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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2015
iblawi:
Even in Syria rebels are not classified as terrorists. Go get the difference. Go ask them why?
What?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2015
iblawi:
Even in Syria rebels are not classified as terrorists. Go get the difference. Go ask them why?
what?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:39pm On Dec 06, 2015
jln115:
what?
Water.

Rebels are different from terrorist in every way.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 06, 2015
iblawi:
Water.

Rebels are different from terrorist in every way.
The acts they commit are different, but they can also be the same group! for exp ISIS and Boko Harm.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:52pm On Dec 06, 2015
jln115:
The acts they commit are different, but they can also be the same group! for exp ISIS and Boko Harm.
Boko Haram and ISIS are terrorists groups not rebels. But Seleka is a rebel group.

You can't know the difference cos have never faced 1. Nigeria have face rebel group and terrorists group so we know the difference.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:11pm On Dec 06, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 10:12pm On Dec 06, 2015
scully95:
[img]http://1.bp..com/-jggJDbQXIV4/VmShi6QHYgI/AAAAAAAAqkQ/cLgXCyiQ-v0/s640/s-300.jpg[/img]
Syria is ready to deploy the fearsome S-300 air-defence system supplied by its Russian ally. The anti-aircraft surface-to-air missiles will give Syria control over its territory and the capability to shoot down any intrusive warplane or missile. NATO warplanes beware!

The fatal shoot-down of a Russian fighter jet by a Turkish F-16 two weeks ago has given urgency to installing the air-defence system. It is as much in Russia’s interest as it is in Syria’s to have air cover – and the S-300, and its newer generation, the S-400, are reckoned to be the best technology in the world for that job.

“It’s a top-of-the range weapon”, says the British defence publication, IHS Jane’s, probably surpassing the American Patriot missile system. The Russian-made S-300 can take out any modern fighter plane or missile, including Cruise missiles, at a range of up 150 kilometres and an altitude of 27 kilometres.

According to a senior officer at the Syria-Russia joint military operations room in Damascus, the mobile S-300 is ready for deployment at various locations across the country.


Translated from Arabic language Alrai Media (thanks to the reliable Fort Russ Russian news site), the senior Syrian officer at the operations room is quoted as saying: “Soon Syria will announce that any country using the airspace without coordinating with Damascus will be viewed as hostile and [we] will shoot the jet down without warning. Those willing to fight terrorism and coordinate with the military leadership will be granted safe corridors.”
This may seem like a dangerous escalation. American fighter jets have been bombing Syrian territory since September 2014, having carried out thousands of air strikes allegedly against the Islamic State (IS) terror group (also known by its Arabic name Daesh).

Since the Paris terror attacks last month, France has stepped up its air strikes in Syria too. In the past week, Britain and Germany parliaments have voted for their air forces to join the other NATO members in aerial operations. The US-led bombing coalition in Syria also includes Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Russia is the only country whose military aircraft are legally deployed in Syria because Moscow has the full consent of the Syrian government. All the others do not have consent from Damascus.

So we have at least seven foreign powers deploying their warplanes to bomb Syrian territory – all in violation of international law.


It is irrelevant whether the US-led alliance claims to be fighting terrorists, or whether they claim it is in “self-defence” as France, Britain and Germany are. The Germany justice minister Heiko Maas, speaking after the Bundestag voted for military action this week, claimed that the United Nations Security Council resolution passed last month in the wake of the Paris attacks makes the German intervention legal. That UNSC resolution does not specifically sanction military action.
In any case, the ultimate legal criterion is the position of the Syrian state authorities. Western governments and their media have done everything to discredit, demonise and delegitimise the Syrian government. That’s part of the US-led criminal enterprise for regime change in Syria. But the fact remains, Syria is a sovereign state fully entitled the legal rights of all other UN members.

If the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad – which is the internationally recognised governing authority of Syria and retains its seat at the UN – does not consent to foreign military intervention, then that intervention is illegal, as Moscow and Damascus have repeatedly pointed out.

