trapQ:
Very tragic and inhumane, even animals are better off.

O.p you're intentionally trying to bash Christianity. this isn't a Christian thing so you didnt need to involve Christianity here. Abrahamic laws are dead and gone. Name one christian country in which this has happened?? huh?

you brought up a story of Mohammad and how he commanded that two adulterers be stoned to death but failed to relate it with the story of JESUS and the adulterous woman. Christianity doesn't support killing. the bible says THOU SHALL NOT KILL, there were no conditions attached to this.

trapQ:
says the atheist. you should just stick with the "there's no God" thing. You shouldn't say what you don't know. whenever you hear "Deuteronomy", what comes to your mind first??

Mind you, I'm not defending, God can defend himself. I'm only stating an obvious fact.

johnydon22:
[b]

Hahahahaha is this another way of begging me to leave your religions alone when the only thing i do is refute, argue and debunk most of it's disturbing ideas and myths passed as truth.

These are ideas are being poured out on the public and i am also part of this public so don't expect me to keep shut when the public of which i am part of is being rubbed with absurd ideas, No i would speak up.

We all know the effects of such disturbing beliefs the Op is number one. . . Maybe if the religionist will quite pouring their beliefs and myths and threats on the Public then you wouldn't have members of this public like myself who will refute these ideas.

If you really find me a threat to your beliefs simply by my words Mmm speaks a lot about insecurities in such beliefs that it begs to be shielded from argument, scrutiny and questions..

But if you really want me to stop why not beg me or better still pray for me to stop. . am sure prayer works unless of course you doubt if prayers works.

So pray for me to stop [/b]

johnydon22:
[b]

Hahahahaha is this another way of begging me to leave your religions alone when the only thing i do is refute, argue and debunk most of it's disturbing ideas and myths passed as truth.

These are ideas are being poured out on the public and i am also part of this public so don't expect me to keep shut when the public of which i am part of is being rubbed with absurd ideas, No i would speak up.

We all know the effects of such disturbing beliefs the Op is number one. . . Maybe if the religionist will quite pouring their beliefs and myths and threats on the Public then you wouldn't have members of this public like myself who will refute these ideas.

If you really find me a threat to your beliefs simply by my words Mmm speaks a lot about insecurities in such beliefs that it begs to be shielded from argument, scrutiny and questions..

But if you really want me to stop why not beg me or better still pray for me to stop. . am sure prayer works unless of course you doubt if prayers works.

So pray for me to stop [/b]

macof:


Its in your bible. . Whether you choose to practice it or not. As long as you profess the same God of the jews to be your god

So conditions? Yet David was a killer, so was Moses who issued that law

CltrAltDelicious:

He should simply ask his god to ban you from nairaland shikena instead of whining about it

neocortex:


The truth be told, if the stoning of alleged adulterers was not sanctioned
by the the bible , prophet muhamed won't have a source to copy from,
so the bible is guilty by initiation.

plappville:


Pray for you to stop ke? Common! you are not a threat to anyone. Just accept when you are wrong sometimes. You are an atheist. I just wonder how something that u call fake. Yet you find yourself enjoying discussing it.

I am not in anyway wrong here because it is a societal right to discuss societal tenets on a positive and negative scale depending on it's tilt.

These are ideas and ideas are meant to be discussed and once it has an effect on our society it shouldn't be overlooked.

Like i said above let me say it again so you can comprehend..

"This ideas are poured out on the public And i am part of this public don't expect me to keep shut when the public of which i am part of is being rubbed with outright absurdity. "

I am apolitical but yet i discuss political ideas in their positive or negative effects on th society.

You see as long as there are people who wish to pour out such disturbing lethal mythologies to the public as truth, there will always be members of this public who know these to be untrue claims that will speak up and refute these ideas.

The best you could do is start enjoying it with me and stop complaining

Please don't derail this thread, lets keep it about Islam shall we

plappville:


And Jesus ?? His disciples??

CltrAltDelicious:

He should simply ask his god to ban you from nairaland shikena instead of whining about it

plappville:


Abok.i u missed it. I never asked him to stop. It was an advise. Because he always says people don't understand him.

macof:


I don't think so, Arabs have had very similar traditions to the Hebrews, it might not take the bible for Mohammad to include all those nonsense in islam

johnydon22:
[b]

I am not in anyway wrong here because it is a societal right to discuss societal tenets on a positive and negative scale depending on it's tilt.

These are ideas and ideas are meant to be discussed and once it has an effect on our society it shouldn't be overlooked.

