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Re: Nigeria by notmywill: 10:12am On Dec 04, 2015
Corruption fighting back.
Re: Nigeria by AtlanticBreeze: 10:14am On Dec 04, 2015
viktagorion:
I'm tempted to call you unprintable names but I'm in a good mood this morning. What I have is just pity for you and your shallow reasoning. We are taking our country back from the hands of serial looters and all you can rant about is 'witch - hunting'. How I wish Jonathan 'witch hunted' looters during his stint as president, (the number of looters would have been reduced somewhat) I guess you can't give what you don't have. Those who ran from the sinking PDP and ran into the APC will also have their day with the law. Karma is a bitch you know. A day will also come when the 'Pharaoh that knew Joseph' will no longer be there. Let's not celebrate looters and economic rapists.
Please keep shut.. if it's not witch hunting what do you call it? Why is Buhari not also investigating the source of his multi billion campaign fund?
Re: Nigeria by DebateNigeria: 10:14am On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Whoever told you that is as hypocritical as the man that said he hasn't taken bribe before. Fraud is fraud and should not be entertained in any decent society. That I support you in an election does not mean that I will condone vice that is linked to you or your government. I'm first a Nigerian before anything else. It is the job of sycophants and zombies to defend fraud and defend anything done by their party chiefs
So true. I am also disappointed to say the least. This is monumental rape of our future. Anyways, let me just watch and see what the end would look like. We must learn to separate politics from justice and patriotism. Up till this moment, I am sympathetic to PDP, I am proud of it and have no regrets. Who knows, maybe Atiku, Amaechi, Kwankwaso, etc would have been indicted or probed if they were still in PDP.
God help Nigeria
Re: Nigeria by DebateNigeria: 10:16am On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Yes, PDP Governments in the past either lack the political will or turn blind eye to thes fraudulent acts but it doesn't exonerate perpetrators of the act irrespective of partisan leaning. One thing I admire about this government is the show of political will. That's commendable and we hope to see it spread across all thieves irrespective of whether umbrella or broom.
Re: Nigeria by Jesusloveyou: 10:19am On Dec 04, 2015
opiaoku:
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since you guys are for the truth waiting for you people to openly condemn Buhari on this never stopping fuel scarcity, failed promises, dwindling economy

shameless hypocrites
is like u are not in dis planet, when buhari has already be vindicated, that he is not d cause of fuel scarcity, that d marketers were hoarding and diverting d fuel because of d outstanding subsidy claims since Oct 2014 to Sept 2015, which buhari sent to senate for approval of d payment to marketers, PMB is really working, no money is missing for d past 6months, d change is real
Re: Nigeria by Nobody: 10:34am On Dec 04, 2015
nice right up. Corruption don't have party or tribe.
those who are shouting rule of law, knows in their innermost heart
there is no way Dasuki is completely free of corruption in the arms deal.

I like the way Buhari is going about it.
Re: Nigeria by Jesusloveyou: 10:34am On Dec 04, 2015
DebateNigeria:
So true. I am also disappointed to say the least. This is monumental rape of our future. Anyways, let me just watch and see what the end would look like. We must learn to separate politics from justice and patriotism. Up till this moment, I am sympathetic to PDP, I am proud of it and have no regrets. Who knows, maybe Atiku, Amaechi, Kwankwaso, etc would have been indicted or probed if they were still in PDP.
God help Nigeria
it would have be an easy ride, if all d political criminals supported buhari for change, by now nigeria would have be free from corruption, and more free money to fulfil campaign promises
Re: Nigeria by Nobody: 10:35am On Dec 04, 2015
DebateNigeria:
So true. I am also disappointed to say the least. This is monumental rape of our future. Anyways, let me just watch and see what the end would look like. We must learn to separate politics from justice and patriotism. Up till this moment, I am sympathetic to PDP, I am proud of it and have no regrets. Who knows, maybe Atiku, Amaechi, Kwankwaso, etc would have been indicted or probed if they were still in PDP.
God help Nigeria
I am with u on this
Re: Nigeria by OLADD:
Barcanista, as logical as your postulations might be, practically, it does not seem to be in tandem with the realities in our govt bureaucracies. Ordinarily, the office of NSA should not be seen to have anything to do with party campaigns or anything outside Security but this is not straight-jacketed.

