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| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 10:40pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
PRINCESSO2:Nice |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 8:43am On Nov 29, 2015 |
I remember when i newly gave my life to christ at the tender age of 13...i guess i was form 2 way back now called jss2 or so...then if i mistakenly abuse anyone you will her my friends say stuffa like "ah see this one that is calling himself born again abusing someone" and i will feel so ashamed and would almost want to give up the born again thing. The simple fact is that many people in hell today have no business there but they are victims of their own decision. Yes you can give your life to christ and afterwards still see yourself commit crazy sins over and over and over again AND THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN....and each time you fall into sin, you must ask GOD to forgive you But when you start enjoying those sins and you see yourself craving for it or looking forward to it then you have crossed the delicate line. The truth is that the grace of GOD is not for us to enjoy sins or to sin with impunity but the grace is there for us to live above sins,to put away any consciousness of sins and understand that by faith in christ we are justified and not by the sins we commit ore the righteousness of our deeds. After you give your life to christ,all you need to do is ask the holy spirit to come into your life to perfect your salvation and you will eb amazed that those sins you think are to strong for you to overcome will be so weak to dominate you...remember ONLY BY THE SPIRIT and not by our power or works can we live a redeemed life. Hope this makes sense. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by estelle6763: 10:23pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
I totally undersand this! It is very true and necessary. All the comments here are just saying stuff that are irrelevant because they have made it seem like you are encouraging sin when they do not understand. They are saying it like once you are born again, you will never sin. How possible.. Sike! Yes as a born again, sin has no power over you, but you are in this world filled with sin, that is why we have Jesus to help us overcome, and also lift us when we fall. I also gave my life to Christ when I was much younger, I dont remember the age and when but I know I did, and then whenever I sinned and I remembered every time, I would say God forgive me , God forgive me, me and my friends then thought it was a great idea, which is not how salvation works. I was saved but I was brought up with the common Nigerian teachings of RELIGION. SALVATION BY WORKS, which is 100% OPPOSITE. I would repeatedly go for the alter call, just like you said and many others especially IN NIGERIA(yes because of the RELIGIOUS mentality) have done. Not until I was about 14 or so, then I started to truly understand that, once I am saved, I am saved, and cannot lose my salvation, even though I sin when I dont want to, it's inevitable, and even sometimes consciously, the only thing I have to do is ask for forgiveness through Christ, continue to repent and it is finished. MANY CHRISTIANS do not know this, they think they lose their salvation when they fall, go back again for alter call, or lose hope and then finally faith. Infact to be honest, that mentality still tries to affect me when I fall but I know that it's the devil so I rebuke Him and also ask God to forgive me for underestimating the power of the blood of JESUS. I pray that others who read this that you have shared understand it and that it gives them a revelation. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by estelle6763: 10:34pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Shalomdee:saying the same thing. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 11:11am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Pointing lalasticlala and ishilove to this. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by elderstan(m): 11:20am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008: |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Nobody: 11:22am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:OP, are people in hell already? |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Nobody: 11:28am On Dec 27, 2015 |
OK |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Babprosper20(m): 11:29am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Shalomdee:sister read the conclusion again |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by cold(m): 11:36am On Dec 27, 2015*. Modified: 2:23pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
What i find disconcerting with the Christian faith is this sense of self entitlement. Anyone who doesn't believe in Yahweh or his son Jesus Christ will end up in the lake of fire popularly referred to as hell. Taking into cognisance that there are only about a billion Christians worldwide out of a world population of 7 billion and counting. Out of the billion Christians three quarters will not make it too heaven but that is besides the point. Assuming every Christian makes it to heaven that still leaves at least between 5.5 billion to 6 billion people to be condemned to eternal damnation simply because they did not believe in the Jewish god nor his son but had their own gods or no god at all. To think this is even a remote possibility has to be the most flawed and warped logic ever. Any god contemplating such an idea is simply sick and twisted. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Adaowerri111: 11:37am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:I think this is better than the previous, more insightful. a lot to pick from this |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by joelreg(m): 11:41am On Dec 27, 2015 |
G Scholar8200:Don't think you ever read op final submission. Your type gave match result at d first half never bother to watch till 90 mins nor extra time |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Nobody: 11:43am On Dec 27, 2015 |
kepstone:u have sinned .... |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 11:44am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:Insightful |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by kaziblake(f): 11:46am On Dec 27, 2015 |
I was in the dream and rapture took place,everybody was looking for their love ones and behold the righteous were taken. I was really sacred when I woke up,i know am no perfect but God I want you to order my step in your word,never let me go astray(amen). End time is really near |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by AreaFada2: 11:47am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:You tried. Except that nobody is burning in hell or flexing in heaven now. Even Enoch, Elijah & Moses who did not "die" like others but taken up, are NOT in heaven. Jesus said as much in John 3:13. Judgement day has not come. I don't know where people got this misconception from. After death, you wait for judgement. When Jesus comes again. Please read your Bible carefully. Let the Holy Spirit guide you. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 11:49am On Dec 27, 2015 |
AreaFada2:Wan tun ti de o...J witnesses...Please i was just about going out..i think the next neighbor is around. ![]() |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 11:55am On Dec 27, 2015 |
