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Annunaki:
It really amuses me when muslims accuse anybody of being hypocrites when the islam they profess is the standard definition of hypocrisy and intolerance.

Yes, of course and Christians are the saints

HaneefahRN:
I don't support some of his points but he made sense. Don't expect her to do ur researches for u, do ur research and make ur own deductions, I know u're hate-filled and ignorance filled already, no need to waste time on u. Study what we call history of the religions.
Christians wld always talk like their religion was merely spread by being nice and turning the left cheek when slapped. Knowing the history of those ages will help shape ur view

You quoted adullam210 and me. If you were referring your mention to me I suggest you go through what I posted carefully. Joining my post with adullam210's post is unfair because my post didn't in any way support his opinion on the prophet. Thanks.

HaneefahRN:
I don't support some of his points but he made sense. Don't expect her to do ur researches for u, do ur research and make ur own deductions, I know u're hate-filled and ignorance filled already, no need to waste time on u. Study what we call history of the religions.
Christians wld always talk like their religion was merely spread by being nice and turning the left cheek when slapped. Knowing the history of those ages will help shape ur view

Nonsense. Islam is forged on hate for other religions

Read here
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infidel

Now read here


Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for ...


Islam's definition for infidel is what else? Mxm stop saying these things. Funny it's not the Christians that fight you now, e go clear from una eye finally, the world is tired of you muslims.

AishyWemsy:
go and read from the beginning if u don't get what we are saying here. Islam is a religion of peace, Muslims are peaceful, Terrorists are not Muslim. I bet if u became an actor u can interpret any role, is just like that

didn't muhammed kill those who reject his religion? How about raping captured women? Chopping off people head? Caravan raids?

oglalasioux:
You quoted adullam210 and me. If you were referring your mention to me I suggest you go through what I posted carefully. Joining my post with adullam210's post is unfair because my post didn't in any way support his opinion on the prophet. Thanks.

I'm very sorry, bro. I wanted him to see what u wrote.
I went through a forum comprising white men and they were discussing the issue of terrorism, the demonizing of Islam, the media propagandas, the popular saying that all terrorists are Muslims, etc and I was wowed. Some of these pple av never met real Muslims but the only thing they see abt Islam is the terrorism the media always attributes to it, but not minding that, these pple mostly free-thinkers and some Christians, overlooked prejudice and stereotyping and made their research into this issue. Some of them had met with many Muslims while travelling round the World, from the middle east to other Countries and were said to av been treated well, by the Muslims everyone paints black and are demonizing, this told them something was wrong somewhere. Although some still av their fears wc is normal, for this situation.
They came up with submissions that terrorism is a menace every sane human shld come together to fight against- gaps shld be bridged rather than fueling and propagating hatred against a particular set of pple - psychos wld always look for a means to justify their actions and many religions av been prey to this, blive it or not their are Christian terrorist grps, but it's more of a secret affair rather than the over-joy the media gets when it comes to Muslims- terrorism is being politicized- there is more to terrorism than mere religion, these pple av their agendas other than religion, etc.
But what do we see here, amidst pple who live with Muslims who even claim to av Muslims as friends? Ignorance- filled hatred.
I'av stopped caring though

gimakon:
Nonsense. Islam is forged on hate for other religions

Read here
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infidel

Now read here


Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for ...


Islam's definition for infidel is what else? Mxm stop saying these things. Funny it's not the Christians that fight you now, e go clear from una eye finally, the world is tired of you muslims.

Lolz. Sincerely, u made me laugh. U guys tell us not to quote the bible out of context but u want to quote the quran out of context. But I will oblige u this time.
That verse was revealed after the battle of Uhud, Abj Sufyan and other non-muslims, pagans of that time had just finished a massacre on Muslims inwhich some Muslims escaped, so when they got to a distance from the battle field, they felt regret that they had not run after the pple that escaped, they thought of going back, then Allah struck their heart wt awe, terror and fear, and they changed their resolve and sent a Madinah- bound villager to tell the Muslims they were coming back.
Sincerely, I don't care what u think, I wldn't want u to kill urself though, cos Islam and Muslims are here to stay. I remembered u once said ur closest friend is a Muslim, I wish I cld tell the guy to distance himself from u, cos u urself is a potential terrorist 'news flash, u don't av to be a Muslim to be a terrorist', I'm sure if many of the pple ranting cld get hold of guns, they wld probably kill all Muslims they see, but they wldn't be terrorist though since they are not doing it for Islam

