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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 12:03am On Nov 12, 2015
EgunMogaji:


Not for every home but for brand new or renovated commercial buildings with includes rentals like condos, townhomes, duplexes, etc Single family homes can roast themselves as they won't affect another family home grin Seems they actually included single family home.

We don't have a tank where I live now so it's pressure from the mains. I've lived here for about 4 years now and no test has ever been done though I see the pressure gauge is always in the green zone.

http://www.firesprinklerinitiative.org/legislation/sprinkler-requirements-by-state.aspx

"California: Effective January 1, 2011, the California Building Standards Commission approved the State Fire Marshal's Building, Fire and Residential Code adoption packages for the 2010 California Building Standards Codes, including its requirements for residential fire sprinklers in all new one-and two-family dwellings and townhome construc­tion statewide. More about fire sprinkler codes in California. - See more at: http://www.firesprinklerinitiative.org/legislation/sprinkler-requirements-by-state.aspx#sthash.GsS3hAtw.dpuf"

Another great example of a government system that works in protecting it's citizens instead of just stealing monies and showing it in foreign accounts.
My brother tell me about it, can U imagine I bought a fire extinguisher, thought I was protect,i went to the village me and wife sat in car just to chat for 5 mins B4 we meet Dad and Mum, one little boy shouted at us bross bross ur car is on fire,na so I carry fire extinguisher we confidence tell wife stand back spray guess waht nothing happened,it was like a dream.Lucky 4 me,we had sharp sand and it was wet, so we dulled the flam ,I later found out it was due to the new fog light I installed and the wiring was not done properly by the electrician and the heat made it to go in flame.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:26am On Nov 12, 2015
erico2k2:

NO test? hmm how do you guys know its going to work if there is real fire? eheh ours have smoke and fire alarms, one mesures heat and bleep the other sense smoke and bleep, in those homes you described up there which are not single family homes the alarms and hard wired to a central boz which is connected directly to the fire station.You cannot reset these until the fire brigade says so.SOme idiots alwasy know how to brake the red glass do after heavy saturday nights grin grin grin

About test/safety: Bro you know where we live now grin If you use first grade equipments, certified fire inspectors to oversee the installation (not some quack that can be bribed for N10,000) have first grade gauges then you don't really need to inspect. I'm sure they drive by and look at the huge pressure gauge on the street and if that's in the green then the system is armed.

An unrelated example, gas and electric companies don't have to make site visit anymore, they can read the meters from their offices and some even use bluetooth devices from their cars as they drive by to read meters.

Technology Bro.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:29am On Nov 12, 2015
erico2k2:

My brother tell me about it, can U imagine I bought a fire extinguisher, thought I was protect,i went to the village me and wife sat in car just to chat for 5 mins B4 we meet Dad and Mum, one little boy shouted at us bross bross ur car is on fire,na so I carry fire extinguisher we confidence tell wife stand back spray guess waht nothing happened,it was like a dream.Lucky 4 me,we had sharp sand and it was wet, so we dulled the flam ,I later found out it was due to the new fog light I installed and the wiring was not done properly by the electrician and the heat made it to go in flame.

So I'll be shipping every single fire extinguisher for the house from either the UK or US.

Even though I won't pipe the house for fire sprinklers there will be two dedicated high volume fire hoses that will be connected to the EWT directly.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:46am On Nov 12, 2015
erico2k2:

My brother tell me about it, can U imagine I bought a fire extinguisher, thought I was protect,i went to the village me and wife sat in car just to chat for 5 mins B4 we meet Dad and Mum, one little boy shouted at us bross bross ur car is on fire,na so I carry fire extinguisher we confidence tell wife stand back spray guess waht nothing happened,it was like a dream.Lucky 4 me,we had sharp sand and it was wet, so we dulled the flam ,I later found out it was due to the new fog light I installed and the wiring was not done properly by the electrician and the heat made it to go in flame.

Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 7:24am On Nov 12, 2015
3strike:
How much is 30 tons of Stone /granite dust to Ogombo Ajah?


To Ogombo sir, we will give u 133k for a full 30tons of 3/4 down granite and 87k for a very good quarry stone dust.

NB: Sir, u would be the person to clear or pay for d suppliers association and the omo onile at ur gate sir and dis 2 shouldn't be more Dan 4k.

Why did we ask u to clear it in ursef?
From the thread u av for dis ur project sir which I think we are following, we want to believe it's not a Virgin site or project for us as there had been a supplier supplying u granites before and dis supplier association Ajah axis can be problematic base on this.

Not that we can't handle it or clear it in but for d fact dat u r d owner of ur building and property, there won't be any problem for u at all but just prepare btw 3k-4k per trailer for them and u r good to go sir.

