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Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by 49cents(m): 4:11am On Nov 03, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
Barcanista, u need a break before you shoot yourself in the foot again. You already caught yourself in the foolishness of your apt stupidity with many illogical and 'karmanic' analysis.

Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store, then you will understand that you have said nothing apart from 'current affairs' while still accepting the fact that PDP's years of misrule destroyed Nigeria.

Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.
You could have made ur point without insults

That someone doesn't share your political view point doesn't mean you should start boiling with hate when they express themselves
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by aresa: 4:16am On Nov 03, 2015
richeso:
[b]Because everything about GEJ was more or less screen-played, from the first day he start till he was pushed out was all about hate, propaganda, [/b]chibok girls, boko haram, ebola all this element was used against him because they never wanted him there, they ( the corrupt chiefs, elites, members who are now in the APC and few still remaining in the PDP being used as elements ) Frustrated every attempt he made positively. when you think him to face 1 and 2, they bring 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 on him to distract him. nothing he did was meaningful to anyone, that is what they wanted us to see. He realized this just too late to make corrections.

Protests here and there that we did not see anymore since he left. all the good things he did for the north, yet the north is the highest number of votes against him. this is to tell you there is a system in the gov. even buhari knows those he steps on their toes.

you focus more on party name and president forgetting that the gov has a system, chiefs, elites, members of party, senate, state house of assembly etc and 80% of this people are the main masterminds of corrupt practice, even the courts/judges, efcc, cct, any other bullshit are all well paid to make sure everything turns down down for GEJ. we will not be calling PDP a bad gov if GEJ was a Northerner or Westerner. till date we raise insult and names on GEJ as if he rules Nigeria for 16yrs. where is OBJ today? which party is he ? should i now trust that party with all confidence of change as you expected me too?

concluding.. i put it to you that APC members are not saints if you or whoever barr is name-calling pdp because its same Obi in Obinna.
Excusing GEJ's worthlessness and incompetence per not jailing corrupt officials because of propaganda, powerful forces and other nonsense is stale and overplayed, it's redundant and pathetic.

Of what use is a president with all the armed forces, powers and institutions at his disposal and still scared of mare individuals?

And you wonder why Nigerians sent him back to his village...
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by Nicklaus(m): 4:31am On Nov 03, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
Barcanista, u need a break before you shoot yourself in the foot again. You already caught yourself in the foolishness of your apt stupidity with many illogical and 'karmanic' analysis.

Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store, then you will understand that you have said nothing apart from 'current affairs' while still accepting the fact that PDP's years of misrule destroyed Nigeria.

Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.
I think you are the one who needs to upgrade your brain on play store for quick processing... So you can find your way around the point he is making here. He didn't disagree with which party had been ruling... And if you aren't such a DIMWIT you ll see that the same ones who constituted the most part of those years succeeded in worming their ways into the so called anti corruption administration.


So tell me...who exactly should be blamed nowhuh


One who spent an inherited 5yrs or the one who spent 8yrs out of the 16yrs

Would you like to think, or would you rather be a TWIT huh
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by chukwunaluodili(m): 4:43am On Nov 03, 2015
......my question is which party was at the helm of affairs at the center? Is it not PDP?
Moresoo your argument is baseless, because the sucess of any political party is its manifesto and lay down rules that govern its members to do the right thing, which is where PDP got it all wrong,and not the people that constitute a party. That is why a lawless Nigerian that misbehave here in Nigeria, will suddenly turn into law abiding when he or she goes out the shores of Nigeria where the system and laydown procedures are working.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by danwa25(m): 5:10am On Nov 03, 2015
Point of correction @OPS obasanjo neva joined APC. Secondly Atiku only moved away from PDP in 2005. Lastly, the fact will remain in million of years to come that PDP did not only misrule NIGERIA but they also irresponsibly, incompetently and dishonestly managed and rep her.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by TonyeBarcanista(op): 5:12am On Nov 03, 2015
ExInferis:
Serves them right. I've never seen a more directionless people as the igbos. They just blindly follow any armchair revolutionary who has it in for Northerners, without any care for tact or payoff.

This gonzo zombie lured them in with anti APC rants, and they swore fealty conveniently forgetting that he too was once APC.

Hey TonyeBarcanista, you seem to suggest the failure of PDP carries over to the APC since the principal actors have decamped. if past misdeeds follow one who cross carpets, does it also mean you share the supposed evils of the APC you daily highlight given you were once an APC member?
No sir! I haven't held any public office at any time.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by zubizareta(m): 5:25am On Nov 03, 2015
I just love the way the OP gives his facts.. We all know Pdp ruled for 16years as Nigeria was destroyed but it will be so stupid for Buhari to be making that statement when those influential pdp members that misruled Nigeria are currently on his side running the affairs of this country..

