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Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by PassingShot(m): 9:19am On Nov 03, 2015
It’s unfortunate that politics has made many to become irrational and illogical in their reasoning. This fact is more pronounced on this forum by many members from both sides of the divide (APC & PDP).

I read with astonishment, an attempt by TonyeBarcanista to stand logic on its head with a thread claiming that it’s illogical to say PDP destroyed Nigeria for sixteen years! What an absurdity and irresponsibility!

If any sane human being wants to argue against the fact that it was PDP that destroyed Nigeria for sixteen years, the person will need to at least provide the name of the party that did. It won’t be enough to tell us that some of those in PDP who contributed to ruining Nigeria in those sixteen years have either moved to APC or another party. Anyone who maintains that PDP is not responsible is illogical and is committing fallacy of Ignoratio elenchi (diverting argument to unrelated issues).

What is Logic?
In logic, necessity and sufficiency are implicational relationships between statements. The assertion that one statement is a necessary and sufficient condition of another means that the former statement is true if and only if the latter is true. That is, the two statements must be either simultaneously true or simultaneously false. 
In ordinary English, 'necessary' and 'sufficient' indicate relations between conditions or states of affairs, not statements. Being a male sibling is a necessary and sufficient condition for being a brother. Fred's being a male sibling is necessary and sufficient for the truth of the statement that Fred is a brother.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity_and_sufficiency

Applying the above explanation, it’s no rocket science to understand that if President Obasanjo was in PDP in the eight years he ruled, PDP as a party is responsible for the outcome of his leadership in those eight years. This fact will hold true for eternity even if he changes party ten times thereafter.

From 1999 to 2015, the three presidents we have had in Nigeria (OBJ, Yar’Adua and GEJ) all belonged in PDP throughout their tenure and there is NOTHING anyone can say or do to change the fact that it was PDP that ruled in those years. To conclude otherwise (or attempt to), will only expose the arguer as an illogical, unreasonable and a mischievous entity.

Factors that determine success or failure of a party
The writer of the referenced article failed to consider the following factors that resulted in failure of PDP. Instead, he dwelled ignorantly or mischievously on occurrences (defections) that didn’t have any impact on the fact that those defectors were in PDP when the party ruled for the sixteen years under review.

Party’s Ideology
A party’s philosophy is very important in shaping how the party is perceived by the populace. At a point, PDP was known and addressed as a “killer party” because of the members’ attitude of settling their political scores by assassination of their opponents and foes within. Pa Alfred Rewane, Chief Bola Ige, Funsho Williams, Eyo Eyo, Marshall Harry, Barnabas Igwe and many others were brutally murdered during PDP reign. Not a single of those assassinations has been resolved till date.

Another prominent ideology of PDP is corruption. Whether the party sympathizers online and offline like to hear it or not, PDP took corruption in Nigeria to another level. During OBJ’s regime, it was not uncommon to hear and read how the NASS was bombarded with Ghana-Must-Go bags starched with hard currencies to bribe NASS members to do the biddings of the presidency. We were not kids not to remember how Ken Nnamani, Emwerem, and Okadigbo were all removed through bribing of senate members.

Under PDP there were high profile corruption cases that remain unresolved till date. Pension scam (30 billion naira); Oil Subsidy fraud in which many were arraigned for defrauding the nation of billions of dollars in subsidies they never earned; Nigerian Immigration Scam where many innocent souls were lost and no one was brought to justice; Stella Oduah’s N255m BMW and Kerosene Scam just to mention a few.

Implication of PDP philosophy of political assassination and corruption is that a person with different belief who finds himself in such a party can easily be swayed into taking up the party’s crude and wicked ways of doing things. An example is a case of a PDP senator in 2007 that rejected his share of bribery on three occasions but finally gave in on the fourth occasion when he had become overwhelmed by the incessant approaches by his party to toe the party’s line.

