justwise:


You may have to calm down with this your ant-UK campaign and allow people to make up their own mind. You have been on this for too long now. People have their reasons for choosing the UK and not Canada, Australia or New Zealand.

GeneralShepherd:


It's not an anti UK campaign, I love the UK but the immigration laws are not in favour of international students and it is consistent with conservative policies over the years.

So please why not say it as it is or at least don't try and paint me as anti UK. Biko I take God beg you

GeneralShepherd:


It's not an anti UK campaign, I love the UK but the immigration laws are not in favour of international students and it is consistent with conservative policies over the years.

So please why not say it as it is or at least don't try and paint me as anti UK. Biko I take God beg you

crazydove:


You have been on this issue for too long and its boring.
Everyone knows about the uk immigration.coming here to post about immgration is a waste.you can't just come everytime and repeating yourself when no one asked about job opportunity or staying behind after school on this thread.when such issues are raised you can discuss or give your advice.
Its canada,australia and US that discuss such issues

GeneralShepherd:


It's my prerogative to express my view as I deem fit. When you become a moderator you may decide. So please don't tell me when and when not to offer advice.

GeneralShepherd:


It's my prerogative to express my view as I deem fit. When you become a moderator you may decide. So please don't tell me when and when not to offer advice.

crazydove:


Everything in life has a proceedure and process even the way we talk and discuss.
What you are talking about does it tally with the thread?
Did you see anyone post anything relating to stay back in the uk after school?

worry359:


You have expressed your view and you are entitled to that.
To keep re-posting the same thing in reply to every post is childish behavior
and makes you look foolish.

spacyzuma:
I've been occasionally checking out this thread for months, but avoid commenting.

I'd like to contribute my small opinions.

I was a Nigerian student in UK a few years ago. I was here on a full PG scholarship, and a good one. They paid on time, rarely delayed, and the amount was enough for me to not work.

I also got a good job and started work immediately I finished my degree. I have friends, who got their PG degrees before and after me, that also found work in UK too. In fact, it was through the advice of one of the older guys that I was able to get my job.

I'm willing to offer any assistance and answer questions that anyone may wish to personally ask.

Cheers.

GeneralShepherd:


So because worry359 doesn't like my post I must be childish.
Guy abeg swerve this na early morning, make I enjoy my coffee first

ochukoccna:

@spacyZee, good for you
It wasn't like that for me and many of my colleagues though when and after studying
Tier 2 visas scarce pass hen teeth especially for those that entered from the time Cameron took over
Why you no drop the info here make we all read?
Cheers!

spikesC:


He is right you know. Coming here to repost this every now and then is very childish and constitutes spamming.

You have no experience in USA, Canada nor Australia, so you have no authority to advise people on where to go and study.
Sorry to say this but you came to the UK, had your opportunity and failed. Failed woefully you couldn't even accept it and move on with your life.

Please, we beg you, the travel section has been up and running even before you thought about travelling abroad. You came here seeking for help just like all of us at some point, so do not destroy it for others.

spikesC:


He is right you know. Coming here to repost this every now and then is very childish and constitutes spamming.

You have no experience in USA, Canada nor Australia, so you have no authority to advise people on where to go and study.
Sorry to say this but you came to the UK, had your opportunity and failed. Failed woefully you couldn't even accept it and move on with your life.

Please, we beg you, the travel section has been up and running even before you thought about travelling abroad. You came here seeking for help just like all of us at some point, so do not destroy it for others.

GeneralShepherd:


So suggesting studying in another country is destroying the travel section. Your thought processing is really poor, I wonder the kind of programmes you develop with such illogical thinking

crazydove:


Justwise why are you allowing this one derail the thread and diverting our discussion?

claremont:
Actually, GeneralShepherd is right, and it's not fair that he is being insulted for expressing his opinion in a public forum. I also share the same opinion as well, and I think this issue should be continuously flogged regardless of how many times it has been flogged in the past. The positives and the negatives of living and working in the diaspora should be spoken about, and then people should be allowed to make their own informed decisions. These views do not constitute thread derailment, it fits into the key objectives of this thread i.e. giving advice to intending immigrants on how good or bad living in the diaspora is.

