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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
iblawi:What? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
iblawi:what? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:39pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
iblawi:The acts they commit are different, but they can also be the same group! for exp ISIS and Boko Harm. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:52pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
jln115:Boko Haram and ISIS are terrorists groups not rebels. But Seleka is a rebel group. You can't know the difference cos have never faced 1. Nigeria have face rebel group and terrorists group so we know the difference. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:11pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:12pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
scully95:Am smelling war in Syria. Not necessarily a nuclear war. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 11:15pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Side Fact.... The original Denel Raptor long range glide bombs were initially designed to carry low kilotonne nuclear warheads.
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:50pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
agaugust:No citations = trolling Luckily I have citations ![]()
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:50pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
agaugust:Prove it |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:55pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
agaugust:1. UN accredited Rooivalk with final defeat of the M23 1a. Our mortars were more relevant than the D20's 1b. Provide citations please 2. Your Army is a rebel worthy army, go test it against a conventional army These are nothing more than the squeals of a butthurt little boy |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:03am On Dec 07, 2015 |
iblawi:Have YOU faced a terrorist group? Have YOU faced a rebel group? Are YOU in the Nigerian Defence force? Have YOU ever fired a rifle in your life? Don't come here with your ignorant B.S mate!! Just because you live in Nigeria, doesn't mean your an expert on Terrorist/Rebel groups. Rebel groups, capture land.....Terrorist groups commit terrorist acts like suicide bombings.....ISIS and Boko Haram do both. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 1:27am On Dec 07, 2015*. Modified: 12:48pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
jln115:And how sure are you that am not a force man? How do you know I've never fired a gun or rifle b4? Everyone is fighting terrorism in Nigeria. We didn't leave it for the force men alone. That is another difference dummy. FYI, terrorists capture land dummy, Boko Haram and ISIS are good example. You absolutely know nothing about terrorism. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:00pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
iblawi:I never said im sure.... i was asking you if you were in the military and i was asking you if you've ever shot a Rifle!! Your above respond however is answer enough. Ok so have YOU physically fought terrorism?? Ok retaard tell me whats the difference between a terrorist group and a rebel group, when one ignores terrorist attacks for example suicide bombing ect ect ? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:36pm On Dec 07, 2015*. Modified: 10:13pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain:You have an artwork photo of Nigerian army regular infantry troops which you post fraudulently as special forces troops. You have no name of the town or location or date of the fake battle you are saying Nigerian special forces got wiped out fighting. You claim the casualty numbers come from a secret military burial, if its secret how did you attend a secret military burial to count of coffins and graves? Old man fraudster !!!!! Nigeria's three armed forces combined have over 4,000 special forces, you claim we had only 46......how does that make sense. You have NO citation to prove your fraudulent claim, that's why you a wrong post photo, your photo citation is of year 1990s Liberian war Nigerian army infantry carrying old FN-FAL rifles we don't even use anymore as standard issue, and you label it as Special forces war against Boko Haram war. Your comment goes down into a bottomless pit.....waste of time and browsing megabytes. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:39pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
jln115:Name the towns and cities currently occupied by Boko Haram in Nigeria today.... We are eager to know . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:21pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
jln115:1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees. Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war, yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them. 2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles ![]() When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:22pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
jln115:1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees. Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war. http://www.ibtimes.com/us-apache-helicopters-attack-isis-base-report-1816402 Yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them. 2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles ![]() When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:35pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Nigerian special forces are actually the ones wiping out Boko Haram, not the other way around you old man fraudster !!! http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html Extreme times call for extreme methods, goes the phrase. So, with the growing brazenness of terror group Boko Haram in the North-East, the Nigerian government proceeded to create a Special Forces unit, a team of elite military personnel trained for extreme battle scenarios. Trained in an Eastern European country, the troops, drawn from the Nigerian Army, Navy and Air Force, make up a fierce fighting force that is proving to be effective in necessary areas. What makes the Special Forces unit such a dangerous, effective one? A military insider disclosed that some reasons are intense martial arts and survival training, sophisticated weapons handling and the array of tech at their disposal. “Without giving away too much,” the source said, “The Nigerian Special Forces are not personnel to be trifled with, by anyone.” No easy job. Their reputation grows by the day, too, with captured insurgents revealing that Boko Haram commanders often issuing stern warnings to their fighters to avoid run-ins with the Special Forces unit troops. A Defence source even attributes that to the doggedness of the men in pursuing, sometimes even hunting, insurgents and engaging them. He offered an anecdote, wherein a group of Boko Haram terrorists where approaching and the men grabbed their weapons and kit and cheerfully engaged the insurgents in a brief but victorious encounter. The nature of their operation makes it impossible to be reported in the mainstream, owing to the tradition worldwide which sees Special Forces units’ activities cloaked in secrecy. It is that mystery, however, which additionally makes them effective, according to military experts. The unit, also, played a key part in the dislodgement of Boko Haram from once-dreaded Sambisa Forest. Security insiders told Daily Trust that there has never been any doubt on the capabilities of Nigerian officers and soldiers. “We all know the issues have to do with training and equipment,” one said, adding that the coming of the Special Forces unit has proven once again that the Nigerian military is up to the task. In the beginning The Special Forces unit first assembled in Bauchi, from where they were escorted to Borno State, where the need for their unique skill sets was dire. When they arrived, the Bama axis was too hot, so they were deployed there and were said to have performed effectively. During those particular operations, they were constantly on the offensive, in many cases sending insurgents running. The Special Forces were so effective that observers mistook them for the mercenaries said to have been hired by the government of the day, probably because they wore uniforms which looked nothing like the civilian populace had seen before. They are also known for using the Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle, as well as being instrumental in weakening and dislodging many Boko Haram camps in Borno State. In addition, they operate in Yobe and Adamawa states. Secret wars When Daily Trust requested information regarding the Special Forces unit, Army Spokesman Colonel Sani Usman responded thus: “No country discloses information about its Special Forces, Nigeria inclusive.” But he added that the nation does have such a unit fighting terrorists alongside their colleagues, “and they are doing creditably well.” Colonel Usman also stressed the need to remember the efforts of regular troops on ground in the North-East. “The fight against terrorism in Nigeria is a collective responsibility among the Armed Forces, the police and other security forces,” he added. http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html#fmoEHi6g3IrggbLE.99 If South African special forces of today, ZERO experienced Zulus, fight Nigeria's battle hardened special forces, Zulu SF will be wiped out ! .