HaneefahRN:
Lolz. Sincerely, u made me laugh. U guys tell us not to quote the bible out of context but u want to quote the quran out of context. But I will oblige u this time.
That verse was revealed after the battle of Uhud, Abj Sufyan and other non-muslims, pagans of that time had just finished a massacre on Muslims inwhich some Muslims escaped, so when they got to a distance from the battle field, they felt regret that they had not run after the pple that escaped, they thought of going back, then Allah struck their heart wt awe, terror and fear, and they changed their resolve and sent a Madinah- bound villager to tell the Muslims they were coming back.
Sincerely, I don't care what u think, I wldn't want u to kill urself though, cos Islam and Muslims are here to stay. I remembered u once said ur closest friend is a Muslim, I wish I cld tell the guy to distance himself from u, cos u urself is a potential terrorist 'news flash, u don't av to be a Muslim to be a terrorist', I'm sure if many of the pple ranting cld get hold of guns, they wld probably kill all Muslims they see, but they wldn't be terrorist though since they are not doing it for Islam

Yes I'm repeating it again, he's a muslim. And he follows us to church services at times, he for once said the truth that Christianity is different from islam when he followed us to church for the second time. His name is Usman.

Let me make something very clear to you. Don't cover evil when you see it. Muslim or not, terrorist or not, islam brought about harsh treatment you get in this religion section, even around the globe. You need to see the type of massacre your stupîd islamic brothers in Iraq and Syria bring upon even the Shia muslims, maybe by then this crap you say on here would have a rethink.

You cannot continue to kill people in the name of religion and bring people back to 1400 A.D or mohammedans regime of ancient time in the name of a religion and you expect a high and dine and wine treatment from the opposing religion.

Just yesterday, simply because someone gave the news of ISIS location to Russia, they tied his legs to a car, his right leg to another car, and drove to different directions and divided the man into TWO! So what the fúck are you saying? When I showed this video this morning to my muslim friend he was quiet. The only thing he said was, "if this is islam, I won't serve allah"

So what are you saying. Barbaric, demonic laws are approved by you? A religion that molest women? A religion of pedophiles? A religion of core illiteracy that's abhorred in major nations of this world is that what you call a religion?

Don't say annoying things further before you get on my nerves, I may not be the one to talk back to you, others will and I know you just may not like it

gimakon:
Yes I'm repeating it again, he's a muslim. And he follows us to church services at times, he for once said the truth that Christianity is different from islam when he followed us to church for the second time. His name is Usman.

Let me make something very clear to you. Don't cover evil when you see it. Muslim or not, terrorist or not, islam brought about harsh treatment you get in this religion section, even around the globe. You need to see the type of massacre your stupîd islamic brothers in Iraq and Syria bring upon even the Shia muslims, maybe by then this crap you say on here would have a rethink.

You cannot continue to kill people in the name of religion and bring people back to 1400 A.D or mohammedans regime of ancient time in the name of a religion and you expect a high and dine and wine treatment from the opposing religion.

Just yesterday, simply because someone gave the news of ISIS location to Russia, they tied his legs to a car, his right leg to another car, and drove to different directions and divided the man into TWO! So what the fúck are you saying? When I showed this video this morning to my muslim friend he was quiet. The only thing he said was, "if this is islam, I won't serve allah"

So what are you saying. Barbaric, demonic laws are approved by you? A religion that molest women? A religion of pedophiles? A religion of core illiteracy that's abhorred in major nations of this world is that what you call a religion?

Don't say annoying things further before you get on my nerves, I may not be the one to talk back to you, others will and I know you just may not like it

Blah blah blah. And wherever did u see me support terrorism? Many Muslims do not support ISIS or ISIL, Al-qaeda or whatever.
See, mister, I don't care what u think, I don't care if u or anyone gets mad cos of what I say, it's no problem of mine. I won't bother arguing wt u, continue believing what u will. I know my religion and that is all that matters

gimakon:
Yes I'm repeating it again, he's a muslim. And he follows us to church services at times, he for once said the truth that Christianity is different from islam when he followed us to church for the second time. His name is Usman.

Let me make something very clear to you. Don't cover evil when you see it. Muslim or not, terrorist or not, islam brought about harsh treatment you get in this religion section, even around the globe. You need to see the type of massacre your stupîd islamic brothers in Iraq and Syria bring upon even the Shia muslims, maybe by then this crap you say on here would have a rethink.

You cannot continue to kill people in the name of religion and bring people back to 1400 A.D or mohammedans regime of ancient time in the name of a religion and you expect a high and dine and wine treatment from the opposing religion.

Just yesterday, simply because someone gave the news of ISIS location to Russia, they tied his legs to a car, his right leg to another car, and drove to different directions and divided the man into TWO! So what the fúck are you saying? When I showed this video this morning to my muslim friend he was quiet. The only thing he said was, "if this is islam, I won't serve allah"

So what are you saying. Barbaric, demonic laws are approved by you? A religion that molest women? A religion of pedophiles? A religion of core illiteracy that's abhorred in major nations of this world is that what you call a religion?

Don't say annoying things further before you get on my nerves, I may not be the one to talk back to you, others will and I know you just may not like it

idi.ot

there are many christians who also go to mosque and who believe that islam is the best

daretodiffer:
idi.ot

there are many christians who also go to mosque and who believe that islam is the best

Yet they run away from Islam like everyday.
I'm not an idiot, you are the complete imbecîle here.