Syria, with the S-300 missile system supplied by its Russian ally, now has the technical means to defend its borders and airspace from all intruders. It also has the legal right to defend the inviolability of its territory. After all, US President Barack Obama invoked this rightwith regard to Turkey after the shoot-down of the Russian Su-24. Obama said Turkey had “every right to protect its skies” (even though the evidence shows that the Russian fighter jet did not breach Turkish territory).

In other words: what’s good for Turkey is good for Syria, as for any other nation.



Now, some might say it is a reckless move for Syria to train its skies with the powerful S-300. If a US, French, British or German warplane is shot down then that may ignite a full-on war with the American NATO military alliance. Russia would inevitably be dragged into the fight, which could slide into a world war between nuclear powers.
But hold on a minute. That logic amounts to the US and its allies using such fear as a weapon to disarm others and to prevent sovereign states from exercising their rights.

Such a dynamic is a blank cheque for powers to bully and oppress others.

As Russian President Vladimir Putin has said time and again, the issue is one abiding by international law. Without respect for international law then the world resorts to the law of the jungle and barbarism, as Putin said in his recent state of the nation speech.

What we have seen in recent years since the US-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2001-2003 is the wholesale erosion of sovereignty. This has involved the overt deployment of military force and the covert use of “asymmetric war”, says American political analyst Randy Martin (who writes at Crookedbough.com).

“The use of proxy military force by the US and its NATO allies has been seen in regime-change operations in Libya, Syria and Ukraine, combined with media propaganda campaigns and economic sanctions,” says Martin. “A key strategy here by the Washington-led powers is to erode sovereign rights of designated enemy states.”

The deployment of so-called Islamist terror groups to destabilise Syria as with neo-Nazi paramilitaries in Ukraine is all part of the West’s asymmetric warfare.

For whatever reason, the US bombing coalition is claiming that it is combating the IS jihadists in Syria. However, the evidence shows that Western “combat” efforts in Syria are very late in coming and not very effective, indicating a lack of commitment to genuinely defeat the terror network.



There is also reason to believe that the NATO rush to bomb IS oil smuggling routes in Syria is really motivated by a need to cover up the tracks of Western collusion with the terror groups. The American CIA and British MI6, along with Turk military intelligence, have been implicated in running the terror “rat lines”. Russian intelligence is lifting the lid on this sordid racket.
Western air strikes without the approval of the Syrian government are not only illegal, they lack credibility in their stated aim.

But either way, the imperative here is that Syria re-establishes its sovereignty and the principles of international law. If Syria is lost, then Western state sponsored banditry and terrorism will only escalate. Russia is already being targeted by the West’s asymmetric warfare, as is Iran and China.

Therefore, a line has to be drawn. And with Russia’s military support, Syria has the power to do just that. From now on, NATO warplanes violating Syrian territory should be put on notice. Keep out or get shot down.

The views expressed in this article are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Nairaland, and Nigeria Property.

http://nigeriaproperty-real..com/2015/12/syria-right-to-hit-nato-warplanes_6.html
Am smelling war in Syria.

Not necessarily a nuclear war.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 11:15pm On Dec 06, 2015
Side Fact....

The original Denel Raptor long range glide bombs were initially designed to carry low kilotonne nuclear warheads.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:50pm On Dec 06, 2015
agaugust:
[s]You had only 250 troops and that's just 3 platoons, at most 5 officers total and they fought for only 15 hours before running away to hide under the armpit of France's troops at the Bangui airport......your coward officers pushed the lower rank troops forward to die while officers were hiding behind the men that died.

Nigeria fought with 30,000 troops for 6 years, so we lose more men, but we have won the war, you did not win yours because SANDF and your special forces are afraid of death, you abandoned Bangui in her day of trouble..... Cowards and heartless SANDF.

28 Nigerian officers story is speculation or an outright lie.....the journalist said they had secret military burial, so if the burial was a military secret, how did she know about it since it is a classified military secret?

She made up the story......that's why she CANNOT name or list the 28 officers or name the place and date they fought any battle. Special forces ops are secrets, the journalists do NOT have access to special forces secrets.

