The resulting action that will take effect if MTN decides to pack their bags and go will be that your FDI will be badly hurt. Ask experts in that regard.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine

Whatever that I wrote was discussed by experts and they even said that Nigeria is hoping to persecute MTN over their financial woes and that the timing since MTN has to renew their licence next year speaks volume.

GOODBYE ILLITERATE FLAT HEAD.
your so called 'experts' downplayed Nigeria's economy for years before getting the shock of their lives last year, don't play the experts card here bro, face the facts;

firstly, Nigerians are hardworking lots, she has a fantastic economic team [irrespective of defects in edu system], they're celebrated world-wide;

- FDI will remain unchanged, simple! MTN broke the rules, investors interest in the nigerian economy will remain unchanged!..

- Mtn's exit will affect nigeria in the short-term but will be mitigated by Glo, Airtel, Etisalat, visafone, even the newly launched ntel..
you see why we don't mind pulling her license anytime we want! go check what we did to BP

- No, mtn will not remain intact, at least not for a while, they've continued to wire money out of nigeria to service those '210 million subscribers' outside Nigeria thereby avoiding paying appropiate tax to the Nigerian govt. [Nigeria is aware of this BTW]. the way i see it, mtn has a lot to lose, she can only cry about 'the good things she has done'..
www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/192159-investigation-how-mtn-ships-billions-abroad-paying-less-tax-in-nigeria.html

- Nigeria as a whole is under-going a 'restructuring'...just 3 days back, she fined a home grown bank, UBA almost 3 billion in naira over TSA, and they paid! more is coming
www.thisdaylive.com/articles/tsa-cbn-fines-firstbank-uba-n4-82bn-for-concealing-nnpc-funds/223781/

- i think all the 'fines' that have been flying around in effort to ensure efficiency in the telecoms and banking sector, will solidify investors confidence in the economy


i think you're the unexposed, shallow minded xenophobe here..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:20pm On Nov 01, 2015
lezz:
[/s]
[s]
Mtn needs Nigeria more than humans need air. Haven't you read the Zulu hierarchy from south Africa running to the S.A embassy in Lagos to intervene on the matter ?

Your economy is on life support machine, an epileptic, Neanderthaloid like you and your irks will use any opportunity to delude yourselves out of reality.

When GlaxoSmithKline, BMW, defaulted in China, they were hammered with hefty fine . These western companies owned up to their misdeeds, paid the fine and tendered unreserved apology to the government and people of China.

We are over 170 million strong with the biggest market in Africa. Welcome to the new hegemony, Zulu.

Don't let your baseless,naive pride get in the way. Believe me the Zulu in charger of mtn is sweating profusely n the _ass as is the south African government.

Stanbic bank has gotten the stick too, DSTV should be next. I can't wait for that 5 billion dollars.[/s]
Dont feed the troll

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:22pm On Nov 01, 2015
lezz:
[s]Are you weeping already? Your tears are only adding to the flood sweeping Zulu kingdom away.

Believe me, Pretoria will come cap in hands to negotiate with us. China has the west scurrying for deals and investment. Who's to say Nigeria can't do the same in Africa ?

Mtn needn't pay, we shall nationalize it then. If we nationalize British Barkley bank, Kingsway and other top British firms in the 70's to stop apartheid and grant black south Africans a taste of freedom, then we can do much worse to any other firm , especially from a useless competitive and ungrateful country like Zulu kingdom.


Well, Pretoria has already sent in delegation to plead, let's see if we can help .

In the mean time, i'm enjoying the anxiety and euphoria oozing from cape town, Pretoria and jo burg.

The long axiom "when Nigeria sneezes Africa catches cold " is true, South Africa not exempted[/s] grin
Ahh the usual Nigerian delusions of grandeur

A big fish in the tiny west african pond thinks its somehow relevant

Carefull not to take the bait boys

#DontFeedTheTroll

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:24pm On Nov 01, 2015
lionel4power:
reasons why the Saudis and UAE armies are falling...because they keep using MRAP as IFVs.
We dont use MRAP's as IFV's - thats why we have over 1000 IFV's and only 800 MRAP's

Saudi's simply have no idea what they are doing
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m):
Patchesagain:
It turns out you are the dull one

Exocet on Valour class has a range of 72km and the Heroin class can be submerged but snorkel for 8000nmi

Clown
Umkhonto IR has 15km range mumu. We have otomat mk1 with 80km range.

