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NAIJASOM:
If only online rant was enough to stop the Biafran movement....Some people think that countering biafran comments online is enough to stop the movement...Delusional. What couldn't be done with guns in the past is being fought with keyboard and mouse....again Delusional

The madman deluded you all with radio knobs and keyboard. and we would use the same mediums to cure your craziness.

Mods, the original post made FrontPage, it's only fair that its counter shud make front page too.........mods do the needful!

pazienza:
Choi! I am so proud! Igbo nwere mmadu!
# singing Igbo Amaka by flavour

mba, onye nkea esoghi na ndi anyi nwere. o na ako inyo

I stopped reading when the OP said Anambra has better roads than Lagos

Delusion

Why is this clown naija pips decimating this wonderful thread?
Someone get me a mosquito repellent!

naijapips02:
we cannot sit back and watch you guys destroy our region.....mbanu.

Your points has been noted. I smell fear all over it: fear of the unknown. Americans didn't entertain any fear and they were able to conquer Mars and the moon. Igbos are naturally proud and likes competition. What made you think that Igbos ingenuity won't take them to greater height we always have retrogressive thoughts and allow permissiveness take control of our destiny.

DFemaleBoss:
Why is this clown naija pips decimating this wonderful thread?
Someone get me a mosquito repellent!

I think we need a hammer. lots of zombies to smash on this thread.

DonSapientia:
Your points has been noted. I smell fear all over it: fear of the unknown. Americans didn't entertain any fear and they were able to conquer Mars and the moon. Igbos are naturally proud and likes competition. What made you think that Igbos ingenuity won't take them to greater height we always have retrogressive thoughts and allow permissiveness take control of our destiny.

going from Nigeria to Biafra is retrogression. Our Jewish brothers are fighting tooth and nail to win Moe territories and we are fighting too and nail to enclave our region. If we should be competing against anyone, it's Hausa - fulani and not ourselves.

naijapips02:
I think we need a hammer. lots of zombies to smash on this thread.

Are you ok? You sound so pained and I was actually referring to you cos it seems you're losing your senses.

DFemaleBoss:
Are you ok? You sound so pained and I was actually referring to you cos you're losing it.

I'm actually pained because my brothers are disgracing me. You guys are making the entire world think very little of us, and it pains me....So much.

You people should try and grow some sense na.....bikonu.

naijapips02:
I'm actually pained because my brothers are disgracing me. You guys are making the entire world think very little of us, and it pains me....So much.

You people should try and grow some sense na.....bikonu.

I'm not gonna indulge you bc it's now crystal clear that you do this for a living(you're being paid).

The way you're running helter skelter all over nairaland like a lost sheep shows the pressure from your oga at the top but guess what you're insignificant and shout from now till thy kingdom come, it would amount to nothing cos you don't even count.

Whoever that's paying you clearly overestimated you. I bet your father, mother, bros/sis and even kids, if you have any are even hardcore Biafrans.

Give it up bro before you lose it completely. Lmao

naijapips02:
I'm actually pained because my brothers are disgracing me. You guys are making the entire world think very little of us, and it pains me....So much.
You people should try and grow some sense na.....bikonu.

please naijapips02 if persons do not buy your idea respect it we are all adults we know the truth
if Ireland after more than five decades a poor nation could develop with there meagre resources that Britain now envy
think about Biafra

nke anyi bu nkeanyi....
kwado nkeanyi abunna onye iron

okeyley:
please naijapips02 if persons do not buy your idea respect it we are all adults we know the truth
if Ireland after more than five decades a poor nation could develop with there meagre resources that Britain now envy
think about Biafra
nke anyi bu nkeanyi....
kwado nkeanyi abunna onye iron

Agaghi akwado ihe n'emezighi ofuma. O buru na anyi ga enwe Biafra, anyi kwesiri take time, chemaa ya eche. Put things on ground and prepare for whatever outcome. Ireland didn't

