₦airaland Forum

Flyoruboy:
Facts don't lie Freeflobe.


If Una only go to Lag, why are you fighting for title in Oyo and getting flogged on Ondo?

Guy, why are you deceiving yourself? Fact: you Biafran igbos are contributing nothing to the Nigerian commonwealth which explains why inspite of your attention seeking noises the FG is calling your bluff. In other words, economically your region ain't shyt. And those fake stats about industrial clusters are nothing but mere fantasy coz even your own folks have long since admitted that y'all are lagging behind other parts of the country -- http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/rivers-state-others-have-overtaken-s-east-in-commerce-industry/

Ogun currently is the number 1 most industrialized state in Nigeria (attracting over 70 new manufacturing industries in the last 3 years with more still waiting in line for approval), followed by Lag. The SW contributes more non-oil revenue to the commonweal than any other region. The North contributes Agric. Pray tell what SE contributes? ?

Lol. Una hero Jonathan himself said it that the SW controls 55% of Nigeria's economy.

Excerpts:




And he wasn't lying when you consider the indices from Manufacturers Association of Nigeria's last report as follows:
The SW virtually controls/accounts for atleast 70% of industrial activity in Nigeria.

continue flogging that mumu with facts

Armaggedon:
its a lie. Lagos has the highest crime rate in nigeria and enugu has the lowest. Do you recall when apc protesters burnt luxury buses belonging to an igbo transporter earlier this year?

If peace is the factor why are other places in SW that are more peaceful than lagos still villages?

The truth is lagos enjoys special attention from fg govt starting from colonial times till now. Should the seaport in portharcourt or onitsha stop being a subject of politics, lagos will suffer. Which is why you guys hold on to one nigeria.

Coming to leadership sw has the worst in the country save fayose. Lagos has the largest dept profile despite huge revenue, what of osun? The leadership in the east is the most visionary but seems emasculated by fg's policies and u know that.

I also heard you mentioning disposable income in Sw. That is a height of delusion! Sw is the most impoverished region aside north. Why do you thing ibadan oshgbo abeokuta are slums while enugu onitsha aba owerri ph awka and asaba are bubbling?


as for dangote, we dont beg for his investment he knows that too. He also knows he would be outcompeted hence he conspired with obj to shut down ibeto plant in ph.

Like i said politics is the thing not your so called peace. Igboland is peaceful but nigeria is an igbophobic country

People migrate to the SW to make a living especially folks from SE because there's no money to be made in the SE, because people in the SW have stronger disposable income and because the economic atmosphere in the the SW is vibrant and beneficial.

People don't migrate to poor places or places where they can not make money or make a living so people migrate to the SW because there's economic opportunities there. On this basis alone, you are wrong.

Do you see folks from the SW or other parts of Nigerian troooping to the SE for anything.? No. Simply because there's zero economic opportunities there and even the people in the SE can not stay in the SE because it's economically depressed and the social atmosphere is sometimes hostile against outsiders

You really don't have to get tribal or beat any chest because these are facts and obvious realities..

arresa:
People migrate to the SW to make a living especially folks from SE because there's money to be made in the SE, because people in the SW have stronger disposable income and because the economic atmosphere in the the SW is vibrant and beneficial.

People don't migrate to poor places or places where they can not make money or make a living so people migrate to the SW because there's economic opportunities there. On this basis alone, you are wrong.

Do you see folks from the SW or other parts of Nigerian troooping to the SE for anything.? No. Simply because there's zero economic opportunities there and even the people in the SE can not stay in the SE because it's economically depressed and the social atmosphere is sometimes hostile against outsiders

You really don't have to get tribal or beat any chest because these are facts and obvious realities..

LOL. This is funny. Apart from Lagos, which other south Western State boast of a higher volume in economic activity than any state in the south East?

Armaggedon:
we only go to lagos and you know it

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/three-factions-contesting-eze-ndigbo-title-in-oyo/

http://dailypost.ng/2015/10/14/business-activities-paralyzed-as-akure-youths-clash-with-igbo-traders/

the only place industralized in ogun is the shagamu axis

Notice where the article mentions "Ogun industrial axis, which consists of Otta, Agbara, Ibafo/Mowe and Shagamu industrial areas". Next time at least do a fact check before embarrassing yourself FreeGlobe. You are becoming a nuisance. For real.

http://businessdayonline.com/2015/02/ogun-ikeja-top-manufacturers-investment-destinations-in-2014/

Ogun, Ikeja top manufacturers’ investment destinations in 2014

While Ogun, which is now Nigeria’s industrial hub, recorded N377 billion worth of investments within the period, Ikeja returned investments worth N39.86 billion.