What happend to 6million who leave islam daily!
Don't argue see it

https://muslimstatistics./2012/12/14/al-jazeerah-6-million-muslims-convert-to-christianity-in-africa-each-year/

If this religion is so peaceful and without confusion, people wouldn't leave it, they leave Christianity and go to islam, when they realise the confusion you out them in, they come back home, we don't kill them like you animals do. We take them back.

Your religion is very annoying.

HaneefahRN:
Blah blah blah. And wherever did u see me support terrorism? Many Muslims do not support ISIS or ISIL, Al-qaeda or whatever.
See, mister, I don't care what u think, I don't care if u or anyone gets mad cos of what I say, it's no problem of mine. I won't bother arguing wt u, continue believing what u will. I know my religion and that is all that matters

Now tell me what am supposed to believe. Let me hear you.

HaneefahRN:
Blah blah blah. And wherever did u see me support terrorism? Many Muslims do not support ISIS or ISIL, Al-qaeda or whatever.
See, mister, I don't care what u think, I don't care if u or anyone gets mad cos of what I say, it's no problem of mine. I won't bother arguing wt u, continue believing what u will. I know my religion and that is all that matters

As long as you support the deeds and utterances of mohamed as recorded in the hadiths and quoran, you support terrorism because those are were mohamed laid the foundation of islamic terrorism being practised today. The precedence for isis tearing a man into two btw two cars was set by mohamed himself when he ordered that an old woman who insulted him be tied to two different camels and made to run in opposite directions.

gimakon:
Yet they run away from Islam like everyday.
I'm not an idiot, you are the complete imbecîle here.

What happend to 6million who leave islam daily!
Don't argue see it

https://muslimstatistics./2012/12/14/al-jazeerah-6-million-muslims-convert-to-christianity-in-africa-each-year/

If this religion is so peaceful and without confusion, people wouldn't leave it, they leave Christianity and go to islam, when they realise the confusion you out them in, they come back home, we don't kill them like you animals do. We take them back.

Your religion is very annoying.

Bla bla bal

It is sha still here

people have been running away since God knows when

People have been converting since God knows when

So it is not about population, it is about the fact that ISLAM is not going anywhere

Oya bite us

Annunaki:
As long as you support the deeds and utterances of mohamed as recorded in the hadiths and quoran, you support terrorism because those are were mohamed laid the foundation of islamic terrorism being practised today. The precedence for isis tearing a man into two btw two cars was set by mohamed himself when he ordered that an old woman who insulted him be tied to two different camels and made to run in opposite directions.

Yes she is a terrorist

And I am also a terrorist

You better watch out

We are coming soon to bomb daddy and mummy to smithrens

Annunaki:
As long as you support the deeds and utterances of mohamed as recorded in the hadiths and quoran, you support terrorism because those are were mohamed laid the foundation of islamic terrorism being practised today. The precedence for isis tearing a man into two btw two cars was set by mohamed himself when he ordered that an old woman who insulted him be tied to two different camels and made to run in opposite directions.

Can you imagine!
Yet she comes here to say super stupíd things to my hearing. How can they take a life they didn't create. They wear veils and are made to believe islam is angelic, when they act, you get infuriated.

When these muslims kill everyone, who would they rule?

HaneefahRN:
Blah blah blah. And wherever did u see me support terrorism? Many Muslims do not support ISIS or ISIL, Al-qaeda or whatever.
See, mister, I don't care what u think, I don't care if u or anyone gets mad cos of what I say, it's no problem of mine. I won't bother arguing wt u, continue believing what u will. I know my religion and that is all that matters

Saudi's repressive regime towards people of other faith is much worse than the muslim repression that Trump is advocating, yet you rightly condemn Trump as we all do while refusing to condemn Saudi Arabia. It is this blatant hypocrisy that we are against. Trump isn't a terrorist, so he should not be compared with one, neither is Saudi, but they are both disgusting bigots, and it is not ok to condemn one while remaining silent about the other.

If I was president, personally there wouldn't be anything like islam around me. God knows.

God bless China, Angola and other countries for taking that bold step.

Stupîd killers.

gimakon:
If I was president, personally there wouldn't be anything like islam around me. God knows.

God bless China, Angola and other countries for taking that bold step.

Stupîd killers.

You will never be president

So?

dorox:
Saudi's repressive regime towards people of other faith is much worse than the muslim repression that Trump is advocating, yet you rightly condemn Trump as we all do while refusing to condemn Saudi Arabia. It is this blatant hypocrisy that we are against. Trump isn't a terrorist, so he should not be compared with one, neither is Saudi, but they are both disgusting bigots, and it is not ok to condemn one while remaining silent about the other.