What baffles me is the amount of stupid Nigerians we have here that are insulting the OP without having to counter the threads with points just as the OP did.

I wish Buhari would one day in his meetings with Obj, Atiku, Amechi and ask them how come pdp misruled Nigeria when they were in power
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by zubizareta(m): 5:29am On Nov 03, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
Barcanista, u need a break before you shoot yourself in the foot again. You already caught yourself in the foolishness of your apt stupidity with many illogical and 'karmanic' analysis.

Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store, then you will understand that you have said nothing apart from 'current affairs' while still accepting the fact that PDP's years of misrule destroyed Nigeria.

Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.
Guy you really need to take a break.. Many Nigerians are just too daft. You think it's by rushing to front page and getting likes from other daft ppl implies you made a point. If you read well, all the questions you asked were discussed in details by the OP.

But you wouldn't understand because you were in a hurry to attack the OP as usual.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by olutunde12(m): 5:34am On Nov 03, 2015
IbnSultaan:
acrobatics.

PDP was the ruling party for the past 16years.
you have no justification not to accept that your actions and inactions is responsible for putting us in this quagmire
Another lie mohammed. Was it PDP that ruled or those people listed? Then where has PDP put you? As far as I am concerned pdp has not put nigeria anywhere. Nigeria has never been better since i could hear and think as a baby. So, wake up.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by sammhi(m): 5:35am On Nov 03, 2015
Tonye , you too much ..wish to meet you in person. wish most nigerians can reason like you do most times but many are blinded by party Toga forgetting that nigerians are the cause of nigeria problem not party/
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by TonyeBarcanista(op): 5:39am On Nov 03, 2015
ishiamu:
This one wey everybody dey gv u dia sister no need to gv u mine cos ya hand don full
Walahi I won't mind o. grin
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by ikkkkk: 5:39am On Nov 03, 2015
Thumbs up Tonye for this magnificent Post.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by olutunde12(m): 5:40am On Nov 03, 2015
danwa25:
Point of correction @OPS obasanjo neva joined APC. Secondly Atiku only moved away from PDP in 2005. Lastly, the fact will remain in million of years to come that PDP did not only misrule NIGERIA but they also irresponsibly, incompetently and dishonestly managed and rep her.
Before you start avoiding the real issues, tell bababubu school children are still expecting their food, one naira is farther from equaring one dollar than he met it, graduates are expecting their five thousand as well as old people etc.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by Dannie2015(m): 5:40am On Nov 03, 2015
Sometimes, I wonder how our youth reason. No wonder d old men continue to rule ds country at d expense of D oneS they refer To as fUture generation. I wonder wen dat future will com. PDP iS but a party name made up. Of humans. Hw can our youth not see things d logicaL way anyway? D same set of PEOPLE - I meann HUMANS who distroyed ds country for d said 16yrS are d ones parading themselves as saints simply because they answer a new nomenclature-APC. We need change of pple. New ideas not d ones dat led ds country to where we've found ourselves today. Honestly I feel So much for ds country, d youth especially.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by aresa: 5:46am On Nov 03, 2015
Fellow Nigerians, the PDP never ruled or misruled Nigeria, it was all our collective imagination and bad dreams...


And they saw nothing wrong and they didn't cry, scream , yell or jail the same former PDP people they are labeling corrupt today when they had the chance and opportunity with all the crime fighting instruments of government at their disposal to do so under PDP, but they did not because the were all saints under the PDP and no longer saints because they joined the APC.. grin

See how daft and rretarded minds functions? grin

Shows how crooked, rretarded and mentally corrupt these losers are... grin

They come up with the most idiotic, daft and unintelligent assertions ever... grin
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by Emyogalanya: 5:46am On Nov 03, 2015
IbnSultaan:
For 16 Years, The PDP blamed the 'rot' of military rule
For their inability to perform, yet they want us to forget
their misrule in just 5 months ~ Keyamo
can you just quote an occasion were pdp blamed military for thier inability to perform
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by Demolinhoooo(m): 6:02am On Nov 03, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
I am usually taken aback whenever officers of the present APC administration release statements and interviews to sermonise Nigerians on how PDP administration has destroyed Nigeria for 16years and how they are working on fixing the mess created by PDP.

It is non-contestable that between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015, "PDP"(in quote) occupied the seat of power in Abuja and control majority states in the federation. However, we have to get our fact right with respect to "who destroyed Nigeria between 99 and 2015". I believe we should do a holistic analysis on this subject.

