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Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by goldenterp(f): 12:00pm On Jun 05, 2009
@purefact

it's not godentap or goldentap, it G O L D E N T E R P (lol)

i didnt check your registration details. there's a counter right under your name for every post you put up newbie,

By all means PLEASE speak your mind, ceasyc did just that and how he managed to do so WITHOUT making conclusions for the readers, insighting hate, distrust and deliberate and careless defamation of character is the brilliant lesson to be learnt.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 6:46am On Jun 06, 2009
biggodwin:
Firstly in Science, Sickle Cell Anaemia can affect one so much that it causes inconsistent flow of blood into the brain system, then generate and inhibits impulses in the brain and can cause one to be bedridden when the Nervous System is attacked, i wont give u medical details because even if the person has just malaria, God can decid to tell the person so sit on a Mat, then they pour water on him and that's all, she may stand up and start jumping and that alone could be all she needed to be healed, u need to understand that the Anointing of God is always present where these men of God operate, and whichever method God puts in their heart to use, they will and it doesnt matter whether the method is carnally/humanly unreasonable or not. What is key is, God gave the direction, the person who had Sickle Cell and was told to sit in a wheel chair (and that is if even your lies are true) and got up and rejoiced all over, the question is, did she tell you she still had the aneamia after that encounter? Or u are just sitted there examining the method applied?
Spare me all that medical details, [size=5pt]like I dont know that already[/size]. Yes, diabetes and sickle cell anaemia can degenrate into weakness of the lower limbs but not usually in its early stages; besides, there are some other factors that may determine the gravity of the resultant effects e.g Age. In the scenerio I described earlier, it had to do with people who had not reached this stage at all, people who walked around the Healing school premises with me.

Jesus never applied methods that decieved people, he was never accused of performing fake miracles nor was he accused of staging miracles, they only said he used sorcery.

biggodwin:
Listen, Jesus met a man without eye sockets and no eye balls from birth and Jesus spat saliva on the ground, squeezed some mud, fix it on his face and told him to go wash, the guy did same and came back seeing, if u were there, u will have called Jesus a herbalist!
Your penchant for misrepresenting scripture is becoming very comical; are you referring to the same story in John 9:1-7? cos the bible did'nt say nothing about eyeballs:

John 9:1-7
1And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
4I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
5As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
6When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,
7And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing

biggodwin:
One day he needed money to pay tax and he was almost being embarrassed by people like u, then he called that a fish be caught and he brought out money from the fish's mouth and gave to them. Now ask, [b]what has an Aquactic creature got to do with Money Vaults? [/b]When did fishes become custodians of what should be expected as a duty of a Bank? These are workings of God, again i warn you sirjohn, face what u are doing in life with diligence, prayer and faith PLSSSSSSSSSSSSS, stop this investigative course you have taken upon yourself, its not wise and its not useful.
Look my friend, Jesus never begged you to exaggerate his miracles. Stop trying to sugercoat the accounts of the mirales of Jesus the same way you're doing for that of Mr chris. Again here is the bible story you tried to twist:

Matthew 17:24-27
24And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
27Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

A fish having a piece of money [size=5pt]not a vault of money[/size] in its mouth in a sea where merchants travel across is no big deal, the big deal is in the Master demonstating his Omniscience by telling the exact time such fish would be passing by. Again young man, you are giving the wrong impression.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 7:34am On Jun 06, 2009
goldenterp:
When this people give their testimonies on the world wide web, terrestial and satellite TV, they would usually explain how the 'diabetes' or 'sickle cell' got them to  the point that they could not do what they could before e'g standing up and running. Also there would be a detailed explanation with graphics and all, of the kind of symptoms that usually accompany such illnesses by the medical team of the healing school. I said that to say that you should stop painting scenarios here because you wanna discredit the HS. ANYONE CAN PAINT ANY SCENARIO, but the fact is that people go to the healing sch with serious cases and come back completely healed and it's obvious to people who knew them before they went, and that my friend you cannot take away.
In my response to biggodwin, I said:
"Yes, diabetes and sickle cell anaemia can degenrate into weakness of the lower limbs but not usually in its early stages; besides, there are some other factors that may determine the gravity of the resultant effects e.g Age. In the scenerio I described earlier, it had to do with people who had not reached this stage at all, people who walked around the Healing school premises with me."

