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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Aegon(m): 12:05pm On Dec 13, 2015

IbnSultaan:
how you de

From you explanation the Nigerian Army started with 18 Northerners? Are you for real? I find it impossible to accept that in 1863 when Lagos was an established trade port Glover had to rely on 18 Northmen to protect trade routes in the South. According to you they grew to form the Hausa Constabulary. So for a whooping 97 years the armed forces in Nigeria were the "Hausa Constabulary"? The WAFF you spoke of, were they made up of "Hausa Constabulary" and the Ghanaians? I'm sure no one from Southern Nigeria as you seem to be silent on their evolution.

As for Lugard and his romance with the Sokoto Caliphate, I have no issues with that. I must respect those horsemen and their valour. But don't lie to us that the first indigenous armed forces in Nigeria were 18 Northmen.

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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by bugzbunny: 12:06pm On Dec 13, 2015

vedaxcool:
Where hate don't work they start telling lies. Allah is used by Christians in the arab world and Malaysia. Outside that Muslims freely refer to God in their native tongue where you got your lies from beats me .

Please niccur Jesus has never meant God in any language. In Jesus time there were many people bearing Jesus as a name. Further more xtian do not regard the word Jesus to mean god but the person Jesus to be god. The fact that you cannot fanthom this basic common sense shows you are vastly ignorant of the subject matter of etymology of the words used to refer to God.

There is NO xtian on earth that calls God allah

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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:11pm On Dec 13, 2015

bugzbunny:
You are the ignorant one
Allah is God in arabic
Allah is god in islam only

Jesus... Ogene... Eledumare.. Chineke aint Allah
Keep dat in ur skull

Give some little space for knowledge. You are too shallow, dense and blindfolded with tribalism.

If Allah is only meant for Islam, why do Christians in Arabic speaking countries pray in their church to Allah?

Why is Arabic translated bible having the word Allah in place of God?

Allah simply mean God in Arabic.

Eledumare is a name and not just title like Olorun (God).

Eledumare is something like Jehovah which is the actual name of Jewish God. God is not Yahweh, just like Lord is different from Jesus. One is name and other is title.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by ItsMeAboki(m): 12:13pm On Dec 13, 2015

bugzbunny:
It means

Victory is only from Allah...

Are we a muslim country?
Are muslims the only ones in the army?
Is Arabic our lingua franca?
Hw many southeners can read arabic?

I dnt blame the north
Am not far frm d truth if I say it seems like they own the country
I only blame the gullible south especially SW

It seems your brain is totally clogged with bigotry and devoid of rational thought.
For goodness sake when will you and your ilk understand that Arabic is simply a language like any other, including your own. Do you know that there are many Arab Christians and followers of other religions living and practicing their faith throughout Arabia?
I bet with your kind of stupid mindset, you'd be among those likely to immediately reject a copy of an Arabic translated Bible without a second thought simply because to you, it automatically has to represent Islam.
Go get educated and free your yourself from mental imprisonment of hate and bigotry.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by meforyou1(m): 12:16pm On Dec 13, 2015

porshuch:
what does cross symbolize?

The Red Cross logo was designed by Henri Dunant in 1863.

The emblem of a red cross with arms of equal length on a white background is the visible sign of protection under the 1949 Geneva Conventions. As such, it is the emblem of the armed forces’ medical services.

In order to avoid “semantic noise,” the International Red Cross uses the Red Crescent name and trademark in some Arab World countries that have a predominantly Muslim population.

The Red Cross emblem is an inversion of the Swiss flag (the flag is a white cross on a red background). This recognises the historic connection between Switzerland and the original Geneva Convention of 1864.

But while the emblem has no intentional religious meaning, the symbol reminded soldiers from the Ottoman Empire (modern-day Turkey) of the crusaders of the Middle Ages, and so in 1876 they began using a Red Crescent instead.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:19pm On Dec 13, 2015

bugzbunny:
There is NO xtian on earth that calls God allah

Arab Christians call God Allah.