Similarly, a crooked politician can be straightened by the good ideology of his party if he soon discovers that his crude ways have no place in his party’s belief.

Leadership
There is the common saying that when the head is rotten, it affects the whole body. This saying aptly describes the type of leaders we have had in PDP. It is the type of leadership that determines how the followers behave. When PDP politicians knew that OBJ was in the habit of bribing his way in the national assembly, what and who would have stopped them from engaging in their own “lootocracy”?
Whence PDP politicians knew that “stealing was not corruption” under GEJ, and also knew that keeping “the goats and yams” together (the politicians and the treasury) was enough justification for them to loot with reckless abandon, who/what would have stopped them from stealing?

Absence of good leadership from PDP in the sixteen years it ruled is well documented such that no one can wish it away. No amount of articles or campaign can sweep those unfortunate years away from Nigeria’s history and it makes mockery of anyone attempting to re-write the history because Nigerians are largely no fools. Those with short memories will always be reminded at the right time.

Lastly, the corrupt politicians who have moved from PDP to APC cannot now be termed saints. They remain with stains and their corruption cases/allegations still hang on their neck and we hope they are eventually brought to justice. However, what is more important to Nigerians now is how they behave under new leadership and a new party with sane ideologies.

The question is, if PDP is not responsible for ruining Nigeria in the sixteen years it ruled, which party did?

Nigeria shall be great again!

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by BreezyCB(m): 9:20am On Nov 03, 2015
Only God Knows
Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Adaowerri111: 9:20am On Nov 03, 2015
If any sane human being wants to argue against the fact that it was PDP that destroyed Nigeria for sixteen years, the person will need to at least provide the name of the party that did - PassingShot


Tonyebarcanista
Barcanista

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Philistine(m): 9:20am On Nov 03, 2015
Do U mean Peoples Destructive Party(pdp), that party is more of a terrorist group than a Political party.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by PassingShot(m): 9:21am On Nov 03, 2015
Philistine:
U mean Peoples Destructive Party(pdp)
Yes. Also known as Papa Deceiving Pikin.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Stephansmily(f): 9:23am On Nov 03, 2015
angry The worst of all e-rats

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Bugatie(m): 9:25am On Nov 03, 2015
Oga Passingshot advice your party to focus on the business of governance for which they took power.

It's been more than 5 months since APC came to power but you guys still act like you're still in opposition and won't stop blaming PDP for your woes.

5 months into its 4 year tenure and countless companies have folded operations with many sacking and placing it's staff on redundancy. The economic outlook is so bleak and rudderless like a ship without captain and all you guys do is engage in masturbatic rants in the media.

Buhari and APC cannot blame Jonathan/PDP forever!

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:26am On Nov 03, 2015
brother, you are wasting your time. only kids and silly adults would believe the assertion that it is illogical to say that PDP ruined the country. Just pure silliness.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:28am On Nov 03, 2015
Adaowerri111:
If any sane human being wants to argue against the fact that it was PDP that destroyed Nigeria for sixteen years, the person will need to at least provide the name of the party that did - Passingshot
A tanoid on reading this will either
a. scream 'dullard, ' zombie', 'amaechi', 'apc is a scam'
or
b. tell us it was the North.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by PassingShot(m): 9:28am On Nov 03, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
brother, you are wasting your time. only kids and silly adults would believe the assertion that it is illogical to say that PDP ruined the country. Just pure silliness.
We owe a dutyto educate the ignorant ones here.

Let them provide us the name of the party that did if not PDP.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by NgeneUkwenu(f): 9:29am On Nov 03, 2015
cool

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:30am On Nov 03, 2015
Atleast tonyebarcanista agreed Nigeria is in ruins though he was vigorously campaigning for us to continue on that path by voting Gej in the last election

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by iwantto(m): 9:31am On Nov 03, 2015
perfect summation, no argument at all.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Rawani: 9:31am On Nov 03, 2015
Well researched and factual. Just an addition;

Impunity.