Ogun State’s represents 78 percent of N483 billion worth of investments made in the whole of the manufacturing sector within the period under review, while Ikeja shares 8.3 percent.

“This has revealed that the majority of manufacturing investments were directed towards Ogun industrial axis, which consists of Otta, Agbara, Ibafo/Mowe and Shagamu industrial areas,” said MAN, in its latest January to July 2014 economic review.

....

The data further show investments in Kano/Sharada/Challawa as N19.75 billion and those of Oyo/Ondo/Osun/Ekiti as N19.2 billion within the period under review.

Anambra/Enugu that had N5.5 billion worth of investments.
while those of Imo/Abia were estimated at N309 million.

Really? Worst? I belief aba,ebonyi state is a good example of leadership? Yeye dey smell! yes ebonyi never owed salaries despite its status. Abia had bad leadership who fail to put roads in order in aba but he is now gone. Nevertheless aba is bubbling with bussiness activities or can you tell me one city in the whole of south west aside lagos that is more industralized than aba?

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/seast-states-workers-groan-as-bailout-fund-fails-to-offset-salary-arrears/

The 'worst' performing Governor in the SW (Aregbe) has commissioned more completed projects than the entire SE governors combined. #FACT

Chew on that.

Truckpusher:
Why shouldn't that be the case when the wealth of the Niger Delta people is being used to sustain the lazy big for nothing three that contributes absolutely nothing even with their large human resources? The leadership of this country, they've held tenaciously unto for years yet they couldn't even lift their own very population/people out of poverty.
The Niger Delta is a child of circumstances and hopefully it must change by any means necessary.

You see how contradictory you sound even to your own self bro?
At the bolded, is war inclusive of this your every means necessary? (You wan igbo, Yoruba and fulani ba....?)Because the last time I checked only one of the big three has championed the course of ever getting you close to that desire of resource control, Despite the continued sabotage and animosity that emanates from the likes of you.
Ndigbo should shove this biafra talk let's enjoy Nigeria while it's last. You don't need a thread like this to know that Nigeria will naturally disintegrate as soon as oil becomes worthless. The North were shouting "Muraba" before oil was discovered, It's naturally expected of them to opt out once oil becomes worthless, the west already have all they need to survive as an independent region.
The ever foolish SS region will be left with a degraded ecosystem, contaminated waters (even fishing una no go see), in just less than 45yrs from now.

@ OP That region is actually linden with utter brainlessness swimming in stupidity. Invariably it appears to have a concentration of low IQ black Africanas.

Sweetguy25:
LOL. This is funny. Apart from Lagos, which other south Western State boast of a higher volume in economic activity than any state in the south East?

the way some of u guys post makes me wonder if you guys are truly the most travelled tribe in nigeria....Ur statement is highly ignorant.

Sweetguy25:
LOL. This is funny. Apart from Lagos, which other south Western State boast of a higher volume in economic activity than any state in the south East?

Guy, didn't you get the memo? According to this Nnewi guy, Igbos have lost the plot in Commerce and Industry:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/rivers-state-others-have-overtaken-s-east-in-commerce-industry/

Lol. Even Una hero Jonathan himself said it that the SW controls 55% of Nigeria's economy.

Excerpts:

“When Jimoh was talking about World Bank statistics of the poverty rate in regions in the country, he said South West has least in the country. In fact, Lagos and Ogun contributed almost 55 per cent of the economic activities.

http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/i-regret-emergence-of-tambuwal-as-speaker-jonathan/

And he wasn't lying when you consider the indices from Manufacturers Association of Nigeria's last report as follows:
The SW virtually controls/accounts for atleast 70% of industrial activity in Nigeria.

http://businessdayonline.com/2015/02/ogun-ikeja-top-manufacturers-investment-destinations-in-2014/

Ogun, Ikeja top manufacturers’ investment destinations in 2014

While Ogun, which is now Nigeria’s industrial hub, recorded N377 billion worth of investments within the period, Ikeja returned investments worth N39.86 billion.