This is where islamic hypocrisy has no part 2. The ahmadiyyas are not even allowed entry into meccan and medina because their form of islam does not advocate killing apostates and infidels, like the salafis and wahabi sunnis (which the saudis are notorious of). An ahmadiyya has to lie before he can be allowed to do hajj in saudi arabia. A christian has to lie, change his name or deny christianity before the saudis can grant him\her entry visa. And to muslims this dicriminatory policy is ok, as long as it is for the good of islam.

If the orthodox and conservative muslim country like saudi arabia cannot allow non-muslims into their country, muslims should keep quiet and stop all the noise againt Donald Trump.

Annunaki:
As long as you support the deeds and utterances of mohamed as recorded in the hadiths and quoran, you support terrorism because those are were mohamed laid the foundation of islamic terrorism being practised today. The precedence for isis tearing a man into two btw two cars was set by mohamed himself when he ordered that an old woman who insulted him be tied to two different camels and made to run in opposite directions.

Lolz, U try too hard. The well known hadiths as regards how the prophet reacted to insults will be said by me, and they are backed by the Quran.
-The quran verses include
Q3:185- 'You will certainly bear much abuse from the followers of the previous books and the idol-worshippers. And if u are patient and keep ur duty, this is surely a matter of great resolution'
Q7 198-199- 'And if u invite the, to guidance, they hear not, thus sees them looking towards u, yet they see not. Hold fast to forgiveness and enjoin goodness and turn away from the ignorant'
Q2:109- Many of the pple of the Book wish they cld turn u back to disbelief after the truth hath come upon u, but forgive and overlook,
Q4:40 -'When u hear Allah's mssgs disbelieved and mocked ar , sit not with them until they enter into other discourse'
And many more
- As regards the Prophet's reaction to insults
- there was a woman who wld always pour dirt, sewage on the Prophet whenever he passes near her house towards the mosque. The prophet always kept quiet without any action. The woman feel ill, and he noticed for some days the woman didn't do her usual duties and called upon some of his companions for them to go and check if anything is wrong with the woman. When the woman saw the Prophet she was scared thinking he was there to retribute her for her actions, he greeted her and said he had come to see her cos he had noticed her absence, the woman was awed by this and accepted Islam.
- A man called Suhail Ibn Amar was a very good orator back then and used his talent in making speeches against the Prophet. He was captured as the battle of Badr and brought before the Prophet. Someone suggested they knock out his teeth, to disable him from speaking well. The Prophet replied
'If I disfigured any of his limbs, God will disfigured mine in retribution'
- Some Jews addressing Muslims wld distort the greeting 'Asalam alaykum ' 'peace be upon u', to as-samu alaykum 'death be upon u'. One said it to the prophet and Aisha retorted back the same words and the Prophet disapproved and said God does not like harsh words.
- The prophet helped an old woman with her load from madinah to a neighbouring town, saying she was going away cos of a Muhammad who was leading the Arms astray from their forefathers. He politely carried her load and bear all the criticisms till the woman moved by his kindness later asked who he was, she was shocked to find out the person she had been running from was the one carrying her load and became a Muslim.
- There were four men who spread a rumor of immorality against Aisha. One of the four men was called 'Mistah'. He used to receive financial assistance from Abu Bakr (Aisha's father) and he swore never to help him again. Quran 24:22 was then revealed.
'let not the possesors of grace and means among u swear against giving to near relatives, poor and those who had flee God's way. Pardon, overlook. Do u not love that God forgives u?'
On hearing this Abu Bakr stopped the oath and asked for God's forgiveness.
Many of these are found in Al-bukhari and other hadith collectors books.
It's funny how we go to any length looking for hadiths tht dampens Islam, most of wc are fabricated or wt weak links, but overlook the numerous good ones, likewise the Quran, they capitalize on the violent ones revealed in times of war and overlook the numerous peaceful and compassionate ones. That is the same thing the psychos do to justify themselves.
Anyway, Islam doesn't support terrorism, u can chose to blive it or not. Not my problem

true2god:
This is where islamic hypocrisy has no part 2. The ahmadiyyas are not even allowed entry into meccan and medina because their form of islam does not advocate killing apostates and infidels, like the salafis and wahabi sunnis (which the saudis are notorious of). An ahmadiyya has to lie before he can be allowed to do hajj in saudi arabia. A christian has to lie, change his name or deny christianity before the saudis can grant him\her entry visa. And to muslims this dicriminatory policy is ok, as long as it is for the good of islam.

If the orthodox and conservative muslim country like saudi arabia cannot allow non-muslims into their country, muslims should keep quiet and stop all the noise againt Donald Trump.