Now let me briefly explain how the scam works: The Healing School selects mild cases of a particular ailment like diabetes for instances, sets the person in a wheelchair during the healing service. Before then, the medical team of the healing school prepares a graphic presentation. The presentation is a detailed explanation of the type of ailmentment and sympthoms that accompany same (like goldenterp rightly ponted out). This is then played before everyone present at the service before the ministeration is done.
Now what the healing school is doing is simply planting a suggestion in the mind of the viewrs that the fellow sitting in that wheelchair is unable to walk based on the analysis already given frm the presentation. What the people are not aware of is that the case before them is only a mild one and not the severe case.


goldenterp:
i think its just wicked of you to think you can sit on your computer and type away things that you knw can dissipate  their faith, what is your gain, what is the gain of these helpless pple. As 'knowledgeable as you are, why dont you think it appropriate to take the man Pastor Chris to court?
And I equally think it is wicked and callous of  Mr chris to decieve people by giving them false hopes. Just last week, the mother of one of the church staff from the CE church I left died of breast cancer. funny thing is I was there June last year when Chris prayed for her at the healing school. One year later, shes dead; the millions of people who would probably watch video clips of that ministeration again and again will not know this.
What a pity!

goldenterp:
If you cant take him to court, give it the benefit of the doubt and write him a letter and take it to Christ embassy, you know where it is.
If his group pastors and deacons that I have met are unable to provide answers, I dont think theres any point writing him and oh for your information, he has already seen this thread.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 7:38am On Jun 06, 2009
Pepeye:
John, there is a law in Nigeria? If you didn’t know that you re committing the offence of Libel that is defamation of character on Man of God huh which is actionable per se
And how many time will I tell you pepeye that I'm not hiding. Bring it on!
Chris has the money, I have the story grin grin grin
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 7:41am On Jun 06, 2009
ceasyc:
comparing dis christ embassy thingy to t.b joshua
heard things dat r similar to sir john's 1st post hia
i went wit my adult cuzin to lag on a thursday cos she's unable to walk
for almost 2 yrs now
my aunty went wit us cos she got asthma and she said she's been 2 synagogue b4
she went a yr b4 2 c d pastor but dey refused cos she had no medical report

while we were @ synagogue,we noticed dat they refused to accept any1 with serious
physical disability
they'll ask u 2 walk on ur own or wit crutches
if u cant/r struggling then they will not give u a ticket to register or c d pastor on saturday

2 my amazement a white lady working in d church came 2 d black lady dat was attending to us
and said "what do i do with d group of ppl u sent to me"
d black lady said to her, daddy said that we should give dem the paper 4 prayerline and email and send dem away

dey refused my cuzin point blank, dey didnt even bother about her med reports
dey gave her a piece of paper which had prayerline numbers and email address of d church
dey said email us n call us 4 prayers, dey also asked any pastor there 2 pray 4 those sent away


we noticed dat if u r barren, got asthma and dem mild ilness or illness that cant b seen
dey will give u d ticket 2 register on d same day in order 2 c d pastor on saturday
my aunty who has asthma and no med report was given a tkt to register
she was told to buy a book of faith/healing done by d pastor or else dey
wont register her 2 c d pastor, she paid 300 naira and she was told 2 cum on sat to c
d pastor and she must wear d same clothes she wore on d day she was registered

my cuzin and i had 2 leave my aunt in lag, there was no need 4 us to stay behind
after spending a wk in lag, going to synagogue 3x but no success

my aunt came to our hse about 2 wks later
she talked and talked and praised d man of God and all d miracle he performed in her presence
on dat saturday but she claimed that there was no one there wit crutches,blindness or severe physical disability
she said he touched her and said u are healed (of d asthma)

less than a month later my aunt almost died from a severe asthma attack
dis happened 2-3 months ago
a similar tin happened 2 my mom's friend
so my ppl wetin cum happen na huh
i rest my case!
@ceasyc
I feel you, since they both use similar methods, who knows maybe thats what Chris went to learn from the Guy years back.
God bless you!
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 4:00pm On Jun 08, 2009
If I l add or subtract from what i am about to say, May the wrath of almighty God who created the heaven and earth strike me dead and may my generation not see his mercy, but if I am not adding and not subtracting , may the blessings of the Almighty God shine in my life and that of my family in Jesus name.


I will like to say something very clear, I am in my early forties and I have a covenant with God to do right things as long as I live on this earth, and I put my life for what I am about to say. I know TBJ very well and I must confess I respect his preaching alot.

Any body who have the fear of God and listen to TBJ, you must respect the word of God that comes out of his mouth.

I actually went to TBJ church when I had an Eye problem, that was 2001, before then I always watch his healing on LTV or so, that is in the Midnight, the showed healings and confessions marveled me but then there was no reason for me to go there, I was attending a Pentecostal church at surulere.