1. National Security is not about the police, military or paramilitary affairs only, it involves everything about the life of any sitting govt. Ensuring that such govt is not ousted from power (by whatever means) is a joint responsibility of the NSA and other govt officials.

2. Media advertisements against insurgency and expositions on individuals who are seen as enemies of the State also fall under the jurisdiction of the NSA and any fund allotted to his office can be used appropriately as situation requires..

3. Excess Funds from Security Votes can be redirected for other pressing needs.

4. Dokpesi has explained the purpose for which the money he received was meant. It's now left for the court to establish the veracity of his claim. After all every govt in power pumps money into NTA for image laundering and campaign purposes.

We all support any fight against corruption but it must be done with sincerity of purpose. Buhari should explain where his party got his campaign funds from.
Re: Nigeria by idu1(m): 10:43am On Dec 04, 2015
OLADD:
Barcanista, as logical as your postulations might seem to be, practically, it does not seem to be in tandem with the realities in our govt bearucracies. Ordinarily, the office of NSA should not be seen to have anything to do with party campaigns or anything outside Security but this is not straight-jacketed.

1. National Security is not about the police, military or paramilitary affairs only. It involves everything about the life of any sitting govt. Ensuring that such a govt is not ousted from power (by whatever means) is a responsibility of the NSA and other govt officials.

2. Media advertisements against insurgency and exposition on individuals who are seen as enemies of the State also fall under the jurisdiction of the NSA and any fund allotted to such office can be used appropriately as any situation requires..

3. Excess Funds from Security Votes can be redirected for other pressing needs.

4. Dokpesi has explained the purpose for which the money he received was meant for. It's now left for the court to establish the veracity of his claim.

We all support any fight against corruption but it must be done with sincerity of purpose. Buhari should explain where his party got his campaign funds from.
Dokpesi's lawyer. You are not making sense...
Re: Nigeria by obailala(m): 10:43am On Dec 04, 2015
opiaoku:
You'll never see these useless apc bastards in this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2780095/amaechi-sold-rivers-asset-fund
now the culprit is now an honorable minister grin

corruption is very bad but if the fight against corruption is real it must be all round and not one sided nor partisan.
without it every other thing is just scam and witch hunting

as for the op he's a double standard vagabond
When will some of you just understand that it doesnt always have to be a PDP vs APC affair, it doesnt have to always be a pro-GEJ or anti-GEJ affair or pro-PMB or anti-PMB affair?

These guys who stole defence budgets directly led to the death of over 10 thousand Nigerians including gallant soldiers and civilians. FOr the first time in history, the ever agile Nigerian soldiers lost focus and courage and we continually heard of soldiers deserting, committing mutiny and going AWOL. Now the allegations raised by the soldiers that they were never armed is being unravelled to be true, the billions of dollars meant for arming the soldiers is now being revealed to have been shared by evil men (from all tribes and regions). But still, all you can think about is Amaechi or GEJ and PDP vs APC?

How I wish you were from the NE and your entire village was wiped out, would you have towed this line of reasoning?
Re: Nigeria by Eleniyan15: 10:47am On Dec 04, 2015
Tonyebarcanista

first time I Eleniyan agree with Tonye
#Speechless #LetEmGetThoseBastard #LeTEmIntoTheStreet #JungleJustice
if em enter prison them no go suffer
Re: Nigeria by engineerboat(m): 10:53am On Dec 04, 2015
AtlanticBreeze:
Let me present it from Another angle, now that buhari is probing the campaign funds if GEJ, when will he probe his own campaign funds that's since we are going with his poor background?? When will he probe the multi billions used for his own campaign? smh
the point is, 'you will pull a man to his point of no return' pls decode dat. Today is PDP time, indiorectly helping them to know he way forward.
Re: Nigeria by engineerboat(m): 11:03am On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
I don't know why those partisan fanatics are not seeing the bigger picture. Corruption favors no one but the perpetrators only.
I wonder oooooh,
for once why dont they seperate politic from Nigeria state on this issues,
i repeat, every thief (GOAT) must account for all the YAM the've eaten.