That news report is a figment of private imaginations, goes into thrash bin until the journalist proves anything with evidence[/s]
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No citations = trolling

Luckily I have citations cool cool

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:50pm On Dec 06, 2015
agaugust:
[s]You were dumb enough to be fooled by a journalist fabricating fantasy stories to sell her newspaper.[/s]
Prove it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:55pm On Dec 06, 2015
agaugust:
[s]
PKK lives inside Turkey and blow up hundreds of Turkish citizens at random when they attack the capital city and other towns. ISIS operators live inside USA, they just massacred 14 Americans inside California last week.

Paris has ISIS operators living inside France and bõmbïng Paris at random killing the French citizens in hundreds and forcing Paris into paralyzed lock down mode for days.....France has officially declared a national state of emergency.

All those three NATO military forces have not saved their own homeland from terrorists, so Nigeria has not done badly with almost 100 million Islamic believers resident inside Nigeria, we have more Muslims than the whole population of France, we face 100 times more risk potential.

Rooivalk helicopter arrival did not defeat M23, you cannot win asymmetric war from the air, hundreds of powerful NATO fighter jets including mighty Rafale and Typhoons 4++ generation jet fighters have bömbed ISIS about 10,000 times in two years and ISIS is still holding tight to it's territory and exporting oil from Iraq doing big business. The frustrated USA has announced last week that special forces will now be deployed on ground to battle ISIS....you can't win such war with air power . M23 was killed by multinational ground troops from Tanzania, South Africa, Malawi and all troops under Tanzanian leadership/command....plus Tanzanian heavy artillery from D-30 howitzers that pounded M23 positions into powder before ground troops moved in to mop up what was left of a wrecked M23 force.....you failed to give credit to Tanzanian army heavy artillery prowess.....you glory thief !

Your Rooivalk is a rebel worthy helicopter, go test it against an enemy that has anti-aircraft missiles[/s]
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1. UN accredited Rooivalk with final defeat of the M23
1a. Our mortars were more relevant than the D20's
1b. Provide citations please

2. Your Army is a rebel worthy army, go test it against a conventional army

These are nothing more than the squeals of a butthurt little boy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:03am On Dec 07, 2015
iblawi:
Boko Haram and ISIS are terrorists groups not rebels. But Seleka is a rebel group.

You can't know the difference cos have never faced 1. Nigeria have face rebel group and terrorists group so we know the difference.
Have YOU faced a terrorist group? Have YOU faced a rebel group? Are YOU in the Nigerian Defence force? Have YOU ever fired a rifle in your life?

Don't come here with your ignorant B.S mate!! Just because you live in Nigeria, doesn't mean your an expert on Terrorist/Rebel groups.

Rebel groups, capture land.....Terrorist groups commit terrorist acts like suicide bombings.....ISIS and Boko Haram do both.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m):
jln115:
Have YOU faced a terrorist group? Have YOU faced a rebel group? Are YOU in the Nigerian Defence force? Have YOU ever fired a rifle in your life?

Don't come here with your ignorant B.S mate!! Just because you live in Nigeria, doesn't mean your an expert on Terrorist/Rebel groups.

Rebel groups, capture land.....Terrorist groups commit terrorist acts like suicide bombings.....ISIS and Boko Haram do both.
And how sure are you that am not a force man? How do you know I've never fired a gun or rifle b4?

Everyone is fighting terrorism in Nigeria. We didn't leave it for the force men alone. That is another difference dummy.

FYI, terrorists capture land dummy, Boko Haram and ISIS are good example. You absolutely know nothing about terrorism.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:00pm On Dec 07, 2015
iblawi:
1. And how sure are you that am not a force man? How do you know I've never fired a gun or rifle b4?

Everyone is fighting terrorism in Nigeria. 2. We didn't leave it for the force men alone. That is another difference dummy.

FYI, terrorists capture land dummy, Boko Haram and ISIS are good example. You absolutely know nothing about terrorism.
I never said im sure.... i was asking you if you were in the military and i was asking you if you've ever shot a Rifle!! Your above respond however is answer enough.