Scholars agree that Allah is the Arabic cognate of the Biblical Aramaic elah and Hebrew eloah, which is the singular of elohim, a generic word for God used throughout the Old Testament. Jesus on the cross said Ela Ela, relative to Arabic word Allah.

Allah = Al (The) + Ilah (God).

La ilala ila lau meaning there is no other god apart from God. This justifies that the word for god in Arabic is Ilah while the Almighty God is Allah.

Ilah in Ela was mentioned by Jesus.

Beat that Ode!

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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by meforyou1(m): 12:21pm On Dec 13, 2015

bugzbunny:
There is NO xtian on earth that calls God allah

no Christain call God Allah at all. Hausa Muslims say allah but Hausa Christains say "Ubangiji", which is the Hausa word for God

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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by meforyou1(m): 12:24pm On Dec 13, 2015

FOLYKAZE:
Arab Christians call God Allah.

Scholars agree that Allah is the Arabic cognate of the Biblical Aramaic elah and Hebrew eloah, which is the singular of elohim, a generic word for God used throughout the Old Testament. Jesus on the cross said Ela Ela, relative to Arabic word Allah.

Allah = Al (The) + Ilah (God).

La ilala ila lau meaning there is no other god apart from God. This justifies that the word for god in Arabic is Ilah while the Almighty God is Allah.

Ilah in Ela was mentioned by Jesus.

Beat that Ode!

you can brainwash almajiris but don't try that joke here. No Christain calls God Allah. And no Muslim call Allah God. Hausa Christains call God Ubangiji.

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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:44pm On Dec 13, 2015

meforyou1:
you can brainwash almajiris but don't try that joke here. No Christain calls God Allah. And no Muslim call Allah God. Hausa Christains call God Ubangiji.

I always knew you are deranged.

Ubangiji is a Hausaw word for God just like Ogene is to Urhobo and Olorun is to Yoruba. Ubangiji is not Arabic word so I cant fathom how you expect Hausa speaking christians to use Allah which is Arabic in place of Ubangiji of their tongue.

Yoruba christians use Olorun for God. This is so and very much expected becasue they are speaking Yoruba tongue and not Arabic.

Arab Christians use Allah for God. Before Islam existed, the name Allah was used by Arab Christians and Jews to refer to the one true God.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/allah.html

Read the pieces above so that you can cure yourself this disease called ignorance and illusion of knowledge.

Arabic Bible uses the Allah for God, you can aswell go and change that

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Nobody: 1:13pm On Dec 13, 2015

Some ppl need help

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by ItsMeAboki(m): 1:51pm On Dec 13, 2015

meforyou1:
you can brainwash almajiris but don't try that joke here. No Christain calls God Allah. And no Muslim call Allah God. [b]Hausa Christains call God Ubangij[/b]i.

Big lie, where did you get that notion from?
They use Allah as their no.1 choice of reference for God and in lesser frequencies other alternative names, just as any other Hausa speaker irrespective of his religion.

Stop spreading lies.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Nobody: 2:17pm On Dec 13, 2015

SMH

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 13, 2015

Aegon:
From you explanation the Nigerian Army started with 18 Northerners? Are you for real? I find it impossible to accept that in 1863 when Lagos was an established trade port Glover had to rely on 18 Northmen to protect trade routes in the South. According to you they grew to form the Hausa Constabulary. So for a whooping 97 years the armed forces in Nigeria were the "Hausa Constabulary"? The WAFF you spoke of, were they made up of "Hausa Constabulary" and the Ghanaians? I'm sure no one from Southern Nigeria as you seem to be silent on their evolution.

As for Lugard and his romance with the Sokoto Caliphate, I have no issues with that. I must respect those horsemen and their valour. But don't lie to us that the first indigenous armed forces in Nigeria were 18 Northmen.

u can't change history

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 2:56pm On Dec 13, 2015

FOLYKAZE:
Arab Christians call God Allah.