Our prices are subject to review becos they are not fixed but the prices we quoted are wot is obtainable right now and at the moment.

U already contacted us on our thread and we replied u even on d sharp sand but no response sir...


Forumites, I'm sorry if I may av derailed this thread... dis isn't advert kos I know it's against d rule of dis thread but just part of d answers he has been receiving on this thread base on the question he asked.


Cheers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:40am On Nov 12, 2015
^^^
@smiley001, it's a very problematic environment! I won't forget the day their Oga came to site with his boys to make noise. Thank God for the trigger-happy mopo's I engage to separate the Red Sea.

But as a supplier, you should be able to navigate the rough water. Even the owner can't do nothing. You're their first contact from Abraham Adesanya junction to roundabout and inside the town.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:42am On Nov 12, 2015
mufutau55:


Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!

Hajji M.


China is everywhere, I will be surprised if they are not making the pots and spoons being used at Aso rock, plus the tooth pick cheesy cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:51am On Nov 12, 2015
mufutau55:


Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!

Hajji M.


Hajji, its quite surprising how fake China products have flooded EVERY aspect of the Nigerian market. Things like toothbrush, car parts, Desktop charger etc.. I was checking out some materials yesterday, obviously China, but they wrote Made in New Zealand there etc..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:00am On Nov 12, 2015
spyder880:


China is everywhere, I will be surprised if there are not making the pots and spoons being used at Aso rock, plus the tooth pick cheesy cheesy

mufutau55:

Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!
Hajji M.

KolaShangOne:

Hajji, its quite surprising how fake China products have flooded EVERY aspect of the Nigerian market. Things like toothbrush, car parts, Desktop charger etc.. I was checking out some materials yesterday, obviously China, but they wrote Made in New Zealand there etc..

It's not about China made product. It's about knowing the difference between the original and the fake things.

Till date, a lot of iPhone parts are made in China. Can it be compared with some funny China phones? We need to know where to patronize when buying our goods and the decision is largely ours to choose between real and knock-offs.

I know fake and I'm allergic to fake things.

__________
Pic: @EgunMogaji, here's the knock-off version of the Centrifugal Fire Hydrant Pump.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:02am On Nov 12, 2015
brabus:






It's not about China made product. It's about knowing the difference between the original and the fake things.

Till date, a lot of iPhone parts are made in China. Can it be compared with some funny China phones? We need to know where to patronize when buying our goods and the decision is largely ours to choose between real and knock-offs.

I know fake and I'm allergic to fake things.

__________
Pic: @EgunMogaji, here's the knock-off version of the Centrifugal Fire Hydrant Pump.

For Hajj and EgunMogaji, this looks cheap wink
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 9:30am On Nov 12, 2015
chemaze:
NO MIND THEM. why wont the material rust and fades. THE ONLY COY THAT SELL REAL NEWZEALAND IN NIG ARE: WICTECH AND TILCOR.... ALL OTHER NEWZEAND I DONT KNW.
FOR REAL KOREA THEY ARE LIKE 5 COYs. The texture, prices and detail of the manufacturer u shall knw them. But are not cheap shall

Yes.. Only Wichtech and Tilcor imports new Zealand.
Most of these materials don't even have ISO numbers printed on their side. Most aren't 0.55mm etc..

@brabus I understand your point. That's why I said Fake China.. Because there's original China. Everything is made in China, fake or original. It's Nigerians that go there and ask for fake.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beulah09: 3:56pm On Nov 12, 2015
mufutau55:


Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!

Hajji M.


Not necessarily made in China. Fire Extinguishers are supposed to be serviced and tested at periodic intervals so that they will not fail on demand. A simple concept that many do not understand.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 4:15pm On Nov 12, 2015
brabus:
^^^
@smiley001, it's a very problematic environment! I won't forget the day their Oga came to site with his boys to make noise. Thank God for the trigger-happy mopo's I engage to separate the Red Sea.

But as a supplier, you should be able to navigate the rough water. Even the owner can't do nothing. You're their first contact from Abraham Adesanya junction to roundabout and inside the town.


Yes u r very correct sir but it's always good to pay them their dues.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beulah09: 4:15pm On Nov 12, 2015
abdulwastecx:


'I laugh when I hear people say "Nigerian builder a fond of overloading a building" I don't think you really understand the generic of reinforced concrete structures. They don't over load building but build according to lay down rules/codes.

You just don't suddenly start thinking out of box after the building foundation and ground floor has been done. Prior to construction you carried out all your analysis and decide on what building materials to use, either wood, steel or reinforced concrete.

