When can it be said that a man and a woman have become married? When both families have met each other and the bride price has been paid (according to the African tradition). Going to the registry and the church are mere fomalities. What makes people think having a church marriage will bless the union and make it last longer?? Our forefathers did not perform any church marriage yet their unions lasted longer than what we have today..
Religion and Tradition are two different things that should not be mixed..but thts a discussion for another day

nnahernest:
my brother,don't encourage fornication,before I say anything read Hebrew 13:4 the bible said,marriage must be holy,with the marital bed undefiled,whoremongers and adulteries God will judge,
secondly saying they only look after those who are pregnant so as to punish them and leave those who commit premarital sex you are wrong,in my church,if you have had sex with your wife to be no wedding,that is the correct standard of Christ,the bible said,if the foundation is faulty what those the righteous do,and the bible still said,the righteous has nothing to do,so therefore you can't start your marriage on a faulty foundation of fornication
3rdly,marriage in the scripture happened then before the establishment of church,and no church will tell you not to do traditional marriage, but what they avoid is pouring libation to the ancestors,which happens in almost every traditional marriage,and by the time you do that,you are connect the couples to the spirit of there forefathers,that is why most marriages experience what they don't know about,which is against the scripture in exodus 20:1_10,for more clarification add me on whatsapp, 07039476669

Agreeable, I still believe that church weddings are overrated. Marriages in the bible where all based on the belief and culture of the people towards God which could be said as traditional. God honors traditional marriages in the act of paying the bride price however every act that would seem to be idolatry is contrary to God.

TruthHurts1:

Apart from opening yourself to criticism, you've shown yourself up to be very stupid too. There are so many references to marriage in the Bible:

Mark 10 VS 8 to 9; 1 Corinthians 7:1 - 7:40 - Ephesians 5:22 -
5:33 - Ephesians 5:25 - 5:33

Just to mention a few.

Secondly, you're confusing "wedding" with "marriage". Wedding is a ceremony, marriage is an institution.
The Bible laid down the template of a Christian marriage as the voluntary union of a man and woman for the rest of their lives. What manner of ceremony they choose in solemnising their union does not matter as long as the SUBSTANCE of the union complies with Biblical standards.
I sense you are not a Christian and that may account for your ignorance. And if indeed you call yourself a Christian, it is possible you may be living a lie. Read the Bible well before disparaging it, or God's wrath will abide on you.

I've checked all the bible quotations you mentioned, none of them has a bearing on the topic the OP opened and logically discussed. The only thing you have succeeded in doing is to insult and attack his opinion and person, holy as you are.

His points are clear, it's anyone's personal choice to do church wedding or not. A woman becomes your wife once she accepts to marry you, takes you to her parents and their kinsmen. Once they accept you and your bride price, FINISH. You can proceed to register the marriage legally in a court or marriage registry. Any other thing elaborate will be considered showmanship by choice or pressure from the society that knows nothing about your financial standing.

Totally agreeable.... Church weddings are not from the bible. The bible spoke abt the customs of dowry payment which is followed by blessing from the priest and then the party begins.

Op, please believe what you want to believe and leave others. There are many references of wedding/marriage in the scripture. In the old testament the Jews were given instruction on how marriage should go. Isn't that enough to tell you is godly and biblical? You lumped different issues about some of problems with our contemporary christian life with your post about wedding. Again, believe whatever you want to believe.

God recognizes any marriage covenant between a man and woman (in the presence of witnesses-family and friends) as binding, legal and eternal irrespective of location (shrine,mosque,court,house or church), facilitator (imam, native priest, pastor or court registrar) and situation (dressing, time and prevailing conditions).

we tend to virtually copy everything the white does, ranging halloween, church wedding and lots more. have u asked ourselves how many time the whites has copy any of our tradition like new yam festival, oro festival etc? suffice to add here that once the traditional marriage is done, d woman is legally unless u intend to do a church blessing. I pray say we no go copy soteee go copy d one way go hook us for neck

djmally:
God recognizes any marriage covenant between a man and woman (in the presence of witnesses-family and friends) as binding, legal and eternal irrespective of location (shrine,mosque,court,house or church), facilitator (imam, native priest, pastor or court registrar) and situation (dressing, time and prevailing conditions).

Hehehehehe
No marriage is eternal, as long as it is consummated on planet earth.

How can a mortal's marriage bestow immortality?

Marriage starts and ends here, in mortality, that's why they say "till death do us part".