Ok so have YOU physically fought terrorism??

Ok retaard tell me whats the difference between a terrorist group and a rebel group, when one ignores terrorist attacks for example suicide bombing ect ect ?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
Patchesagain:
No citations = trolling

Luckily I have citations cool cool
You have an artwork photo of Nigerian army regular infantry troops which you post fraudulently as special forces troops.

You have no name of the town or location or date of the fake battle you are saying Nigerian special forces got wiped out fighting.

You claim the casualty numbers come from a secret military burial, if its secret how did you attend a secret military burial to count of coffins and graves? Old man fraudster !!!!!

Nigeria's three armed forces combined have over 4,000 special forces, you claim we had only 46......how does that make sense.

You have NO citation to prove your fraudulent claim, that's why you a wrong post photo, your photo citation is of year 1990s Liberian war Nigerian army infantry carrying old FN-FAL rifles we don't even use anymore as standard issue, and you label it as Special forces war against Boko Haram war.

Your comment goes down into a bottomless pit.....waste of time and browsing megabytes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:39pm On Dec 07, 2015
jln115:
Neither isis, pkk ect ect are occupying land in France, USA or Turkey. Boko Harm on the otherhand occupy a vast majority of your territory.
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Name the towns and cities currently occupied by Boko Haram in Nigeria today.... We are eager to know
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:21pm On Dec 07, 2015
jln115:
1. So now your comparing jets to Attack helicopters?? And yes, the Rooivalk turned the tide in DRC with regards to the m23!!

2. Also I never took any credit away from Tanzania or Malawi. All I was pointing out, was the majority of the FIB consist out of SANDF soldiers.
1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees.

Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war, yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them.

2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles grin grin

When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:22pm On Dec 07, 2015
jln115:
1. So now your comparing jets to Attack helicopters?? And yes, the Rooivalk turned the tide in DRC with regards to the m23!!

2. Also I never took any credit away from Tanzania or Malawi. All I was pointing out, was the majority of the FIB consist out of SANDF soldiers.
1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees.

Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war.

http://www.ibtimes.com/us-apache-helicopters-attack-isis-base-report-1816402

Yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them.

2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles grin grin

When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:35pm On Dec 07, 2015
Patchesagain:
Prove it
Nigerian special forces are actually the ones wiping out Boko Haram, not the other way around you old man fraudster !!!

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html

Extreme times call for extreme methods, goes the phrase. So, with the growing brazenness of terror group Boko Haram in the North-East, the Nigerian government proceeded to create a Special Forces unit, a team of elite military personnel trained for extreme battle scenarios. Trained in an Eastern European country, the troops, drawn from the Nigerian Army, Navy and Air Force, make up a fierce fighting force that is proving to be effective in necessary areas.

What makes the Special Forces unit such a dangerous, effective one? A military insider disclosed that some reasons are intense martial arts and survival training, sophisticated weapons handling and the array of tech at their disposal. “Without giving away too much,” the source said, “The Nigerian Special Forces are not personnel to be trifled with, by anyone.”

No easy job.

Their reputation grows by the day, too, with captured insurgents revealing that Boko Haram commanders often issuing stern warnings to their fighters to avoid run-ins with the Special Forces unit troops. A Defence source even attributes that to the doggedness of the men in pursuing, sometimes even hunting, insurgents and engaging them. He offered an anecdote, wherein a group of Boko Haram terrorists where approaching and the men grabbed their weapons and kit and cheerfully engaged the insurgents in a brief but victorious encounter.


The nature of their operation makes it impossible to be reported in the mainstream, owing to the tradition worldwide which sees Special Forces units’ activities cloaked in secrecy. It is that mystery, however, which additionally makes them effective, according to military experts.
The unit, also, played a key part in the dislodgement of Boko Haram from once-dreaded Sambisa Forest.