Impunity means "exemption from punishment or loss or escape from fines".

The PDP was synonymous with impunity as could be seen by the complete disregard for the rule of law, as demonstrated in the cases of:

- the refusal to investigate the Ekitigate crisis,

- refusal to penalize Oritsejafor and co for the failed arms deal,

- initial refusal to release the NNPC audit report,

- refusal to investigate political murders,

- flagrant abuse of state instruments for electoral benefit,

- failure to investigate OBJ's $16bn power scam,

- failure to investigate and prosecute the Immigration jobs scam/disaster among many others.


The culture of the PDP was that of corruption, impunity and lawlessness which gradually and consistently destroyed Nigeria over 16 years of its misrule and it is a travesty of logic to blame anyone else for their disastrous failure.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:32am On Nov 03, 2015
PassingShot:

We owe a dutyto educate the ignorant ones here.
Let them provide us the name of the party that did if not PDP.
In your words, this thread alone is 'necessary and sufficient' to prove that Pastor TB Ansita is a very dangerous individual.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by HARDDON: 9:32am On Nov 03, 2015
Party is faceless, individuals makes party. And we all knw where the major players back den, belong now.

How can u put new wine in an old bottle and thereafter go into d streets waving broom sticks shouting change?

Split hairs from now till morrow, fact remains, the old hags are hanging on, striving to remain relevant, not untill dey all die,we mourn them for a week n restructure, change wud remains elusive

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by neolboy(m): 9:33am On Nov 03, 2015
we don hear. pls wake me up when there are better news
Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 03, 2015
IyaIode:
Atleast tonyebarcanista agreed Nigeria is in ruins though he was vigorously campaigning for us to continue on that path by voting Gej in the last election

you forget that argument that Gej tried to fight the 'cabal', so they switched camp to Apc, and with the tools of propaganda and lies, caused him to lose an election.
Arguments like these and many others only serve as proof that most tanoids on this forum are either intellectually deficit or absolute morons.
All one needs to do is create a thread that plays to theri biases and they will follow like sheep.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Adaowerri111: 9:36am On Nov 03, 2015
sonOfLucifer:

A tanoid on reading this will either
a. scream 'dullard, ' zombie', 'amaechi', 'apc is a scam'
or
b. tell us it was the North.

This your handle self, we are waiting for Barcanista or tonyebarcanista .... we need answers sha

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by themilanway(m): 9:37am On Nov 03, 2015
You and IBNsultan shouldn't have dignify him with a rejoinder,its a waste of precious time and energy.

Even Abati would have been ashamed to write that poo.These days I don't disturb myself with trying to reason with his stupidity and hypocrisy.I already know he will still decamp to another party in no distance time.

How do you take someone who claimed OBJ is now a card carrying member serious?

How do you take some one who claimed PDP is the best thing to have happened to Nigeria after slice bread serious?

How do you take some one who is justifying how PDP while in power ran the country and economy seriousYet want you

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:37am On Nov 03, 2015
Adaowerri111:


This your handle self, we are waiting for Barcanista or tonyebarcanista .... we need answers sha
lol Adaowerri111 kedu? gini mega? cheesy
Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by helinues: 9:37am On Nov 03, 2015
If a company collapsed due to fraudulent in the organisation, who will them blame? The workers or the manager?

@ op, do not mind the political bigotry who have lose their senses when making analyis

Function of a political party

A political party is defined as an organised group of people with at least roughly similar political aims and opinions, that seeks to influence public policy by getting its candidates elected to public office.

Parties tend to be deeply and durably entrenched in specific substructures of society in a sustainable and well functioning democracy. They can link the governmental institutions to the elements of the civil society in a free and fair society and are regarded as necessary for the functioning any modern democratic political system.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by dunkem21(m): 9:38am On Nov 03, 2015
Guys are sounding broken grin

Is that the reason why there is no light ..
..and queue everywhere in service stations ..