Ogun State’s represents 78 percent of N483 billion worth of investments made in the whole of the manufacturing sector within the period under review, while Ikeja shares 8.3 percent.

“This has revealed that the majority of manufacturing investments were directed towards Ogun industrial axis, which consists of Otta, Agbara, Ibafo/Mowe and Shagamu industrial areas,” said MAN, in its latest January to July 2014 economic review.

....

The data further show investments in Kano/Sharada/Challawa as N19.75 billion and those of Oyo/Ondo/Osun/Ekiti as N19.2 billion within the period under review.

Anambra/Enugu that had N5.5 billion worth of investments.
while those of Imo/Abia were estimated at N309 million.

Flyoruboy:
[b]Ogun, Ikeja top
The 'worst' performing Governor in the SW (Aregbe) has commissioned more completed projects than the entire SE governors combined. #FACT
Chew on that.

Of al what u wrote this is the only wrong piece,but never mind,i know u were taunting him.

Flyoruboy:
Guy, didn't you get the memo? According to this Nnewi guy, Igbos have lost the plot in Commerce and Industry:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/rivers-state-others-have-overtaken-s-east-in-commerce-industry/

Lol. Even Una hero Jonathan himself said it that the SW controls 55% of Nigeria's economy.

Excerpts:




And he wasn't lying when you consider the indices from Manufacturers Association of Nigeria's last report as follows:
The SW virtually controls/accounts for atleast 70% of industrial activity in Nigeria.

Economic activity. Do you know what that means? Has any statistic measured the volume of economic activity in each zone?

Sweetguy25:
Economic activity. Do you know what that means? Has any statistic measured the volume of economic activity in each zone?

Teacher don't teach me nonsense jo! I just posted a quote from the former President. If anybody should know then he should. Did you miss the part of his submission where he mentioned "economic activity"? Check it again coz I highlighted it. What more do you want? You wey ask question with such boldness, what statistic did you use to measure your submission/conclusion? ? Gerrarahere mehn. Hypocrite.

Sweetguy25:
LOL. This is funny. Apart from Lagos, which other south Western State boast of a higher volume in economic activity than any state in the south East?

Your answer is you telling us why folks in the so called places in the SW with lower economic volume are not trooping to the SE with higher economic volume.


Last time I checked, Akure is not Lagos state so please tell us what SE folks are doing in Akere and also why they didn't return to the so called SE states with higher economic volume, but instead beged Deji of Akure after their so called EZE was beaten.


Look here, there is absolutely no reason to chest beat, these are facts and realities. The poorest places in the SW are still more tolerable to SE folks than the richest places in the SE.

Sweetguy25:
Why Yoruba's Love Nigeria

As it stands currently, the Yoruba’s are biggest beneficiaries of Nigeria. Why, you may ask? Well this is because they own (or claim to own) Lagos.

How are Yoruba’s benefiting from Nigeria by owning Lagos? This is because 90 percent of all foreign investment that comes to Nigeria goes to Lagos. Lagos is the commercial heartbeat of Nigeria. Everything important about Nigeria’s commercial sector and economy is in Lagos – From the vibrant ports, to foreign missions and embassies, to industries, multinationals, financial sector etc.

Almost all trans-border projects connecting Nigeria to other countries are connected to or only through Lagos.
For example – The West African Gas pipeline, the West African Power Pool, The Lagos to Abidjan Corridor, the West African Cable system and a host of others.

All the 5 submarine cables connected to Nigeria are connected to Lagos. In fact, even a cable linking Cameroun to Nigeria was connected only to Lagos. They skipped, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta and connected it to Lagos. (This may be due to viability reasons)

So, the south west is aware of the development that is coming to them through Lagos and they wouldn’t want to mess it up. Their ownership of Lagos has already made them dominate the organized private sector followed by Igbos. Ogun state is also becoming the most industrialized state in the country. That is why they chose to be patriotic Nigerians. Most patriotic Nigerians are Yorubas.