Before this eye incident I was comfortable financially, I make as much as four to five thousand take home daily, I had a car, a my wife who was living with me, she was attending Power line bible church then, I invested in a business that brought me from grace to grace, it was very serious, It got to a stage I had to beg for twenty naira for me to buy garri ten naira, five naira grand nut and five naira suger, It was really tough.

I tried everything I could to get back on my feet, but the more I try the more things ware getting worse, before this time I was not use to anything management , I am the only child of my mother who was into Timber business in Delta state, I lived like a prince, when she was alive, and before she died, she had giving me all the financial support that I needed which made me comfortable, after she died 1990.

When my finance went down, garri became one of my best meal, at times i have to look for help from one of my friends that I helped to give me meal.

I woke up one day to discover that my left eye was paining me, I thought It was Apollo, I bought eye drop and used it but It dint work, after about three weeks, I noticed that, I was almost losing my left eye, so I went to General Hospital Lagos where I was Diagnosed of glaucoma, My eye had to be injected and I was given medications.

With what I got from the sales of some of my properties, like Video, CD player, color Tv, I started buying the drugs that I needed, this lingered on until one man who knew me when things were rosy with me advise me to follow him to Synagogue, I refused at first but later went with him. On that day, he had to use his influence there to help me be part of the Emergency group, TBJ came up prayed for every body and I left with a big faith and I never used my drugs anymore.

That thing that happened, made me to believe in TBJ, that I can do anything to any person who speaks ill about TBJ.
But today I have realized that I was just a Christian mugu who never realized that God is God he will never lie but man is man (TBJ) he is full of deceit.

Hearing this, I know a lot of synagogue members will want to stone me to death, but wait a minute, just listen to my story first and u don’t look at persons just like I did before, but look at the issues critically, because on judgment day, everybody will be accountable for his deeds, no man of God will defend anyone, just like no member will defend any man of God, because it is everybody for himself.

to be continued,
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 6:06pm On Jun 08, 2009
No comments yet! looking foward to hearing your story.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 8:09pm On Jun 08, 2009
After that supposed healing, I joined the Synagogue in full and because of the supposed eye healing, I asked my wife to join me so that we can be true members, and go for prayers for us to have another child since the one she had 1997 died, but she always kicked against it, that TBJ is not real, I was always mad at her, because I thought I had seen a God sent, whose preaching is second to none, when it comes to the word of God. I started suspecting her to be the root curse of my problem, so many quarrels, she finally went with me to the prayer line, ther was something that happened that day: when we went to those that were writing the placards, i.e your problems, the guy asked us what was our problem, I now answered that fruit of the womb, the man asked his partner, what should he write, since we said we had one child before and the child died, his partner answered him in Yoruba that if he write fruit of the womb it wil not favor them, you so they wrote barrenness on our placard, I knew my ex-wife was not happy, but I dint mind, so long after the prayer she will be pregnant, no problem I thought. TBJ prayed for every body including us that day.

After, about three to six months still no pregnancy, I started blaming everything on her that when I went alone I got my supposed eye healing how come she is not getting pregnant, after all she is hearing other women’s testimony how they came to the synagogue church of all Nations, and after the Man of God Prayers, they met, and pregnancy was the result , to cut along story short we finally broke up august 2000.

I met my present wife in 2001 through my big sister, and she visited me in Lagos, I always go with some Video cassettes of the supposed wonderful miracles that was happening in synagogue, to her house in Delta, I bought one VHS where a woman was supposed to be having Cancer of the mouth and was prayed for and got healed.

My present wife was amassed, because I told her about the supposed eye healing and told her people are just criticizing the man for nothing and he doesn’t answer any body, instead he was doing good.

We finally did our wedding 2004 in a Catholic Church in Delta state where my wife worships, after the wedding she moved to my apartment in Lawanson, Lagos. With much that I have told my wife about what I see in the synagogue, she was so eager for us to attend the church. We stated attending the church from 2004 till the beginning of 2005, because of a new business (business center) we moved to Iyanu kpaja where we are presently living.

The relocation made the attending of synagogue difficult, because of the vehicle stress and long service hours 8am to 6 or 7pm, so we started going to my wife’s church (Catholic)

After about a year plus, there was no pregnancy, we had to go for fertility test we did fertility test: my wife went for swab test,
Starph was detected and we were treated for that.