Wood deck is not popular outside South west (in the sixties) because of lack of standardization and adequate properties of the wood.

How do you design wood deck when you don't have wood structural properties like stresses, shear, deflection etc.

Steel deck is not popular because of cost

Reinforced concrete deck and suspended floor slab is the most popular among the three due of durability and lower cost

It is due to IGNORANCE and ARROGANCE. Most people look at buildings and they only see the 'beauty' and have zero understanding of what structural integrity is. Made worse by 'engineers' that will produce structural drawings without doing any calculations. That is where the problem is in Nigeria. In an environment where a welder is deemed to be an Engineer it is understandable.

If you are going to improvise, at least understand the engineering solutions behind your decision. Whether you want to use I beam, Wood or any material do you know the 'strength' of the material. Not just that the wood is hard!

In Engineering you are able to do anything with appropriate material selection and design. The determining factor will be safety and cost!

I always tell people, you cannot have it CHEAP, SAFE and FAST at the same time. Some compromises will be made.

Nigeria is a funny country. It is a place where the pharmacy attendant believes that he knows more than the doctor. Instead of seeking professional (not quacks) advice, people get deceived with 'shiny shiny' things and get deceived!

There are regulations and codes that governs what you do in most profession, the building/construction industry not exempted. We however have many quacks who do not know the codes nor why the codes were placed there! There are also people 'certified' as competent to do certain things! When it comes to STRUCTURES use certified and competent structural engineers! It is a shame the amount of quacks masquerading as professionals and misleading the gullible just because of their sales gimmicks.

In the sector that I am in, there are certifications for welders, for painters even for cooks! You don't have the certification, you are not fit to operate there!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 5:33pm On Nov 12, 2015
chemaze:
NO MIND THEM. why wont the material rust and fades. THE ONLY COY THAT SELL REAL NEWZEALAND IN NIG ARE: WICTECH AND TILCOR.... ALL OTHER NEWZEAND I DONT KNW.
FOR REAL KOREA THEY ARE LIKE 5 COYs. The texture, prices and detail of the manufacturer u shall knw them. But are not cheap shall

Thanks for the clarification my brother.
The real korea one, I do know about Batlan and Batlan/DS systems have a website that one can check from.
Do you know any other original korea one ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 5:59pm On Nov 12, 2015
mufutau55:


Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!

Hajji M.

lol nor be small thing oh, anyway, I have bought one 1KG from the Uk, I hope Im allowed to put it on my hold luggage grin
mufutau55:


Made in China Fire Extinguisher? LOL!

Hajji M.

lol nor be small thing oh, anyway, I have bought one 1KG from the Uk, I hope Im allowed to put it on my hold luggage
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 6:01pm On Nov 12, 2015
Beulah09:


Not necessarily made in China. Fire Extinguishers are supposed to be serviced and tested at periodic intervals so that they will not fail on demand. A simple concept that many do not understand.
The one I'm talking about was a week Old, in other news, you can see the pressure on them in the greens if healthy in the red if dead, Now how can one have one of them bottles and its on red a month after you buy them and did not even remove the pin?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:22pm On Nov 12, 2015
wow my work tour of east was fantastic.. good to work with Engr abdulwastecx, who i can recommend as a season Engr. good work by him down there.... i was able to visit one of our top oga site too (spyder880) lovely building constructed by him down there....and i enjoy the lovely environment down there.. i notice that most houses in the east cherish having a mango tree or so in there compound, which is lovely.

i was treated with a nice oha soup and hot fufu @ owerri by a friend nice delicacy grin i do i enjoy that wish i can go back for more grin

@all, for your low voltage always allow us to do the conduit job for you instead of the Electrician,or we can instruct your ELectrician on what to do, adequate conduit is necessary for the distribution of cctv, satellite tv or telephone. even if you dont need any of the services now its important you have the route define!!! instead of breaking the wall or running trunking pipe at a later stage.

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 11:36pm On Nov 12, 2015
Yuletide sales begins on 1st December 2015 ends 31st December 2015

30tons Granite to V.I, LEKKI, AJAH goes for N130,000. This is our method to say thank you to our numerous customers.

Thanks for patronage!!! .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 9:02am On Nov 13, 2015
Some beautiful but expensive construction materials on a site in Abuja.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 9:04am On Nov 13, 2015
See how corners of plaster are made perfect.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:14pm On Nov 13, 2015
adanny01:
See how corners of plaster are made perfect.
where did you buy that from?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 11:19pm On Nov 13, 2015
erico2k2:

where did you buy that from?