Presidents and Vice Between 1999-2015
Nigeria had three presidents between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, Late Mallam Umaru Yar'adua and Dr Goodluck Jonathan. Of the three, Obasanjo spent eight years in office(1999-2007), Yar'adua three years (May 2007-May 2010) and Dr Jonathan five years (May 2010-May 2015). Obasanjo with highest number of time spent(Eight years) denounced PDP to become APC and Buhari's navigator to office. Similarly, of the three vice presidents between the period, Atiku Abubakar spent the most number of years in office (Eight, 1999-2007). He not only moved to AC/APC while in office in 2006, he also aspired to rule Nigeria on APC platform in 2014 and is a member of APC's Board of Trustees.

Speakers of House of Representative Between 1999-2015
Between 1999 and 2015 Nigeria had six Speakers of Federal House of Representative. There are Salisu Buhari (June -July 1999), Ghali Na'aba(July 1999-June 2003), Aminu Bello Mansari (June 2003-June 2007), Madam Patricia Etteh (June 2007-November 2007), Dimeji Bankole (Nov 2007-June 2011) and Waziri Tambawal(June 2011-June 2015). Of all Six former Speakers, FOUR are members of APC (Na'aba, Mansari, Etteh and Tambawal) with a combined period of TWELVE YEARS in office out of the sixteen years. Mansari and Tambawal are APC Governors of Katsina and Sokoto states respectively.


Prominent Government Officials:
Nasir Elrufai was DG Bureau for Public Enterprise and Secretary of National Council on Privatisation between 1999 and 2003. He later became minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. As DG BPE and Secretary of NCP, he supervised the privatisation of NEPA, NITEL etc..ALL were emershed in controversy. By virtue of his office, Atiku Abubakar was the Chairman of NCP between 1999 and 2007. Both men supervised the privatisation of public companies for the period. They are APC members.

Danjuma Goje, was the minister of state for power between 1999 and 2003. Rabiu Kwankwaso was minister of Defence between 2003 and 2007. Both are members of APC BoT and Senators. Samuel Orthom served as minister of state, trade and investment between 2011 and 2015. Nasir Elrufai was minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. They are now Governors of Benue and Kaduna states respectively. Should we wash all these away?

State Administrations Between 1999-2015:
Between 1999 and 2015, Gombe has had three Governors, Abubakar Hashidu (4years), Danjuma Goje (8years) and Ibrahim Dankwambo(4years). Both Hashidu and Goje are members of APC. That is a combined 12years.

In Kwara state, all governors since 1999 are APC members save late Lawal who ruled under APP.

In Anambra state, ex-Govs Mbadiniju (4years), Nwabuweze Chris Ngige (3years), and Peter Obi(8years) were Governors. Mbadinuju and Ngige are APC members. That is a combined 7years between 1999-2014. PDP Obi held sway for 8 years.

Similarly, in Benue state George Akume was held sway from 1999-2007(and Senator 2007 till date). Is APC chieftain.

All Governors of Osun state between 1999 till date are APC members. Also in Ekiti state, of the 16 years, PDP's Fayose only had four. Otunba Niyi Adebayo(4years), Segun Oni (3 years) and Fayemi (4years) are BoT members of APC.

In Abia state, Uzo Kalu that held sway between 1999 to 2007 is a Chief of APC. APC Govs has been in power in Lagos state all through the period.

In Zamfara state, APC Govs held sway for TWELVE out of the 16years. In Rivers state APC Chieftain Rotimi Amaechi was not only Governor for eight years(of the 16years), he also served as Speaker for the other part of 8years. Plateau state Governor Simon lalong was a Speaker during the Dariye administration. The list is endless.

APC Claim Is Illogical
We can see that between 1999 and May 2015 individuals occupied various political offices, the actions(and inactions) of these office-holders contributed to the decline of the Nigeria and her economy. Majority of these people were at one time or the other indicted for corrupt practices and fraud while in office. Most of these people are members of APC and some appointed into offices. ALL of them combined are responsible for the sorry state of things in Nigeria. We can't forget so soon that it was Saraki and Amaechi(as NGF Chairpersons) that moved for the Sharing and depletion of the Excess Crude Account, which GEJ bowed to between 2007 and 2012. In fact, theyalso pushed for the sharing of One Billion Dollars in Soveriegn Wealth Fund but was resisted by Jonathan. Today, Saraki is not just APC Senator but also the Senate President, while Amaechi is a minister-designate. Can we forget so soon that Audu Ogbeh, a minister-designate and APC Senator Barnabas Germade were PDP National Chairmen between these period. The claim by APC defies logic in every sense.

Finally, the continuous claim by the Buhari administration that "PDP destroyed Nigeria" for sixteen years only shows that the present administration is yet to understand the problem of Nigeria. Worse still, it is an indictment on all those those that held one offices or the other since 1999 especially at federal level. With Buhari having some of these people in his government and other positions of leadership, shows the insincerity of the government and ruling APC. I will advice that Buhari save Nigerians these excuses and focus on the job he was elected to do. PDP is not the name of any official, APC Chieftains have been part of the system.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria
Young Man
This arguement is a Tautology.....

