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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:00pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Patchesagain:No we don't. Almost every Nigerian home has electricity generator and/or power inverter. Southies burn candles ![]() |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:11pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
agaugust:In SA we don't even need those noisy things. We have electricity that operate 24 hrs. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:43am On Dec 05, 2015 |
agaugust:Citation needed |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46am On Dec 05, 2015 |
agaugust:1. You lost 26 men in ONE ENGAGEMENT 2.We flew in re-enforcements, an entire battalion, Gripen and Rooivalk - we were ready to fight but the neighbors of CAR were not 3. Liberia is in ECOWAS... in CAR in SADAC? 4. The mission they were sent there for was accomplished - no debate. 5. When did we run away? Fact is, 26 of your men got slaughtered in one fight.... by musket armed Boko Haram
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Zaha(m): 11:22am On Dec 05, 2015 |
DieVluit:you re a disgrace to humanity |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:56pm On Dec 05, 2015*. Modified: 6:28pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Nope, the report is for 2014-2015 years of Boko Haram war till date of writing. Dullard at age 40, you cannot comprehend a simple narrative report ![]() "It was reliably gathered that out of the 36 young officers drawn from the three arms of the Nigerian Armed Forces to form the special elite force, 28 of them have been lost to the battle in the North-East before the change of government on May 29." http://sunnewsonline.com/new/military-vs-boko-haram-special-forces-wiped-out/ Is that a one day battle? Fool of Gauteng ![]() SANDF lost 15 Elite Paratroops and a secret number of Special Forces in one day battle with Seleka farmer rebels in Bangui city, March 2013. http://www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/08/20/government-accused-of-hiding-truth-about-15-sandf-soldiers-killed-in-car/ . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:57pm On Dec 05, 2015*. Modified: 6:12pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain:One fight in what city/town? Name it ! What date? Name it. Prove it, post the quotes and web link....try prove your lies...old man liar ! |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:39pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain:2. Okay, as cowards SANDF needed other countries to join them and help them to fight any war, no wonder Tanzania is your boss in Congo 3. Exactly my point.... South Africa want's to be the leader of the whole continent of Africa, yet they don't want to help an African country outside their local SADC region.....what kind of African continental leader would you ever be when you discriminate between African countries that you will help? SANDF left their fellow black brothers in Bangui to die.....so much for South African quest to become leader of Africa. Is Sudan in ECOWAS ? Nigerian army fought for the blacks in Dafur Sudan outside our region, we were the first army to land there and stop the mass r.ape and mass murder of blacks in Sudan, we were attacked, over a dozen Nigerian troops died in an unprovoked attack by Sudan militia on our camp at night, yet Nigerian army NEVER withdrew from Sudan since those many years ago, we are still there today. If it was SANDF, your army will leave Sudan the next morning at sunrise with jet speed of escape back to peace in Pretoria. Liberia is in ECOWAS, yes, but was South Africa in ECOWAS when Nigeria was helping you fools fight against apartheid? Nigerian army and air force made combat operations against SADF in Angola, yet Angola is not in ECOWAS, Nigeria also trained ANC freedom fighters from South Africa, is your South Africa in Nigeria's region of West Africa ? Fool....you just proved me right and showed the world why South Africa does NOT qualify to become the leader of Africa . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 9:29pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Let them say what they say....some of us know the truth.
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 9:32pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Lazer guided 70mm rocket fired off Rooivalk. Thales Group test.