Scholars agree that Allah is the Arabic cognate of the Biblical Aramaic elah and Hebrew eloah, which is the singular of elohim, a generic word for God used throughout the Old Testament. Jesus on the cross said Ela Ela, relative to Arabic word Allah.

Allah = Al (The) + Ilah (God).

La ilala ila lau meaning there is no other god apart from God. This justifies that the word for god in Arabic is Ilah while the Almighty God is Allah.

Ilah in Ela was mentioned by Jesus.

Beat that Ode!

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/375/media/images/70458000/jpg/_70458521_019638016-1.jpg

A Malaysian court has ruled that non-Muslims cannot use the word Allah to refer to God, even in their own faiths, overturning a 2009 lower court ruling.

The appeals court said the term Allah must be exclusive to Islam or it could cause public disorder.

People of all faiths use the word Allah in Malay to refer to their Gods.

Christians argue they have used the word, which entered Malay from Arabic, to refer to their God for centuries and that the ruling violates their rights.

One Malaysian Christian woman said the ruling would affect the community greatly.
"If we are prohibited from using the word Allah then we have to re-translate the whole Bible, if it comes to that," Ester Moiji from Sabah state told the BBC.

'Disappointed and dismayed'

The 2009 ruling sparked tensions, with churches and mosques attacked.
It came after the government said that a Catholic newspaper, The Herald, could not use the word in its Malay-language edition to describe the Christian God.

The newspaper sued, and a court ruled in their favour in December 2009. The government then launched an appeal.

Upholding the appeal on Monday, chief judge Mohamed Apandi Ali said: "The usage of the word Allah is not an integral part of the faith in Christianity. The usage of the word will cause confusion in the community."
The Herald editor Reverend Lawrence Andrew said he was "disappointed and dismayed", and would appeal against the decision.

"It is a retrograde step in the development of law in relation to the fundamental liberty of religious minorities," he said.

The newspaper's supporters have argued that Malay-language Bibles have used Allah to refer to the Christian God since before Malaysia was formed as a federal state in 1963.

"Allah is a term in the Middle East and in Indonesia it is a term both for Christians and Muslims. You cannot say that in all of the sudden it is not an integral part. Malay language is a language that has many borrowed words, Allah also is a borrowed word."

However, some Muslim groups have said that the Christian use of the word Allah could be used to encourage Muslims to convert to Christianity.

"Allah is not a Malay word. If they [non-Muslims] say they want to use a Malay word they should use Tuhan instead of Allah," Zainul Rijal Abu Bakar, a lawyer representing the government, told the BBC.

Dozens of churches and a few Muslim prayer halls were attacked and burned in the wake of the 2009 ruling, highlighting the intensity of feeling about issues of ethnicity and faith in Malaysia.

Some Malaysians believe the governing Malay-Muslim party is using the case to boost its Islamic credentials among voters, the BBC's Jennifer Pak reports from outside the court in Putrajaya.

Malay Muslims make up almost two-thirds of the country's population, but there are large Hindu and Christian communities.
Prime Minister Najib Razak's coalition won elections in May, but it was the coalition's worst result in more than half a century in power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24516181

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Nobody: 4:13pm On Dec 13, 2015

IsraeliAIRFORCE u need divine help

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 4:31pm On Dec 13, 2015

IbnSultaan:
IsraeliAIRFORCE
u need divine help

Actually I need divine help but the rational behind your statement is not right.

I just brought to peoples notice that the debate on Allah being the same as monotheic God is still on or subsisting. I have no submission hence believe that the two sides are right depending on each perception.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Reptyle(m): 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2015

IbnSultaan:
BRIEF HISTORY OF NIGERIA ARMY PRE INDEPENDENCE
NA started in 1863 when the Imperial Governor of
Lagos, Lt Glover of the Royal Navy gathered 18 Northern
Nigerians to mount punitive expeditions to protect Britishtrade routes around Lagos. This small force metamorphosed
into the Hausa Constabulary and later formed part of the West African Frontier Force (WAFF).
The visit of Queen Elizabeth II to Nigerian in a 1956 led to the renaming of the Northern and
Southern Regiments to the Queen’s Own Nigerian Regiment
(QONR). When later in that same year, Britain granted military autonomy to her dependencies,
the QONR was re-designated the Nigerian Military Force (NMF),and at independence in 1960, the
name changed to the Royal Nigerian Army. The present
designation, Nigerian Army (NA),
came into use when Nigeria assumed a Republic status in 1963.