Why Hausa/Fulani Love Nigeria
The reason why the Hausa/Fulani and their kith and kin in the north are happy in Nigeria is obvious. After the yoruba’s/south west, the north comes next as the zone/ethnic people who benefit from Nigeria at the expense of others. They have more states, more local governments, more politicians and more civil servants but less human capital. This means Northerners get to receive more of the revenues generated by the federal government (from the Niger delta).
Due to the low human development in the northern region, they get favorable educational programs and policies funded by the federal government which is not available to other regions. The northern zone also has better road infrastructures than the southern zone. The seat of government is also located in the North, to facilitate the development of the Northern Region.


Ijaws and other ND minorities
The reasons why Ijaws and other minorities in the South South are “content being Nigerians”
Ignorance and helplessness. That’s all. The minority tribes in Nigeria’s Niger Delta generate a bulk of the country’s revenue but they’re some of the poorest people you can ever find in Africa. Most Nigerians from the west and north barely even know they exist.

[s]This thread is purely speculative[/s]


Have a nice night rest. . .

May God increase ur thought and power cos u have said it all only God can save us.

THIS SETTLES IT,SW>SE
VickJames where hath thou



Demographic Trends.
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........... while migrants have
often moved from the
northern
Sokoto and Kano areas to
southern areas where cacao
is
grown -the southwest-. A
more significant
number of people have
migrated
from the southeast to the
more
industrialized and
urbanized
western states.
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http://www.britannica.com/place/Nigeria

finaly01:
Yes I agree with you but the question we need to ask our self's is what made other regions unsafe for foreign investment? I believe that if they had been treated fairly and inclusively their won't be any agitation

The answer is leadership.

1. We've had SE'ner regional premier. So tell us what the SE premier/Azikiwe did for the SE while Awolowo was building industrial estates from Ikeja industrial to Apapa industrial, Matori, Mushin, Ilupeju and Oluyole industrial.

These industrial estates are still the major industrial powerhouse in Nigeria today, they are still responsible for a major chunk of our industrial output, goods and services.

Today, Procter and Gamble, the worlds largest manufacturer of consumer products have major manufacturing plants in Nigeria. Lagos, Ogun and Oyo state.

The Lagos P&G plant is under construction in the same Ikeja industrial estate created by Awolowo many decades ago.

The Oyo state P&G plant was built Oluyole estate, the same industrial estate Awolowo built many decades ago.

Ogun state P&G plant was built and commissioned by Amosun recently.

These major plants and economic activities like countless others means taxes for the states involved, better jobs and opportunities which is again why people go to the SW for economic opportunities.


2. We've had SE'ner head of state. What did he do for SE? Nothing, in fact he terminated our regional government and sank us into the Federal mess we are in today.

3. We've had SE Vice president

SE Ministers

SE governors

SE ministers

SE senate leaders more than any other region

SE house speakers

SE Ambassadors

SE Sec to the FG

SE heads of Pam Secs

SE Agency director general

SE Managers

GEJ's admin was loaded by SE folks

SE sided with the government in power for 16 years

4. So please tell us what the SE gained from these advantages?

Obviously, SE leadership since day one lacked foresight and failed to lay the needed foundation for the future and today's leadership in SE are not any different.

Today, there's insecurity and unrest in the SE and we are yet to see the leaders from elders to traditional rulers to governors, elected officials in Abuja and socio groups intervene because of the economic negative side effects. Do you see P&G or any sane and prudent multinational investing 1 kobo in the SE?

Armaggedon:
its a lie. Lagos has the highest crime rate in nigeria and enugu has the lowest. Do you recall when apc protesters burnt luxury buses belonging to an igbo transporter earlier this year?

If peace is the factor why are other places in SW that are more peaceful than lagos still villages?

The truth is lagos enjoys special attention from fg govt starting from colonial times till now. Should the seaport in portharcourt or onitsha stop being a subject of politics, lagos will suffer. Which is why you guys hold on to one nigeria.

Coming to leadership sw has the worst in the country save fayose. Lagos has the largest dept profile despite huge revenue, what of osun? The leadership in the east is the most visionary but seems emasculated by fg's policies and u know that.

I also heard you mentioning disposable income in Sw. That is a height of delusion! Sw is the most impoverished region aside north. Why do you thing ibadan oshgbo abeokuta are slums while enugu onitsha aba owerri ph awka and asaba are bubbling?


as for dangote, we dont beg for his investment he knows that too. He also knows he would be outcompeted hence he conspired with obj to shut down ibeto plant in ph.

