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gimakon:
NIGGUR go kill yourself.

Who follows the old testament this days? Like what the fúck is wrong with this nigga?

madjnr:
lol what a hypocrite... so you're now rejecting a part of your bible cos it doesn't suit you? what matters is those things happened ... killing of unarmed women and kids... and your beloved god gave the go ahead

madjnr:
lol what a hypocrite... so you're now rejecting a part of your bible cos it doesn't suit you? what matters is those things happened ... killing of unarmed women and kids... and your beloved god gave the go ahead

Scholar8200:
And tell us ONE terror group whose motivation is demonstrably based on the passages you quoted.

madjnr:
the fact is you guys may end up in hell for deliberately refusing to follow Jesus

gimakon:
Jesus came that we have life and have it in abundance. Old testament has a proof that they were following unknown gods. This your Allah didn't show you. I wonder when you make a creation and it turns to do what you don't like you gonna feel good.
It was then, that the anger of God arose and his punishment he sent to them.

After that, according to the gospel of St. Paul, spread his gospel, did miracles at antioch, Syria and damascus. And the gospel spread to all parts of the world. Ask yourself, if Jesus never meant well, why spread his word. My religion preaches tolerance, your religion, I don't know(i have vowed never to speak wrongly of it) but saying we speak and preach violence, your sheikhs would stone you. You don't know what you are saying. If we do as you claim, we won't be banned in some nations today.

Stop saying what you don't know. Ask questions, let us guide you into what Christianity is all about.

gimakon:
Jesus came that we have life and have it in abundance. Old testament has a proof that they were following unknown gods. This your Allah didn't show you. I wonder when you make a creation and it turns to do what you don't like you gonna feel good.
It was then, that the anger of God arose and his punishment he sent to them.

After that, according to the gospel of St. Paul, spread his gospel, did miracles at antioch, Syria and damascus. And the gospel spread to all parts of the world. Ask yourself, if Jesus never meant well, why spread his word. My religion preaches tolerance, your religion, I don't know(i have vowed never to speak wrongly of it) but saying we speak and preach violence, your sheikhs would stone you. You don't know what you are saying. If we do as you claim, we won't be banned in some nations today.

Stop saying what you don't know. Ask questions, let us guide you into what Christianity is all about.

madjnr:
lol after your God was tired of preaching violence right?? The ordering of the killing of children and raping women... He suddenly turned a new leaf and repent...

gimakon:
Where did you read they rape women? Or are you forcing what your ISIS brothers do on Christianity now? This is what you do na. Which one u day

madjnr:
I read it in the Bible

gimakon:
Nairaland muslim.

Keep believing in this rubbish this religious fanatics tell you on here. I know this is not what they tell you in your mosque, it's something you obviously formulated on your own to win sides. But I assure you, you may keep believing in this until islam is completely faced out like dinosaurs, maybe by then you would have a clearer understanding of what I'm telling you now.
God is not an author of confusion dear brother. Rape is a grevious offence in Christianity and humanity. We do not practise barbarism.

Change your ideology. Ask reasonable questions. Let someone help you.

madjnr:
should I quote where I read it for you ?

madjnr:
lol what a hypocrite... so you're now rejecting a part of your bible cos it doesn't suit you? what matters is those things happened ... killing of unarmed women and kids... and your beloved god gave the go ahead

madjnr:
The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE ANY CHRISTIAN TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW.?

malvisguy212:
Ishaq 464: The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them BEHEADED in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 BOYS and men. Ishaq 465: “Then the Apostle divided the property, wives, and CHILDREN of the Qurayza among the Muslims. Allah’s Messenger took his fifth of the BOOTY.”
Tabari VIII:38: The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.
MUHAMMAD THE MERCILESS Ishaq 308: When the Apostle ordered him to be killed `Uqba said, ‘But who will look after my children?’ ‘HELL’, HE SAID, and `Asim b. Thabit b. Abu’l-Aqlah al- Ansari killed him according to what Abu `Ubayda b. Muhammad b. `Ammar b. Yasir told me. (See also Tabari IX:121)
MUHAMMAD THE THIEF Ishaq: 288: “Allah divided the booty STOLEN from the first caravan after he made spoils permissible. He gave four-fifths to those He had allowed to take it and one-fifth to His Apostle.”

malvisguy212:
yes, the old testament is part of the bible but it doesent mean ALL the law in it apply to christian,the New Covenant SUPERSEDE and REPLACE the Old Covenant. Christians are only advice to learn from the old testament:

Romans 15:4
“For whatever things were WRITING
BEFORE were written for our LEARNING
that we through the patience and
comfort of the Scriptures might have
HOPE”

God has already given us A New covenant and command us to follow . Here what God say in Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 31:31-34
31“The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL
and with the people of Judah. 32 It will NOT BE LIKE THE COVENANT I MADE WITH THEIR ANCESTORS when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[ a] them,[b]” declares the Lord. 33“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,”declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.34No longer will they teach their neighbor,or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.“FOR I WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE .”

Now All the old testament verses you provide are talking about people who disobey God ,God love required justice so God deal with them accordingly, but in the book of Jeremiah God say “FOR I WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE .” indicating God will have mercy and "FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS" no more only if they ask for forgiveness.

This new covenant was fullfiled in the
new testament. The ten commandments no longer apply as law because in the doctrine of Christ they are completely superseded. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus demands much more of us than the ten commandments. He not only forbids murder and adultery, but also the CAUSE, hate and lust. We are to love God with ALL OUR MIND,if you love God you will keep His commandments, so the key word is LOVE. No wonder Jesus give the TWO great commandments involving love God and your fellow human. So, love for God
and fellowman, not just because there is a command: “You shall not kill”.
Hope you understand now?

gimakon:
I would be happy.
Pls do.

madjnr:
lol what a hypocrite... so you're now rejecting a part of your bible cos it doesn't suit you? what matters is those things happened ... killing of unarmed women and kids... and your beloved god gave the go ahead

gimakon:
Jesus came that we have life and have it in abundance. Old testament has a proof that they were following unknown gods. This your Allah didn't show you. I wonder when you make a creation and it turns to do what you don't like you gonna feel good.
It was then, that the anger of God arose and his punishment he sent to them.

After that, according to the gospel of St. Paul, spread his gospel, did miracles at antioch, Syria and damascus. And the gospel spread to all parts of the world. Ask yourself, if Jesus never meant well, why spread his word. My religion preaches tolerance, your religion, I don't know(i have vowed never to speak wrongly of it) but saying we speak and preach violence, your sheikhs would stone you. You don't know what you are saying. If we do as you claim, we won't be banned in some nations today.

Stop saying what you don't know. Ask questions, let us guide you into what Christianity is all about.

madjnr:
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead
(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites
(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

madjnr:
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead
(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites
(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

madjnr:
you shouldn't follow all of it? Meaning take the part that suit your taste and leave out the rest where did Jesus unequovocally tell you do that