The 1614 overthrow of the Catholic majority in the Irish Parliament was realised principally through the creation of numerous new boroughs which were dominated by the new settlers. By the end of the seventeenth century, recusants (as adherents to the older religion were now termed), representing some 85% of Ireland's population, were then banned from the Irish Parliament. Protestant domination of Ireland was confirmed after two periods of war between Catholics and Protestants in 1641-52 and 1689-91. Political power thereafter rested entirely in the hands of a Protestant Ascendancy minority, while Catholics and members of dissenting Protestant denominations suffered severe political and economic privations under the Penal Laws. The Irish Parliament was abolished from 1 January 1801 in the wake of the republican United Irishmen Rebellion and Ireland became an integral part of a new United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland under the provisions of the Acts of Union 1800. Although promised a repeal of the Test Act, Catholics were not granted full rights until Catholic Emancipation was attained throughout the new UK in 1829. This was followed by the first Reform Act 1832, a principal condition of which was the removal of the poorer British and Irish freeholders from the franchise.

The Irish Parliamentary Party strove from the 1880s to attain Home Rule through the parliamentary constitutional movement, eventually winning the Home Rule Act 1914, although this Act was suspended at the outbreak of World War I. The Easter Rising staged by republicans two years later brought physical force republicanism back to the forefront of Irish politics.

Ireland was a previously independent country, with a central government, conquered by Britain. Is Biafra same?

naijapips02:
we cannot sit back and watch you guys destroy our region.....mbanu.

which region? Guy maa bench mua enwe godi ur time nigga.

My brother you're on the right side don't mind that Crazyman we know what we want and we are going about it @crazyman you can gather your own crowd and protest on bad government of nigeria but we are doing our own ,the best thing that can ever happen to IGBO land is BIAFRA
for those saying igbos have properties scattered all over the country they can sell it or demolish it, give it out, probably stay in nigeria we are not begging any body if we will be 10million BIAFRA citizens it's even better
this your post is on point but the MODS are anti BIAFRA am not expecting them to push to fp

lawrenceunaa:
which region? Guy maa bench mua enwe godi ur time nigga.

i na anu OMO. i can now see that Uche gi wu ChinChin

Router45:
I stopped reading when the OP said Anambra has better roads than Lagos

Delusion

'Road connection' which help free movement

DFemaleBoss:
I'm not gonna indulge you bc it's now crystal clear that you do this for a living(you're being paid).

The way you're running helter skelter all over nairaland like a lost sheep shows the pressure from your oga at the top but guess what you're insignificant and shout from now till thy kingdom come, it would amount to nothing cos you don't even count.

Whoever that's paying you clearly overestimated you. I bet your father, mother, bros/sis and even kids, if you have any are even hardcore Biafrans.

Give it up bro before you lose it completely. Lmao

ain't it obvious? we are winning more people to our side everyday. as the days go by, the emotional slab is clearing from people's brains and they are now beginning to reason independently.

If there was ever a time my region needs me, it's now.

Death to biafra.

naijapips02:
ain't it obvious? we are winning more people to our side everyday. as the days go by, the emotional slab is clearing from people's brains and they are now beginning to reason independently.

If there was ever a time my region needs me, it's now.

Death to biafra.

YOU're winning what stop distracting your brain

naijapips02:
ain't it obvious? we are winning more people to our side everyday. as the days go by, the emotional slab is clearing from people's brains and they are now beginning to reason independently.

If there was ever a time my region needs me, it's now.

Death to biafra.

If wishes were horses....
Keep on deluding yourself, who even takes a clown like you serious.