Security insiders told Daily Trust that there has never been any doubt on the capabilities of Nigerian officers and soldiers. “We all know the issues have to do with training and equipment,” one said, adding that the coming of the Special Forces unit has proven once again that the Nigerian military is up to the task.

In the beginning

The Special Forces unit first assembled in Bauchi, from where they were escorted to Borno State, where the need for their unique skill sets was dire. When they arrived, the Bama axis was too hot, so they were deployed there and were said to have performed effectively. During those particular operations, they were constantly on the offensive, in many cases sending insurgents running.

The Special Forces were so effective that observers mistook them for the mercenaries said to have been hired by the government of the day, probably because they wore uniforms which looked nothing like the civilian populace had seen before.



They are also known for using the Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle, as well as being instrumental in weakening and dislodging many Boko Haram camps in Borno State. In addition, they operate in Yobe and Adamawa states.

Secret wars

When Daily Trust requested information regarding the Special Forces unit, Army Spokesman Colonel Sani Usman responded thus: “No country discloses information about its Special Forces, Nigeria inclusive.” But he added that the nation does have such a unit fighting terrorists alongside their colleagues, “and they are doing creditably well.”

Colonel Usman also stressed the need to remember the efforts of regular troops on ground in the North-East. “The fight against terrorism in Nigeria is a collective responsibility among the Armed Forces, the police and other security forces,” he added.


http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html#fmoEHi6g3IrggbLE.99



If South African special forces of today, ZERO experienced Zulus, fight Nigeria's battle hardened special forces, Zulu SF will be wiped out !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:18am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
[s]You have an artwork photo of Nigerian army regular infantry troops which you post fraudulently as special forces troops.

You have no name of the town or location or date of the fake battle you are saying Nigerian special forces got wiped out fighting.

You claim the casualty numbers come from a secret military burial, if its secret how did you attend a secret military burial to count of coffins and graves? Old man fraudster !!!!!

Nigeria's three armed forces combined have over 4,000 special forces, you claim we had only 46......how does that make sense.

You have NO citation to prove your fraudulent claim, that's why you a wrong post photo, your photo citation is of year 1990s Liberian war Nigerian army infantry carrying old FN-FAL rifles we don't even use anymore as standard issue, and you label it as Special forces war against Boko Haram war.

Your comment goes down into a bottomless pit.....waste of time and browsing megabytes[/s].
I have a citation

You do not have any, for any of your claims.

No citations = trolling (you said so yourself)
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:19am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
Name the towns and cities currently occupied by Boko Haram in Nigeria today.... We are eager to know
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He said territory

And that territory is Sambisa forest
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:21am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
[s]
1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees.

Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war, yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them.

2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles grin grin

When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to [/s]
1. Rooivalk has Ingwe and Mokopa

2. South Africa provided larger numbers - fact. South Africa provided the Rooivalks - fact. We did most of the fighting

When your rebel worthy army is tested against an enemy with Jets, massed artillery and SAM missiles, come back and talk to us grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:23am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
[s]Nigerian special forces are actually the ones wiping out Boko Haram, not the other way around you old man fraudster !!!

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html

Extreme times call for extreme methods, goes the phrase. So, with the growing brazenness of terror group Boko Haram in the North-East, the Nigerian government proceeded to create a Special Forces unit, a team of elite military personnel trained for extreme battle scenarios. Trained in an Eastern European country, the troops, drawn from the Nigerian Army, Navy and Air Force, make up a fierce fighting force that is proving to be effective in necessary areas.

What makes the Special Forces unit such a dangerous, effective one? A military insider disclosed that some reasons are intense martial arts and survival training, sophisticated weapons handling and the array of tech at their disposal. “Without giving away too much,” the source said, “The Nigerian Special Forces are not personnel to be trifled with, by anyone.”

No easy job.

Their reputation grows by the day, too, with captured insurgents revealing that Boko Haram commanders often issuing stern warnings to their fighters to avoid run-ins with the Special Forces unit troops. A Defence source even attributes that to the doggedness of the men in pursuing, sometimes even hunting, insurgents and engaging them. He offered an anecdote, wherein a group of Boko Haram terrorists where approaching and the men grabbed their weapons and kit and cheerfully engaged the insurgents in a brief but victorious encounter.