U ll have to re-register Mat 203.
Signed- Baba Kenya (Prof)
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by smuth(m): 6:05am On Nov 03, 2015
IbnSultaan:
acrobatics.

PDP was the ruling party for the past 16years.
you have no justification not to accept that your actions and inactions is responsible for putting us in this quagmire
[size=13pt]Did you read the post? If you do and still don't get it then you are irredeemably daft?[/size]
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by Emyogalanya: 6:08am On Nov 03, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
Now, if u will upgrade to a new version of brain on play store
Dude, these are the questions for u:

1. Which party has been ruling since 16yrs?

2. What is the responsibility of the president?

3. Who is to blame?


Of course, I expected u to write one of your unreasonable and vaccumed-filled epistles just to answer three questions that should take more than 10 words.

You are dunce: I wonder why your followers haven't haven't figured that out!

Of course, I knw...jes gotta say I didn't.
1 parties are platforms from where individuals get to power op is saying these individuals
2 ask buhari
3 you and i
4 if pdp is to be blamed why not sue d party and leave the individuals i.e pdp party should be afraid of the consequences of its actions(not the individuals) in one word jail pdp as a party and leave its current members cos if you talk of members they full apc
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by ihatesycophant(m): 6:13am On Nov 03, 2015
You goofed by saying OBJ and Orji Uzor Kanu are members of APC. I would like to ask you, did OBJ declare that he was joining any political party when he torn PDP's card? The answer is NO. He even declare that he was now a statesman rather than been patisan. Giving support to APC does not amount to being in APC, there are many people that gave PDP support even from other political parties, does that amount that they are now in PDP? Uzor Kanu, never said he has defecting to APC, he even had primary election for senatorial district under PDP and also supported GEJ presidency publicly during 2015 elections. For you coming out now to tell us he's a member of APC is ridiculous.
Well, reeling out names of people that had held sway under PDP does not take away the failure of the PDP. I vividly remember in the late 2013 t0 2014, the house of Reps passed alot of resolutions about the state of the nation and what the executive could do and even told GEJ that under his watch corruption has eaten deep but instead what did he do to them, he was looking for ways to impeach Tanbuwal. Alison Madueke and Stella Oduah were called by House of Reps but they all declined the invitation and one even went to court for injunction to stop her probe. The next week GEJ came to TV to say the House of Reps cannot be intimidating his ministers on a frivolous and unfounded issues. Now who should we blame? Is it those doing their oversight functions but not giving chance by those the buck stops at their table? These are critical issues that this writer never put into perspective. Barcanista need to know that the buck stops at the table of the President. Nothing anyone can do without the know of the President. During the reign of OBJ, OBJ never shielded any of his minister or anyone working with him even state governors, anyone of them with issue of corruption were pushed into the net of EFCC but what we saw in the last dispensation was to the contrary. You may say it was a selective approach but at lease we saw that EFCC was in operation during his time and were able to track down high profile cases, Tafa Balogun, Alameseigha, James Ibori, Salisu Buhari and many more.
I only agreed with you that the new government should as a matter of urgency stop all the complain and nose poking and tackle the mess because people of Nigeria voted him to solve problems, if there is no problem we would not have needed him to mount the seat. Buhari government need to talk less and face the task ahead because no time to mess around but time for hard work and serious rebirth of our nation.
Again, we need not to also sky away from the current state of our nation and not tell ourselves what we weigh as a nation than lying to ourselves what we are not as they made us to understand during GEJ tenure. This will help individuals to brace up for the period of hard times than being expectant and at the long run experience failed promises. Today I find it so difficult to believe that our economy is the best in Africa because there is no corresponding effect on the lives of citizenry of the nation. I also find it laughable that investors are trouping into Nigeria because where is the corresponding effect in the labour market (at least the unemployment rate should have reduced drastically) and market force (price of goods are at the high side till date). These are lies and many we were told and still dealing with us till date by the last administration.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by smuth(m): 6:18am On Nov 03, 2015
[size=13pt]If as a youth you finish reading this post and still don't get it then you can never be wise. Period.

This young man listed all the facts for the world to see...if someone calls black white to you it is your responsibility to use your God given common sense to know it is black and not white, Politicians continue to fool our youth because they chose to be fooled and enjoy being foolish.
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Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by Nobody: 6:25am On Nov 03, 2015
aresa:
Saraki is not the only high profile politician undergoing prosecution so what's your point?


