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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Eshinwaju: 10:35pm On Dec 04, 2015
zendy:


If you look at the top of the Nigerian passport, you will see "ECOWAS" embossed on it. What this means is that any of the 15 member nation in the ECOWAS sub-region can travel, live and work in each other's countries, including Nigeria, without the need for visa or work permit. Biafra will apply to join ECOWAS and that application is likely to be accepted since Biafra is in West Africa and used to be a member under Nigeria. When Biafra joins ECOWAS, they will be free to travel to any part of Nigeria, live and work without any work permit unless Nigeria pulls out of ECOWAS.

Be deceiving yourself there.......ask Nigerians living in Ghana whether they need work permit or not and then come back here to talk nonsense.... angry.....olodo...

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Spicygal: 10:47pm On Dec 04, 2015
90days.

old2boy:
How long is the ECOWAS visa free travel stay?

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by badnature: 11:34pm On Dec 04, 2015
what will Biafrans be doing in Nigeria? osun state is typical example of what will be of Nigeria,and some states will even be worst,with the coming of Biafra Nigeria will look like Eritrea

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by blaqoracle: 12:21am On Dec 05, 2015
zendy:


If you look at the top of the Nigerian passport, you will see "ECOWAS" embossed on it. What this means is that any of the 15 member nation in the ECOWAS sub-region can travel, live and work in each other's countries, including Nigeria, without the need for visa or work permit. Biafra will apply to join ECOWAS and that application is likely to be accepted since Biafra is in West Africa and used to be a member under Nigeria. When Biafra joins ECOWAS, they will be free to travel to any part of Nigeria, live and work without any work permit unless Nigeria pulls out of ECOWAS.
Then Nigeria will pull out of ecowas

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by mikolo80: 2:24am On Dec 05, 2015
EternalTruths:
Wrong


It is Nigerians who will troop to former SE Nigeria for jobs cool
i like your confidence. how many are trooping Now between biafrans and non biafrans. self delusion sweet o

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 6:27am On Dec 05, 2015
mikolo80:
i like your confidence. how many are trooping Now between biafrans and non biafrans. self delusion sweet o


Who are the greatest importers in Nigeria.? Igbos

With our resources , we will finance those companies to build their factories in the former SE of Nigeria

Also we will finance our indigenous industries cool
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by mikolo80: 6:45am On Dec 05, 2015
EternalTruths:



Who are the greatest importers in Nigeria.? Igbos

With our resources , we will finance those companies to build their factories in the former SE of Nigeria

Also we will finance our indigenous industries cool


you import 100 you sell 99 consume 1
when you vex Waka and Yoruba replace you here where the market is over 100 milliom who will you sell to in the east
don't forget no Nigerian will buy from you just to treat your fuckup

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 6:50am On Dec 05, 2015
mikolo80:
you import 100 you sell 99 consume 1
when you vex Waka and Yoruba replace you here where the market is over 100 milliom who will you sell to in the east
don't forget no Nigerian will buy from you just to treat your fuckup


Once those companies we import from spring up in the former Eastern Nigeria and our indigenous industries becomes strengthened, the products they manufacture will be exported worldwide

So we don't need your market cool

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by mikolo80: 7:05am On Dec 05, 2015
EternalTruths:



Once those companies we import from spring up in the former Eastern Nigeria and our indigenous industries becomes strengthened, the products they manufacture will be exported worldwide

So we don't need your market cool
you no do am since 50 yrs na Now you go do am?
even South Africa is moving all their biz here cos we are the most viable market. what happens when we decide to play tribalism and refuse to buy Ibo products ,what then? that since you don't like us you should also not like our money

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Nobody: 7:05am On Dec 05, 2015
EternalTruths:



Once those companies we import from spring up in the former Eastern Nigeria and our indigenous industries becomes strengthened, the products they manufacture will be exported worldwide

So we don't need your market cool
you reason like a kid. Nnamdi kanu did a good job in brainwashing you to think biafra will be an utopia.
And pls, stop including SS in your silly dream cos they don't belong to you.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by forgiveness: 7:56am On Dec 05, 2015
old2boy:
Just watching the development so far and pondering if Nigeria without Biafra will benefit by making money from work permits and taxation of 'foreign' businesses.