Like i said politics is the thing not your so called peace. Igboland is peaceful but nigeria is an igbophobic country

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/147014-enugu-crime-capital-nigeria-survey.html



^^^^ Enugu is the crime Capital of Nigeria.


Please lets deal with facts and not needless chest beating...

Flyoruboy:
Teacher don't teach me nonsense jo! I just posted a quote from the former President. If anybody should know then he should. Did you miss the part of his submission where he mentioned "economic activity"? Check it again coz I highlighted it. What more do you want? You wey ask question with such boldness, what statistic did you use to measure your submission/conclusion? ? Gerrarahere mehn. Hypocrite.

This is absolutely baseless. The only reason for the south west's dominance in economic activity is Lagos. Anything else is baseless.

arresa:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/147014-enugu-crime-capital-nigeria-survey.html



^^^^ Enugu is the crime Capital of Nigeria.


Please lets deal with facts and not needless chest beating...

My God!!

See as you exposed his ignorant ass, Just like that!!

Diaris God oo!

arresa:
Your answer is you telling us why folks in the so called places in the SW with lower economic volume are not trooping to the SE with higher economic volume.


Last time I checked, Akure is not Lagos state so please tell us what SE folks are doing in Akere and also why they didn't return to the so called SE states with higher economic volume, but instead beged Deji of Akure after their so called EZE was beaten.


Look here, there is absolutely no reason to chest beat, these are facts and realities. The poorest places in the SW are still more tolerable to SE folks than the richest places in the SE.

Why would the SW folks come to Onitsha when they have Lagos? Onitsha and other Igbo commercial areas are saturated with businesses especially SME's. And lest you forget, there are yoruba's in the east. Enugu, Onitsha et al but given that yorubas arent more adventurous than Igbos, they travel around Nigeria less.

Sweetguy25:
This is absolutely baseless. The only reason for the south west's dominance in economic activity is Lagos. Anything else is baseless.

Lagos is of course important economically, but please tell us what Ogun state industrializing faster than Lagos means economically and also why multiNationals are flocking to Ogun and Oyo states instead of the North, the SS or SE.

Also tell us what folks from the SE are doing in places like Akure, Ibadan and so on. They don't know how to get to Lagos or know where Lagos is.

You are not making any sense..

arresa:
The answer is leadership.

1. We've had SE'ner regional premier. So tell us what the SE premier/Azikiwe did for the SE while Awolowo was building industrial estates from Ikeja industrial to Apapa industrial, Matori, Mushin, Ilupeju and Oluyole industrial.

These industrial estates are still the major industrial powerhouse in Nigeria today, they are still responsible for a major chunk of our industrial output, goods and services.

Today, Procter and Gamble, the worlds largest manufacturer of consumer products have major manufacturing plants in Nigeria. Lagos, Ogun and Oyo state.

The Lagos P&G plant is under construction in the same Ikeja industrial estate created by Awolowo many decades ago.

The Oyo state P&G plant was built Oluyole estate, the same industrial estate Awolowo built many decades ago.

Ogun state P&G plant was built and commissioned by Amosun recently.

These major plants and economic activities like countless others means taxes for the states involved, better jobs and opportunities which is again why people go to the SW for economic opportunities.


2. We've had SE'ner head of state. What did he do for SE? Nothing, in fact he terminated our regional government and sank us into the Federal mess we are in today.

3. We've had SE Vice president

SE Ministers

SE governors

SE ministers

SE senate leaders more than any other region

SE house speakers

SE Ambassadors

SE Sec to the FG

SE heads of Pam Secs

SE Agency director general

SE Managers

GEJ's admin was loaded by SE folks

SE sided with the government in power for 16 years

4. So please tell us what the SE gained from these advantages?

Obviously, SE leadership since day one lacked foresight and failed to lay the needed foundation for the future and today's leadership in SE are not any different.

Today, there's insecurity and unrest in the SE and we are yet to see the leaders from elders to traditional rulers to governors, elected officials in Abuja and socio groups intervene because of the economic negative side effects. Do you see P&G or any sane and prudent multinational investing 1 kobo in the SE?

God bless you!