Again, explain to us why GEJ and his crime fighting agencies didn't jail the so called corrupt former PDP now APC members if they really were corrupt..?
you're not being objective...who said saraki is the only Politician undergoing prosecutionhuhdunno where u heard that...definitely not from me...


Have answered your question before.....same reason why Apc members are shielded from any form of prosecution
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by wexyee: 6:29am On Nov 03, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
I am usually taken aback whenever officers of the present APC administration release statements and interviews to sermonise Nigerians on how PDP administration has destroyed Nigeria for 16years and how they are working on fixing the mess created by PDP.

It is non-contestable that between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015, "PDP"(in quote) occupied the seat of power in Abuja and control majority states in the federation. However, we have to get our fact right with respect to "who destroyed Nigeria between 99 and 2015". I believe we should do a holistic analysis on this subject.

Presidents and Vice Between 1999-2015
Nigeria had three presidents between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, Late Mallam Umaru Yar'adua and Dr Goodluck Jonathan. Of the three, Obasanjo spent eight years in office(1999-2007), Yar'adua three years (May 2007-May 2010) and Dr Jonathan five years (May 2010-May 2015). Obasanjo with highest number of time spent(Eight years) denounced PDP to become APC and Buhari's navigator to office. Similarly, of the three vice presidents between the period, Atiku Abubakar spent the most number of years in office (Eight, 1999-2007). He not only moved to AC/APC while in office in 2006, he also aspired to rule Nigeria on APC platform in 2014 and is a member of APC's Board of Trustees.

Speakers of House of Representative Between 1999-2015
Between 1999 and 2015 Nigeria had six Speakers of Federal House of Representative. There are Salisu Buhari (June -July 1999), Ghali Na'aba(July 1999-June 2003), Aminu Bello Mansari (June 2003-June 2007), Madam Patricia Etteh (June 2007-November 2007), Dimeji Bankole (Nov 2007-June 2011) and Waziri Tambawal(June 2011-June 2015). Of all Six former Speakers, FOUR are members of APC (Na'aba, Mansari, Etteh and Tambawal) with a combined period of TWELVE YEARS in office out of the sixteen years. Mansari and Tambawal are APC Governors of Katsina and Sokoto states respectively.


Prominent Government Officials:
Nasir Elrufai was DG Bureau for Public Enterprise and Secretary of National Council on Privatisation between 1999 and 2003. He later became minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. As DG BPE and Secretary of NCP, he supervised the privatisation of NEPA, NITEL etc..ALL were emershed in controversy. By virtue of his office, Atiku Abubakar was the Chairman of NCP between 1999 and 2007. Both men supervised the privatisation of public companies for the period. They are APC members.

Danjuma Goje, was the minister of state for power between 1999 and 2003. Rabiu Kwankwaso was minister of Defence between 2003 and 2007. Both are members of APC BoT and Senators. Samuel Orthom served as minister of state, trade and investment between 2011 and 2015. Nasir Elrufai was minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. They are now Governors of Benue and Kaduna states respectively. Should we wash all these away?

State Administrations Between 1999-2015:
Between 1999 and 2015, Gombe has had three Governors, Abubakar Hashidu (4years), Danjuma Goje (8years) and Ibrahim Dankwambo(4years). Both Hashidu and Goje are members of APC. That is a combined 12years.

In Kwara state, all governors since 1999 are APC members save late Lawal who ruled under APP.

In Anambra state, ex-Govs Mbadiniju (4years), Nwabuweze Chris Ngige (3years), and Peter Obi(8years) were Governors. Mbadinuju and Ngige are APC members. That is a combined 7years between 1999-2014. PDP Obi held sway for 8 years.

Similarly, in Benue state George Akume was held sway from 1999-2007(and Senator 2007 till date). Is APC chieftain.

All Governors of Osun state between 1999 till date are APC members. Also in Ekiti state, of the 16 years, PDP's Fayose only had four. Otunba Niyi Adebayo(4years), Segun Oni (3 years) and Fayemi (4years) are BoT members of APC.

In Abia state, Uzo Kalu that held sway between 1999 to 2007 is a Chief of APC. APC Govs has been in power in Lagos state all through the period.

In Zamfara state, APC Govs held sway for TWELVE out of the 16years. In Rivers state APC Chieftain Rotimi Amaechi was not only Governor for eight years(of the 16years), he also served as Speaker for the other part of 8years. Plateau state Governor Simon lalong was a Speaker during the Dariye administration. The list is endless.

