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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Badgers14: 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Nobody: 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by shiinihost: 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
CACAWA:
a local govt chairman was also elected, so what is your point?

A minister is more powerful than a senator. A minister represents the president. His vopinion makes impact, while a senator needs tote am up with his colleagues to make anymeaningfulimpact.

A minister is at par with a state governor...a mi inter controls several agencies of govt and can determine how much of federal presence any state would feel.

A state has three senators, just one governor, and just one minister.

A minister also controls financial power...all a senator has is his salary and allowance.

Finally, a minister is a principal member of the executive while a senator may not even be a principal member of the senate.

QED

a minister cannot make laws that would abound the whole federation. A Senator is representing his constituency while a minister is merely an employer of government.
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by franklingud(m): 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
Yeye question, a primary school drop-out knws dat a senator is more powerful than a minister.
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by alexohams2000(m): 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
None of them. Only God is powerful!!!
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by CACAWA(m): 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
TeeOw:
A group of senators can summon a minister.... a group of ministers can NOT summon a senator...

one single minister can arrest a senator. Ask ministry of police affairs or minister of justice
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by feaworaoja007: 2:25pm On Nov 28, 2015
Sweetguy25:
When you say powerful, what exactly do you mean? Some Ministers have the power and authority to set policies and programmes that may critical effects on our socioeconomic and political life. Okonjo Iweala was more powerful than any senator during her time. Same with Diezani.
kai! She wasnt @ all...didnt u watch when a senate commitee summoned her and bombarded her wit lots of question,she was almost crying...infact,it was aas if she was defending her thesis in sch or something...the chairman of the committee treated her like a mean lecturer!
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by LEOSIRSIR(m): 2:25pm On Nov 28, 2015
Interesting
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Osamabinladin: 2:26pm On Nov 28, 2015
CACAWA:
a local govt chairman was also elected, so what is your point?

A minister is more powerful than a senator. A minister represents the president. His opinion makes impact, while a senator needs to team up with majority of his colleagues to make anymeaningfulimpact.

A minister is at par with a state governor...a minister controls h of ral presence any state would feel. Many state governors have to seek approval from ministers before downing any project. For example, to build a road anywhere, you need approval from ministry of environment, ministry of housing, ministry of works and ministry of lands. If a finance minister says NO, you can't even collect state loans. Who controls CBN?

A state has three senators, just one governor, and just one minister.

A minister also controls financial power...all a senator has is his salary and allowance.

Finally, a minister is a principal member of the executive while a senator may not even be a principal member of the senate.

QED
you make sense die
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by PAINGAIN: 2:26pm On Nov 28, 2015
Lets look at this way.....a single senator and a single minister who is more powerful? I think that collectively senators are more powerful but individually minister are. My half kobo.

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by CACAWA(m): 2:26pm On Nov 28, 2015
shiinihost:


a minister cannot make laws that would abound the whole federation. A Senator is representing his constituency while a minister is merely an employer of government.
a senator alone cannot make any law...the senate is different from a senator, meanwhile, even that comes with professional input from the field which includes the ministry and civil societies. That is why the senate does open hearing before they can come up with laws
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Sweetguy25: 2:28pm On Nov 28, 2015
feaworaoja007:
kai! She wasnt @ all...didnt u watch when a senate commitee summoned her and bombarded her wit lots of question,she was almost crying...infact,it was aas if she was defending her thesis in sch or something...the chairman of the committee treated her like a mean lecturer!
The power of the senate lies in the group and not a single person. A single senator is powerless

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Chuksdede(m): 2:29pm On Nov 28, 2015
nwadiuko1:
when you say powerful do you mean financial power or constitutional power?
the senator is powerful both financially and constitutionally quote me anywhere
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Nobody: 2:30pm On Nov 28, 2015
You can only arrest someone that committed a crime... a group of senators can summon a minister just for incompetence alone and vote that he be removed of his ministerial duties.... cool