..even common Benson is now N15 grin

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Nobody: 9:42am On Nov 03, 2015
Who is PDP? Where does PDP reside? What tribe is PDP?

If the op can provide the answers to the above questions, I assure him that I'll personally catch PDP and deal so severely with it for the ruins of the last 16 years. In fact, anybody way take him korokoro EYES see PDP should let me know

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Adaowerri111: 9:42am On Nov 03, 2015
sonOfLucifer:

lol Adaowerri111 kedu? gini mega? cheesy

Odimma, Nwa Lucifer ujo na tum
Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Firefire(m): 9:42am On Nov 03, 2015
APC members and their myopic ways of reasoning. cheesy


See weeping to the gods....

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by themilanway(m): 9:43am On Nov 03, 2015
You and IBNsultan shouldn't have dignify him with a rejoinder,its a waste of precious time and energy.

Even Abati would have been ashamed to write that poo.These days I don't disturb myself with trying to reason with his stupidity and hypocrisy.I already know he will still decamp to another party in no distance time.

How do you take someone who claimed OBJ is now a card carrying member serious?

How do you take some one who claimed PDP is the best thing to have happened to Nigeria after slice bread serious?

How do you take some one who is justifying how PDP while in power ran the country and economy serious,yet want you to believe PDP decieve a pat on the back while APC should and must be scorned on.

Funny enough,they will be the first to wail about how dire the economy is or how epileptic power supply has been.

Its about time you guys realize he is a very dangerous and unreliable human being.

He can sell his mum for a plate of porridge,that's how horrible he is.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by BushidoBlue(m): 9:44am On Nov 03, 2015
I agree with you


But



The old PDP is the new APC


F tards
grin grin grin

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Firefire(m): 9:44am On Nov 03, 2015
Sincere9gerian:
Who is PDP? Where does PDP reside? What tribe

I laugh in Efik... grin

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Firefire(m): 9:46am On Nov 03, 2015
Bugatie:
Oga Passingshot advice your party to focus on the business of governance for which they took power.

It's been more than 5 months since APC came to power but you guys still act like you're still in opposition and won't stop blaming PDP for your woes.

5 months into its 4 year tenure and countless companies have folded operations with many sacking and placing it's staff on redundancy. The economic outlook is so bleak and rudderless like a ship without captain and all you guys do is engage in masturbatic rants in the media.


APC is the new ruling / opposition party in town.

They won the election by propaganda, and also planning to govern with propaganda.

APC, Party of professional liars and career propagandist.

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by Stephansmily(f): 9:47am On Nov 03, 2015
Philistine:
Do U mean Peoples Destructive Party(pdp), that party is more of a terrorist group than a Political party.

Hypocrisy is when you call PDP a terrorist group and you worship APC..the party of Shekau.

Ever wondered why they keep putting up fake videos of the defeat of boko haram? grincheesy

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Re: Claim that PDP Responsible for 16 Years Of Ruins - Very Logical by PassingShot(m): 9:48am On Nov 03, 2015
themilanway:
You and IBNsultan shouldn't have dignify him with a rejoinder,its a waste of precious time and energy.

Even Abati would have been ashamed to write that poo.These days I don't disturb myself with trying to reason with his stupidity and hypocrisy.I already know he will still decamp to another party in no distance time.

How do you take someone who claimed OBJ is now a card carrying member serious?

How do you take some one who claimed PDP is the best thing to have happened to Nigeria after slice bread serious?

How do you take some one who is justifying how PDP while in power ran the country and economy serious,yet want you to believe PDP decieve a pat on the back while APC should and must be scorned on.

Funny enough,they will be the first to wail about how dire the economy is or how epileptic power supply has been.

Its about time you guys realize he is a very dangerous and unreliable human being.

He can sell his mum for a plate of porridge,that's how horrible he is.
I didn't know there was a rejoinder by IbnSultan. If I knew, I wouldn't do this. However, he needs to be educated on logic, philosophy and fallacies.

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