Is there any Political scientist in the house to enlighten us?

First of all, If Biafra pulls out of Nigeria there will be nothing called Nigeria. Every nations in Nigeria will automatically or forcefully part ways. If they part ways peacefully, foreign businesses could remain in some parts of the seceded nations which simply mean they will make money, but if they part ways forcefully, foreign businesses will desert the Nations and every ethnic groups will be afraid to sojourn in any of these hostile Nation. Nobody go even think of applying for visa. Even if na free self.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 8:03am On Dec 05, 2015
Riensi:
What is left of Nigeria when Biafra goes will be one of the poorest country in the universe. What biafran will want to live there?

Because Biafrans are kind. we will always send relief materials through redcross

Correct!

If Biafra pulls out of the zoo, most of the current non Igbo speaking ethnicities in current SS will either stand on their own as independent countries or join Biafra.

What will be left of Nigeria will be an Islamic Sharia republic of Arewa-Oduanistan between Arewa and Odua, Yes! Arewa won't let the Yorubas off the hook easily just as Sudan held unto Dafur.

With the petrodollars from SS now gone, Arewa-Oduanistan will not have the funds to sustain their current military campaign in NE against radical Islamist elements, other Islamic Jihadists will notice that and capitalize by increasing funds to Boko Haram, the end result will be that the NE, NW NC and SW will be overrun by Shekau troops, the presence of native Muslim groups in those regions will make this very easy, as they will serve as ready fifth columnists.

In summary, no sane Igbo or Biafran would want to be live or work in a future Arewa-Oduanistan country.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by oyinkinola: 9:44am On Dec 05, 2015
The thruth is that the division of Nigeria is far more beyond the capacity of any Nigerian, who ever dreaming of the break up of Nigeria is wasting their time and life, because the only country the Britain proud of in Africa is whole Nigeria. Britain would never support any motion of division of Nigeria in UN!
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by zendy: 10:02am On Dec 05, 2015
Saturn213:


This is the stupidity of IPOB and their members

You dont think things through. You are all shortsighted


Go and read the ECOWAS rules. All member countries must agree to admit any additional member. So Nigeria has to sign and approve Biafra membership before they can be admitted. Any member can veto Biafra membership application.

In case you are not aware, one of the major reasons why the Scottish referendum failed is because the EU could not guarantee their automatic membership of the body. The UK and Spain would have vetoed it straight away. Why do you think Turkey will probably never join the EU? Greece, Cyprus will rather die than allow it.

You know what means, dont you?

I will bet you dont!


[b] What is shortsighted about people who want their freedom and right to self determination? If anyone is shortsighted, it is Nigerians and their wish to hold on to the "British invented fraud" called Nigeria.We are talkng about ECOWAS and West Africa here not the EU or Europe. While it is true that ECOWAS members have a vote on who joins the group, nobody has unilateral veto powers. Article 9 of the ECOWAS charter which deals with decision making States:

"Unless otherwise provided in this Treaty or in a Protocol decisions of the Authority shall be adopted, depending on the subject matter under consideration by unanimity, consensus or, by a two-thirds majority of the Member States"

Biafra will need only two-thirds of the vote to join ECOWAS. Besides Nigeria, I don't think there will be any other country opposed to Biafra joining. Nigeria can opt out of ECOWAS a if not happy. You mentioned the Scottish referendum. Isn't it Ironic that Britain that created Nigeria gave one of its constituent parts a referendum last year, but when Biafrans ask for a referendum as a peaceful way to resolve the Biafran issue, you Nigerians will start shouting

Treason!

One Nigeria!

War!

Quite laughable if you ask me. You guys better start getting used to Biafra because it is here to stay [/b]

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by KinkyAngela(f): 10:39am On Dec 05, 2015
pazienza:


Correct!

If Biafra pulls out of the zoo, most of the current non Igbo speaking ethnicities in current SS will either stand on their own as independent countries or join Biafra.

What will be left of Nigeria will be an Islamic Sharia republic of Arewa-Oduanistan between Arewa and Odua, Yes! Arewa won't let the Yorubas off the hook easily just as Sudan held unto Dafur.