Sweetguy25:
Why Yoruba's Love Nigeria

As it stands currently, the Yoruba’s are biggest beneficiaries of Nigeria. Why, you may ask? Well this is because they own (or claim to own) Lagos.

How are Yoruba’s benefiting from Nigeria by owning Lagos? This is because 90 percent of all foreign investment that comes to Nigeria goes to Lagos. Lagos is the commercial heartbeat of Nigeria. Everything important about Nigeria’s commercial sector and economy is in Lagos – From the vibrant ports, to foreign missions and embassies, to industries, multinationals, financial sector etc.

Almost all trans-border projects connecting Nigeria to other countries are connected to or only through Lagos.
For example – The West African Gas pipeline, the West African Power Pool, The Lagos to Abidjan Corridor, the West African Cable system and a host of others.

All the 5 submarine cables connected to Nigeria are connected to Lagos. In fact, even a cable linking Cameroun to Nigeria was connected only to Lagos. They skipped, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta and connected it to Lagos. (This may be due to viability reasons)

So, the south west is aware of the development that is coming to them through Lagos and they wouldn’t want to mess it up. Their ownership of Lagos has already made them dominate the organized private sector followed by Igbos. Ogun state is also becoming the most industrialized state in the country. That is why they chose to be patriotic Nigerians. Most patriotic Nigerians are Yorubas.


Why Hausa/Fulani Love Nigeria
The reason why the Hausa/Fulani and their kith and kin in the north are happy in Nigeria is obvious. After the yoruba’s/south west, the north comes next as the zone/ethnic people who benefit from Nigeria at the expense of others. They have more states, more local governments, more politicians and more civil servants but less human capital. This means Northerners get to receive more of the revenues generated by the federal government (from the Niger delta).
Due to the low human development in the northern region, they get favorable educational programs and policies funded by the federal government which is not available to other regions. The northern zone also has better road infrastructures than the southern zone. The seat of government is also located in the North, to facilitate the development of the Northern Region.


Ijaws and other ND minorities
The reasons why Ijaws and other minorities in the South South are “content being Nigerians”
Ignorance and helplessness. That’s all. The minority tribes in Nigeria’s Niger Delta generate a bulk of the country’s revenue but they’re some of the poorest people you can ever find in Africa. Most Nigerians from the west and north barely even know they exist.

[s]This thread is purely speculative[/s]


Have a nice night rest. . .

Hmmmm................. Anyways, point Noted.

Observant:
You see how contradictory you sound even to your own self bro?
At the bolded, is war inclusive of this your every means necessary? (You wan igbo, Yoruba and fulani ba....?)Because the last time I checked only one of the big three has championed the course of ever getting you close to that desire of resource control, Despite the continued sabotage and animosity that emanates from the likes of you.
Ndigbo should shove this biafra talk let's enjoy Nigeria while it's last. You don't need a thread like this to know that Nigeria will naturally disintegrate as soon as oil becomes worthless. The North were shouting "Muraba" before oil was discovered, It's naturally expected of them to opt out once oil becomes worthless, the west already have all they need to survive as an independent region.
The ever foolish SS region will be left with a degraded ecosystem, contaminated waters (even fishing una no go see), in just less than 45yrs from now.

@ OP That region is actually linden with utter brainlessness swimming in stupidity. Invariably it appears to have a concentration of low IQ black Africanas.

@the bolded, what do you think the SS region can start doing right away to begin to turn things around in terms of development, resource control-partly or fully and the environment, before it's too late(oil dries up)?

Sweetguy25:
This is absolutely baseless. The only reason for the south west's dominance in economic activity is Lagos. Anything else is baseless.

E pain am. Oya, run along like a lil' taata. Why won't it be baseless, since it contrasts and resoundingly refutes your jaundiced perception? You made a stewpid and baseless claim and assertion (which you pulled out of your a$$), I countered it with a verifiable quote from the former President of the country, who is/was in the know, and you're still whining. Like WTF is wrong with you people? ? ?

Armaggedon:
I also heard you mentioning disposable income in Sw. That is a height of delusion! Sw is the most impoverished region aside north. Why do you thing ibadan oshgbo abeokuta are slums while enugu onitsha aba owerri ph awka and asaba are bubbling?

as for dangote, we dont beg for his investment he knows that too. He also knows he would be outcompeted hence he conspired with obj to shut down ibeto plant in ph.