After a while, still no pregnancy, my wife was beginning to get worried and the Dr who happen to be a family friendr was also worried, he now asked my wife to go for Pelvic text, while I go for sperm count, my result read that I had low sperm count while my wife’s was indicating PID (pelvic inflammatory disease ), the lab now advise for HSG. Which my wife went for
at Naz hospital, close to Ijaiye.

The result was a bilateral hydrosalpinx, i.e both fallopian tubes blocked, the Doctor saw the x-ray but said there was no problem with my wife that it was for me to build my sperm,(then we dint even know what was the meaning of hydrosalpinx, and may be because of the relationship he didn’t know how to open up to us) I was then placed on progonal and proviron tablets, I took this drugs for some time, one thing the doctor still did not tell me was about my life style of putting on Jeans trousers 24hours and wearing hinges parntis instead of boxers.

Today, from my internet research I have discovered that not allowing enough air to the srotal,, thoughts, etc can curse low sperm count not the fearful confession you hear some arranged ladies come to give: ‘ I have power in my virginal, in my eyes, any man that I sleep with I give him Low sperm count’, God has opened my eyes, may his name be praised.

Towards the ending of 2006, After much treatment on my side, I asked the Doctor to give us referenceletter to LUTH so that I can compare the lab results, he did and we went to Luth, my wife was asked to go for pelvic scan the result showed multiple fibroid, when she brought the result to our shop, I was shocked, but it did not move me because I told her that I think this cas was a spiritual case not physical, I started thinking like a true member of synagogue once again….(pardon me if you don’t mind)

I immediately gave my wife all the necessary hope, becausel I have seen supposed cripple walk, suppose blind seem the deaf talk, etc, in the Synagogue church of all nations,

2007, was a year we entered with much faith in the promise of God, that there will be no barren in the land. Because of the difficulty I had not finding it easy joing the prayer line year 2000, I was now thinking that this time it will be ten times difficult, because of the crowd, so, we wre just attending the Sundays service and after the service, with TBJ preaching you will be filling the presence Of God, that you are at the right place.

To be continued………2
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 11:27am On Jun 09, 2009
May almighty God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless any man who will see the truth and say it, why May the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob punish any man that will be part of deceitful tales in Jesus name.

I am going to continue my story. but for those who think ceasyc is lying, let me confirm it,
Apart from the 300 naira compulsory book( the step between u and the cure by TBJ) they his they were given a free VCD title beware of blasphemers

My wife brought it to the house too. for benefit of doubt I have decided to upload this items, may the truth and nothing but the truth be said, in Jesus name.

Pls just look out for the continuation of my story

Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 3:30pm On Jun 09, 2009
Continuation of my story…

Around September, 2007, I started my low sperm booster treatment with my Dr. I was taking the drug
(My Dr said, I must complete a three months dose to have result)A month plus or so, still taking my drugs, my wife went to the internet to browse and came back to inform me that the hydrosalpinx means, that both fallopian tubes are blocked, I felt cold but because of what I have seen in the Synagogue, I started telling her that it is time to fight this case once and for all.

Early December 2007, we drove down to the church on Saturday night around 9pm, with the intention to sleep inside our car, till the next morning so that we can be among the first to see the man of God. I told my wife that it was long I came for prayer line(year 2000) and I think we should go to the security to find out more details, when we got there we were told that arranging for healing is no longer on Sunday morning any more, that it is now Fridays around 8am, against Sunday morning for prayerline.

We went home that Saturday night, attended service the next day. On Friday we now went to the church with our test result,
The called those for fruit of the womb on one side, those from out side the state on another side, etc.

When it eventually got to our turn, the attendant asked if we were members, we said yes but actually started again after a break, she now looked at our test and said the test are beyond three months, we should go for another test and come back.

The next week, we went for the test and were arranged for the prayer line, on our placard they wrote:
Barrenness, multiple fibroid, tube blockage, low sperm count, Financial up lift met, attack, etc. That day I poured my heart to God, because I am the only child of my Mum and at my age no child, I was ready to hold Jesus Christ by the feet just like Jacob did to the Angel.
TBJ came, touched every body as usual and I believe that all our problems were gone. We went home that day and did what husband and wife were supposed to do, with a big faith that our problem was over.

After about a two weeks, I now told my wife that let us go for test so that we can go for our testimonies like others, I went for sperm test, and discovered that my count has moved from 10million to 12million, but my wife result is still saying the same thing (PID, multiple fibroid) I encouraged her that we have to go again and that she should put her faith towards God and that there is nothing God can not do. That week we went to the church and believing that after all my count moved from 10million to 12million, a miracle has taken place,( today I can tell you that it was not a miracle but the progonal that I was taking that had started building the sperm)

By January 2008 my wife had an appointment at LUTH, I was asked to still come and do my own count, when I did my count it was 50million, my brother, I over rejoiced and so much believed that God of Elijah was really with TBJ, as of that time I started seeing my wife or his people as e cause of her problem, at times I will be thinking that may be she had done something bad and the Lord is turning aside on her.

