₦airaland Forum

Ioannes:
phew. bro, I hope you do better than this at work or school.

first you mentioned the last 16 years right? so which party was in power.

now that most of the actors have left for other parties doesn't mean a thing.

the answer would still be PDP even if PDP had already become a defunct party by the time the question is being asked.

the next logical question would now be:
WHO were those in PDP within that period.

are you trying to say that since they are all in APC now so APC misruled Nigeria for the past 16yrs when the party was just formed last year or thereabout

your logic man

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Tallesty1:
Sometimes I do wonder how obj feels when buhari say in his presence that PDP ruined Nigeria.

Hiploko:
u dey call person dunce. PDP ruled for 16years agreed. So it didn't occur to that your upgraged brain that no party or organization exists without people. PDP as three alphabets/organization is a virtual without people to run it. He has broken down the people who *wrecked* the country and sadly, the same rogues are the ones making noise about in the name of APC( association of past criminals). Now tell us! Whose brain needs total reformatting before upgrade?

IbnSultaan:
For 16 Years, The PDP blamed the 'rot' of military rule
For their inability to perform, yet they want us to forget
their misrule in just 5 months ~ Keyamo

TonyeBarcanista:
I am usually taken aback whenever officers of the present APC administration release statements and interviews to sermonise Nigerians on how PDP administration has destroyed Nigeria for 16years and how they are working on fixing the mess created by PDP.

It is non-contestable that between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015, "PDP"(in quote) occupied the seat of power in Abuja and control majority states in the federation. However, we have to get our fact right with respect to "who destroyed Nigeria between 99 and 2015". I believe we should do a holistic analysis on this subject.

Presidents and Vice Between 1999-2015
Nigeria had three presidents between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, Late Mallam Umaru Yar'adua and Dr Goodluck Jonathan. Of the three, Obasanjo spent eight years in office(1999-2007), Yar'adua three years (May 2007-May 2010) and Dr Jonathan five years (May 2010-May 2015). Obasanjo with highest number of time spent(Eight years) denounced PDP to become APC and Buhari's navigator to office. Similarly, of the three vice presidents between the period, Atiku Abubakar spent the most number of years in office (Eight, 1999-2007). He not only moved to AC/APC while in office in 2006, he also aspired to rule Nigeria on APC platform in 2014 and is a member of APC's Board of Trustees.

Speakers of House of Representative Between 1999-2015
Between 1999 and 2015 Nigeria had six Speakers of Federal House of Representative. There are Salisu Buhari (June -July 1999), Ghali Na'aba(July 1999-June 2003), Aminu Bello Mansari (June 2003-June 2007), Madam Patricia Etteh (June 2007-November 2007), Dimeji Bankole (Nov 2007-June 2011) and Waziri Tambawal(June 2011-June 2015). Of all Six former Speakers, FOUR are members of APC (Na'aba, Mansari, Etteh and Tambawal) with a combined period of TWELVE YEARS in office out of the sixteen years. Mansari and Tambawal are APC Governors of Katsina and Sokoto states respectively.


Prominent Government Officials:
Nasir Elrufai was DG Bureau for Public Enterprise and Secretary of National Council on Privatisation between 1999 and 2003. He later became minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. As DG BPE and Secretary of NCP, he supervised the privatisation of NEPA, NITEL etc..ALL were emershed in controversy. By virtue of his office, Atiku Abubakar was the Chairman of NCP between 1999 and 2007. Both men supervised the privatisation of public companies for the period. They are APC members.

Danjuma Goje, was the minister of state for power between 1999 and 2003. Rabiu Kwankwaso was minister of Defence between 2003 and 2007. Both are members of APC BoT and Senators. Samuel Orthom served as minister of state, trade and investment between 2011 and 2015. Nasir Elrufai was minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. They are now Governors of Benue and Kaduna states respectively. Should we wash all these away?

State Administrations Between 1999-2015:
Between 1999 and 2015, Gombe has had three Governors, Abubakar Hashidu (4years), Danjuma Goje (8years) and Ibrahim Dankwambo(4years). Both Hashidu and Goje are members of APC. That is a combined 12years.

In Kwara state, all governors since 1999 are APC members save late Lawal who ruled under APP.

In Anambra state, ex-Govs Mbadiniju (4years), Nwabuweze Chris Ngige (3years), and Peter Obi(8years) were Governors. Mbadinuju and Ngige are APC members. That is a combined 7years between 1999-2014. PDP Obi held sway for 8 years.

Similarly, in Benue state George Akume was held sway from 1999-2007(and Senator 2007 till date). Is APC chieftain.