Church wedding/marriage is not Biblical period. Church doctrine/rules/practices are also not Biblical. Hmmmm.... some churches.... pregnancy test for fornication...how dumb. ... and why stop at the sin of fornication only?

nnahernest:
my brother,don't encourage fornication,before I say anything read Hebrew 13:4 the bible said,marriage must be holy,with the marital bed undefiled,whoremongers and adulteries God will judge,
secondly saying they only look after those who are pregnant so as to punish them and leave those who commit premarital sex you are wrong,in my church,if you have had sex with your wife to be no wedding,that is the correct standard of Christ,the bible said,if the foundation is faulty what those the righteous do,and the bible still said,the righteous has nothing to do,so therefore you can't start your marriage on a faulty foundation of fornication
3rdly,marriage in the scripture happened then before the establishment of church,and no church will tell you not to do traditional marriage, but what they avoid is pouring libation to the ancestors,which happens in almost every traditional marriage,and by the time you do that,you are connect the couples to the spirit of there forefathers,that is why most marriages experience what they don't know about,which is against the scripture in exodus 20:1_10,for more clarification add me on whatsapp, 07039476669

if u. have had sex in with your wife no wedding in your Church, pls how would they no u had had sex with your wife.

femidejulius:
Yesterday on this forum I read how a church bought sorrow to the life of a to-be couple by turning down their wedding even after people have been seated inside the church. A lot of churches nowadays will not give their nod to marriages because the wife to-be is already pregnant. Whilst this thread is in no way justifying pre marital sex, it does intend to open the mind of people to the truth about churches and their responsibilities as regards marriage and to save people from shame which might eventually lead them away from the church :

1. Church wedding is unchristian and unbiblical: Go through the bible and see for yourself. The weddings take place according to traditional belief. From this, traditional wedding is the acceptable wedding according to the bible.

2. These churches won't test for your virginity but will test for pregnancy. The result is that dos who have constant sexual intercourse but are smart enough not to get pregnant and those who have been severally pregnant but have done abortion are free to get married in the church. This is injustice by the church.

3. Lord don't despise sinners : Jesus throughout his life on earth is always seen amongst sinners. Remember the parable of the lost coin and the parable of the lost sheep. He said he came because of them. He will never turn them back. Okay, but the church will refuse to join the to-be couple together because they have sinned (she has indulge in pre marital sex). When you turn them down from the church, where do you expect them to go? A lot has since been discouraged from the church because of this.

4. Why do marriages still crash even after the wedding took place in the church? Why do even pastors wedding crash? Getting the "pastor's blessings" do not in any way guarantee your success in marriage. You don't necessarily need it.

5. I know some pastor and churches have turn the church wedding to money making venture. If you hear what they collect to make the church wedding happen in their church, una go fear fear. They ask for this and that before the wedding,but then, how much do they pay for salvation?
Conclusion: A traditional marriage is what actually makes you husband and wife. While there's nothing really wrong about with church marriage, it is actually avoidable. You aren't committing any sin by doing only traditional wedding.

NB: While these are my person opinions, I am open to criticism.

is this article yours? if yes, I will ask for the request to post on my blog and share with my followers. you made a valid point. I will require your name of social media username for reference if my request is granted.

and yes, will modify by addition. thanks in advance.

TruthHurts1:

Apart from opening yourself to criticism, you've shown yourself up to be very stupid too. There are so many references to marriage in the Bible:

Mark 10 VS 8 to 9; 1 Corinthians 7:1 - 7:40 - Ephesians 5:22 -
5:33 - Ephesians 5:25 - 5:33

Just to mention a few.

Secondly, you're confusing "wedding" with "marriage". Wedding is a ceremony, marriage is an institution.
The Bible laid down the template of a Christian marriage as the voluntary union of a man and woman for the rest of their lives. What manner of ceremony they choose in solemnising their union does not matter as long as the SUBSTANCE of the union complies with Biblical standards.
I sense you are not a Christian and that may account for your ignorance. And if indeed you call yourself a Christian, it is possible you may be living a lie. Read the Bible well before disparaging it, or God's wrath will abide on you.

Dude sorry to say but you a nuisance to this page. They is nothing in your quotes relating to church weddings. The bible only made mention of the traditional marriage of the Israelites in honor of God. In which the priest blesses the marriage.
I say we shd adopt this culture into ours not the churchly tins.

akaahs:
As u said is ur personal opinion but let me remind u is not evrytin that we do as Christians that is recorded in the bible. Secondly, the Church is there to help us or quide us to live a good moral life. Thirdly, if ur're born again in Christ Jesus it is presumed that u have leave ur old life (including traditional belief) and embrace d new life.