Mr are u still talking?
Ur posts reeks of ignorance though, non-muslims are allowed into Saudi but are not allow to publicly practise their religion, why? Becos Saudi is not a secular Country, it's a Muslim nation, they av their reasons for that. Like the Vatican city where there are no mosques, they are also made up of small cities where there are no churches. Every immigrant into Saudi knows this, it's an open secret, so why crying? Other Muslim nations allow non-muslims and even av churches, so there is no basis here, or are u interested in living in Saudi ni? America is a secular country, if they decide to become a Christian country like many of u 'tolerant Christians' want and destroy the mosques therein and stop Muslims from coming in, no wahala.
About the Ahmaddiyah issue, they do not consider them Muslims not becos they are not violent (lolz), but becos their ideology comes with bid'ah- innovations into the religion wc is considered a sin, their leader had supposedly had a dream abt another prophet called 'Ahmad', who will come or came after Muhammad, or something and had revealed some prayers and actions outside the norms of Islam to him, and he started gathering followers.
It's like the numerous churches and their various doctrines, someone can wake up and say don't let's wear shoes cos probably Jesus didn't (I'm sure he did), or we won't get married cos Jesus didn't, etc.

true2god:
This is where islamic hypocrisy has no part 2. The ahmadiyyas are not even allowed entry into meccan and medina because their form of islam does not advocate killing apostates and infidels, like the salafis and wahabi sunnis (which the saudis are notorious of). An ahmadiyya has to lie before he can be allowed to do hajj in saudi arabia. A christian has to lie, change his name or deny christianity before the saudis can grant him\her entry visa. And to muslims this dicriminatory policy is ok, as long as it is for the good of islam.

If the orthodox and conservative muslim country like saudi arabia cannot allow non-muslims into their country, muslims should keep quiet and stop all the noise againt Donald Trump.

The issue at stake that the op and her muslim friends can't seem to understand is that being against terrorism alone is just not enough to characterise someone as a decent human being, that is just setting the bar too low for a well functioning society. The fact that extremist of islam, neo Nazzi racist and bigots of various shades are also opposed to terrorism should not not qualify them as nice people.

Going by the way they reason, Trump is not a terrorist and he is vigorously opposed to terrorism, so he must be a nice man. But the fact is Trump is a bigot even though he is opposed to terrorism, so he is not a nice person. Same applies to repressive islamic regimes, they are not nice even if they are against terrorism. We should condemn Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh and other relpressive islamic regimes with the same with the same voice we use in criticising Donald Trump.

HaneefahRN:
Mr are u still talking?
Ur posts reeks of ignorance though, non-muslims are allowed into Saudi but are not allow to publicly practise their religion, why? Becos Saudi is not a secular Country, it's a Muslim nation, they av their reasons for that. Like the Vatican city where there are no mosques, they are also made up of small cities where there are no churches. Every immigrant into Saudi knows this, it's an open secret, so why crying? Other Muslim nations allow non-muslims and even av churches, so there is no basis here, or are u interested in living in Saudi ni? America is a secular country, if they decide to become a Christian country like many of u 'tolerant Christians' want and destroy the mosques therein and stop Muslims from coming in, no wahala.
About the Ahmaddiyah issue, they do not consider them Muslims not becos they are not violent (lolz), but becos their ideology comes with bid'ah- innovations into the religion wc is considered a sin, their leader had supposedly had a dream abt another prophet called 'Ahmad', who will come or came after Muhammad, or something and had revealed some prayers and actions outside the norms of Islam to him, and he started gathering followers.
It's like the numerous churches and their various doctrines, someone can wake up and say don't let's wear shoes cos probably Jesus didn't (I'm sure he did), or we won't get married cos Jesus didn't, etc.

Jazakumllah khaeran sister. May Allah increase u in knowledge, u r so great, I was the only one here but u joined annd brought more facts. They are turning the thread into what I don't like, there suppose not to be hauling of abusive or insulting words. Points have been made. May Allah forgive us all.

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Say: Oh you who turn away
I do not worship what you worship,
nor do you worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship,
Nor will you worship what I worship.
Your way is yours, and my way is mine another (Quran 109)

another Quranic chapter that allow peaceful reign of any religion that could ever be. Peace out

HaneefahRN:
Mr are u still talking?
Ur posts reeks of ignorance though, non-muslims are allowed into Saudi but are not allow to publicly practise their religion, why? Becos Saudi is not a secular Country, it's a Muslim nation, they av their reasons for that. Like the Vatican city where there are no mosques, they are also made up of small cities where there are no churches. Every immigrant into Saudi knows this, it's an open secret, so why crying? Other Muslim nations allow non-muslims and even av churches, so there is no basis here, or are u interested in living in Saudi ni? America is a secular country, if they decide to become a Christian country like many of u 'tolerant Christians' want and destroy the mosques therein and stop Muslims from coming in, no wahala.
About the Ahmaddiyah issue, they do not consider them Muslims not becos they are not violent (lolz), but becos their ideology comes with bid'ah- innovations into the religion wc is considered a sin, their leader had supposedly had a dream abt another prophet called 'Ahmad', who will come or came after Muhammad, or something and had revealed some prayers and actions outside the norms of Islam to him, and he started gathering followers.
It's like the numerous churches and their various doctrines, someone can wake up and say don't let's wear shoes cos probably Jesus didn't (I'm sure he did), or we won't get married cos Jesus didn't, etc.