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:18am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:I have a citation You do not have any, for any of your claims. No citations = trolling (you said so yourself) |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:19am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:He said territory And that territory is Sambisa forest |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:21am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:1. Rooivalk has Ingwe and Mokopa 2. South Africa provided larger numbers - fact. South Africa provided the Rooivalks - fact. We did most of the fighting When your rebel worthy army is tested against an enemy with Jets, massed artillery and SAM missiles, come back and talk to us ![]() |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:23am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:You still havent proven your claim As for your boys v the Recce's.... ask the Cubans, Angolans, M23 and Seleka how that went for them |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:41am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:The record stand. BH killed 28 officers of the Nigerian Elite forces. Anyway, Nigeria's special forces are only one year old and that way we really cannot expect any better. Inexperience is the word. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:27am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:Dude BH held an area the size of fvcking Wales at one stage mate!! |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:59am On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:1. The Rooivalk can be armed with the makopa. 2. M23 had 23mm anti-aircraft guns, yet couldn't shoot down the Rooivalk 3. the US only started bombing ISIS this year, they also have 0 troops on the ground!! We had/have more than 1500 troops in the DRC + 3 Rooivalk. 4. How is the Apache superior to our Rooivalk? 5. Did the Tanzanian brigadier physically command SANDF sections,Platoons,Battalions, Regiment when we were physically fighting M23?? Also, who do you think the UN calls, when they want to retake a base that they've lost?? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:35pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
Patchesagain:The old apartheid era Recces are dead or retired.....stop posting stories about 1970s-1980s expired soldiers. Special forces are always young blood fresh men not retiree old men with weak aged hearts and lungs. Show us current achievements of current South African special forces, as I have posted those of Nigeria who kill Bokos in thousands TODAY not 1980s . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:37pm On Dec 08, 2015*. Modified: 2:04pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
jln115:Past history, old expired information... what of today? Name the towns Boko Harams holds today the ones they held las cost them their fvcking lives !!! What's the use of holding land if you will end up deād in six months on that land? .
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:47pm On Dec 08, 2015*. Modified: 2:15pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
mzilakazi:It's no record, no date, no names, no battle location all is = Hallucinations. Nope the army always had Nigerian special forces from 1960s Biafra war including the great 3rd Marine Commandos. I don't know any standard army in the world that has no special forces from old times even Togo Républiqué has special forces. The story says last year Nigerian SF went for more training in Europe, not that they just became SF you dummy. Learn to comprehend when you read, and always try to think deep, don't let journalists make a fool of you. Nigerian Navy SBS special forces was formed 10 years ago and have fought wars 10 years non-stop battlefield experience from Niger Delta war to North East war. Show me the where the current Zulu recruits in South African special forces have fought a war for 10 years till today, 95% of today's South African special forces have never killed a human being in combat since the day they were born by their mothers in Soweto, new boys you recruited to replace your old apartheid enemy soldiers in 1994 show us their own Zulu 10 year long war experience since 1994.....show us now !! .
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:00pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
jln115:1. Mokopa is not in service with SANDF, that's why you could not use it in Congo 2. How many 23mm did M23 rebels have, and how mobile were they, plus they had no radar ! M23 could not shoot down the Ukrainian Mi-35 Hinds too, so nothing special in your rebel worthy Rooivalk. 3. USA has been bo.mbing ISIS since 2014, and next month is 2016 you dummy. 4. No contest, Apache has fire control/targeting Radar....beats Rooivalk by all standards. 5. Tanzanian Brigadier creates battle plans and commands/controls ALL troops, he commands SANDF officers who carry out his order passing it down to platoons and sections, Tanzanian army commands South African army in battle.....live with that shame forever ![]() . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:15pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
agaugust:Rebels seldom score against government troops due to their poor nature of arms they carry. Yet in Nigeria they managed to score 28 goals. Officers are not shot easily in any war, but Boko killed 28. What a record!!!!! Remember we don't add number of privates and NCOs. Just ranks from captain to colonel of highly trained soldiers. Where were soldiers when they lost 28 of their officers? I mean 28 captains and majors at once. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:24pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
Buhari in fury over the killing of 28 officers of 72 Special forces who were buried secretly. http://therainbowonline.net/buhari-fury-death-28-elite-soldiers-boko-haram-fight/ |
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