To all those not in agreement of making all the goat to account for our yam, join hand whatever side you belong.
Nigeria must move forward, all government afficials must be held accountable
Re: Nigeria by omenka(m): 11:03am On Dec 04, 2015
All those implicated in this fraud from Sambo Dasuki, Attahiru Bafarawa and his son, Raymond Dokpesi, the Generals and those yet to be arrested must be made to face the Full wrath of the law whether they are fulani, yoruba, ijaw, Igbo, Ibibio, nupe,
Kowa, PDP or APC.

Justice must be served! Every goat that fed fat on the yams meant for the security of the country shall know no peace
I have nothing more to say.
Re: Nigeria by kaboninc(m): 12:09pm On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
I was shocked when I heard/and read of the arrest of High Chief Raymond Dokpesi over his connection with the alleged diversion of $2.2 billion or N640billion meant for arms purchase. Raymond Dokpesi was not a public office holder, he isn't a military chief, neither is he an ex-military man. He isn't a known security contractor. So how did Dokpesi come in contact with N2.1 billion meant for arms purchase? I couldn't answer these questions. I had to wait for his own statement. Fortunately, his DAAR office released a statement which I quote in part...

"Dokpesi explained to the EFCC officials that the N2.1 billion that he collected from the former NSA was payment for for publicity and media political campaigns during the 2015 General Elections.”.

Explanation Defies Logic...
Sincerely, the explanation of High Chief Dokpesi has several flaws and loopholes. I mean why should we believe Dokpesi that the N2.1 billion paid into his account was for political campaign publicity when the NSA office under Sambo Dasuki was not the Directorate of Finance of PDP Presidential Campaign organisation(PDPPCO)? Was Col Dasuki Sambo the Director of Finance for PDP Presidential Campaign organisation? If there was need for media publicity deal between the PDPPCO and DAAR Communication, was it not the duty of the Director of Publicity (PDPPCO) Fani Kayode to negotiate such deal? If there should be any payment, was it not the duty of Senator (Mrs) Nenadi Usman, the Finance Director of PDPPCO? Wouldn't the money come from the purse of PDPPCO? Is the nation's treasury co-owned by the PDPPCO? How do we now explain the connection between N2.1billion from our treasury to Raymond Dokpesi? Is Dokpesi in any way trying to tell us that Sambo Dasuki on behalf of PDPPCO diverted monies meant for arms purchase for political media publicity of PDP?

PDPPCO Denies Raymond Dokpesi
While pondering on Dokpesi's claim that the whopping N2.1 billion was meant for political campaign, the PDPPCO campaign Director of Media and Publicity, Mr Fani Kayode only recently denies ever having any deal with Dokpesi. An excerpt from his statement reads...

“As far as we are concerned, we don’t have anything to do with the payment made to Dokpesi for publicity.

“Dokpesi is not part of the Presidential Campaign Organisation. We have the structure; you know the Director General, you know the directors. We did not spend one kobo from the public fund."


I believe that someone isn't telling the truth. We need to see the contractual papers between PDPPCO and Dokpesi to determine whether or not PDPPCO was really involved in the N2.1billion fraud.

Raymond Dokpesi Indicted Sambo Dasuki
Without sounding emotional, I believe that Dokpesi's statement though not convincing has further indicted Sambo Dasuki in this arms purchase fraud saga. It is incumbent on Sambo Dasuki to come clean by explaining how N2.1 billion of Nigeria's fund meant for arms procurement moved to Dokpesi's account without even the knowledge of the former finance minister Okonjo Iwaela. Sambo must explain to us how a whopping N4.6 billion manoeuvred into Attahiru Bafarawa's account when he (Bafarawa) is neither a military consultant nor a legitimate arms dealer if truly Bafarwas got such money. Were they using the boko haram menace as "business"?

