₦airaland Forum

mach7:
Madam, I am not referring to an article on the Vietnam War - Wikipedia can help me with that. Secondly, there is nothing personal about my comments. I am not a Russian, and have never been to Russia. The fact that I oppose your opinions on Russia doesn't make it personal (except you feel that way). Thirdly, the war journals aren't mine. I have made an assertion, and the onus is on you to disprove my assertion as I am not here to lecture you. Go back and read about America's military tactics in desert one.

Ciao

Missy89:
You said there was no documentary detailing american loses in Vietnam. I posted you one. You said most Iraqi tanks in 73 easting and Medina ridge were destroyed with aircrafts and not Abrams. I asked for prove you said i should disprove it. How can i disprove a statement that is not backed up with facts or evidence? isn't that tantamount to meaningless back and forth and endless argument?

I dont care if you have a different opinion. As long as you are armed with your version of the facts and not the same line i keep getting here which is " go and do your research" or " stop reading and watching propaganda".

angiography:
Tell us why urz has not been a propaganda??... seems ure bent on forcing your opinion on others?

Missy89:
Yeah. I broke your head and inserted my version of events inside it through the internet

Missy89:
Yeah. I broke your head and inserted my version of events inside it through the internet

angiography:
Now that's not how to have a reasonable argument, lady...c'mon

Missy89:
lol. accusations and arguments are two different things.

How can I force my opinion on others on a forum when i am not the moderator or banning members from posting what they feel like?

angiography:
Uhm...don't lemme derail the intention of this thread...I just pointed out the way you summarily opined that the other person's submission is a "propaganda"

Missy89:
You see why you shouldn't jump into discussions you dont understand?. I never said anyone was posting propaganda. That was the accusation leveled against me!

Peace!

mazeltov:
My brother you have said it all. In fact, I stopped arguing on military matters on nairaland when someone from no where started comparing USS Nimitz carrier with speed boat and I was just dumbfounded

teemy:
and this whole thread started because a US military officer was trying to justify increased arms funding with russian long range cruise missiles no one knew existed and performed better than the known best and fearing what else russia was hiding.

mazeltov:
no, apart from the topic, some dumb fellows started thinking that Russia is superior to america and versa

speedyGonzales:
Money doesn't win wars? that is quite a dumb thing to say, especially for none conventional wars... I think you need the research man!


"To wage war, you need first of all money; second, you need money, and third, you also need money" — Prince Montecuccoli

“History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.” — Ronald Reagan

Appleyard:
To '' wage '' war you need money, but to '' WIN '' war is not by MONEY. The US was and still is 50 times richer than Vietnam, but they could not win the Vietnam war. Rather, they lost embarrasingly. The formal Soviet Union was far richer and stronger than Afghanistan, but their wealth couldn't help them in the face of defeat.
My brother, there are lots of factors that determine who wins a war, especially one on a larger scale, and money is the least of them all. Talk about, to an extent, weather, strategy, allies, then will power/collectivism, and of course, the greatest of them all, '' the cosmic orderliness of events. ''
If the second to the last is absent, and the last determinant is against you, you will never win anything, even if you can print money like the federal reserve.

speedyGonzales:
US didn't lose the war on the battlefield man, the lost the war at home, because the American public became against the war and asked the US Govt. to withdraw from the war. And Vietnam also had home advantage, were US soldiers had to adapt to...