With the petrodollars from SS now gone, Arewa-Oduanistan will not have the funds to sustain their current military campaign in NE against radical Islamist elements, other Islamic Jihadists will notice that and capitalize by increasing funds to Boko Haram, the end result will be that the NE, NW NC and SW will be overrun by Shekau troops, the presence of native Muslim groups in those regions will make this very easy, as they will serve as ready fifth columnists.

In summary, no sane Igbo or Biafran would want to be live or work in a future Arewa-Oduanistan country.
Nna, see Akpu induced Biafra hypothesis/fantasy

Even Nnamdi Azikiwe, who composed the Biafra national anthem the last time, eventually ran away from Biafra at the twilight of the war to support Nigeria against his own Biafra people . LWKMD

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Saturn213: 11:22am On Dec 05, 2015
zendy:


[b] What is shortsighted about people who want their freedom and right to self determination? If anyone is shortsighted, it is Nigerians and their wish to hold on to the "British invented fraud" called Nigeria.We are talkng about ECOWAS and West Africa here not the EU or Europe. While it is true that ECOWAS members have a vote on who joins the group, nobody has unilateral veto powers. Article 9 of the ECOWAS charter which deals with decision making States:

"Unless otherwise provided in this Treaty or in a Protocol decisions of the Authority shall be adopted, depending on the subject matter under consideration by unanimity, consensus or, by a two-thirds majority of the Member States"

Biafra will need only two-thirds of the vote to join ECOWAS. Besides Nigeria, I don't think there will be any other country opposed to Biafra joining. Nigeria can opt out of ECOWAS a if not happy. You mentioned the Scottish referendum. Isn't it Ironic that Britain that created Nigeria gave one of its constituent parts a referendum last year, but when Biafrans ask for a referendum as a peaceful way to resolve the Biafran issue, you Nigerians will start shouting

Treason!

One Nigeria!

War!

Quite laughable if you ask me. You guys better start getting used to Biafra because it is here to stay [/b]

Writing in bold does not make your point any stronger. It is very distracting.

Just like a typical Ipob member, you keep talking from both sides of your mouth.

You agree that any member can veto Biafra membership then you decided to degrade your argument by quoting a paragraph on decision making.

Article 9 you referenced is qualified majority voting which is used in decision making on issues such as single market, directives etc. It is not applicable for admitting new member nations

When it comes to a new entrant; All countries must agree. Nigeria will not agree and I am sure countries such as Benin Republic , Togo will do Nigeria's bidding.

Anyway that is putting the cart before the horse.

You keep making a comparison to Scotland but what you fail to realise is that the Scottish Independence movement is made up of intellectuals, academics and politicians. They provided evidence of how their country will be constituted if they got independence, from oil treaties with Norway, decommissioning of nuclear facilities. They had several bases covered before asking for independence. The Scottish people saw evidence of how their country will function if they leave the union.

It is not like Ipod run by an illiterate that goes on radio calling for the massacre of Nigerians and calling Leaders names and asking for his supporters to murder a well know Nigerian Pastor. He was even caught on video asking for money to buy arms. This is an unprofessional illiterate with no common sense.

The Scottish spent years trying to convince their people, they then formed a party - the SNP. After decades of campaigning, they got majority of political seats in the Scottish Parliament. Even after that, it took them years to convince the UK government to agree to a referendum. The whole process took over 50 years. It is a separation and not a tea party.

When Igbos are serious, they will vote for a party that wants Biafra independence, they will make them senators, HORs and governors. After that they can negotiate with the Nigerian state for a referendum.

You just dont wake up one morning and start shouting Referendum. It will take decades of negotiations and talks.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by ba7man(m): 11:41am On Dec 05, 2015
zendy:


If you look at the top of the Nigerian passport, you will see "ECOWAS" embossed on it. What this means is that any of the 15 member nation in the ECOWAS sub-region can travel, live and work in each other's countries, including Nigeria, without the need for visa or work permit. Biafra will apply to join ECOWAS and that application is likely to be accepted since Biafra is in West Africa and used to be a member under Nigeria. When Biafra joins ECOWAS, they will be free to travel to any part of Nigeria, live and work without any work permit unless Nigeria pulls out of ECOWAS.
Abeg Biafra should join central Africa and go mingle with dem Congo, Cameroon and the likes. angry angry angry

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Omololu007(m): 12:02pm On Dec 05, 2015
ba7man:
Abeg Biafra should join central Africa and go mingle with dem Congo, Cameroon and the likes. angry angry angry

lol grin

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Nobody: 12:38pm On Dec 05, 2015
lmao. that's really shallow. Nigeria as the economic giant of Africa doesn't need ECOWAS for nothing. No Nigeria, No ECOWAS. We can pull out because of igbos.
zendy:



Then you pull out! ECOWAS is more important than Nigeria.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Noneroone(m): 1:19pm On Dec 05, 2015
old2boy:
Just watching the development so far and pondering if Nigeria without Biafra will benefit by making money from work permits and taxation of 'foreign' businesses.