APC Claim Is Illogical
We can see that between 1999 and May 2015 individuals occupied various political offices, the actions(and inactions) of these office-holders contributed to the decline of the Nigeria and her economy. Majority of these people were at one time or the other indicted for corrupt practices and fraud while in office. Most of these people are members of APC and some appointed into offices. ALL of them combined are responsible for the sorry state of things in Nigeria. We can't forget so soon that it was Saraki and Amaechi(as NGF Chairpersons) that moved for the Sharing and depletion of the Excess Crude Account, which GEJ bowed to between 2007 and 2012. In fact, theyalso pushed for the sharing of One Billion Dollars in Soveriegn Wealth Fund but was resisted by Jonathan. Today, Saraki is not just APC Senator but also the Senate President, while Amaechi is a minister-designate. Can we forget so soon that Audu Ogbeh, a minister-designate and APC Senator Barnabas Germade were PDP National Chairmen between these period. The claim by APC defies logic in every sense.

Finally, the continuous claim by the Buhari administration that "PDP destroyed Nigeria" for sixteen years only shows that the present administration is yet to understand the problem of Nigeria. Worse still, it is an indictment on all those those that held one offices or the other since 1999 especially at federal level. With Buhari having some of these people in his government and other positions of leadership, shows the insincerity of the government and ruling APC. I will advice that Buhari save Nigerians these excuses and focus on the job he was elected to do. PDP is not the name of any official, APC Chieftains have been part of the system.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria
barcanista this ur game is not working anymore.. and about obj even god forgives a sinner if he or she is willing to repent. And let me tell u the damage goodluck did to nigeria in 5 yrs obj can not achive it in 20 yrs.. Qoute me any where
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by 989900: 6:30am On Nov 03, 2015
Can someone explain what party manifesto means again?
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by wexyee: 6:31am On Nov 03, 2015
Activa:
They did it under the umbrella of PDP.
You don't need all this long story to prove this.

Simple.

Bad citizens in Nigeria could be law abiding in England.

People who drive recklessly in Nigeria don't do so in the USA.

The operating environment matters. MTN has also learnt the hard way. Don't do in Nigeria what you won't do in Britain. Barcanista u see wat I'm trying to say

Leadership is everything.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by michaelwilli(m): 6:33am On Nov 03, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
I am usually taken aback whenever officers of the present APC administration release statements and interviews to sermonise Nigerians on how PDP administration has destroyed Nigeria for 16years and how they are working on fixing the mess created by PDP.

It is non-contestable that between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015, "PDP"(in quote) occupied the seat of power in Abuja and control majority states in the federation. However, we have to get our fact right with respect to "who destroyed Nigeria between 99 and 2015". I believe we should do a holistic analysis on this subject.

Presidents and Vice Between 1999-2015
Nigeria had three presidents between May 29, 1999 and May 29, 2015. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, Late Mallam Umaru Yar'adua and Dr Goodluck Jonathan. Of the three, Obasanjo spent eight years in office(1999-2007), Yar'adua three years (May 2007-May 2010) and Dr Jonathan five years (May 2010-May 2015). Obasanjo with highest number of time spent(Eight years) denounced PDP to become APC and Buhari's navigator to office. Similarly, of the three vice presidents between the period, Atiku Abubakar spent the most number of years in office (Eight, 1999-2007). He not only moved to AC/APC while in office in 2006, he also aspired to rule Nigeria on APC platform in 2014 and is a member of APC's Board of Trustees.

Speakers of House of Representative Between 1999-2015
Between 1999 and 2015 Nigeria had six Speakers of Federal House of Representative. There are Salisu Buhari (June -July 1999), Ghali Na'aba(July 1999-June 2003), Aminu Bello Mansari (June 2003-June 2007), Madam Patricia Etteh (June 2007-November 2007), Dimeji Bankole (Nov 2007-June 2011) and Waziri Tambawal(June 2011-June 2015). Of all Six former Speakers, FOUR are members of APC (Na'aba, Mansari, Etteh and Tambawal) with a combined period of TWELVE YEARS in office out of the sixteen years. Mansari and Tambawal are APC Governors of Katsina and Sokoto states respectively.


Prominent Government Officials:
Nasir Elrufai was DG Bureau for Public Enterprise and Secretary of National Council on Privatisation between 1999 and 2003. He later became minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. As DG BPE and Secretary of NCP, he supervised the privatisation of NEPA, NITEL etc..ALL were emershed in controversy. By virtue of his office, Atiku Abubakar was the Chairman of NCP between 1999 and 2007. Both men supervised the privatisation of public companies for the period. They are APC members.

Danjuma Goje, was the minister of state for power between 1999 and 2003. Rabiu Kwankwaso was minister of Defence between 2003 and 2007. Both are members of APC BoT and Senators. Samuel Orthom served as minister of state, trade and investment between 2011 and 2015. Nasir Elrufai was minister of FCT between 2003 and 2007. They are now Governors of Benue and Kaduna states respectively. Should we wash all these away?