On ur 3rd point sir, I agree that once u become born again, u must leave ur old life behind but I do not agree with the fact that we must also leave our traditions behind. Jesus was a Jew and He observed Jewish traditions like the passover etc. He would only disregard a Jewish tradition if it was against his belief or if such tradition would interfere with the work he was sent to do. For instance, not working on the sabbath day is a Jewish tradition but Jesus disregarded this tradition several times because it would interfere with his work. Another Jewish tradition is that people should not associate themselves with the unclean i.e people with diseases like leprosy etc. Jesus also disregarded this tradition.
Sir, I believe the proper way to put that statement is that once we become born again, we should only leave behind part of our traditions that is not in line with our religion and not all of it.

THIS PEOPLE AGAINST CHURCH MARRIAGE...UNA WAN SPOIL BUSINESS FOR EVENT PLANNERS FOR RECEPTION?

As if i'll even follow any religious belief to get married! Mtcheeew! I'm sure even after all this we have read and how glaring it is truly. Some people would still come and start quoting some stupid lines from either of the books to prove these wrong.
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Thats una cup of tea sha!

Court / traditional marriage that's all for me.

nnahernest:
my brother,don't encourage fornication,before I say anything read Hebrew 13:4 the bible said,marriage must be holy,with the marital bed undefiled,whoremongers and adulteries God will judge,
secondly saying they only look after those who are pregnant so as to punish them and leave those who commit premarital sex you are wrong,in my church,if you have had sex with your wife to be no wedding,that is the correct standard of Christ,the bible said,if the foundation is faulty what those the righteous do,and the bible still said,the righteous has nothing to do,so therefore you can't start your marriage on a faulty foundation of fornication
3rdly,marriage in the scripture happened then before the establishment of church,and no church will tell you not to do traditional marriage, but what they avoid is pouring libation to the ancestors,which happens in almost every traditional marriage,and by the time you do that,you are connect the couples to the spirit of there forefathers,that is why most marriages experience what they don't know about,which is against the scripture in exodus 20:1_10,for more clarification add me on whatsapp, 07039476669

This is the problem, IGNORANCE:It's only the married that have a bed. The two people who gets joined together have a BED they share. If anyone of them goes out & have sex with someone who isn't their spouse, they defile the bed that's what Hebrews 13:4, Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled.... Is talking about. A single man or woman do not share their bed with anyone. So their sexual act doesn't, can't defile a married bed because they aren't joined to anyone. Please read & interpret scriptures in context...

oponu po lori forum yi sha!

akaahs:
As u said is ur personal opinion but let remind u is not evrytin that we do as Christian that is recorded in the bible. Secondly, the Church is there to help us or quide to live a good moral life. Thirdly, if ur're born again in Christ Jesus it is presumed that u have leave ur old life (including traditional belief) and embraced d new life.

And this takes the award for Biggest Bullshit Post of the Month

ayo527:



On ur 3rd point sir, I agree that once u become born again, u must leave ur old life behind but I do not agree with the fact that we must also leave our traditions behind. Jesus was a Jew and He observed Jewish traditions like the passover etc. He would only disregard a Jewish tradition if it was against his belief or if such tradition would interfere with the work he was sent to do. For instance, not working on the sabbath day is a Jewish tradition but Jesus disregarded this tradition several times because it would interfere with his work. Another Jewish tradition is that people should not associate themselves with the unclean i.e people with diseases like leprosy etc. Jesus also disregarded this tradition.
Sir, I believe the proper way to put that statement is that once we become born again, we should only leave behind part of our traditions that is not in line with our religion and not all of it.

Nice one...

I have no come to destroy the law but to fulfil it. Paul also made reference to culture when he spoke abt the woman's hair.

Pls people shd stop this nonsense of imbibing the cultures of others rather than serving God in truth and in spirit. Customs and traditions were designed for moral values. If your tradition doesn't serve or glorify God then change it to the way that does. Abandon the devil and his ways and serve the lord.

Paul didn't travel up and down destroying poles cultures but telling them to change mode of worship to a true God.

If you insist on changing the culture then stop being Yoruba, Hausa or Igbo and be yourself.