HISTORY AND MEANING OF ARMY MOTTO

The adoption of the motto
of the Sokoto Caliphate, as that of the Nigerian Army,
was made by the British - before Nigerian
Independence,
One of the reasons was that the fall of Sokoto in 1903
- and death of Sultan Attahiru - was (and in some
circles, still is) inaccurately regarded by western
historians as the last formal battle in the fall of what
became "Nigeria". The highly symbolic Flag of the
Caliphate was captured by the British, recaptured by
gallant Sokoto Horsemen and recaptured again by the
British. It was kept for many years as a British trophy
in one of the officers' messes in Kaduna but returned
in a formal ceremony just prior to Nigerian
Independence. The myth was spun and sustained by
British Tradition.
However, "Nigeria" did not really fall in 1903. The Tiv
of the middle belt of "Northern Nigeria", for example,
were not militarily or otherwise pacified for at least
another ten (10) years. Many pockets of resistance
remained in present day "Southern Nigeria" - including
Ekumeku and many others. Abeokuta lost its
independence in 1914.
Nevertheless, the symbolism of the events of 1903
became etched into official memory, as shaped by
Dealtry Lugard, which is why the Northern Nigeria
regiment and later the combined Nigeria regiment
(when Lugard supervised the wedding of Northern and
Southern Nigeria in 1914) adopted the Sokoto motto.
Many indigenous pre-colonial Nigerian armies and
nationalities resisted British rule. They all presumably
had their own mottos, but Sir Lugard was preoccupied
with his personal legacy as embodied by the
subjugation of the Sokoto Caliphate and stabilization of
the Anglo-French colonial frontier in the north. It is
not the making of modern day "Northern Nigeria" or
"Northern leaders" or "Leaders of Northern origin" or
"Hausa-Fulani oligarchy or cabal" - as various writers
suggest, that the motto of the Nigerian Army is that of
the pre-colonial Sokoto Caliphate.

NASRUNMINALLAH
Which means victory is from God alone

Very insightful research and expose.

I have always wondered what the Arabic inscription meant.

I read, write and speak hausa fluently but not Arabic.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Nobody: 5:05pm On Dec 13, 2015

Reptyle:
Very insightful research and expose.
I have always wondered what the Arabic inscription meant.
I read, write and speak hausa fluently but not Arabic.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by GorkoSusaay: 5:13pm On Dec 13, 2015

meforyou1:
boko, it is victory is from allah. Say the truth for once. Make Friday to Sunday weekends, no problem. But is the medical Red Cross in hospitals, which you people change to crescents denote Christianity? No

Allah means God in English, Yahweh in Hebrew, Geno in Fulani, Chukwu in Igbo....etc.

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by GorkoSusaay: 5:15pm On Dec 13, 2015

bugzbunny:
There is NO xtian on earth that calls God allah

You are wrong. Christian Arabs (yes they exist) use the arabic word Allah to mean God, as do Muslim Arabs.

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Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by coolitempa(f): 9:48pm On Dec 13, 2015

GorkoSusaay:
You are wrong. Christian Arabs (yes they exist) use the arabic word Allah to mean God, as do Muslim Arabs.

Yes they exist but in increasing smaller numbers as their Muslim neighbours gradually decimate their population in greater ever greater numbers.... angry

Re: History And Meaning Of Nigeria Army Motto by Nobody: 8:12am On Jun 22, 2017

porshuch:
northern christians call God Allah.

Their loss.
I hear them call God Ubangiji. Sounds more natural, less threatening, but who knows

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/24/world/asia/malaysia-allah-ban/index.html
Read what they are saying in Malaysia.

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