Justice Not Drama...
It is a very big shame that funds in the tune of N640 billion that was meant for our soldiers and security agents to secure the federation especially the North-East was siphoned by those in position of trust and their allies. The effect of their theft resulted in loss of gallant officers, civilians and properties. It has made some people orphan, some widows, some physically and psychologically disabled, while some lost their homes and means of livelihood. All those fingered in this fraud from Sambo Dasuki, Attahiru Bafarawa and his son, Raymond Dokpesi, the Generals and those yet to be arrested must be made to face the full wrath of the law whether they are fulani, yoruba, ijaw, Igbo, Ibibio, nupe, Kowa, PDP or APC. Justice must be served! Every goat that fed fat on the yams meant for the security of the country shall know no peace

I am ending this piece by expressing 'great' disappointment in Dr Goodluck Jonathan for allowing this monumental fraud to go unchecked under his watch. I don't want to believe that GEJ benefited financially from the whole arrangement for now. I am patiently waiting for the investigators' report. Only God knows how many more fraud were perpetrated by officials of the former administration and their allies across party and tribal line.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria
You do not need to express 'great' disappointment in GEJ. We all know what it means to be with the 'happening' team. So if the media can go all out to say that Dieziani stole 13 billion pounds, you also do not need to express great disappointment in GEJ.

You need to really consider what you stand for, how you stand for it.

I only hope and fear that you are not what I'm thinking you to be.....a turn coat!

God bless us and give us a spirit of objectivity.
Re: Nigeria by philips70(m):
TonyeBarcanista:
Yes, PDP Governments in the past either lack the political will or turn blind eye to thes fraudulent acts but it doesn't exonerate perpetrators of the act irrespective of partisan leaning. One thing I admire about this government is the show of political will. That's commendable and we hope to see it spread across all thieves irrespective of whether umbrella or broom.
I commend your strength in accepting to take a look back to realign yourself back to where you should be. Truth of the matter is at this time in our national life, reasonable people should shelve party or regional affiliation to fight for the soul of the country. These guys destroyed every fabric of our society. We are talking about monies meant to save lives that were dying daily.
Re: Nigeria by modath(f): 1:09pm On Dec 04, 2015
omenka:
I have nothing more to say.
I too don't have much to say these days cos the kind of evil that exists in Nigerians just make me weak, mind boggling figures & revelations. just SMH & pass!!! sad

How ya doing?
Re: Nigeria by GambaOsaka: 1:27pm On Dec 04, 2015
Our primary problem in Africa (and it is responsible for our backwardness), is the fact that naturally we have a WICKED HEART.
How can you come here and argue based on political party, tribal or whatever inclinations.

There is evidence of that the money meant for weapon purchase was siphoned by some B@$ta*D's and instead of looking at the situation objectively , some ignorant and blind sychophants are praising GEJ.

I don't need to talk much but if you are sure of whatever point you have in support of his crazy government that got our Country into this mess we are in, just pray sincerely from your heart aloud that 'May God lead your life as GEJ lead Nigeria'.

People are making money from the insurgency while closing their eyes to the daily calamities happening in the Northeast.

Argh....... God almighty where is your face? These people must not go unpunished. They have inflicted a lifetime scar on our lives in this country.
Re: Nigeria by nduchucks: 1:36pm On Dec 04, 2015
Has anyone wondered why the typically outspoken Okupe has been unusually silent? I suspect he receieved funds from the usual suspect as well. barayi
Re: Nigeria by katerine7(f): 2:03pm On Dec 04, 2015
[quote author=DebateNigeria post=40675763][/quote]i guess i'm beginning to know the real you
Re: Nigeria by TonyeBarcanista(op): 2:17pm On Dec 04, 2015
kaboninc:
You do not need to express 'great' disappointment in GEJ. We all know what it means to be with the 'happening' team. So if the media can go all out to say that Dieziani stole 13 billion pounds, you also do not need to express great disappointment in GEJ.

You need to really consider what you stand for, how you stand for it.

I only hope and fear that you are not what I'm thinking you to be.....a turn coat!

God bless us and give us a spirit of objectivity.
See guy, I think my post should tell you that I don't relegate the country's interest for those of the morally bankrupt in the society. I don't need you to patrionise me or praise me.... I never sought for that.