State Administrations Between 1999-2015:
Between 1999 and 2015, Gombe has had three Governors, Abubakar Hashidu (4years), Danjuma Goje (8years) and Ibrahim Dankwambo(4years). Both Hashidu and Goje are members of APC. That is a combined 12years.

In Kwara state, all governors since 1999 are APC members save late Lawal who ruled under APP.

In Anambra state, ex-Govs Mbadiniju (4years), Nwabuweze Chris Ngige (3years), and Peter Obi(8years) were Governors. Mbadinuju and Ngige are APC members. That is a combined 7years between 1999-2014. PDP Obi held sway for 8 years.

Similarly, in Benue state George Akume was held sway from 1999-2007(and Senator 2007 till date). Is APC chieftain.

All Governors of Osun state between 1999 till date are APC members. Also in Ekiti state, of the 16 years, PDP's Fayose only had four. Otunba Niyi Adebayo(4years), Segun Oni (3 years) and Fayemi (4years) are BoT members of APC.

In Abia state, Uzo Kalu that held sway between 1999 to 2007 is a Chief of APC. APC Govs has been in power in Lagos state all through the period.

In Zamfara state, APC Govs held sway for TWELVE out of the 16years. In Rivers state APC Chieftain Rotimi Amaechi was not only Governor for eight years(of the 16years), he also served as Speaker for the other part of 8years. Plateau state Governor Simon lalong was a Speaker during the Dariye administration. The list is endless.

APC Claim Is Illogical
We can see that between 1999 and May 2015 individuals occupied various political offices, the actions(and inactions) of these office-holders contributed to the decline of the Nigeria and her economy. Majority of these people were at one time or the other indicted for corrupt practices and fraud while in office. Most of these people are members of APC and some appointed into offices. ALL of them combined are responsible for the sorry state of things in Nigeria. We can't forget so soon that it was Saraki and Amaechi(as NGF Chairpersons) that moved for the Sharing and depletion of the Excess Crude Account, which GEJ bowed to between 2007 and 2012. In fact, theyalso pushed for the sharing of One Billion Dollars in Soveriegn Wealth Fund but was resisted by Jonathan. Today, Saraki is not just APC Senator but also the Senate President, while Amaechi is a minister-designate. Can we forget so soon that Audu Ogbeh, a minister-designate and APC Senator Barnabas Germade were PDP National Chairmen between these period. The claim by APC defies logic in every sense.

Finally, the continuous claim by the Buhari administration that "PDP destroyed Nigeria" for sixteen years only shows that the present administration is yet to understand the problem of Nigeria. Worse still, it is an indictment on all those those that held one offices or the other since 1999 especially at federal level. With Buhari having some of these people in his government and other positions of leadership, shows the insincerity of the government and ruling APC. I will advice that Buhari save Nigerians these excuses and focus on the job he was elected to do. PDP is not the name of any official, APC Chieftains have been part of the system.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria
Has anyone told you how irrelevant you are. You think you making sense but there's excess folly in here. In the last 16 years that Nigeria was misruled, what was the ruling party?
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by philips70(m): 6:38am On Nov 03, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
This would have made sense IF the players in APC were non-actors during PDP era. Nobody bears PDP as a name. It defies logic when the same group move to another platform to claim "fresh".
This is the main reason I have been asking you guys to CHANGE that name PDP if you really want to rebrand and people take you serious. The curse is in that name and as long as you guys continue to operate with it, impunity, looting, maiming and Wikeing/killing will not depart from the party. Tell yourself the truth, that party is cursed and God has destroyed it in totality.