All Governors of Osun state between 1999 till date are APC members. Also in Ekiti state, of the 16 years, PDP's Fayose only had four. Otunba Niyi Adebayo(4years), Segun Oni (3 years) and Fayemi (4years) are BoT members of APC.

In Abia state, Uzo Kalu that held sway between 1999 to 2007 is a Chief of APC. APC Govs has been in power in Lagos state all through the period.

In Zamfara state, APC Govs held sway for TWELVE out of the 16years. In Rivers state APC Chieftain Rotimi Amaechi was not only Governor for eight years(of the 16years), he also served as Speaker for the other part of 8years. Plateau state Governor Simon lalong was a Speaker during the Dariye administration. The list is endless.

APC Claim Is Illogical
We can see that between 1999 and May 2015 individuals occupied various political offices, the actions(and inactions) of these office-holders contributed to the decline of the Nigeria and her economy. Majority of these people were at one time or the other indicted for corrupt practices and fraud while in office. Most of these people are members of APC and some appointed into offices. ALL of them combined are responsible for the sorry state of things in Nigeria. We can't forget so soon that it was Saraki and Amaechi(as NGF Chairpersons) that moved for the Sharing and depletion of the Excess Crude Account, which GEJ bowed to between 2007 and 2012. In fact, theyalso pushed for the sharing of One Billion Dollars in Soveriegn Wealth Fund but was resisted by Jonathan. Today, Saraki is not just APC Senator but also the Senate President, while Amaechi is a minister-designate. Can we forget so soon that Audu Ogbeh, a minister-designate and APC Senator Barnabas Germade were PDP National Chairmen between these period. The claim by APC defies logic in every sense.

Finally, the continuous claim by the Buhari administration that "PDP destroyed Nigeria" for sixteen years only shows that the present administration is yet to understand the problem of Nigeria. Worse still, it is an indictment on all those those that held one offices or the other since 1999 especially at federal level. With Buhari having some of these people in his government and other positions of leadership, shows the insincerity of the government and ruling APC. I will advice that Buhari save Nigerians these excuses and focus on the job he was elected to do. PDP is not the name of any official, APC Chieftains have been part of the system.

May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria

Tonye, before you continue massaging your ego with all these your watery analysis which fetches you countless likes from your wailing colleagues, can you kindly also point out to us the period when BUHARI AND OSINBAJO were members of your destruction party?

If you are still unable to see that the CHANGE we talk about is BUHARI himself, then it's a pity.

Activa:
They did it under the umbrella of PDP.
You don't need all this long story to prove this.

Simple.

Bad citizens in Nigeria could be law abiding in England.

People who drive recklessly in Nigeria don't do so in the USA.

The operating environment matters. MTN has also learnt the hard way. Don't do in Nigeria what you won't do in Britain.

Leadership is everything.

Ioannes:
this person na olodo o. chai.

OK slowpoke. let me ask you in a simpler way, which party was in power during the past 16 years when Nigeria was misruled

Activa:
You've hit the nail on the head jare.

Which party was in POWER?

Ioannes:
phew. bro, I hope you do better than this at work or school.

first you mentioned the last 16 years right? so which party was in power.

now that most of the actors have left for other parties doesn't mean a thing.

the answer would still be PDP even if PDP had already become a defunct party by the time the question is being asked.

the next logical question would now be:
WHO were those in PDP within that period.

are you trying to say that since they are all in APC now so APC misruled Nigeria for the past 16yrs when the party was just formed last year or thereabout

your logic man

SLIDEwaxie:
Barcanista, u need a break before you shoot yourself in the foot again. You already caught yourself in the foolishness of your apt stupidity with many illogical and 'karmanic' analysis.

Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store, then you will understand that you have said nothing apart from 'current affairs' while still accepting the fact that PDP's years of misrule destroyed Nigeria.

Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.

IbnSultaan:
PDP GOVERNED NIGERIA AND THE MILKED HER DRY

8unit:
party is never their conscience young man. That conscience lives with them and it's not party that directs their conscience. A thief in PDP Is a thief too in APC.

Ok let me ask u; will you still call GEJ Corrupt If He and his wife now should defect to APC?

Will Chibuike Amaechi still be a saint if He apologises to PDP Now and defect back to them?

Answer me

8unit:
so does that mean nobody will be corrupt in Nigeria now if PDP as a party now is dissolved?

Are u saying now that once they enter APC now they receive a baptism from Tinubu that will emancipate them from their sins?

Does that mean all those former members in APC now weren't part of the dark old days. I need u to lecture me. I'm a political novice

Beremx:
trademark indeed! It doesn't stop him from being your president.