So by your admission, it is ok to be a nation of bigots provided it is an islamic nation. I guess Trump is trying to turn America into a Theocratic regime like Saudi Arabia , so why are you complaining?

gimakon:
Nonsense. Islam is forged on hate for other religions

Read here
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infidel

Now read here


Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for ...


Islam's definition for infidel is what else? Mxm stop saying these things. Funny it's not the Christians that fight you now, e go clear from una eye finally, the world is tired of you muslims.

I hope you av come across Exodus 22 vs 20 in the bible?

AishyWemsy:
What are they questions Qualer, I have answered every question asked here, if u are not blindfolded with ur ready made hatred. Read between the lines. Like I said America is not your Land, far from. And Qualer am not here to fight, watch it pls. You said u studied Quran, did u study ur bible too? Sincerely? If I respond the way people are dishing it, it won't be nice. I fully understand sharia law and it's importance to curb vices. U called me a moderate Muslim, may be u are an extreme christian then. I heard a news few days back that a court in Ondo state sentenced 3 people to 2 years Imprisonment because they stole a she-goat. It sounded so unfair and brutal, but they expect others to learn from it. These are ordinary. worldly justice. Islam preaches peace. Terrorists are not Muslims. This is what we are saying

FIVE AWKWARD QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAM

There are a number of awkward questions about Islam that desperately need to be asked and more importantly answered and here I'm going to ask just five of them.

1. Many Muslims claim to be opposed to the barbaric acts of terror committed by jihadists in the name of Islam. Additionally, liberals and leftists will assert that most Muslims are opposed to Islamic State. However, there's a glaring contradiction, an elephant in the room these apologists are desperate to avoid.

In Islam Muhammad is regarded as "the ideal man, the perfect model of conduct." This prophet and his army of devout Muslims waged jihad against infidels and he personally spread Islam by the sword. He and his band of brigands did not distort, twist or misunderstand Islam as they waged war against Jewish tribes in the Middle East, beheading their enemies and raping their women. So let's ask our first uncomfortable question:

To those Muslims who say violence is against Islam: If ISIS truly is "nothing to do with Islam" then is Muhammad also unIslamic and do you condemn and reject his violent "perfect example"?
Liberals and leftists can make as many excuses for jihad as they like but the fact will remain: The mujahideen of ISIS are emulating the "perfect example" set by Muhammad described in the holy texts of Islam, the Sunnah and hadith, and are also obeying the numerous commands in the Quran to wage war on infidels until the world belongs solely to Allah.

How can Muslims who revere the "perfect example" of Muhammad, a warlord who beheaded people, who raped infidel women, who tortured people, who had an old woman torn apart and who claimed: "I have been made victorious by terror" possibly oppose violence in the name of Islam?

History shows Islam has a 1400-year history of non-stop violent jihad against unbelievers. Are we really to believe all of those Muslims who waged jihad over the centuries misunderstood and distorted peaceful Islam including the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, and his army of mujahideen?

2. The claim that Islamic State is unIslamic doesn't stand up to further scrutiny at all.
Duplicitous self-serving Western politicians who imported Islam into their nations and their lickspittle lackeys in the mainstream media go to great lengths to focus on ISIS as if they are the only Muslims committing violence in the name of Islam. Not so. In Saudi Arabia, beheadings are a legal punishment and bloggers who are critical of Islam are flogged. Rape victims are criminalized and also flogged. Poets are sentenced to death for blasphemy and apostasy. Unbelievers - the lowest of the low, literally filth in Islam - are forbidden to enter the holiest places in Islam, Mecca and Medina.

All of these harsh punishments are enshrined in the Islamic legal system the Sharia. ISIS implement Sharia in the same way as the Saudis.
This begs a second uncomfortable question:

Do the Saudis twist, distort and misunderstand Islam as Islamic State is accused of doing?
They're committing the same barbaric horrors as ISIS yet somehow, Saudi Arabia is regarded by the West as an ally and even has a seat on the United Nations Human Rights Council. But nobody is accusing Saudi Arabia of distorting and perverting Islam. Probably because if they did they'd be regarded as unhinged.