In truth Barca, if you don't know that there's an ideological precedence in a party which attracts people to that party then you still have much to learn about party politics in Nigeria. There are things you will be able to do freely in a party which you will not even contemplate in others.
If this your LAMB TALES FROM SHAKESPEARE is to tell us PDP and APC are the same, or APC destroyed this country in 16yrs, you failed woefully. Change Party now or you guys who hope to revive that rotten egg should change her name and be ready to endure hardship for a while. If the mentality is still to grab money as quickly as you can which is the overall mentality of the PDP then you going nowhere.
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by smuth(m):
ihatesycophant:
You goofed by saying OBJ and Orji Uzor Kanu are members of APC. I would like to ask you, did OBJ declare that he was joining any political party when he torn PDP's card? The answer is NO. He even declare that he was now a statesman rather than been patisan. Giving support to APC does not amount to being in APC, there are many people that gave PDP support even from other political parties, does that amount that they are now in PDP? Uzor Kanu, never said he has defecting to APC, he even had primary election for senatorial district under PDP and also supported GEJ presidency publicly during 2015 elections. For you coming out now to tell us he's a member of APC is ridiculous.
Well, reeling out names of people that had held sway under PDP does not take away the failure of the PDP. I vividly remember in the late 2013 t0 2014, the house of Reps passed alot of resolutions about the state of the nation and what the executive could do and even told GEJ that under his watch corruption has eaten deep but instead what did he do to them, he was looking for ways to impeach Tanbuwal. Alison Madueke and Stella Oduah were called by House of Reps but they all declined the invitation and one even went to court for injunction to stop her probe. The next week GEJ came to TV to say the House of Reps cannot be intimidating his ministers on a frivolous and unfounded issues. Now who should we blame? Is it those doing their oversight functions but not giving chance by those the buck stops at their table? These are critical issues that this writer never put into perspective. Barcanista need to know that the buck stops at the table of the President. Nothing anyone can do without the know of the President. During the reign of OBJ, OBJ never shielded any of his minister or anyone working with him even state governors, anyone of them with issue of corruption were pushed into the net of EFCC but what we saw in the last dispensation was to the contrary. You may say it was a selective approach but at lease we saw that EFCC was in operation during his time and were able to track down high profile cases, Tafa Balogun, Alameseigha, James Ibori, Salisu Buhari and many more.
I only agreed with you that the new government should as a matter of urgency stop all the complain and nose poking and tackle the mess because people of Nigeria voted him to solve problems, if there is no problem we would not have needed him to mount the seat. Buhari government need to talk less and face the task ahead because no time to mess around but time for hard work and serious rebirth of our nation.
Again, we need not to also sky away from the current state of our nation and not tell ourselves what we weigh as a nation than lying to ourselves what we are not as they made us to understand during GEJ tenure. This will help individuals to brace up for the period of hard times than being expectant and at the long run experience failed promises. Today I find it so difficult to believe that our economy is the best in Africa because there is no corresponding effect on the lives of citizenry of the nation. I also find it laughable that investors are trouping into Nigeria because where is the corresponding effect in the labour market (at least the unemployment rate should have reduced drastically) and market force (price of goods are at the high side till date). These are lies and many we were told and still dealing with us till date by the last administration.
[size=13pt]It appears his point is too big for you to digest or your brain is too small to understand the logic, let me help your situation with a simple analogy.

Take a bottle of coke, pour it in a bottle of fanta, now drink from that bottle of fanta. Will the taste of that drink change to fanta? A change of bottle will not change the taste.

Now picture this, suppose Goodluck Jonathan that you hate so much now change his party to join APC will you still count him as the PDP that destroyed Nigeria for 16 years?

PDP is just a party name just like any other party name. If APC truly want to practice the change that they preach then no former PDP member should be allowed to join APC in the first place. A thief will remain a thief even if he changes is home address.
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Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by 0taPiaPia(m): 6:42am On Nov 03, 2015
Ioannes:
phew. bro, I hope you do better than this at work or school.

first you mentioned the last 16 years right? so which party was in power.

now that most of the actors have left for other parties doesn't mean a thing.

the answer would still be PDP even if PDP had already become a defunct party by the time the question is being asked.

the next logical question would now be:
WHO were those in PDP within that period.

are you trying to say that since they are all in APC now so APC misruled Nigeria for the past 16yrs when the party was just formed last year or thereabouthuh

your logic manhuh
If u go the logic way "yes"... But the Op is still right with rather a different approach.... its still logic to me explained by a poster in page zero using chemistry analogy... cheers.. cool
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by aresa: 6:45am On Nov 03, 2015
BADNEAT:
you're not being objective...who said saraki is the only Politician undergoing prosecutionhuhdunno where u heard that...definitely not from me...


Have answered your question before.....same reason why Apc members are shielded from any form of prosecution
Why not just explain to us who they are shielding and how they are shielding them and while you at it, list their verifiable crimes instead of the empty talk..
Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by smuth(m): 6:50am On Nov 03, 2015
[size=13pt]To those of you who still can't understand this logic, here is a simple analogy to buttress his point.

Take a bottle of coke, pour it in a bottle of fanta, now drink from that bottle of fanta. Will the taste of that drink change to fanta? A change of bottle will not change the taste.

Now picture this, suppose Goodluck Jonathan that you hate so much now change his party to join APC will you still count him as the PDP that destroyed Nigeria for 16 years?

PDP is just a party name just like any other party name. If APC truly want to practice the change that they preach then no former PDP member should be allowed to join APC in the first place. A thief will remain a thief even if he changes is home address.

If you still don't understand this logic then i am afraid you are irredeemably daft.
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Re: Why It Is Illogical To Claim That 'PDP' Destroyed Nigeria For Sixteen Years by PRYCE(m): 6:52am On Nov 03, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
No sir! I haven't held any public office at any time.
Wow Wow Wow! This write Up is borderline genius!
Woah! More Knowledge bro!

Lemme read the comments!
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