Secondly, snorkeling is different from submerged.
8000nmi snorkel and 400 nmi submerged
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:44am On Nov 02, 2015
iblawi:
Umkhonto IR has 15km range mumu. We have otomat mk1 with 80km range.

Secondly, snorkeling is different from submerged.
8000nmi snorkel and 400 nmi submerged
Umkhonto is SURFACE TO AIR YOU FVCKING RETAR.D


Yes, those are the ranges for the sub, congradulations on getting something right.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 6:37am On Nov 02, 2015
Msauza:
Bwahahahahaha… It is truly not a secret that Nigerian gov is running out of cash. MTN was certain to be a lamb that needed to be sacrificed and everyone in the world has seen that their decision was predetermined. I head investors have already been warned to keep away from Nigeria.
I am sorry sir but were you the one that warned them? Or from where did you hear that? Nigeria remains a better investor friendly destination, not even South Africa with her titled developed economy would enjoy such beautiful romance from foreign investors. See im head like I heard As if say Na im tell them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:42am On Nov 02, 2015
overhypedsteve:
I am sorry sir but were you the one that warned them? Or from where did you hear that? Nigeria remains a better investor friendly destination, not even South Africa with her titled developed economy would enjoy such beautiful romance from foreign investors. See im head like I heard As if say Na im tell them.
South Africa has bigger and better FDI than Nigeria young boy and is not me who warned them I heard it from the news.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 6:45am On Nov 02, 2015
Patchesagain:
Ahh the usual Nigerian delusions of grandeur

A big fish in the tiny west african pond thinks its somehow relevant

Carefull not to take the bait boys

#DontFeedTheTroll
A big fish in the tiny west African pond or the big fish in the west African pond it doesn't really matter. All we ask is that you respect our laws when you do business here.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m):
iterator24:
your so called 'experts' downplayed Nigeria's economy for years before getting the shock of their lives last year, don't play the experts card here bro, face the facts;

firstly, Nigerians are hardworking lots, she has a fantastic economic team [irrespective of defects in edu system], they're celebrated world-wide;

- FDI will remain unchanged, simple! MTN broke the rules, investors interest in the nigerian economy will remain unchanged!..

- Mtn's exit will affect nigeria in the short-term but will be mitigated by Glo, Airtel, Etisalat, visafone, even the newly launched ntel..
you see why we don't mind pulling her license anytime we want! go check what we did to BP

- No, mtn will not remain intact, at least not for a while, they've continued to wire money out of nigeria to service those '210 million subscribers' outside Nigeria thereby avoiding paying appropiate tax to the Nigerian govt. [Nigeria is aware of this BTW]. the way i see it, mtn has a lot to lose, she can only cry about 'the good things she has done'..
www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/192159-investigation-how-mtn-ships-billions-abroad-paying-less-tax-in-nigeria.html

- Nigeria as a whole is under-going a 'restructuring'...just 3 days back, she fined a home grown bank, UBA almost 3 billion in naira over TSA, and they paid! more is coming
www.thisdaylive.com/articles/tsa-cbn-fines-firstbank-uba-n4-82bn-for-concealing-nnpc-funds/223781/

- i think all the 'fines' that have been flying around in effort to ensure efficiency in the telecoms and banking sector, will solidify investors confidence in the economy


i think you're the unexposed, shallow minded xenophobe here..
This is what we call insanity at its best. Do you mean MTN has not been paying taxes in Nigeria?

Transfer pricing is not a tax evasion, hence is not a crime. It is just a business strategy. Just like when you are a billionaire to avoid paying more tax will mean to make donations, sponsoring community projects and prestigious awards; and offer scholarships and bursaries to the needy. MTN has been doing just that by doing something which governments will not do with their money because of chronic corruption. You Nigerians including your journalists don't know how business work.

You are indeed more than the word MAD.
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