Is there any Political scientist in the house to enlighten us?
check Nigeria well and find out where you have industrial clusters

lagos portharcourt Aba onitsha nnewi and kano are the major ones.

4 of them will go to Biafra and the rest two or three will remain with the bigger Nigeria

Biafra managed to be ahead even with economic policies and critical infrastructure directed to favour nigerians

imagine a situation where biafrans have their resources all to themselves, develop their own infrastructure (like airport, seaports, power supply ) and create new industrial layouts.

Coupled with a very resourceful and educated population, it will become the most industrialised country in Africa within 15 yrs.

Now compare it with Nigeria which by then will be depending on agriculture and begging biafra to allow free trade so they could sell their agric produce. By then also lagos will suffer and possibly loose industries to Biafra. Coupled with millions of idle youths in north and west that are not as resourceful as biafrans, nigeria would be much more poorer then.

in summary, Nigeria would be the ones wooing biafran investors and even wooing to trade their agric products with biafra

so whichever way you look at, it will be a win for Biafra. That is why leaders of the north and west are fighting for one nigeria 'cos their lives depend on it. Only their kids come online and make infantile rants

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by MrAnalyst: 1:51pm On Dec 05, 2015
zendy:


If you look at the top of the Nigerian passport, you will see "ECOWAS" embossed on it. What this means is that any of the 15 member nation in the ECOWAS sub-region can travel, live and work in each other's countries, including Nigeria, without the need for visa or work permit. Biafra will apply to join ECOWAS and that application is likely to be accepted since Biafra is in West Africa and used to be a member under Nigeria. When Biafra joins ECOWAS, they will be free to travel to any part of Nigeria, live and work without any work permit unless Nigeria pulls out of ECOWAS.

Interesting. But still,if I may,are you certain Biafra will join ECOWAS?
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by MrAnalyst: 1:58pm On Dec 05, 2015
zendy:



The 'Ghana must go' crises happend in the 1980's. At that time, Nigeria had not yet signed the 1993 ECOWAS treaty on freedom of movement that was later ratified in 2007.



I pray thee,certainly Seun must device a ploy to weed out illiterates from our midst. This is becoming embarrassing. Thanks for educating them.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by MrAnalyst: 2:07pm On Dec 05, 2015
mikolo80:
you no do am since 50 yrs na Now you go do am?
even South Africa is moving all their biz here cos we are the most viable market. what happens when we decide to play tribalism and refuse to buy Ibo products ,what then? that since you don't like us you should also not like our money

Will Nigeria be Biafra's only buyers? Come off it. Nigeria refusing to buy biafran products cannot really happen and even in the advent of such,Nigerians refusing to buy will be hugely inconsequential to the Biafran market
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by MrAnalyst: 2:11pm On Dec 05, 2015
oyinkinola:
The thruth is that the division of Nigeria is far more beyond the capacity of any Nigerian, who ever dreaming of the break up of Nigeria is wasting their time and life, because the only country the Britain proud of in Africa is whole Nigeria. Britain would never support any motion of division of Nigeria in UN!

Yes Britain would never support balkanization of it's former colony but then again,Biafra is not soliciting for their support anyway
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by forgiveness: 2:33pm On Dec 05, 2015
Noneroone:
check Nigeria well and find out where you have industrial clusters

lagos portharcourt Aba onitsha nnewi and kano are the major ones.

4 of them will go to Biafra and the rest two or three will remain with the bigger Nigeria

Biafra managed to be ahead even with economic policies and critical infrastructure directed to favour nigerians

imagine a situation where biafrans have their resources all to themselves, develop their own infrastructure (like airport, seaports, power supply ) and create new industrial layouts.