March, 2008, we decided to go for another prayer line again, this time I told my wife that she better position her faith very well and that if she doesn’t get it this time, she is the one that knows. We were arranged for prayer line and TBJ came and touched us as usual and we left, before that day I told my wife that it is high time we call on the attention of TBJ just like other people do
(Hey man of God help, I am the only son of my mother, My mother can not walk, I can not talk, etc) so that he might look at our case and perhaps call upon God to help us (I thank God I didn’t do that, because God is God and he can never lie and those that worship him in truth and in spirit must avoid lies)

Up to September, 2008, still no pregnancy and we were members, from salvation first group, that is first floor by your right to
Another group, when you start you will be welcomed and you will be told immediately that u must be part of the ministry by making sure you pay your tithe (I never had any problem with that, because I know it was scriptural) and you must provoke God with the little you have and you will see the miracle he will perform in your life. I was taking to another group after about one month this is judge by weekly tithe that I contributed.

When I was transferred to another group, down stairs, where they had to open another tithe card for me( I don’t have a problem with that, but I have a problem with what they are using the tithe issue to do, ,) The church is not a free church that you can just walk in like that and say you want to worship your God, If you are a new comer for the first time, you will be allowed and given a piece of paper (pass) to come on Monday morning, After that, you will be drafted into a group that is been monitored by workers and some plain clothe security men or women who sit at the last sit .

Without your pass, you can never, I repeat, you can never enter the auditorium, what gives you pass, is your tithe.
You might be given a pass for one month, and if the date at the back expires, you have to come for renewal of your pass during the week, and you can only get it renewed if you are paying your tithe, I have gone to renew my pass and met some women who could not meet up weeping because no tithe no pass and no pass or your pass has expired you can not enter the church. (May God strike me and my generation if this is not the truth and may he bless me and my generations should this be the truth)

Also, once you enter you group, the first thing some under age, will do is to come and mandate you to by Sunday sermon, it is compulsory, you must buy it, for benefit of doubt I will upload the weekly sermon that I and myself must buy separately for hundred, hundred naira.

There was a day my wife went for her pass she was told by some under twenty school cert girls that she didn’t meet up, as a result she can not get a longer period pass( laminated type) I was to go for my real pass when I lost my father October, 2008, I managed to go there and was told that, Brother what happened, I told them my father was sick and I had to travel, and that was why my weekly tithe was like that, the under age girl started preaching to me that no matter the circumstances surrounding me, I should make sure I pay my tithe first, and TBJ said that blessings that people are supposed to received is been held because of their tithe. I shook my head because she was preaching to the wrong person about tithe.

When I got home I told my wife, then I started smelling a rat, because how come TBJ in his preaching he will never talk about tithe while preaching but at the back door it is only with your tithe that you can enter the church, we decided to find out about the prayer that we went for, if a miracle had taken place in us first before this tithe, tithe thing
we went for test it was still the same with her, I then decided to go for my count and I find out that the count has come down, Just then, I told myself there is something funny in this church, to add to my curiosity was when TBJ invited so many physically challenged people to the church.

I was so tired I dint go to church that day, my wife came back and told me all that TBJ did for the CRIPLES, those that can not walk, how he gave them money, ranging from hundred thousand to two hundred thousand, etc. When she now told me about one cripple lady that was crawling on the floor and TBJ gave her a new wheel chair, something struck me there, why money?
and why wheel chairs?, does it mean those people that we see that he will ask to walk from wheel chairs are not real? Why dint he performed any healing miracle that day instead it was money miracle. I became curious but the more I try to understand what was happening the more TBJ preaching will give me a reason not to daubt.

To be continued…….3

Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by kshow1(m): 4:23pm On Jun 09, 2009
@ purefact : this post was supposed to be for Christ Embassy and NOT synagogue. or are you trying to tell us they are both one and same ?
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by lechatte(f): 9:25pm On Jun 09, 2009
Wow!! Purefact, the things you have recounted are just amazing. shocked
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by donnie(m): 9:27am On Jun 10, 2009
@purefact

Inasmuch as it is possible you are trying to be as objective as possible it is becoming clearer to me with each post of yours that you are in dire need of help.