Iranu!

IbnSultaan:
APC not giving excuse for failure by reminding
Nigerians
of the dark years of PDP. It's only indicating the
progress
we're making by comparative analysis ~ Keyamo

IbnSultaan:
acrobatics.

PDP was the ruling party for the past 16years.
you have no justification not to accept that your actions and inactions is responsible for putting us in this quagmire

TonyeBarcanista:
APC Claim Is Illogical
We can see that between 1999 and May 2015 individuals occupied various political offices, the actions(and inactions) of these office-holders contributed to the decline of the Nigeria and her economy. Majority of these people were at one time or the other indicted for corrupt practices and fraud while in office. Most of these people are (NOW) members of APC and some appointed into offices. ALL of them combined are responsible for the sorry state of things in Nigeria. We can't forget so soon that it was Saraki and Amaechi(as NGF Chairpersons) that moved for the Sharing and depletion of the Excess Crude Account, which GEJ bowed to between 2007 and 2012.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria

Now, let me just remind you that you have implicitly accepted that all these PDP members DESTROYED NIGERIA. Good.

But some of them are "now" in APC, right?

That they have "NOW" switched to APC does not "DELETE" their past actions as "Destroyers of Nigeria in the last 16years"!

[size=14pt]Whether President Buhari will allow them to continue to destroy Nigeria or behave in "business as usual" manner,now that they are in Aaah-PHee-Cee, remains to be seen. That is a judgement for the FUTURE.[/size]

But "That PDP destroyed Nigeria", as you have so beautifully showed in your Post, in UNDENIABLE

Thank you for once again, exposing PDP

SLIDEwaxie:
Barcanista, u need a break before you shoot yourself in the foot again. You already caught yourself in the foolishness of your apt stupidity with many illogical and 'karmanic' analysis.

Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store, then you will understand that you have said nothing apart from 'current affairs' while still accepting the fact that PDP's years of misrule destroyed Nigeria.

Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.

Karlovich:
Pastor Barcanista, preach on

SLIDEwaxie:
Barcanista, u need a break before you shoot yourself in the foot again. You already caught yourself in the foolishness of your apt stupidity with many illogical and 'karmanic' analysis.

Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store, then you will understand that you have said nothing apart from 'current affairs' while still accepting the fact that PDP's years of misrule destroyed Nigeria.

Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.

IkennaNweke:
Where are the members of PDP now? Have they become saints because they joined APC?

leofab:
you are a half baked Nigerian; so why is an APC MAN Sariki being charged for crimes he committed as a PDP member ?? So you mean that if GEJ decamps to APC then Weill be exonerated? Or what if PDP changes their name it swap name with APC ?

Now you shoot yourself again!


[size=18pt]Saraki, like other PDP-Crooks, committed these offences when they were in PDP![/size]

That is exactly what Barcanista was saying!

...That a lot of crimes were committed by PDP and its members ... but some of them have now "ran-away" to join APC, being the winning party!

[size=14pt]but it still does not change the fact that in the last 16years, PDP, with its members like Saraki, Atiku, e.t.c DESTROYED NIGERIA[/size].

Nobody will ever give them the chance to repeat it again, the few of them in APC are being dealt with, by #SaiBuhari.


PDP is Dead and Buried forever

coruso:
permit me to ask, is this how an intelligent person respond to issues? If yes ,I will rather remain a fool.

Kennydoc:
Guy, let's just be reasonable, okay.
The mess Nigeria experienced was never about the party in power, but about the crop of politicians we have had as a country.
If it was all about PDP, how come states that have never had PDP governors like Borno, Yobe etc aren't perfect today?
How come there are still fraudulent governors in APC like Rochas, Aregbesola who still can't pay salaries despite collecting bail out from the FG?
Was PDP also responsible for the massive corruption perpetrated by Shehu Shagari's administration between 1979 and 1983, which led to the inglorious ousting of that government executed by Buhari himself?

I know it feels cool for APC members to say that PDP destroyed Nigeria over the past 16years, but knowing that the major actors in those years are currently in APC should make them feel ashamed of themselves too. It wasn't PDP that destroyed Nigeria, but rather members of PDP. If those members are now in APC, then APC shares largely in the guilt.
For instance, it's gross stupidity to transfer the blame for the failures of the FG between 1999 - 2007 on Jonathan, simply because Obj is now in APC. That's what is exactly happening now, cos people think of 16 years of PDP rule, and only GEJ comes to mind. GEJ bears the blame for everything.
It's so bad that even El Rufai, Kwankwaso, Amaechi etc will come and blame PDP for the mess they themselves caused. These guys should be ashamed of themselves.