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:35pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
agaugust:200 vs 3000+, 13 dead vs 600+ dead, Seleka surrendered!! AND 1600 SANDF soldiers with +- 800-1000 Tanzanian and Malawian troops wiped out M23 in a matter of months, who BTW were better trained and equipped than Boko Harm. Your whole fvcking army can't even destroy Boko Harm after 3 years!! |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:55pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain:-What city/town/village did the Nigerian Army lose 26 Special forces commandos? - Nigerian army special forces consists of at-least 1500 officers and men, when did that number drop to 46. - Nigerian Army Strike force SOF unit consists of at-least 120 men, so again how is that number 46? - Navy commandos consist of at-least 1000 operators - Nigerian Air Force QRF also consists of at-least 1000 operators So how did we lose 26 commandos of a number of "46"? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:02pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
jln115:The rate at which you nincompoops believe your on lies is nothing short of unprecedented? Need I remind you that Seleka took over the country of the CAR after only a few hours after engaging your troops, while Bozize fled. So how did they surrender? Congolese and members of Tanzania/Malawi wiped out M23 not South-Africa. Your forces only played a minute part after much of the heavy lifting had by done by Congo and Tanzania. Boko-Haram has been severely degraded. How long has the U.S been fighting Al-qeada or one it's several off-shoots? How long has Turkey been engaging the PKK? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:04pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
ssaengine:-You have 9 pilots for 26 Gripens.... Fact! - none of your 9 Pilots is combat qualified..... Fact! - You need tiny nation of Cuba to train your pilots...... Fact! - Apparently hollywood style photos don't win wars, your Special forces troops had to learn this the hard way in the CAR. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 10:13pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Henry240:K |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:57pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Henry240:Yes i know they took over Bangui, it was never our duty to defend it, they called for a ceasefire.......OR did Seleka defeat the French army to, who were present in Bangui? the majority of the FIB consists out of SANDF troops, we also supplied the Rooivalk which was instrumental in defeating the M23......So please tell me how Congo and Tanzania did the heavy lifting. Both PKK and Al-Qeada are not occupying land inside of Turkey or USA like Boko Harm is in Nigeria. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:06pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
jln115:You are a hopeless retarrd! The French army was at the airport. Your lily-livered troops got brushed aside, outside the city. The enemy doesn't call for a ceasefire, yet still is able to gather enough troops to take the capital. The Rooivalk and MI-24s attacked targets in tandem, fool! Rwandan/congolese made up the most of fighting men as at the time. Boko-haram isn't occupying land in Nigeria. We also aren't talking about occupation rather length of conflict...... Stop moving the goal post. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:37pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Henry240:How did they brush us aside? we defended our base.......They called for a cease fire, it was a political decision to withdraw or troops. BTW the airport is in Bangui....So my question remains, did Seleka defeat the French to?? Yet the M23 held out for 18 months against Mi-24 engaging them......It took just a week and a half for the M23 to surrender after the Rooivalk arrived, coincidence? I dont think so mate! Rwandan?? how come its all of a sudden Rwandan troops and not Tanzanian troops as you specified in your earlier post?? and provide a Citation that Rwandan and Congolese troops made up most of the fighting men!! Yes they actually occupied land the size of Wales mate!! Neither the US or Turkey lost any territory they held in Afghanistan or Iraq like you did in NE Nigeria, yes you could argue why those conflicts took so long, but then again you could argue why it took just months for the FIB to destroy the M23. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 3:15am On Dec 06, 2015 |
jln115:Even in Syria rebels are not classified as terrorists. Go get the difference. Go ask them why? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:37am On Dec 06, 2015 |
agaugust:1. You dont fight wars in other peoples part of africa without support 2. You are trying to create something where nothing exists - this mission was to (a) protect bozize, (b) train his men and (c) protect the South Africans doin (a) and (b) that is all. 3. South Africa has lost men in Sudan and is still there. 4. Nigeria did practically nothing to help liberate South Africa 5. Nigerian Army/Airforce did not ever deploy against the SADF Dude, grow up. Just grow up |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:38am On Dec 06, 2015 |
Henry240:Dont argue with me, argue with the journalists |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:41am On Dec 06, 2015 |