I repeat you can only arrest someone that committed a crime


CACAWA:
one single minister can arrest a senator. Ask ministry of police affairs or minister of justice
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by shiinihost: 2:31pm On Nov 28, 2015
CACAWA:
a senator alone cannot make any law...the senate is different from a senator, meanwhile, even that comes with professional input from the field which includes the ministry and civil societies. That is why the senate does open hearing before they can come up with laws
you Don't get it. A Senator can call a minister to order But a minister cannot do same. A Senator would have to Okay the budget of a minister before it would be approved. A Senator can call for the sack of a minister.
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by sunkoye: 2:32pm On Nov 28, 2015
In every situation, human and financial management. ..executives av always been most powerful and influential.

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by PassingShot(m): 2:35pm On Nov 28, 2015
TeeOw:
A group of senators can summon a minister.... a group of ministers can NOT summon a senator...

The question is btw a minister and a senator. Not btw a grp of ministers and a grp of senators. Besides, a minister may call the bluff of senate summons. We've seen it severally and very recently under GEJ.

A minister is empowered to have more influence and impact than a senator who often cannot single handedly effect any change except his/her colleagues are with him on same page.

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by CACAWA(m): 2:37pm On Nov 28, 2015
TeeOw:
You can only arrest someone that committed a crime... a group of senators can summon a minister just for incompetence alone and vote that he be removed of his ministerial duties.... cool

I repeat you can only arrest someone that committed a crime


a senator is different from the senate or group of senators..get that right.

Secondly, no senate can call for the removal of any minister no matter what.

Go and read the constitution.

In fact, in 2003 when el rural called the senate a house of rascals...they did nothing than grumble.

What r u talking

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by PassingShot(m): 2:37pm On Nov 28, 2015
shiinihost:

you Don't get it. A Senator can call a minister to order But a minister cannot do same. A Senator would have to Okay the budget of a minister before it would be approved. A Senator can call for the sack of a minister.
No. A senator has no such power. He cannot do anything single handedly. A minister can as wel refuse senate summon and NOTHING will happen except the presidency wants something to happen.
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by impeccable0(m): 2:38pm On Nov 28, 2015
A minister is powerful than a senator but senators more more powerful than a minister. In terms of functions, recognition, embezzlement and national influence, a minister is again powerful than senators. Senatorial functions is limited; just law and probing but ministerial functions/activities is vast...,
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by einsteino(m): 2:38pm On Nov 28, 2015
Their powers are different and they both have their strength and weaknesses.

A minister on his own is more powerful than a senator but when senators unite even the president feels threatened.

Ministers are like the president's hand. They wield executive powers and are often protected by the president. That is why the senate can summon a minister and he can chose to ignore if the president backs him. Senators only carry legislative and over sight powers, even the so called ministerial screening is a rubber stamp, afterall many of us went thru a more serious exercise just to land a job that barely pays the bills.

a minister sits on billions and has more rosy influence, his actions affect all our lives and he can even fustrate a governor.. I would say a minister but unlike a senator, a minister can lose his job at any time so that kinda weakens him.

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Nobody: 2:39pm On Nov 28, 2015
A single senators can influence his other colleagues to deal with a minister... grin Senators are like a pack of wolves... they are a unit that communicate with themselves regularly... while ministers are like cougars/pumas, they are lone rangers and one puma cannot challenge a pack of aggressive wolves... cool


PassingShot:

The question is btw a minister and a senator. Not btw a grp of ministers and a grp of senators. Besides, a minister may call the bluff of senate summons. We've seen it severally and very recently under GEJ.