Like i said politics is the thing not your so called peace. Igboland is peaceful but nigeria is an igbophobic country

Will you provide us with facts or just keep shut!
Jeeeesu!! ...... These people can pull out statements from their butts like no other people I have come across!
I think it is now becoming a known fact all of Nairaland, that anything Igbos on here say should not be taken with any seriousness, because they are 90% of the time purely sentimental or just flatout inaccurate!

Okay, let us compare the King of SE states (Anambra) poverty rate to a typical south Western state.

This is straight from the bureau of Statistics.

[size=13pt]Ogun Vs Anambra[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5664/23267992600_170caf2f9d_b.jpg

Okay, let us compare another SE state that Igbos love to brag about so much about; Enugu- A state that we all know is just like Rural Benue or Kogi outside of the its Capital facade.

[size=13pt]Ondo Vs Enugu[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5645/22935572564_f64f9147fa_b.jpg

Why are you guyz such pathological liars?
Is it genetic or a mass psychological condition ?

arresa:
The answer is leadership.

1. We've had SE'ner regional premier. So tell us what the SE premier/Azikiwe did for the SE while Awolowo was building industrial estates from Ikeja industrial to Apapa industrial, Matori, Mushin, Ilupeju and Oluyole industrial.

These industrial estates are still the major industrial powerhouse in Nigeria today, they are still responsible for a major chunk of our industrial output, goods and services.

Today, Procter and Gamble, the worlds largest manufacturer of consumer products have major manufacturing plants in Nigeria. Lagos, Ogun and Oyo state.

The Lagos P&G plant is under construction in the same Ikeja industrial estate created by Awolowo many decades ago.

The Oyo state P&G plant was built Oluyole estate, the same industrial estate Awolowo built many decades ago.

Ogun state P&G plant was built and commissioned by Amosun recently.

These major plants and economic activities like countless others means taxes for the states involved, better jobs and opportunities which is again why people go to the SW for economic opportunities.


2. We've had SE'ner head of state. What did he do for SE? Nothing, in fact he terminated our regional government and sank us into the Federal mess we are in today.

3. We've had SE Vice president

SE Ministers

SE governors

SE ministers

SE senate leaders more than any other region

SE house speakers

SE Ambassadors

SE Sec to the FG

SE heads of Pam Secs

SE Agency director general

SE Managers

GEJ's admin was loaded by SE folks

SE sided with the government in power for 16 years

4. So please tell us what the SE gained from these advantages?

Obviously, SE leadership since day one lacked foresight and failed to lay the needed foundation for the future and today's leadership in SE are not any different.

Today, there's insecurity and unrest in the SE and we are yet to see the leaders from elders to traditional rulers to governors, elected officials in Abuja and socio groups intervene because of the economic negative side effects. Do you see P&G or any sane and prudent multinational investing 1 kobo in the SE?

1. The strategic importance and development of Lagos has nothing to do with the leadership of the south westerners. Before Awolowo ruled the west, Lagos has had over four white governors. Lagos is over a 100 years old and south westerners have not led lagos for more than 40 years. That investors flock to Lagos and its neighboring states today, has very little to do with the leadership or cultures the indigenous south westerners. Like I said earlier, they flock to lagos because their market availability.
2. You should not forget that the south east was once the east, which consisted of the south east and south south.
3. A south easterner head of state was a core nationalist. He was not a tribalist like the one you had. Also he gave us a university which has educated millions of Igbos and has made the Nigerian state proud.
4. Anything that occurred from 1999 till date is null and void. The dividends of democracy has not reached any tribe except the yoruba's because of Lagos and the proximity of their states to Lagos.
5. South west leadership also lacks foresight. Adedibu is a south westerner. The development of the south west has nothing to with leadership.

scholes0:
Will you provide us with facts or just keep shut!
Jeeeesu!! ...... These people can pull out statements from their butts like no other people I have come across!
I think it is now becoming a known fact all of Nairaland, that anything Igbos on here say should not be taken with any seriousness, because they are 90% of the time purely sentimental or just flatout inaccurate!

Okay, let us compare the King of SE states (Anambra) poverty rate to a typical south Western state.