Not my site. I have no idea where they got it from.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:32pm On Nov 13, 2015
Abeg everyone in da house.. what is this interlocking stone design called please?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Fhemmmy: 4:52am On Nov 14, 2015
adanny01:
Some beautiful but expensive construction materials on a site in Abuja.

Is that for a house or for a factory . . .Lovely piece for the roofing and i will assume will be costly but for sure will last longer and how would it be treated against corrosion? or what kinda material is that?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 1:01pm On Nov 14, 2015
Fhemmmy:


Is that for a house or for a factory . . .Lovely piece for the roofing and i will assume will be costly but for sure will last longer and how would it be treated against corrosion? or what kinda material is that?

Its a house, otherwise know as mansion.

Galvanised steel does not rust and for sure it is expensive.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 2:42pm On Nov 14, 2015
I just spoke to my welder now and he says that there is no need to do a AC stand that most split units come with a wall hanger and it just needs to be bolted onto the wall.

Any truth in this ?
I was thinking of doing a AC stand suspended however i dont want to walls to get broken at a later stage etc.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Fhemmmy: 3:11pm On Nov 14, 2015
adanny01:


Its a house, otherwise know as mansion.

Galvanised steel does not rust and for sure it is expensive.

Great
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:19pm On Nov 15, 2015
brabus:
^^^
@smiley001, it's a very problematic environment! I won't forget the day their Oga came to site with his boys to make noise. Thank God for the trigger-happy mopo's I engage to separate the Red Sea.

But as a supplier, you should be able to navigate the rough water. Even the owner can't do nothing. You're their first contact from Abraham Adesanya junction to roundabout and inside the town.

I think the building owner is in a better position to deal with these miscreants calling themselves association!
If left, they will just be extorting the supplier, who will then be complaining to you

During a project l was doing, they were almost fifty asking for these and that money.

I promptly drafted four soldeirs to my sight and when my supplier is nearby, he calls me and l ask two of my Boys to lead the Trailer into the area! grin grin

At the end of the day, the Urchins came begging "Baba Twaele! we re your boys and we are hungry. Anything you give us, we will appreciate"!
I asked them to see me in three days time as l hate "intimidation" with a passion.
I ensured l clipped their wings but later gave them 10K to buy hemp so that they knwo the money is not an issue.... l just dont allow harrassment around my person.

Since then, even if l sneeze, you will see them running helter skelter like na me born them! grin grin
If l park my Vehicle, before l return, some unknown person would have washed it and l am like did l send you?
Baba, we are your boys and we are here to take care of you sir!

We are on good terms "for now", as long as they behave themselves... but you can bet, "Area boys" will always be area boys. undecided undecided


Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:24pm On Nov 15, 2015
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twinskenny:
wow my work tour of east was fantastic.. good to work with Engr abdulwastecx, who i can recommend as a season Engr. good work by him down there.... i was able to visit one of our top oga site too (spyder880) lovely building constructed by him down there....and i enjoy the lovely environment down there.. i notice that most houses in the east cherish having a mango tree or so in there compound, which is lovely.

i was treated with a nice oha soup and hot fufu @ owerri by a friend nice delicacy grin i do i enjoy that wish i can go back for more grin

@all, for your low voltage always allow us to do the conduit job for you instead of the Electrician,or we can instruct your ELectrician on what to do, adequate conduit is necessary for the distribution of cctv, satellite tv or telephone. even if you dont need any of the services now its important you have the route define!!! instead of breaking the wall or running trunking pipe at a later stage.

Thanks


I completely agree.

@Twinskenny, did you ever try to investigate "wireless transmission" of signals?
This is the future/present for your work.

The earlier you clue-in, the better.


Lastpage!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:32pm On Nov 15, 2015
^^^
@lastpage,

Good that you know this. A lot of intending property owners needs to be schooled about this. Building a house is not only about cost, it has techniques and foolproof ways to success.

Till date, land urchins at various sites I've worked still call me names like "small body, big engine", "see-and-pay", "oga nla" and many others. Why? I knew my way out of their tricks and trust me I want to get them outta way so as to do my job without delays. However, the bigger rogues are the ones in charge of approvals in the estate offices but trust me them sabi their Oga. Where necessary, I always school them and even get the management to bend rules or make exception rules.

I'm sure guys at Diamond estate, Sangotedo, LKH, Ikota, Cooperative Villas, BADORE will always remember there was a builder who will not give up or succumb to outdated building regulations.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingreign(m): 6:50pm On Nov 15, 2015
adanny01:


Not my site. I have no idea where they got it from.
the parapets and window sills, are from Polystryene Integrated Limited (PIL), as for the edging of the plastered walls, it was done by a mason using an edging/angle tool.

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