The nature of their operation makes it impossible to be reported in the mainstream, owing to the tradition worldwide which sees Special Forces units’ activities cloaked in secrecy. It is that mystery, however, which additionally makes them effective, according to military experts.
The unit, also, played a key part in the dislodgement of Boko Haram from once-dreaded Sambisa Forest.

Security insiders told Daily Trust that there has never been any doubt on the capabilities of Nigerian officers and soldiers. “We all know the issues have to do with training and equipment,” one said, adding that the coming of the Special Forces unit has proven once again that the Nigerian military is up to the task.

In the beginning

The Special Forces unit first assembled in Bauchi, from where they were escorted to Borno State, where the need for their unique skill sets was dire. When they arrived, the Bama axis was too hot, so they were deployed there and were said to have performed effectively. During those particular operations, they were constantly on the offensive, in many cases sending insurgents running.

The Special Forces were so effective that observers mistook them for the mercenaries said to have been hired by the government of the day, probably because they wore uniforms which looked nothing like the civilian populace had seen before.



They are also known for using the Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle, as well as being instrumental in weakening and dislodging many Boko Haram camps in Borno State. In addition, they operate in Yobe and Adamawa states.

Secret wars

When Daily Trust requested information regarding the Special Forces unit, Army Spokesman Colonel Sani Usman responded thus: “No country discloses information about its Special Forces, Nigeria inclusive.” But he added that the nation does have such a unit fighting terrorists alongside their colleagues, “and they are doing creditably well.”

Colonel Usman also stressed the need to remember the efforts of regular troops on ground in the North-East. “The fight against terrorism in Nigeria is a collective responsibility among the Armed Forces, the police and other security forces,” he added.


http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html#fmoEHi6g3IrggbLE.99



If South African special forces of today, ZERO experienced Zulus, fight Nigeria's battle hardened special forces, Zulu SF will be wiped out ![/s]
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You still havent proven your claim

As for your boys v the Recce's.... ask the Cubans, Angolans, M23 and Seleka how that went for them
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:41am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
Nigerian special forces are actually the ones wiping out Boko Haram, not the other way around you old man fraudster !!!

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html

Extreme times call for extreme methods, goes the phrase. So, with the growing brazenness of terror group Boko Haram in the North-East, the Nigerian government proceeded to create a Special Forces unit, a team of elite military personnel trained for extreme battle scenarios. Trained in an Eastern European country, the troops, drawn from the Nigerian Army, Navy and Air Force, make up a fierce fighting force that is proving to be effective in necessary areas.

What makes the Special Forces unit such a dangerous, effective one? A military insider disclosed that some reasons are intense martial arts and survival training, sophisticated weapons handling and the array of tech at their disposal. “Without giving away too much,” the source said, “The Nigerian Special Forces are not personnel to be trifled with, by anyone.”

No easy job.

Their reputation grows by the day, too, with captured insurgents revealing that Boko Haram commanders often issuing stern warnings to their fighters to avoid run-ins with the Special Forces unit troops. A Defence source even attributes that to the doggedness of the men in pursuing, sometimes even hunting, insurgents and engaging them. He offered an anecdote, wherein a group of Boko Haram terrorists where approaching and the men grabbed their weapons and kit and cheerfully engaged the insurgents in a brief but victorious encounter.


The nature of their operation makes it impossible to be reported in the mainstream, owing to the tradition worldwide which sees Special Forces units’ activities cloaked in secrecy. It is that mystery, however, which additionally makes them effective, according to military experts.
The unit, also, played a key part in the dislodgement of Boko Haram from once-dreaded Sambisa Forest.

Security insiders told Daily Trust that there has never been any doubt on the capabilities of Nigerian officers and soldiers. “We all know the issues have to do with training and equipment,” one said, adding that the coming of the Special Forces unit has proven once again that the Nigerian military is up to the task.