Let us not dispute unnecessarily abouth these things, we must do just as the bible teaches us, Jesus never spoke of a particular location where a wedding must be conducted, it is like we are overly concerned about the physicality of our actions, Jesus specifically says in the book of mark ch 10 vs 8:For this cause a man shall leave his mother and father and be clung to his wife, and they shall be joined together in one flesh, whatever God has joined together let no man put assunder. So let us discen this, a man leaves his mother and father and clings to his wife, there must be concent here, without which a man cannot cling to his wife, now in those days morality was at its peak, people rarely get married for wealth acquisition or material benefits, either by the parents or by any of the couples, so then when the parents approve a marriage God approves to, once they willingly concent, that is it, but today the same cannot be said, some parents marry their children out because of the material benefits they hope to derive from it, likewise some people also get married because of the material benefits they hope to derive from it, so the question now is does God approve of it. No ofcourse, God cannot be mocked, he does not approve of anything sham. It is important to be careful when we talk about traditional wedding, the isrealite state then was established by the doctrines instituted by God himself, so their traditional wedding were always according to the dictates of God, though i cant peak for those that deliberately deviate from the the pathe God layed down. So their traditional wedding was the dictate of God. The same cannot be said about our traditional weddings, i can say much about Muslims, asccording to general christian doctrines, our traditional stuffs are fetish. So if we are not sure of the Godliness of the complex marriage, why not do just the simplest, and the needful, obtain the concent of your parents when when you are sure you sincerely want to live with your to be wife or husband for the rest of your life, organize a small party that brings the two families together, thus cementing and formalizing the relationship and afterwards registering according to the laws of the land. The latter would not have been that important if the world was inorder. So the conclusion of the matter is the most important pre-requisite for a union is consent, i mean holy consent, without this God does not approve,this is the honour God gives your parents for accepting the responsibilty and doing the imperative. We will all have that honor, if we decide to get married. if you if you do a church wedding, its not sinful, its only an addition infact through that the church recognizes you as a couple, and it is a good thing to dicuss our woes and happiness with the people of the household of faith, as the bible directs. Whether overtly or covertly the holy consent is most important. God bless Nigeria. I rest my case.

As far as I know, in a catholic wedding, it is not the priest who marries the couple, but rather it is the man and woman who marry each other. They are the ones conferring the sacrament upon each other, it is not happening through the priest/deacon, as is the case with (some) other sacraments.

It is a way to express the unique unbreakable bound of love between two people in the presence of God, who models the perfect love which the marriage covenant aspires.

A really loving heart doesn't need a covenant...the love itself is the covenant. If love needs a promise, it isn't promising to me at all... To me love is the promise itself. Saying a promise or signing a covenant won't make my heart be any less or more strong in love. Real love can't break away, out of its own nature.

If there is an on or off button to it, it aint real love. Real love is scarce. But weddings are many... I guess this explains it all...

I won't say church wedding or wedding in the church is mandatory but the presence of a priest or the blessings of God through His servant is very very important. when God brought eve to Adam, I can say God is the bride's father and He's also the priest.. He blessed them and commanded them to be fruitful.. so u can be in your sitting room and in the presence of both parents be joined, but getting the blessings of God through His servant is Paramount. Remember u are now a member of God's kingdom, and ur family members also includes brothers and sisters of the same kingdom u belong to, so they need to be there as a witness too.its all the pomp and pageantry and excessive spending in the church that is not a compulsion.the presence of ur father and mother and ur pastor acting on behalf of God in the blessing of ur union is important
my two cents tho

adjoviomole:
Once ur wife is pregnant b4 marriage dats fornication. You have not wedded her n u got her pregnant.y shld d church join u 2geda?.



, Besides its nt by force to wed in d church,u can go to other places if u cannot abide by d churchs rule and d edicts of God according to d bible,no one will condemn u. God bless u

So if she gets pregnant but aborts, it is not fornication?

What about those who use condom and don't get pregnant?

Double standard hypocrites...our Lord had something to say about pretenders ... cast the first stone if you are without sin!

timity12:
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church wedding or No church wedding, the bible Laid emphasis on two becoming on one Gen 2:24 ,mathew 19:5-6. A Pastor joining a̶̲̥̅̊ pregnant bride 2gether is ̊ partaking in their sin. Hebrew 13:4. alternatively opting for traditional wedding with a̶̲̥̅̊ pregnant wife 2 be does not take their sins away, they must ask 4 forgiveness.

finally, the prayers of pastors 4 couples not necessary needed is wrong James 5:17 righteous man underlined pls, everything needs prayers. The prayers are not answered cos 8/10 brides most have slept with each other, they have laid faulty foundations for the marriage b4 it began.

I Agree wit OP, that white wedding is white culture but the bible talks about whatsoever things that are good,pure etc Phil 4:8. i̶̲̥̅̊ won't dwell on that bt rather dwell on why would-be-couples run from it

Cc: femidejulius

If a CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE does not happen in church, where then should it happen. You called something christian marriage and yet you are questioning the validity of it taking place in the church. Maybe Christians should go to Sango shrine to consumate their marriages. Read 1Cor. 6:1 and see how St. Paul discouraged Christian from taking their dispute to court, how much less their weddings.

Na una know o. Me I WILL do all three - Traditional, Registry and Court

fran6co:
people do it just to show off.... too bad after spending d marriage break up just weeks in

That's why the marriage crashes more often like a pack of cards because it is established on wrong foundation and desire.

At someone with a brain.

At last someone with a brain.