Appleyard:
US lost the war big time on the battle field, and the public back home rose against it because body bags of over 50 thousands were returned home for burial.

mazeltov:
[b]The Vietnam War was a long, costly armed conflict that pitted the communist regime of North Vietnam and its southern allies,
known as the Viet Cong, against South Vietnam and its principal ally, the United States. The war began in 1954 (though conflict in the region stretched back to the
mid-1940s), after the rise to power of Ho Chi Minh and his communist Viet Minh party in
North Vietnam, and continued against the backdrop of an intense Cold War between two global superpowers which are the United States and the Soviet Union. More than 3 million people including 58,000 Americans were killed in the Vietnam War; more than half
were Vietnamese civilians. In a related research which reveals that about 195,000 - 430,000 Vietnaman civilians were killed and about 220,357 - 313,000 vietnamn soldiers were lost while United state lost about 58,000 military and 303,644 were wounded.
By 1969, at the peak of U.S. involvement in the war, more
than 500,000 U.S. military personnel were involved in the Vietnam conflict. PLEASE NOTE: While growing opposition to the viet war in the United States led to bitter divisions among Americans, both before and after President Richard Nixon ordered the withdrawal of U.S. forces
in 1973. In 1975, communist forces seized control of Saigon, ending the Vietnam War. I know many people are ignorant of this and they keep saying that America lost the war - No America didn't lose thw war and with this little analysis, it is high time people stopped saying that United state lost the war. Despote the fact that countries like Russia and Chine supported the opposition yet the war was won but lost at home [united state] because some top-dogs in United were not in support of this war.

Tkester:
Pentagon Expert Says Russians Would ‘Annihilate’ US Army on Battlefield





Just for the mofos talking trash. A former USA colonel, and a war veteran confirming the ruskies capabilities.
Yet some people like CSTR, Miss89, Mazeltov, etc. who haven't been within 1000 miles radii of a military barracks will be running their mouths and talking arrant trash.

Tkester:
Mr man shut the hell up. U.S. Lost the war big time, even John McCain attested to it.

Shymm3x:
Appleyard

What do you think about ISIS claiming the Russian plane crash?

In as much as I think it has CIA/MOSSAD written all over but this might be beginning of the end of Saudi Arabia and Russia will definitely strike back. I guess that is why they are not saying anything.

speedyGonzales:
hahaha! US withdrew from the battle because of protests at home against the war! and the is the famous photo of the little Vietnam girl naked and crying that shocked the american public and led to calls to withdraw from the war! but whatever floats your boat man, anything you want to say to justify your point I guess!

Appleyard:
US lost the war big time on the battle field, and the public back home rose against it because body bags of over 50 thousands were returned home for burial.

Appleyard:
Dear sir, i think its too early to jump to conclusions. I support Egypt denouncing the IS Claim on the ground that they do not possess the capability to hit th plane at such high altitude, but the possibility that the plane may have been downed by an external force, is very high, given the distance covered by the wreckage on the ground. Now that IS is out of the question (except the job was done from the inside,) the question now hangs, who did it? This is where, i dare say, your suspicion is well founded. The only culpable culprits therefore are Russia's sworn enemies particularly as it relate to Syria, and the commander in-chief is the United state of Anarchy in bed with Satan-Arabia. This might just be the much anticipated false flag cum reprisal attack against Russia, but then we may just have to wait for the conclusion of ungoin investigation. However, one thing is certain: if this was an attack, Moscow will strike back, and woe betide Riyadd if her hands are stained, not after offering cheap gas to Poland to undermine Russia. If you have anyone in the MidEast, tell him to leave now, that place is waiting to explode.

Appleyard:
But be it known to you that the primary reason why US left Vietnam was due to public outcry, and the primary reason why the public cried out was because America fought a senseless war where alot of their sons over 50 thousand died.

mazeltov:
yes over 50 thousand died but have you ever stopped to ask yourself how many Vietnam civilians were killed not to even mention the numbers of Viet soldiers that lost their lives? Well he is not saying Us soldiers didn't die- his point his America didn't lose Viet war even if you don't know the truth, he has told you and I don't expect people like you to be twisting and manipulating facts just because you want to feign ignorance over records.

dinachi:
Backward russia? Are you kidding me? Remove your head from Obamas arse right now! You have eaten enough shit already!

ayindejimmy:
Apart from weapons if mass destruction, what else can Russia boast of?
In...
-Sport
-entertainment
-ICT
America has an edge over them.
So, America has more to lose than Russia