In the beginning

The Special Forces unit first assembled in Bauchi, from where they were escorted to Borno State, where the need for their unique skill sets was dire. When they arrived, the Bama axis was too hot, so they were deployed there and were said to have performed effectively. During those particular operations, they were constantly on the offensive, in many cases sending insurgents running.

The Special Forces were so effective that observers mistook them for the mercenaries said to have been hired by the government of the day, probably because they wore uniforms which looked nothing like the civilian populace had seen before.



They are also known for using the Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle, as well as being instrumental in weakening and dislodging many Boko Haram camps in Borno State. In addition, they operate in Yobe and Adamawa states.

Secret wars

When Daily Trust requested information regarding the Special Forces unit, Army Spokesman Colonel Sani Usman responded thus: “No country discloses information about its Special Forces, Nigeria inclusive.” But he added that the nation does have such a unit fighting terrorists alongside their colleagues, “and they are doing creditably well.”

Colonel Usman also stressed the need to remember the efforts of regular troops on ground in the North-East. “The fight against terrorism in Nigeria is a collective responsibility among the Armed Forces, the police and other security forces,” he added.


http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/inside-special-forces-nigeria-s-most-feared-fighting-unit/118295.html#fmoEHi6g3IrggbLE.99



If South African special forces of today, ZERO experienced Zulus, fight Nigeria's battle hardened special forces, Zulu SF will be wiped out !
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The record stand. BH killed 28 officers of the Nigerian Elite forces. Anyway, Nigeria's special forces are only one year old and that way we really cannot expect any better. Inexperience is the word.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:27am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
Name the towns and cities currently occupied by Boko Haram in Nigeria today.... We are eager to know
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Dude BH held an area the size of fvcking Wales at one stage mate!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:59am On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
1. The Rafale jet b.ombing ISIS is using laser guided b.ombs and guided missiles which the Rooivalk does not have, yet the jets have not defeated ISIS, it is certain if your Rooivalk appears in Iraq ISIS will pluck your Rooivalks from the sky like kids pluck mangoes from trees.

Not trying to compare jets vs helicopters, I can educate you that the superior Apache helicopter with guided missiles is also fighting ISIS and has not won the war.

http://www.ibtimes.com/us-apache-helicopters-attack-isis-base-report-1816402

Yet the Apache is superior to the Rooivalk.....dude go sit down, one Rooivalk did not defeat M23, the battle was won on the ground by artillery and infantry plus armoured vehicles that plunged into M23 bases and uprooted them.

2. South Africa has larger numbers, but the commanding brain is Tanzanian brigadier who plans ALL the battles against M23 so SANDF simply follows his orders and use his brain to fight, and the heaviest firpower on ground is D-30 howitzer heavy artillery guns of Tanzania, SANDF is just running around with rifles grin grin

When your rebel worthy Rooivalk is tested against an enemy that has 23mm x2 anti-aircraft guns and MANPAD missiles, come back talk to us
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1. The Rooivalk can be armed with the makopa.

2. M23 had 23mm anti-aircraft guns, yet couldn't shoot down the Rooivalk

3. the US only started bombing ISIS this year, they also have 0 troops on the ground!! We had/have more than 1500 troops in the DRC + 3 Rooivalk.

4. How is the Apache superior to our Rooivalk?

5. Did the Tanzanian brigadier physically command SANDF sections,Platoons,Battalions, Regiment when we were physically fighting M23??
Also, who do you think the UN calls, when they want to retake a base that they've lost??
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:35pm On Dec 08, 2015
Patchesagain:
You still havent proven your claim

As for your boys v the Recce's.... ask the Cubans, Angolans, M23 and Seleka how that went for them
The old apartheid era Recces are dead or retired.....stop posting stories about 1970s-1980s expired soldiers. Special forces are always young blood fresh men not retiree old men with weak aged hearts and lungs.