Meanwhile listen to your so called president, the jihadist Daura Dullardi.nho inciting the people to violence with dagger.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWz4XHCgrok

naijapips02:
Yes, Zik, Awolowo, Balewa, Ahmadu Bello were powerful in the colonial days. The were among the very few educated/enlightened Nigerians we had in those days. Emirs and Obas couldn't fight for independence cos most were grossly uneducated/enlightened. Zik for instance was the leader of Nigeria's foremost political party; National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) alongside Herbert Macaulay in 1944. Same with almost all the other leaders of the Nationalistic movements. Now the question is, How many leaders of political parties, top politician, Top Igbo technocrats are supporting your movement?

you lost the op's drift. He managed to prove that leaders of revolution can come from outside the corridors of power using azikiwe and co as example.
You agreed with him but ended up asking the same question which necessitated his thread.

naijapips02:
Let still go down a bit. What were the nationalist fighting for? Colonialism. Another man from another continent governing you and making you a slave in your own land. No matter how hard you try, you can never govern yourself. Now is it the same with what we have in the Nigeria of today? Does the average igbo man have the chance to govern Nigeria if he tried? Are the Igbos in Leadership Positions as we speak?

it is not about have an igbo as governor. It is about how the system is defined and structured. A system that allows my resources to be used to develop another man's land, building and maintaining seaport and airport in his land far away from mine while forcing me to use same facility while paying tax to him.
A system where peace reigns only if a partcular tribe wins election

a system where the definition of corruption is shaped by ethnic hatred, bigotry and religious sentiment. Leaving politicians to exloit this evil to subject everybody to servitude.

a system where meritocracy has been eroded by a brand of wickedness called quota system and federal character

naijapips02:
You cannot build a country on NOTHING. Do you know how long it would take a Biafra to get to put those offices in place. And using what revenue to set them up and get them running? What are your plans for revenue? Or do you still think Nigeria would be sending you monthly allowances if you get your biafra?

your questions are childish and unintelligent. Emmancipate your self from mental slavery

naijapips02:
The igbo business, most of the time, is sustained by Nigeria. If there were ever going to be a Biafra, those Nigerian contacts would be lost. It would be very cheaper and easier for Nigerians to do business with ghana than biafra.

how does nigeria sustain igbo businesses?

How will contacts be lost?

How will nigeria find it easier doing business with Ghana?

These are vacuous statement from a helpless fellow

naijapips02:
If SE is not improvised, what then is the justification for the call for secession? If we are among the most prospering states in Nigeria, how then are we being marginalized?

igboland (not southeast) is not impverished. Nigeria as a system creates an artificial hindrance on our ability to achieve our full potential

naijapips02:
You cannot succeed alone. No man is a forest. No matter how ingenious the igboman might be, He need collaborations. We need partnerships. And Nigeria, offers us most of that, right now.

we can still collaborate as nations.
Collaboration is never a forced affair. Respect our opinion and save yourself the stress of masquerading as an igboman just drive home your senseless arguement

naijapips02:
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How many members of your immediate community have you helped? how many has Nnamdi Kanu helped. Igbo man would always want to prove his superiority even to his brothers. You can never find Anambra state helping Imo state, rather, if there were things coming to imo to make it mightier, you would see a typical anambra man blocking it, to seem to remain on top. [/s]
i didnt notice that during the protest


[quote author=naijapips02 post=39937024]It is well evident that we igbos are very selfish. Last governorship primaries in IMO state had almost 24 candidates coming from just one Owerri political zone. An Ngwa man would rather vote for yoruba than vote an umuahia man.....it's the same everywhere.

selfishness is a universal character

naijapips02:
we cannot sit back and watch you guys destroy our region.....mbanu.

Dunce, why worry about those you hate....pls keep your goodwill to your fetish people. Igbos don't need you and your types

Dis flat heads no go hear word. Oya make una comot for lagos unless u will drown in the lagoon

Lol...my brother when a movement isn't supported by notable and responsible leaders, those championing it would be seen as rebels. Why do you think Uwazurike failed, its because no responsible SE leader supported him. The responsible leaders are the ones who will stand behind us and ensure that the government listens to us.

Currently, apart from a few youths, and online media, how many igbos even know who Nnamdi Kanu is?

If we don't have any "notable and responsible" SE leader negotiating on our behalf how do you think this dream would work?

Doesn't kanu's continued detention despite having met bail conditions tell you that our leaders have distanced themselves from the whole struggle?