Coupled with a very resourceful and educated population, it will become the most industrialised country in Africa within 15 yrs.

Now compare it with Nigeria which by then will be depending on agriculture and begging biafra to allow free trade so they could sell their agric produce. By then also lagos will suffer and possibly loose industries to Biafra. Coupled with millions of idle youths in north and west that are not as resourceful as biafrans, nigeria would be much more poorer then.

in summary, Nigeria would be the ones wooing biafran investors and even wooing to trade their agric products with biafra

so whichever way you look at, it will be a win for Biafra. That is why leaders of the north and west are fighting for one nigeria 'cos their lives depend on it. Only their kids come online and make infantile rants

Hmm! The man who knows tomorrow has spoken. All Nigerians take heed to his prophetic words for he is a Prophet. grin
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 3:02pm On Dec 05, 2015
KinkyAngela:
Nna, see Akpu induced Biafra hypothesis/fantasy

Even Nnamdi Azikiwe, who composed the Biafra national anthem the last time, eventually ran away from Biafra at the twilight of the war to support Nigeria against his own Biafra people . LWKMD

The scenario I painted is exactly what awaits Arewa-Oduanistan Post Biafra secession, it doesn't take much to see that.

Zik is but an Individual, both he and Ojukwu are dead, yet the Biafran dream rages on, Biafra is the voice of a people, not individuals.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by OJUcrook: 4:18pm On Dec 05, 2015
pazienza:


The scenario I painted is exactly what awaits Arewa-Oduanistan Post Biafra secession, it doesn't take much to see that.

Zik is but an Individual, both he and Ojukwu are dead, yet the Biafran dream rages on, Biafra is the voice of a people, not individuals.
Mister
The last time out, you were the one begging your enemies, those whom you were fighting against, to give you food.
Your children were the one dieing of starvation, kwarshiorkor and protein deficiency with sulken eye balls, flat cheeks, bloated stomachs and a rib-bone-transparent chest.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 5:05pm On Dec 05, 2015
OJUcrook:
Mister
The last time out, you were the one begging your enemies, those whom you were fighting against, to give you food.
Your children were the one dieing of starvation, kwarshiorkor and protein deficiency with sulken eye balls, flat cheeks, bloated stomachs and a rib-bone-transparent chest.

The last time, you had USSR, Britain and Egypt supplying you unlimited amount of weapons, yet for every one Biafran soldier that died in battle, 6 Arewa-Oduanistanis were killed, last time around you couldn't win by conventional means, so you resorted to unconventional means.

I have news for you, if you are still itching for Biafran blood to spill, be rest assured that the world is in the ICT age, you wouldn't get unlimited supply of weapon from Britain nor USSR support now, your starvation policy will not be tolerated by the world in this ICT age, your Arab partners would rather supply weapons to Boko haram to establish an Islamic Sharia state in NE, NC, NW and SW, while you were busy fighting Biafrans and left your territories and people defenseless.

Furthermore, you have next to nothing to offer the world powers to fight your battle for you, and unlike in 60's Africa have another giant in form of South Africa, so you are not going to get AU queuing behind you like you did in 60's, those countries hate you and would gladly see to your destruction.

You are currently financially too broke to finance a Two pronged war in NE and Biafra.

So, while you stay in your neck of woods full of thirst for Biafran blood like demons you are, I would advise you to check your cards well, and see that the dynamics that gave you the advantage in 60's had all changed and non Of them is in your favour.

Be advised.

God bless Biafra!
Death to those who wish harm to Biafra and Biafrans.
Peace to men of Goodwill and lovers of wisdom.

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Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Dedetwo(m): 5:09pm On Dec 05, 2015
Spicygal:
Yes they do.


Then Biafrans will require work permit to work in Nigeria as Nigerians will require work permit to work in Biafra.
Re: Will Biafrans Need Work Permit In Nigeria? by Dedetwo(m): 5:12pm On Dec 05, 2015
Eshinwaju:


Be deceiving yourself there.......ask Nigerians living in Ghana whether they need work permit or not and then come back here to talk nonsense.... angry.....olodo...

It is a matter of push and pull. Nigerians will also require work permit to work in Biafra. Nigeria has never been a heaven and will likely not be a heaven when the Biafrans leave.

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