The bibe tells us that they that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

You choose what you want to see. A prophet can prophesy healing while i stand by and observe the action of faith of the reciever, praying from my heart that he is completely healed. I may even walk up to him and whisper in his ear to take his steps without fear for God has already begun working something in him. I can also choose to stand aside and observe how he tries and falls back again with tears in his eyes and fear in his eyes and do nothing because i have nothing to give. No faith or love in me to give, just an observer of pure facts, without truth, walking by the sight of my eyes, observing lying vanities.

Now talking about whether he should give gifts or heal the sick or afflicted, shouldn't that tell you that he is not in control of what happens around there. There is a Spirit who calls the shots. . .got that? He does what he wants and when he chooses to. I believe he has a ministry to the world and to greedy and selfish christians; to teach them how to live.

We are not about to be healed, nor are we trying to be healed, healing is our birthright. We got it over 2000 yrs ago!

Selah.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by abuja4real: 9:59am On Jun 10, 2009
tb joshua is a CULTIST

he sleeps with white english girls in SA.
Mr Chris quest of more than Benny Hinn falling under the power prompted his partnership with Joshua and the Holy Spirit did not tell him Joshua was fake Very interesting.

A young lady left for nigeria to attend the healing school, she did not get healed and soon died was some stupid members of the church in london said [she did not have faith that is why she was not healed]

this thing should should be sorted out.
Even Anita said that Benny Hinn copied the name [atmosphere of Miracle] from CE. that was very funny, Benny a copier of kathryn kuhlman before ce got to lagos already had [atmosphere for miracle going] where we first saw [take it!] and the people all fell down.
so the copy cat continues wiith TB J

oh Lord have mercy
The truth about the show should be TOLD
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Africankel(m): 11:35am On Jun 10, 2009
@ Purefact: You have only narrated your life's history, no facts yet! BTW, You didnt tell us how you made money again to marry a second wife haven been broke for a long time - No offences!
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 4:57pm On Jun 10, 2009
May I say this: I have read some response to my story by some I know are from TBJ, Pls beloved, We will account for everything we do on this earth whether bad or good, I love TBJ and Pastor Chris so much when it comes to preaching the word of God, you can not take that away from me any day, but please we will be doing ourselves and God a big favor If we find out something that is not Godly in TBJ or Chris, that is making millions of people die ignorantly, instead of looking for medical solution or mind their habit or way of life, they now put their mind on the made believe miracles.



Continuation of my story


Just two months ago(may) my wife started fasting, that she must collect her own blessing from synagogue like other women, she is not going to go for any fibroid operation before she will carry her child, one Thursday, she now went to book for prayer line one Friday as usual, but was told it is now on Saturdays for prayer line not Sundays anymore but they must buy a compulsory three hundred naira faith book by TBJ( that I have uploaded).
The vary day of arrangement against the Saturday healing, she was asked to buy the compulsory three hundred naira book and they were all videoed and were asked to make sure they put on the same shirt that was videoed with them on Saturday morning for the healing.

On Saturday, I prayed with her and ask the favor of God to go with her, she came back later that day and told me all the usual miracles and she fell, even one white worker among the workers there, told her she should come for her testimony. She told me that one woman was almost strip of her placard(where you problems are written on) because she said she forgot She was so positive that her month is this; nothing will pass this month for her not to get pregnant. Her flow did not come the very day, that made her to be so positive again, within three to four days the delayed flow came, and her anger made her to do some unusual things, that caused misunderstanding between me and her for some days, I separated myself from her for some days which led to Her Elder brother coming from Benin city to make peace.

My brother in-law, had once called on phone that he was going to bring one of his friend who could not work to synagogue, and that they watch his preaching through satellite in Benin city, I then asked him why dint he come again, he said I should not mind the Man’s son, that he brought his father to Lagos, Lodged for about three weeks but could not see the Man of God, I now told him that it is now easy that my wife just attended one healing session. I now inserted the VCD of Beware of the Blasphemers for him to watch, while we were watching that clip, I noticed some things that surprised me.

There is this clip of one Sister Martha from America; she was duped of twenty two thousand Australian dollars, When I was watching the footage I noticed from the lady’s story, she came to synagogue with a problem, not mentioned, and was prayed for around 2003, she was now duped because her problem was still there and she called the Synagogue church that she want to speak with TBJ. A lady picked up the phone and said he was going to hook him up to TBJ, she said she talked with a man who claimed he was the real TBJ, she was asked to pay some money for anointing oil, etc. When they showed the boys(two) they blurred their faces you can never recognize them If you see them outside and one of them said “Original TBJ sorry, we are the fake, TBJ, now asked them to speak the truth, ONE OF THE FRAUD STARS said, “We collected money from our Foreign evangelist( Sis. Martha) “our” means, he(the fraud stars) are part of the ministry and for TBJ to mask them is another reason for one to understand that there is a skeleton in his cupboard.