It is okay if you don't share my view, it is actually your business not mine. But it is silly for you to think that I give a damn to whatever negative perception you have of me. Please, swerve!
Re: Nigeria by TonyeBarcanista(op): 2:22pm On Dec 04, 2015
philips70:
I commend your strength in accepting to take a look back to realign yourself back to where you should be. Truth of the matter is at this time in our national life, reasonable people should shelve party or regional affiliation to fight for the soul of the country. These guys destroyed every fabric of our society. We are talking about monies meant to save lies that were dying daily.
Just last year, the FG collected loan of $1billion (N200billion) for arms procurement. This loan means that myself, my future children and every Nigerians are indebted to our creditors. But what happened? Some few bastards shared the money among themselves. And someone will come here to screem his party name? Damn!
Re: Nigeria by omenka(m): 2:30pm On Dec 04, 2015
modath:
I too don't have much to say these days cos the kind of evil that exists in Nigerians just make me weak, mind boggling figures & revelations. just SMH & pass!!! sad

How ya doing?
I'm okay my dear. I share your sentiments honestly.
Sometimes it's such a herculean task keeping one's head intact in the midst of all the revelations of rot that characterised the immediate past admin, and more disgusting is the attitude of some people whom, if I must add, were no less victims of the corruption Baba is fighting against than ourselves- yet, our of nothing but deep seated but misplaced hatred for the person of the president, they've insisted on seeing no propriety in the president's methods.

Sometimes I just wish desperately I didn't share a common country with those guys.
Re: Nigeria by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
I was shocked when I heard/and read of the arrest of High Chief Raymond Dokpesi over his connection with the alleged diversion of $2.2 billion or N640billion meant for arms purchase.
U ve really made sooooo much sense today!
Re: Nigeria by NgeneUkwenu(f): 2:37pm On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
See guy, I think my post should tell you that I don't relegate the country's interest for those of the morally bankrupt in the society. I don't need you to patrionise me or praise me.... I never sought for that.

It is okay if you don't share my view, it is actually your business not mine. But it is silly for you to think that I give a damn to whatever negative perception you have of me. Please, swerve!
Learn to ignore these heartless beings...! They want Nigeria destroyed, so that they will turn around and mock, call and tag it a ZOO!
Re: Nigeria by IbokUtoroh(m): 2:42pm On Dec 04, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:
And That's exactly why PDP Was The Problem. Those people you listed were not under immunity during Jonathana's time bar Amaechi, what stopped the Corrupt jonathan from Going after them?
na now I know say u be real zombie, Jonathan probe a govr who equally has immunity?
r u for real?
y buhari no probe okorocha or wada now or aregbe wey dey mess up anyhow! cos he cant, the constitution doesnt permit that cos they r immuned to some things.
Re: Nigeria by porshuch: 2:43pm On Dec 04, 2015
BARCANISTA FOR YOUTH PRESIDENT.

HOPE WAILERS WILL ACCEPT THIS IN GOOD FAITH.

SAI BUHARI
SAI TONYEBARCANISTA
Re: Nigeria by Nobody: 2:47pm On Dec 04, 2015
Horlufemi:
He has seen the light and he has become more objective.
it is dificut even for d devil to defend d calamities of d formal administration!
Re: Nigeria by Nobody: 2:48pm On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Just last year, the FG collected loan of $1billion (N200billion) for arms procurement. This loan means that myself, my future children and every Nigerians are indebted to our creditors. But what happened? Some few bastards shared the money among themselves. And someone will come here to screem his party name? Damn!
May you live long. By now series of phone calls and meetings must be going between the thiefs in the last administration. They are trembling cos they know dasuki wont want to go down alone. I think there is no way GEJ wont be implicated if further revelations surfaces. He was a good man but allowed so much impunity to thrive. my only dissapointment in this administration would be if no one goes to jail. Our futures and our unborn children's future have been looted and we have been turned to debtors for life. sad
Re: Nigeria by hahn(m): 2:54pm On Dec 04, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Yes, PDP Governments in the past either lack the political will or turn blind eye to thes fraudulent acts but it doesn't exonerate perpetrators of the act irrespective of partisan leaning. One thing I admire about this government is the show of political will. That's commendable and we hope to see it spread across all thieves irrespective of whether umbrella or broom.
Chairmo, your comments these days ehn grin
Re: Nigeria by Nobody: 3:00pm On Dec 04, 2015
modath:
I too don't have much to say these days cos the kind of evil that exists in Nigerians just make me weak, mind boggling figures & revelations. just SMH & pass!!! sad

How ya doing?
bawoni? smiley
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