Show us current achievements of current South African special forces, as I have posted those of Nigeria who kill Bokos in thousands TODAY not 1980s
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
jln115:
Dude BH held an area the size of fvcking Wales at one stage mate!!
Past history, old expired information... what of today? Name the towns Boko Harams holds today the ones they held las cost them their fvcking lives !!! What's the use of holding land if you will end up deād in six months on that land?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
mzilakazi:
The record stand. BH killed 28 officers of the Nigerian Elite forces. Anyway, Nigeria's special forces are only one year old and that way we really cannot expect any better. Inexperience is the word.
It's no record, no date, no names, no battle location all is = Hallucinations.

Nope the army always had Nigerian special forces from 1960s Biafra war including the great 3rd Marine Commandos. I don't know any standard army in the world that has no special forces from old times even Togo Républiqué has special forces.

The story says last year Nigerian SF went for more training in Europe, not that they just became SF you dummy. Learn to comprehend when you read, and always try to think deep, don't let journalists make a fool of you.

Nigerian Navy SBS special forces was formed 10 years ago and have fought wars 10 years non-stop battlefield experience from Niger Delta war to North East war.

Show me the where the current Zulu recruits in South African special forces have fought a war for 10 years till today, 95% of today's South African special forces have never killed a human being in combat since the day they were born by their mothers in Soweto, new boys you recruited to replace your old apartheid enemy soldiers in 1994 show us their own Zulu 10 year long war experience since 1994.....show us now !!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:00pm On Dec 08, 2015
jln115:
1. The Rooivalk can be armed with the makopa.

2. M23 had 23mm anti-aircraft guns, yet couldn't shoot down the Rooivalk

3. the US only started bombing ISIS this year, they also have 0 troops on the ground!! We had/have more than 1500 troops in the DRC + 3 Rooivalk.

4. How is the Apache superior to our Rooivalk?

5. Did the Tanzanian brigadier physically command SANDF sections,Platoons,Battalions, Regiment when we were physically fighting M23??
Also, who do you think the UN calls, when they want to retake a base that they've lost??
1. Mokopa is not in service with SANDF, that's why you could not use it in Congo

2. How many 23mm did M23 rebels have, and how mobile were they, plus they had no radar ! M23 could not shoot down the Ukrainian Mi-35 Hinds too, so nothing special in your rebel worthy Rooivalk.

3. USA has been bo.mbing ISIS since 2014, and next month is 2016 you dummy.

4. No contest, Apache has fire control/targeting Radar....beats Rooivalk by all standards.

5. Tanzanian Brigadier creates battle plans and commands/controls ALL troops, he commands SANDF officers who carry out his order passing it down to platoons and sections, Tanzanian army commands South African army in battle.....live with that shame forever tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:15pm On Dec 08, 2015
agaugust:
It's no record, no date, no names, no battle location all is = Hallucinations.

Nope the army always had Nigerian special forces from 1960s Biafra war including the great 3rd Marine Commandos. I don't know any standard army in the world that has no special forces from old times even Togo Républiqué has special forces.

The story says last year Nigerian SF went for more training in Europe, not that they just became SF you dummy. Learn to comprehend when you read, and always try to think deep, don't let journalists make a fool of you.

Nigerian SBS special forces was formed 10 years ago and have fought wars 10 years non-stop battlefield experience from Niger Delta war to North East war.

Show me the where the current Zulu recruits in South African special forces have fought a war for 10 years till today, new boys you recruited to replace your old apartheid enemy soldiers in 1994 show us their own Zulu 10 year long war experience since 1994.....show us now !!
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Rebels seldom score against government troops due to their poor nature of arms they carry. Yet in Nigeria they managed to score 28 goals. Officers are not shot easily in any war, but Boko killed 28. What a record!!!!!

Remember we don't add number of privates and NCOs. Just ranks from captain to colonel of highly trained soldiers. Where were soldiers when they lost 28 of their officers? I mean 28 captains and majors at once.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:24pm On Dec 08, 2015
Buhari in fury over the killing of 28 officers of 72 Special forces who were buried secretly.

http://therainbowonline.net/buhari-fury-death-28-elite-soldiers-boko-haram-fight/
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