If he even had the support of a few leaders do you think he would still be in detention by now?


All movements led by indigenous people to free themselves from an unjust system are often seen as rebellion by those who promote the unjust system, and the leaders of such movements labelled as rebels. Mandela was labelled a rebel by the then South African government, same with Mugabe by colonial Rhodesia govt, Mandela and ANC leaders were detained too for decades, but the only thing that tells us is the extent an oppressor can go to maintain a system of oppression.

Uwazuruike failed because of his methods, but I wouldn't still label his movement as failure, seeing that it set the foundation for IPOB and a standard which IPOB must operate above.

Are there really responsible leaders in any part of the zoological republic? Well Ohanaeze themselves couldn't get the zoo people to restructure the country, I don't think Anyone have the powers to force Biafran actualization, more than the Biafran youths. I don't know the Igbo leaders you speak of, the zoo is incapable of producing leaders, which exactly is why it's a Zoo, they produce rulers.

Lol...they were the best minds Nigeria had at that time. Go and do your reserach.

So I believe its safe to say they were powerful as well.

What makes a mind the best? Academic qualifications or concepts with vision beyond their time?

An Igbo mind capable of thinking beyond selfish interests it has vested in Nigeria, would always know that Biafra is the way to go for the future.

Great minds are minds who were able to see beyond their time, and took decisions for their people, that their people would look at 100 years from now and marvel at such Vision they possessed, in that case, I won't label Zik a great mind for championing co existence with Arewa-Oduanistanis, a people Biafrans had no cultural, political, religious, ideological common stand with, a great mind would have seen that Nigeria as it was constituted would still end up a third world country 55years later, Zik couldn't see beyond his selfish interests, and the state of Nigeria today as a failed zoological republic speaks volume of the state of mind of Zik and other one Nigeria promoters( Nigeria founding fathers) of those years, great minds see the future, greed and selfish interests driven minds see only the present and are often not eager to sacrifice the comfort of the present for a greater tomorrow.

Great minds like Lee Kwan yuan was able to see the vision for Singapore, and knew that it could only be achieved by unentangling Singapore from Malaysia, and today, nearly 55years he took that decision, his country is a first world country. That's the work of a great mind.
The result justifies the state of the mind.

History favours the victorious, when Biafra is actualized, history will also portray Nnamdi Kanu as a great mind who saw tomorrow and worked towards it, great minds of today are often people who promoted ideals thought to be radical and senseless yesterday, they separated themselves from from the greed that blind the ordinary folks, and saw bright futures for their people and a way to get to them.

naijapips02:
Agaghi akwado ihe n'emezighi ofuma. O buru na anyi ga enwe Biafra, anyi kwesiri take time, chemaa ya eche. Put things on ground and prepare for whatever outcome. Ireland didn't



Ireland was a previously independent country, with a central government, conquered by Britain. Is Biafra same?

yes Africa in general were independent sovereign nation states and empires and down in old Eastern Nigeria (Biafra) we had the Aro confederacy which extended to present day Benue Cross River and some parts of Cameroon. the make up of this set up was nation city states with few monarchs that still had council of elders which represents every clan that made up such city states.
a highly decentralized system ( Igbo Ama Eze )

naijapips02:
i na anu OMO. i can now see that Uche gi wu ChinChin

y don't u face those protesting ?
Incribe one Nigeria on ur placard and stop yannin nonsense behind the keyboard

naijapips02:
i na anu OMO. i can now see that Uche gi wu ChinChin

y don't u face those protesting ?
Inscribe one Nigeria on ur placard and stop yannin nonsense behind the keyboard

Hizzy:
My brother you're on the right side don't mind that Crazyman we know what we want and we are going about it @crazyman you can gather your own crowd and protest on bad government of nigeria but we are doing our own ,the best thing that can ever happen to IGBO land is BIAFRA
for those saying igbos have properties scattered all over the country they can sell it or demolish it, give it out, probably stay in nigeria we are not begging any body if we will be 10million BIAFRA citizens it's even better
this your post is on point but the MODS are anti BIAFRA am not expecting them to push to fp

@bolded
This post is so childish. So you would advise your fellow igbo brothers to their faces that they should sell or demolish their property, abandon their businesses and relocate to the SE?