A minister is empowered to have more influence and impact than a senator who often cannot single handedly effect any change except his/her colleagues are with him on same page.
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by CACAWA(m): 2:41pm On Nov 28, 2015
shiinihost:

you Don't get it. A Senator can call a minister to order But a minister cannot do same. A Senator would have to Okay the budget of a minister before it would be approved. A Senator can call for the sack of a minister.
all the stuffs you wrote is about the powers of the senate and not a single senator. No single senator can call a minister to order...ask yourself what happened to Amaechi who many senators stood against? He wasn't even a minister then. A single senator is just a normal public servant...

And if you forcibly and wrongly want to ascribe the power of the entire senate to just one senator, then you can also add that because constituency can recall a senator, then it means the groundnut seller in his constituency is more powerful than a senator.

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Nobody: 2:41pm On Nov 28, 2015
new2020:
Senator is more powerful. He can summon a minister to appear at the senate. A senator is third in command if elected senate president. A senator can refuse to confirm a minister.

your point is not solid enough though senate has power................. what if Chief justice refuse to swear in president? does that mean Chief Justice is more powerful than president? =NO.

Minister is more powerful in some ways. Minister has more political future, supporters and loyalist in Nigeria politics.
A powerful minister with executive support can rubbish the whole senate chambers like as Alison Maduake refuse to honor their invitation whenever she was invited.

I WILL PREFER MINISTER FOR JUST 2 YEARS TO SENATOR FOR 4 YEARS.

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Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by nwadiuko1(m): 2:42pm On Nov 28, 2015
Chuksdede:

the senator is powerful both financially and constitutionally quote me anywhere
i beg to disagree sir! in a corrupt country like ours a senator might be constitutionally more powerful than a minister (especially when he is in the midst of other senators) but financially a senator and a minister are not in the same league.......imagine how much these ministries get as allocation on monthly basis
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by tunapawizzy: 2:42pm On Nov 28, 2015
In an ideal society ...a senator is more powerful....but here in Nigeria where u can dip into d coffers of d ministry n agencies under ur watch..a minister wields more power
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Nobody: 2:43pm On Nov 28, 2015
The same senate that has to give approval before a ministerial nominee can become a minister can also remove a minister just like the senate can impeach a president... go and read the constitution properly...

Senators would not just remove a minister because he called them a house of rascals, they are not that "sensitive".

I know what I am talking about.

CACAWA:
a senator is different from the senate or group of senators..get that right.

Secondly, no senate can call for the removal of any minister no matter what.

Go and read the constitution.

In fact, in 2003 when el rural called the senate a house of rascals...they did nothing than grumble.

What r u talking
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by shiinihost: 2:44pm On Nov 28, 2015
PassingShot:

No. A senator has no such power. He cannot do anything single handedly. A minister can as wel refuse senate summon and NOTHING will happen except the presidency wants something to happen.

Of course the minister wields his powers in the 'senate' just like the minister wield her power in her 'ministry'. You can't talk about a senator without involving the senate.

Forget the rascality we are practicing in Nigeria. The senate has the power to summon anyone, even the president.
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by CACAWA(m): 2:44pm On Nov 28, 2015
TeeOw:
A single senators can influence his other colleagues to deal with a minister... grin Senators are like a pack of wolves... they are a unit that communicate with themselves regularly... while ministers are like cougars/pumas, they are lone rangers and one puma cannot challenge a pack of aggressive wolves... cool


lol funny...do you know how many senators write letters of referrals to ministers hoping for recognition and contracts for their keens?

One minister alone keeps in regular touch and buys the loyalty of more than 60% of the senators who are in fact, businessmen
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by bluecircle470: 2:46pm On Nov 28, 2015
Senators are powerful but ministers are richer
Re: Who Is More Powerful...a Minister And A Senator??? by Adaowerri111: 2:46pm On Nov 28, 2015
tactically very easy Question, the question was about senator and minister not senators and ministers, so senator and minister who is more powerful or influential, senator needs to function in groups while minister functions independently, Its easily a minister, can a senator summon a minister?? I doubt ...he needs his colleagues to do that. I sincerely think ministers are more powerful and richer.

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