3. Another narrative deployed to excuse terrorism committed by Muslims in the name of Islam is that violent jihad is a response to acts committed by the West. Acts such as the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and now, bombing ISIS in Syria.
In fact, violent jihad against infidels began in 622 when Muhammad the prophet of Islam started it. Since then, Muslims have continued to spread Islam by the sword. India has faced jihad since 638 and over 80 million Hindus have been killed. Muslims invaded Africa in the seventh century and began raping, killing and enslaving infidel Africans. These savage atrocities are still continuing today, committed by devout jihadists of Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Jihad came to Europe in 710 and Muslim armies conquered Andalucía in 711. It took 800 years of fighting to free Spain from Islamic hegemony.(part of the crusades every muslim keeps referring to without finding out the cause)

Muslims brought violent jihad to Christian Anatolia in 650 and conquered it into Dar al Islam, with the sack of Constantinople in 1453 being particularly brutal. Eastern European countries were also hit by Islamic jihad with Serbia still facing it today having been forced by NATO to surrender its sacred ground of Kosovo to Muslims. The Islamic terror group the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) committed the same barbaric acts as ISIS yet Britain, The United States and The European Union all backed the jihadists, with catastrophic consequences. Buddhists have been ethnically cleansed from Afghanistan and are fighting against the jihad in Myanmar. Thailand is blighted by jihad as is Israel. Jews have been hit by jihad from 622 to today. The Zoroastrians have almost been wiped out in Iran and Christians are relentlessly persecuted in the Middle East. Thanks to mass immigration from Islamic states, devout Muslim mujahideen are raping and slaughtering infidels in European and North American cities.

It's odd that a "religion of peace" has such a long, bloody history of warfare against unbelievers from so many faiths. And just why, exactly, are Muslims still slaughtering infidels today as Muhammad and his men did in 622, brutal acts emulated by devout Muslims throughout Islam's history?

Let's have our third uncomfortable question:
If the attacks on USA, France, Britain, Spain, Mali, Nigeria are in return for actions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria what are the excuses for the jihad that began in the Middle East in 622, jihad against India started in 638, the conquest of Spain, the jihad that transformed Christian Anatolia into Islamic Turkey, the jihad against Serbia started in 1389 and the genocide of an estimated two million Armenians committed by the Turks between 1915 and 1923?

Let's be honest here. None of these acts of jihad had anything to do with the acts of the West and nor do the acts of the West have anything to do with the jihad being waged today. Jihad has everything to do with Islam, just as it always has.

4. After devout Muslims had slaughtered Charlie Hebdo cartoonists and Jewish shoppers in the Paris attacks of January 2015, millions of Muslims around the world took to the streets in protest. Not against the murders of innocent people but against the West's response to it, in particular, the "Je Suis Charlie" defence of free speech and particularly the right to criticize and mock all ideologies including Islam.
This outraged millions of Muslims around the Islamic world just as the infamous cartoons mocking Muhammad published in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten in October 2005 did. Indeed, this video of the London protest was the "road to Damascus" moment for your humble author who was once a liberal to his core. Back then I strongly believed all religions were the same but watching that disturbing video shook me out of my slumber.

This leads to our fourth uncomfortable question:
Why don't millions of outraged Muslims ever take to the streets to protest against acts of violent jihad and the slaughter of innocent infidels?
I mean, if the vast majority of Muslims are opposed to violence committed by mujahideen in the name of Islam where the heck are the millions of outraged Muslims protesting against ISIS as they did against cartoons of the murdering, raping, terrorist Muhammad and the Charlie Hebdo defence of the right to free speech?

5. Finally, let me ask:
Why is it only Muslims commit terror attacks on civilians in reprisals for offending Islam or for attacks on Islamic states?
Are they the only people who have grievances? Where are terrorist attacks committed by Christians in response to persecution across Africa and the Middle East? Where are the revenge attacks from British, Swedish, Germans and Norwegians for the gang-rapes of their women and girls by Muslim males? Where are the Buddhists blowing up Muslim civilians in response to the jihad waged against them? Same applies to Hindus and Sikhs. And what about angry Serbs shooting up restaurants in London or Berlin in response to the criminal bombing of their country by NATO? Where are Greek-Cypriot terrorists slaughtering Turkish citizens because of Turkey's illegal occupation of Cyprus? They never happen. So why is it only Muslims committing these atrocities year in, year out, month in, month out on every continent?

That's five awkward questions about the 'religion of peace'. I challenge anyone on the Left, any Muslim, any liberal defender of multiculturalism to answer them. Without resorting to abuse, name calling, insults or violence.

Christopher J. Green

HaneefahRN:
Blah blah blah. And wherever did u see me support terrorism? Many Muslims do not support ISIS or ISIL, Al-qaeda or whatever.
See, mister, I don't care what u think, I don't care if u or anyone gets mad cos of what I say, it's no problem of mine. I won't bother arguing wt u, continue believing what u will. I know my religion and that is all that matters

you obviously do not know anything, if you did you will realise that islam is not a religion - it is a political ideology used to control the conquered and slaves. Have you ever asked your self why the sharia law is so unforgiving and ruthless?

dorox:
So by your admission, it is ok to be a nation of bigots provided it is an islamic nation. I guess Trump is trying to turn America into a Theocratic regime like Saudi Arabia , so why are you complaining?