Just when I was trying to go over these clips, I was browsing one day when I saw sir john’s story about Christ embassy healing school, I do go to the cyber café to read the tread because my wife was thinking of going to CE, eventually I register this name Purefact because I wanted to contribute to the topic, I did that and somebody wanted to shut me up, out of curiosity I now went back to watch some TBJ vcd that I bought from the church, to my greatest surprise, I saw the Arranged miracle thing in the video clip which is exactly what sir john talked about and so many fake prophesies prophesy in the VCD I could not sleep, and I vowed to show it to everybody so that you can judge for your self.

The white people are been used also in this tape that I will want every body to see,

Pls anybody who can teach me how to upload video pls to utube?


To be continued…, 5
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by ow11(m): 5:56pm On Jun 10, 2009
Which kain 'to be continued', na soap opera? Abeg tell us your story once with tangible proofs or get off this thread!
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 6:18pm On Jun 10, 2009
ow11:
Which kain 'to be continued', na soap opera? Abeg tell us your story once with tangible proofs or get off this thread!
please dont be offended with my long story, for God's sake, there are lot of people who this made believe miracles
had left in the mercy of the so called Men of God.

People have to know the truth about the miracles they are seeing, so they will make a choice to go for medical
help, just like my self and my wife have made up our mind to go for IVF, which if we had known before now, my wife would have been pregnant, because, what they need to do is just to by pass the blocked fallopian tubes, fertilise outside and insert inside her.(although it is expensive, but that is the available option for people like us)

Pls help on how to upload to youtube, let us not quarel my brother in Christ.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by AKO1(m): 7:41am On Jun 11, 2009
Purefact with all due respect you're actually derailing the thread. angry
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Backslider(m): 12:35pm On Jun 11, 2009
@purefact

You can post a link instead of downloading but continue with your story
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 12:52pm On Jun 11, 2009
A_K_O:
Purefact with all due respect you're actually derailing the thread. angry
Sorry please, just like i said, I just registered and a beginer, If you let me know how I derailed, i will surely make ammends. But if it is for me not to say the truth and nothing but the truth, so that the children of God, who because of the fear of God are being decieved just like that, then you might only stop me here, but not on the internet.

Backslider:
@purefact

You can post a link instead of downloading but continue with your story
It is inside a VCD, so how do i do that?
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by AKO1(m): 1:57pm On Jun 11, 2009
purefact:
Sorry please, just like i said, I just registered and a beginer, If you let me know how I derailed, i will surely make ammends.
This thread is about Pastor Chris and healing school, not T.B. Joshua. If you were so eager to talk about your experiences in The Synagogue, you could have start a new thread. Or you can search the forum for him and post under one of the relevant threads. Cheers.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by kshow1(m): 2:31pm On Jun 11, 2009
A_K_O:
Purefact with all due respect you're actually derailing the thread. angry
i quite agree with you, let him just finish his story cos its something we can learn from.
@ purefact : am sick with this your part 1,2,3, thing.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 3:25pm On Jun 11, 2009
kshow1:
i quite agree with you, let him just finish his story cos its something we can learn from.
@ purefact : am sick with this your part 1,2,3, thing.
Beloved, Please, dont be sick about the truth, it is not about any any person, but about children of God who because of the word from Fake men of God, are not able to see his works, which iare not from God almighty(deceit all in the name of healing, after all, Jesus did not say, every body must perform miracles)

There are so many pastors out there who don't stage manage miracles, and  they still lead people to christ.
I am not ready to pick up any quarell with any body on this forum, because as a true christian, we dont need that, but I will as a child of God, be able to stand like David against any, I repeat any Golliat who will want to defy the God of Isreal.

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, May the one who is saying the truth be protected by your angels while he, or those who are lying about this Fake miracles be exposed in Jesus name. I have no power of my own, holy spirit I look upon you to help me, to do your work, Speaking the truth in Jesus name.

Pls any body who can help on how to upload video to youtube?  Even you my brother please help me if you know, I am on my bended knees
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by odedele: 1:08pm On Jun 23, 2009
attended IPPC in Nigeria was giving a testimony about the seminar and said a pastor , Reverend ray who is the secretary general of christ embassy was preaching about loyalty. And he said you have to be "loyal to GOD, JESUS, and our father". He further went on to say that "their" father is Pastor Chris and loyalty to him will bring glory upon our lives.