What do you have on ground in the SE for them when they come...nothing.

What guarantee are you giving them that they would recover their loses in a few months...none.

You're truly a child who knows very little of what it takes to own a property.

Grow up son...no one is selling or demolishing their property.

CrazyMan:
@bolded
This post is so childish. So you would advise your fellow igbo brothers to their faces that they should sell or demolish their property, abandon their businesses and relocate to the SE?

What do you have on ground in the SE for them when they come...nothing.

What guarantee are you giving them that they would recover their loses in a few months...none.

You're truly a child who knows very little of what it takes to own a property.

Grow up son...no one is selling or demolishing their property.

that's the benefits of not investing in your region
have you ever asked your self why the Yorubas and Hausas don't invest outside their region
Because the have properties scattered allover the country we should stop agitating for BIAFRA
abi if you one of them I mean ndi ala bu otu na you sabi
like I said before if we are 10million BIAFRA citizens we are ok weren't asking you or any other person or persons to join NO
on the issue of calling me a child ,You that's an Adult writing rubbish that If we eventually have BIAFRA, BIAFRA citizens that are in the military, airforce,police we do what and you forget to understand the reasons we are agitating for BIAFRA ,we need BIAFRA to create jobs,electricity etc and you so called Nigeria citizens that are force will join the BIAFRA soldiers or police
and don't talk rubbish about Ebonyi state again coz am also from EBONYI

Onweghi ihe n'eme!
We dey bam bam

NAIJASOM:
This Igbo youth generation gives hope. The level of intellectual rebuttal they are giving these Pseudo- One nigerianist makes my belief in biafra much stronger. From Pazienza, to Tonychristopher to Blackkie etc. Preach on brothers.

He who waits till the weather is clement will never plant.
The greatest achievements are not given on a platter of gold, you have to think, think, think and act.

Biafra is a vision, wait for its fulfillment in the nearest tomorrow.

I believe you are in Nigeria when states was created in Nigeria. When my state, Anambra was carved out, they came home with nothing but today, you can compare us with Enugu state.

May be you are a football fan, you would have seen how so called big teams are shown the way out in competitions by perceived low ranking football teams.. Expect such result from Biafra!

CrazyMan:
Lol...my brother when a movement isn't supported by notable and responsible leaders, those championing it would be seen as rebels. Why do you think Uwazurike failed, its because no responsible SE leader supported him. The resWe Need Good Leadership In The South East Not Biafra by Crazyman - A Rebuttalonsible leaders are the ones who will stand behind us and ensure that the government listens to us.

Currently, apart from a few youths, and online media, how many igbos even know who Nnamdi Kanu is?

If we don't have any "notable and responsible" SE leader negotiating on our behalf how do you think this dream would work?

Doesn't kanu's continued detention despite having met bail conditions tell you that our leaders have distanced themselves from the whole struggle?

If he even had the support of a few leaders do you think he would still be in detention by now?


Lol...they were the best minds Nigeria had at that time. Go and do your reserach.

So I believe its safe to say they were powerful as well.


Don't bother biko...I don't need it.


"There will be similar parastatals in Biafra indeed. " And how are we going to go about the creation? Or will they just appear from nowhere?

Can you give us a mathematical calculation of how we would generate funds in a space of months to establish a Biafran police force, Biafran Army, Biafran Immigration...etc and what guarantee do you have that every single one of the returnees would be employed?

I'm asking for a stable economy in the SE first...let's achieve that then we will negotiate for Biafra. Try to understand where I'm coming from.


And those offices will spring up over night right?

What plans have been put in place for such offices?

Please stop all this talk and show us facts.


My dear brother, those that travel during christmas period stay in the SE for not more than 3weeks after which they will return back to their comfort zones.