Lolz, u just made ur own submission. Pls, did u see me complaining? The only thing I had done then was to laugh at the Muslim haters that suddenly made Donald Trump their hero. And the only comment I made was him being both a racist and bigot, wc is a wonderful combination for an hero by the way. And like I once said, Saudi ain't no goody two shoes, they also av theirs up their sleeves, it still doesn't stop it from being a Muslim nation guided by sharia. Only US was never a Christian nation, unless u want to own up to all the atrocities they av committed from inception till date on Christian faith, then yes, they were indeed Christianly. I repeat Christians wld want a Christian state, even the tolerant Christians back when US had declared a freedom of religion then were against it. But becos no Christian nations had been fully able to av a strong hold on their nations, they say it's cos they are tolerant and Muslims are not, go back in history and tell me how tolerant Christians really were. And don't tell me the founding fathers of America were all Christains, no, even then they had free thinkers.
Saudi allows non-muslims in o, they don't o, not my headache. US stops Muslims from entering and 'go back to being a Christian Country o', not my head ache. So u can make whatever deductions or submissions u want and deal with it, bro.

Qualer:
you obviously do not know anything, if you did you will realise that islam is not a religion - it is a political ideology used to control the conquered and slaves. Have you ever asked your self why the sharia law is so unforgiving and ruthless?

Oh, Mr I av all the knowledge about Islam. Of course, I no nothing abt it. Islam has both religious and political roots, open secret, many religions av political roots. The shariah is based on the Quran and hadiths of the Prophet -wc must be well researched to ensure their authenticity. It has done well to shape their Society, in Saudi, using stealing as a case study, traders do not bother to close up their shops when going for prayer or going out somtimes, shops where gold and expensive things are displayed, becos they are almost assured no-one wld steal,that's the lvl of trust they av in themselves many of the social vices are'nt common like in secular Countries. Even at that the thing stolen must av enof value to warrant a penalty, not like someone stole maggi and they cut off his hand, proper investigations must be done. I believe b4 any severe penalty can be carried out, some standards must av been used to gauge it, if the person is wanting or not. And the situation of the state must be taken into consideration, for example during the time of Umar (RA), there was a famine and several cases of stealing were overlooked becos they were brought abt by the poor situation. Even the fear of having one's hands cut is enof to make a thief think twice. But here thieves are ruling, even rape and ask pple to rape themselves.

HaneefahRN:
I'm very sorry, bro. I wanted him to see what u wrote.
I went through a forum comprising white men and they were discussing the issue of terrorism, the demonizing of Islam, the media propagandas, the popular saying that all terrorists are Muslims, etc and I was wowed. Some of these pple av never met real Muslims but the only thing they see abt Islam is the terrorism the media always attributes to it, but not minding that, these pple mostly free-thinkers and some Christians, overlooked prejudice and stereotyping and made their research into this issue. Some of them had met with many Muslims while travelling round the World, from the middle east to other Countries and were said to av been treated well, by the Muslims everyone paints black and are demonizing, this told them something was wrong somewhere. Although some still av their fears wc is normal, for this situation.
They came up with submissions that terrorism is a menace every sane human shld come together to fight against- gaps shld be bridged rather than fueling and propagating hatred against a particular set of pple - psychos wld always look for a means to justify their actions and many religions av been prey to this, blive it or not their are Christian terrorist grps, but it's more of a secret affair rather than the over-joy the media gets when it comes to Muslims- terrorism is being politicized- there is more to terrorism than mere religion, these pple av their agendas other than religion, etc.
But what do we see here, amidst pple who live with Muslims who even claim to av Muslims as friends? Ignorance- filled hatred.
I'av stopped caring though

Examples of Christian terror groups? The words of Christ they use to justify their actions? Which Christian nations supporting and financing them? Their goals? How many people they have killed this years alone? Etc. Or, you are just trying to lie against Jesus followers. Thanks

AishyWemsy:
Jazakumllah khaeran sister. May Allah increase u in knowledge, u r so great, I was the only one here but u joined annd brought more facts. They are turning the thread into what I don't like, there suppose not to be hauling of abusive or insulting words. Points have been made. May Allah forgive us all.

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Say: Oh you who turn away
I do not worship what you worship,
nor do you worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship,
Nor will you worship what I worship.
Your way is yours, and my way is mine another (Quran 109)

another Quranic chapter that allow peaceful reign of any religion that could ever be. Peace out

Aamin wa anta fajazakallahu khairan.Barakallahu fihi.

Ovacoma:
Examples of Christian terror groups? The words of Christ they use to justify their actions? Which Christian nations supporting and financing them? Their goals? How many people they have killed this years alone? Etc. Or, you are just trying to lie against Jesus followers. Thanks

Lolz, Lord resistance army, Tripura, Central African republic, Bruce Hoffman, Eric Rudolph to name a few all used Christianity to back their acts of terrorism.
As regards ur other questions, I won't do ur researches for u, go and do ur own findings.