This is straight from the bureau of Statistics.

[size=13pt]Ogun Vs Anambra[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5664/23267992600_170caf2f9d_b.jpg

Okay, let us compare another SE state that Igbos love to brag about so much about; Enugu- A state that we all know is just like Rural Benue or Kogi outside of the its Capital facade.

[size=13pt]Ondo Vs Enugu[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5645/22935572564_f64f9147fa_b.jpg

Why are you guyz such pathological liars?
Is it genetic or a mass psychological condition ?

Yeeparipa!! Technical Knock Out~! Waa sere. You are always good with these sort of facts. Mo beri fun yin o.

Sweetguy25:
1. The strategic importance and development of Lagos has nothing to do with the leadership of the south westerners. Before Awolowo ruled the west, Lagos has had over four white governors. Lagos is over a 100 years old and south westerners have not led lagos for more than 40 years. That investors flock to Lagos and its neighboring states today, has very little to do with the leadership or cultures the indigenous south westerners. Like I said earlier, they flock to lagos because their market availability.
2. You should not forget that the south east was once the east, which consisted of the south east and south south.
3. A south easterner head of state was a core nationalist. He was not a tribalist like the one you had. Also he gave us a university which has educated millions of Igbos and has made the Nigerian state proud.
4. Anything that occurred from 1999 till date is null and void. The dividends of democracy has not reached any tribe except the yoruba's because of Lagos and the proximity of their states to Lagos.
5. South west leadership also lacks foresight. Adedibu is a south westerner. The development of the south west has nothing to with leadership.

Ibadan was the capital of western region of Nigeria yet there is nothing write home about Yoruba and development as far as Ibadan is concerned. If Biafra is granted a stay side by side with Nigeria for a year, Nigeria will self-destruct.

Sweetguy25:
1. The strategic importance and development of Lagos has nothing to do with the leadership of the south westerners. Before Awolowo ruled the west, Lagos has had over four white governors. Lagos is over a 100 years old and south westerners have not led lagos for more than 40 years. That investors flock to Lagos and its neighboring states today, has very little to do with the leadership or cultures the indigenous south westerners. Like I said earlier, they flock to lagos because their market availability.[/b]

lagos Island (The old FCT) was ruled by four white governors not Lagos state.
Some Entire SE and SS cities as we know them today such as Enugu, Port harcourt, and Umuahia owe their existence to white british administrators.
The development of Lagos since the FCT was oved to Abuja over 24 years ago has been largely state government indigenous and not FG driven.

2. You should not forget that the south east was once the east, which consisted of the south east and south south.

so??
South West was once Western region, which comprised of 8 states as well.

arresa:
Lagos is of course important economically, but please tell us what Ogun state industrializing faster than Lagos means economically and also why multiNationals are flocking to Ogun and Oyo states instead of the North, the SS or SE.

Also tell us what folks from the SE are doing in places like Akure, Ibadan and so on. They don't know how to get to Lagos or know where Lagos is.

You are not making any sense..

Industrialization is a little measure of economic growth. Ogun state cannot and never be more economically and commercially strategic than Lagos state in the next 100 years.
Once again, investors flock to Ogun and Oyo states due to their close proximity to Lagos state and nothing else.

Are there no Yoruba folks in the south east? Tell us what are south west folks doing in enugu and onitsha?

scholes0:
Will you provide us with facts or just keep shut!
Jeeeesu!! ...... These people can pull out statements from their butts like no other people I have come across!
I think it is now becoming a known fact all of Nairaland, that anything Igbos on here say should not be taken with any seriousness, because they are 90% of the time purely sentimental or just flatout inaccurate!

Okay, let us compare the King of SE states (Anambra) poverty rate to a typical south Western state.

This is straight from the bureau of Statistics.

[size=13pt]Ogun Vs Anambra[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5664/23267992600_170caf2f9d_b.jpg

Okay, let us compare another SE state that Igbos love to brag about so much about; Enugu- A state that we all know is just like Rural Benue or Kogi outside of the its Capital facade.

[size=13pt]Ondo Vs Enugu[/size]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5645/22935572564_f64f9147fa_b.jpg

Why are you guyz such pathological liars?
Is it genetic or a mass psychological condition ?

Source, source, source.. . . Post your source please