Like i said above let me say it again so you can comprehend..

"This ideas are poured out on the public And i am part of this public don't expect me to keep shut when the public of which i am part of is being rubbed with outright absurdity. "

I am apolitical but yet i discuss political ideas in their positive or negative effects on th society.

You see as long as there are people who wish to pour out such disturbing lethal mythologies to the public as truth, there will always be members of this public who know these to be untrue claims that will speak up and refute these ideas.

The best you could do is start enjoying it with me and stop complaining

Please don't derail this thread, lets keep it about Islam shall we [/b]

macof:


And what about them? Were they not jews?

If they found themselves in the position David, Moses found themselves

what's to say jesus or at least his disciples wouldn't have killed?

CltrAltDelicious:

Ar u pained? Pele I was only giving u an advice too

plappville:


To the BOLD: John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted himself up, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her

Jesus know none of them were without sin. Imagin the people who killed this woman. They too are sinners but because some hid in sinning does not make them more righteous than others. I think Jesus message here is very clear. Man is without sin. He came to pass this message but the Pharisees ejected him.only the few accpted him.

omonnakoda:

My mother will die like a pig in an open field

plappville:

parisbookaddict:
My mother will die like a pig

dalaman:


Jesus did not put an end to stoning, in fact he castigated and criticized the people for refusing to obey the law which states that they are to stone to death their disobedient children,

the Jews stopped stoning their kids to death as a defiance to the law of their God. They had stopped stoning their disobedient kids during the time of Jesus.

Now their morality has surpassed that of their God, the OT remains their religious book but they do not carry out any of it's injunctions because they see it as barbaric. Go to Israel and talk about an eye for and eye and see how you'll be arrested. Hard line literalist Jews are viewed as crazy people there in Israel.

Muslims need to reform Islam or else they won't be able to survive in the future.

Many muslims are leaving Islam but the apostasy laws that exist in majority of the muslim countries is what is stopping ex muslims from coming out. Studies have shown that there are about the same amount of atheist in Saudi Arabia as there are in the United States of America percentage wise and radical Islamic terrorism and the Ultra conservative clerics and their disposition to violence against people that do not share their beliefs or opinions were listed among what is making them leave Islam. Atheism is really on the rise in the Arab world but because you will be killed if you talk about it, most of them are hush about it. In Saudi Arabia atheism has been ranked as terrorism and is punished with death, but it is rising. In places like Iran the percentage of atheist is actually quite high, but because people stand to lose their lives when they openly display their unbelief they all keep quite and pretend.

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/12/atheism_explodes_in_saudi_arabia_where_just_talking_about_atheism_is_illegal_partner/

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/24/atheism-on-the-rise-in-the-arab-world/

omonnakoda:
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here is Your quote (which u have falsely edited the parisbookaddict moniker like the muslims often do)..and an advice..

[quote author=omonnakoda post=39660290]
My mother will die like a pig in an open field

macof:


I don't think so, Arabs have had very similar traditions to the Hebrews, it might not take the bible for Mohammad to include all those nonsense in islam

Demmzy15:

Demmzy15:

dalaman:


Noted, but the same Jesus criticized the Pharisees and called them hypocrites for abandoning what the scripture tells them to do with regards to stoning to death their kids and changing the law with their traditions.


Matthew 15 -1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.] 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules

HomoSapiien:


Muhammed, is this all you've got to say? Is this truly how islam looks like?

Terrible

dalaman:

plappville:


Dont forget that, if Jesus was not to fulfilled the law. He could have authorised them to stone the woman to death. But he didnt. He knows this laws will be fulfilled by him. He is a Jews. He lived under the law but never did He kill or support killing. When Peter chuped off the army's ear, Jesus picked it up and placed it back and told Peter. He who kill by the sword will die by it. This is the Church he has built. Forgiveness and Love. Man no longer has the right to condemn his fellow man to death as it used to be in the OT.

macof:


Its in your bible. . Whether you choose to practice it or not. As long as you profess the same God of the jews to be your god

So conditions? Yet David was a killer, so was Moses who issued that law

trapQ:
If you've read the bible before, you'd know better.

JESUS christ "abolished" those laws, and even commanded us to turn the right cheek, when slapped in the left. Jesus christ is our "only" standard in christianity. A christian is someone who is christ like. Jesus christ didn't kill nobody, but rather gave up himself to be killed for our transgressions.

the jews aren't christians, and as such whatever they practice is not my business. They do not believe in jesus christ so they aren't christians.