I have said it and will say it again, the followers of christ embassy are more controversial than the man called pastor chris, A classic example is the man perming his hair-I see nothing wrong with it and he can do what ever he likes to his hair. But when male members of the congregation start perming their hari because their father is perming his hair then who do u blame? Another example is the fact that most christ embassy members quote their pastor than the bible so u would rarely hear" According to the word of GOD" rather you hear " PAstor Says in so so Tape or sermon"

I have no problem with pastor chris. he is an intelligent man and his sermons are brilliant but his healing school ministry should be open to independent media houses if he has nothing to hide .I have been watching benny hinn who is also an intelligent dude but his miracles have been debunked by the US media and his style is just like pastor chris but yet again ONLY GOD KNOWS WHO IS TRULY SERVING HIM. SHALOM

Will Jesus wear a Rolex?



TRUE TALK MY BRODA IT BEAT MY IMAGINATION 4 A MAN OF GOD 2 B PERMING HAIR WE R DEFINATELY IN D LAST DAYS
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gaminechic: 2:04pm On Jun 23, 2009
Still waiting for my Aunt to get healed by TB J, or does the Grace of God select people?
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by purefact: 3:21pm On Jun 23, 2009
Gaminechic:
Still waiting for my Aunt to get healed by TB J, or does the Grace of God select people?
Beloved, Is better your Aunt go for medical treatment, and pray for the grace of God to go with her, than wait for a film show from the cenimagoogle. There is no healing there, it is only make believe and touch and fall of occult power of TBJ.

My wife and myself have chosen the right step, by going for an IVF in our own case of tube blockage(hydrosalpinx).

I pray that God Almighty will expose those who are deceiving his children in the name of healing, and protect those who discover fake healing and decided to speak out, in Jesus name, Amen
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by mayonyi(f): 10:18am On Jun 24, 2009
true talk over there.i wonder if christ ambass members are truly worshiping God or worshiping pastor chris.our God is a jealous God i hope there havn't forgoten dat!
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by mellie: 4:12pm On Jun 24, 2009
Christians these days are busy following pastors and not God. They forget that the pastor is just a mere human being who is falllible. They may want to dress like him or fry their hair becos he does so but the truth remains that he is not their creator. that's why they get all dissappointed or jump ship when they spot a flaw on the pastor's character.The truth remains that there are are many so called 'Men of God' who will not make heaven because they run their churches as money making ventures hence performing fake miracles etc. A lot of their members may reach the pearly gates because they believed through their sermons and 'miracles'but on that day of judgement to their utmost surprise,God willl say to these vain 'Gods of Men': I KNOW YOU NOT.
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by mayonyi(f): 4:54pm On Jun 24, 2009
these are signs of the endtime!evry1 shuld knw there stand
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by donnie(m): 2:49pm On Jun 25, 2009
mellie:
Christians these days are busy following pastors and not God. They forget that the pastor is just a mere human being who is falllible. They may want to dress like him or fry their hair becos he does so but the truth remains that he is not their creator. that's why they get all dissappointed or jump ship when they spot a flaw on the pastor's character.The truth remains that there are are many so called 'Men of God' who will not make heaven because they run their churches as money making ventures hence performing fake miracles etc. A lot of their members may reach the pearly gates because they believed through their sermons and 'miracles'but on that day of judgement to their utmost surprise,God willl say to these vain 'Gods of Men': I KNOW YOU NOT.
So we can safely conclude that pastor Chris will not make heaven abi?

So it is people like Mellie that will make heaven? U see your life?
Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by nuraabi: 3:36pm On Jun 25, 2009
the school is a theatre of folly
just a waste of time and souls are perishing needlessly

Benny Hinn the showman said he was healed , who side NOTHING, BUT HE HAS ACCESS THE THE BEST DOCTORS MONEY CAN BUY, SO while he decieves he takes care of number one.
Same Chris and his cronies have the best medical attention meny can buy of course with the help of donations of miracles seekers in his school

First hand experience of a case they said they healed and the poor woman stopped her medication, but a wise daughter advised otherwise when the healing did not heal maybe as the mantra
[she did not have eneogh faith]
[how to recieve healing and keep it]
[bla bla bla
and the other nonesense we heal from this crooks

John G lake a blatant fraud and racist also had a FLIPPING SCHOOL.

grow up
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