Henry240:1. Those are the facts of the battle of Bangui 2. They surrendered because they knew while they were fighting us they could not get into the city - hence a cease fire 3. O really? So: - Can I see a citation to back up your bullshit? - How do 800 men play a bigger role the 1500? 4. M23 were better trained, equipped and armed than Boko Haram - and they had a jungle to hide in, and they were destroyed in 3 months. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:42am On Dec 06, 2015 |
Henry240:FACT = CITATIONS NO CITATIONS =/= NOT A FACT Do you believe the sh1t you write? I can smell your butthurt for here ![]() |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:44am On Dec 06, 2015 |
Henry240:1. Seleka asked for a cease fire - FACT 2. UN has directly accredited the Rooivalk with defeating the M23 3. Majority of combat troops were South African throughout the deployment 4. Boko Haram is occupying land in Nigeria - Sambisa forest |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:34am On Dec 06, 2015 |
agaugust:That is indeed a record. BH killed 28 officers of the elite forces (Captains, Majors and colonels). Even Seleka never killed one officer. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:54am On Dec 06, 2015 |
shizzy7:Sanctions were not meant for only one specific dictator. It was meant to eradicate military rule and install democracy. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:16am On Dec 06, 2015 |
iblawi:You can't speak about Nigeria's heavy sanctions that helped bring down military dictators without mentioning MANDELA. Mandela helped you dummies. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:30pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
mzilakazi:You had only 250 troops and that's just 3 platoons, at most 5 officers total and they fought for only 15 hours before running away to hide under the armpit of France's troops at the Bangui airport......your coward officers pushed the lower rank troops forward to die while officers were hiding behind the men that died. Nigeria fought with 30,000 troops for 6 years, so we lose more men, but we have won the war, you did not win yours because SANDF and your special forces are afraid of death, you abandoned Bangui in her day of trouble..... Cowards and heartless SANDF. 28 Nigerian officers story is speculation or an outright lie.....the journalist said they had secret military burial, so if the burial was a military secret, how did she know about it since it is a classified military secret? She made up the story......that's why she CANNOT name or list the 28 officers or name the place and date they fought any battle. Special forces ops are secrets, the journalists do NOT have access to special forces secrets. That news report is a figment of private imaginations, goes into thrash bin until the journalist proves anything with evidence . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:33pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain:You were dumb enough to be fooled by a journalist fabricating fantasy stories to sell her newspaper. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:55pm On Dec 06, 2015*. Modified: 5:30pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
jln115:PKK lives inside Turkey and blow up hundreds of Turkish citizens at random when they attack the capital city and other towns. ISIS operators live inside USA, they just massacred 14 Americans inside California last week. Paris has ISIS operators living inside France and bõmbïng Paris at random killing the French citizens in hundreds and forcing Paris into paralyzed lock down mode for days.....France has officially declared a national state of emergency. All those three NATO military forces have not saved their own homeland from terrorists, so Nigeria has not done badly with almost 100 million Islamic believers resident inside Nigeria, we have more Muslims than the whole population of France, we face 100 times more risk potential. Rooivalk helicopter arrival did not defeat M23, you cannot win asymmetric war from the air, hundreds of powerful NATO fighter jets including mighty Rafale and Typhoons 4++ generation jet fighters have bömbed ISIS about 10,000 times in two years and ISIS is still holding tight to it's territory and exporting oil from Iraq doing big business. The frustrated USA has announced last week that special forces will now be deployed on ground to battle ISIS....you can't win such war with air power . M23 was killed by multinational ground troops from Tanzania, South Africa, Malawi and all troops under Tanzanian leadership/command....plus Tanzanian heavy artillery from D-30 howitzers that pounded M23 positions into powder before ground troops moved in to mop up what was left of a wrecked M23 force.....you failed to give credit to Tanzanian army heavy artillery prowess.....you glory thief ! Your Rooivalk is a rebel worthy helicopter, go test it against an enemy that has anti-aircraft missiles . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:53pm On Dec 06, 2015*. Modified: 12:06am On Dec 07, 2015 |
agaugust:A terrorist attack and a rebel group occupying land are 2 different things. Neither isis, pkk ect ect are occupying land in France, USA or Turkey. Boko Harm on the otherhand occupy a vast majority of your territory. So now your comparing jets to Attack helicopters?? And yes, the Rooivalk turned the tide in DRC with regards to the m23!! Also I never took any credit away from Tanzania or Malawi. All I was pointing out, was the majority of the FIB consist out of SANDF soldiers. |
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