GeneralShepherd:


Does graduating with a good result mean failure to you? Or securing an oil and gas job in Perth Australia also constitute failure?

Okay continue lol

claremont:
Actually, GeneralShepherd is right, and it's not fair that he is being insulted for expressing his opinion in a public forum. I also share the same opinion as well, and I think this issue should be continuously flogged regardless of how many times it has been flogged in the past. The positives and the negatives of living and working in the diaspora should be spoken about, and then people should be allowed to make their own informed decisions. These views do not constitute thread derailment, it fits into the key objectives of this thread i.e. giving advice to intending immigrants on how good or bad living in the diaspora is.

GeneralShepherd:


Please, unless you are on scholarship, do not come and study in the UK. The government in the UK do not like international students and it is virtually impossible to get a job when you graduate.

For me the essence of international education is to gain some international working experience before you return to your home country.

Please go and study in Canada, Australia or New Zealand. I am saying this from experience

Australia is so accommodating that an engineering graduate from the UK is eligible to apply for an 18 month temporary graduate work permit.

DisGuy:

Congrats in advance...
Would you say your UK degree played a part in securing a 'better' job or it wasnt/hasnt been an essential part of your applications?

spacyzuma:
I've been occasionally checking out this thread for months, but avoid commenting.

I'd like to contribute my small opinions.

I was a Nigerian student in UK a few years ago. I was here on a full PG scholarship, and a good one. They paid on time, rarely delayed, and the amount was enough for me to not work.

I also got a good job and started work immediately I finished my degree. I have friends, who got their PG degrees before and after me, that also found work in UK too. In fact, it was through the advice of one of the older guys that I was able to get my job.

I'm willing to offer any assistance and answer questions that anyone may wish to personally ask.

Cheers.

DisGuy:


On one hand hand I agree with you, prospective students needs to know the realities of living in these foreign countries- good, bad etc
But When it becomes repeated every other pages then it gets irritating especially with the amount of information out there, one would expect anyone intending to study for a PG degree will have access to these info and make informed decisions.

Some people see their student visa as a ticket out of naija and many conclude working in the UK is the only way to recoup their investments, what about working elsewhere?

moving to Abuja doesnt translate to landing a government contract..same way studying in England doesnt guarantee anyone a working visa..

justwise:


Thank God he did not tell you not to come to the UK because there is no job and the govt don't like foreign students.

GeneralShepherd:


Please mark the main phrase in his post, a few years ago. Post 2012, securing a job in the UK for an international students has increased in difficulty.

I rest my case. And yes, studying in the UK gave me access to the Australian labour market, imagine what studying in Australia itself has to offer.

justwise:


Then it's hypocritical of you for warning others not to come to the UK to study.

GeneralShepherd:


Please mark the main phrase in his post, a few years ago. Post 2012, securing a job in the UK for an international students has increased in difficulty.

I rest my case. And yes, studying in the UK gave me access to the Australian labour market, imagine what studying in Australia itself has to offer.

spacyzuma:

I learned to focus on only the companies that have Tier II visa sponsorship certificates. The UKBA or Home Office has a list of companies with that privilege.

PS: I see some people bashing GeneralShepherd for being negative about UK. I don't think that's fair. Statistics show that he is correct. If I had my way originally, I'd have gone to US or Canada for my masters. UK keeps making it harder for EU and non-EU migrants to get jobs and settle in. The main advantage that UK has is that masters is just one year, and admission is very easy to get. PG education is a huge source of revenue for UK. They attract you with easy admission, charge you outrageously, rush you through in as short a time as possible, and then find ways to make you get out as soon as possible. The latter half of my masters was very stressful, and if I was still busy applying to jobs and going for interviews, I might have collapsed.

ochukoccna:


I didn't know where to look for this companies