Secondly they travel with a specific financial budget for the Christmas celebration and not for permanent relocation...they don't come searching for jobs cos they already have jobs in their comfort zones...so this argument is baseless.


Did you just ask this question?

So we don't have Igbos in the military, the police, the immigration, the frsc...etc?

Does the percentage really matter?

My argument is do we have an already established parastatal where they will fit into once they relocate?

If yes kindly explain to us.


True...but you're forgetting that most igbos have business which are thriving outside the SE.

That you don't own any shouldn't make you sound so selfish in your reasoning.

If you want an igbo man to close down his company which he spent years to establish and relocate to the SE, you should be able to convince him with facts not promises and sweet words that he wouldn't regret his action.


I didn't start my thread to compare the standard of living in the SE to those in northern states.


Arguably true...anambra links delta, imo, enugu and abia states directly...

It has a better road network than lagos...I don't remember saying otherwise on my thread.


And you're the one who will ensure that standby generators would be placed in homes and offices once biafra is achieved right?


True and I'm glad you put Nigeria not Biafra.

Now how many of these professors have openly come out to support the biafran dream? Before we begin to boast about this achievement, we should have them on our side first.

Cos as far as am concerned, they're just going about their day-to-day activities paying little or no attention to the Biafran movement.

So its safe to conclude that they don't give a damm.


Everyone knows this...nothern schools are the least on the ranking.

My argument was about infrastructure.


Are you saying we're in a sorry state? Yes we are

Are you're refering to biafra as the moon in the sky? If yes, then we should look for a means on how to come out of our sorry state so we can have a proper view of the moon in the sky.

If it (the proverb) has a differnt meaning from what I wrote, kindly explain it to us...


And what has it achieved?

Our responsible leaders have remained mute.

Kanu is rotting away in jail despite meeting bail conditions.

The Nigerian government hasn't issued any statement in regards to this biafran struggle (I stand to be corrected)

So what has the non-violent protest achieved apart from having our brothers being shot dead, wounded and arrested?


Nnamdi Azikiwe is dead so don't bring him into this matter. My question is how do we intend to stand independently with no FG allocation if Biafra is decleared today.

What do we have on ground in the SE states that can generate an equivalent of the FG allocation for us?

Give me a direct answer and stop bleating around the bush.


I never painted Ebonyi as a poor state. I only made mention of the light issue afikpo is currently facing (up till now) and how dave (the governor) is making life miserable for people.

Anybody living in Ebonyi state would agree with what I said.


And how many oils drilled from Anambra, Imo, Enugu and Abia has been used to develope those states and create enough job opportunities?

Wouldn't you eat to your satisfaction before you consider about giving some to those who need it?

If we cannot use the oil in those SE states to develop our region, what makes you so certain that we will do so when biafra becomes a reality?

Or are you planing to employ and vote in saints and angels to manage the biafran affairs?

If we cannot choose credible leaders amongst ourselves would give us good governance, how are we sure that this present corrupt leaders wouldn't highjack the whole prosess and continue their self centered governance?


My brother I'm not abandoning you...my arguments are in the best interest of Ndigbo in general


True but that still doesn't justify Rochas actions, neither will it earse the fact that he prefers to patronise foreign compaines at the expense of the indigenous ones.


Far better option indeed.

Who are going to be the leaders of this so call biafra, wouldn't it be the same people who have looted us dry?

Why is this biafran struggle done by the youths only?

If there's one thing I know, its that youths are easily compromised. If this biafran struggle becomes a reality I wouldn't be surprised when I see the likes of Orji Uzo kalu, T.A. Orji, Ohakim, Rochas, Ngige, Andy Uba, Nnamani, Sam Egwu...etc bribing, killing, and blackmailing each other just to get juicy slots in the new biafran government. And sadly its the same youths who protested, died, went to jail...etc who wouldn't hasitate to pick up arms and ensure that this same looters and crooks get into power.

That's my fear.


Examples include....


*exhales*

Just tell me how we plan on achieving that and I would pledge my loyalty to the movement.