[b]Yes believers can end up in the deepest part of hell if they voluntarily give up their salvation through self condemnation simply because some pastors preach heresy that until we are 100% perfect in our of ways of life towards GOD's words,we will never make heaven. When i gave my life to Christ in 1988, as a young lad,i always believed that once you are saved you will never sin again and infact if you commit any sin then it means you are no longer born again and each time i sin i see myself as a failure and even people around me were like watch dogs and they will quickly use words like "see o,see the person that calls himself born again doing this or that" And when they call for alter call in any gathering i attend, i will come out again because once i fall into sin, i consider myself out of the faith. I have had friends WHO VOLUNTARILY GAVE UP THEIR SALVATION because they saw themselves taking up the same habits they were suppose to do away with after they gave their life to christ. This awesome holy ghost inspired write up is to let every struggling believer out there know that it is not their duty to overcome sins but that of the holy spirit. Its to let every believer struggling with any form of sinful act that you may give your life to christ today but the act of perfection is the duty of the holy spirit with your cooperation and if you let the holy spirit do his work, these sinful acts you think you can't do away with will be a thing of the past. This write up is to let believers understand that GOD will never forsake them no matter how many times they fall into sins but they must never enjoy sinful acts or look forward to sinning but nevertheless,in the process of trying to get better and better,they must never ever give up their salvation due to repetitive sins. This is the essence of the write up and is not aimed at promoting reckless acts of taking GOD's grace for granted.[/b] This is Awesome and i can't stop reading this again and again. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Nobody: 11:57am On Dec 27, 2015 |
AreaFada2:I was kinda disturbed about that point in his message and I quoted him. He's yet to reply. There are conflicting arguments on this BUT I don't also believe people are in hell at the moment. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by AreaFada2: 11:57am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:Hahahaha! Anyway, I was just going to add that Luke 16:22-31 that is often quoted as evidence appears only figurative. Like the Good Samaritan story. I'm no JW by the way. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Nobody: 11:58am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:Don't bother about him , the only bible verse he likes is the one that takes about offerings |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Okanyidudu: 12:02pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
kepstone:You have only succeeded in arriving at the same conclusion as the OP. If you had taken your time to read with an open mind, I am certain you would have punched the LIKE BUTTON for him |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by gentlelarry(m): 12:07pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Scholar8200:God bless u. Perfectly said. Ephesians 5:28 check again sire. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 12:07pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
AreaFada2:Hell and lake of fire are two different places. People who dies as unbelievers are in hell right now while those who dies as believers are enjoying in heaven as i write... But in the last judgment, hell will be thrown into the lake of fire which is the final place for unbelievers. "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death"Revelation 20:14 This is a clarion call to everyone reading this..I don't care how hot and sexy you may be as a lady, i don't care how classy and rich you may be. No matter how highly placed you are or how powerful you may be..As long as you came to this world..you must leave someday and you must chose one of these places...HEAVEN or HELL. Now is the chance you have to choose...no one guarantees that you wil see tomorrow and the best insurance you can give yourself is to secure your soul by accepting Jesus as lord and Saviour. What shall it profit you to have all the money you desire,the golds and diamonds of this world and to lose the most important thing to you..YOUR SOUL.. Be wise and don't ever be caught dead without accepting Jesus as lord and Saviour.PLEASE DON'T |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 12:11pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
kepstone:Oga pastor do you ever take time out to read? ALL YOU JUST WROTE PERFECTLY CORROBORATED MY WRITE UP yet you went round and round in circles just to arrive at the same conclusion. This is why i make it a duty to back everything i write with scriptures. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by sholaypompon(m): 12:12pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:Am not a pastor nor a Christian,,, but I must to say your writeup is a great instrument to waking up the sinners to their needs,,, I agree with you bro... Nice one |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Warldbest(m): 12:18pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:May God forgive u on this ur deceiving write up. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 12:21pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
sholaypompon:Thanks bro.. If only we can see the milions of souls perishing in hell day by day we wil understand the relevance of this write up. I can never forget how many friends have said clearly that they can't make heaven or they cant be born again..WHY? Because they see themselves doing those things they never wanted to do and they automatically believe they are unworthy for heaven and once the devil gets a hold of this weakness,he possesses them with a multiple number of demons and they get even more reckless than they use to be. Many pastors have driven many innocent souls to hell with their wicked doctrine of 1005 holiness even by works and not by faith..many churches will clamp down on brother who commits a sin and will drive him out like a goat thereby pushing him more into the devil's hands..uhh This is a clarion call for every one reading this who have at a time given his or life to christ and have wondered away to PLEASE COME BACK TO CHRIST and ask the holy spirit to help them overcome those sins... You will be surprised that the sinful addiction you think you can never do away with will never be remembered by you when the holy spirit work on you. Just invite teh holy spirit and give him the chance and he will perfect your salvation. Let us read this passage in the bible according to Paul: "I don't really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don't do it. Instead, I do what I hate.And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me,Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." (Romans 7 and ![]() |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by AreaFada2: 12:22pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:I have discussed these stuff extensively with a late eminent eschatologist. In fact an Oxford University educated pastor & professor of Systematic Theology. An eminent professor/Chief Rabbi (leader of Jewish clerics), among others. There is no evidence that the Book of Revelation is literally as it is. It is full of massive symbolism. Of course I am aware a lot us 9ja people see things through a narrow prism. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Toks2008(op): 12:23pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Warldbest:Please can you just correct us at least to save the souls of those people im working so hard to deceive? |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 12:23pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Toks2008:A lot of people will miss the kingdom of God because of this kind of fake gospel. Mt. 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in [Or into] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mt. 28:20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Mt. 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practises and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. |
| Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by delzbaba(m): 12:26pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
This is why I don't come on Nairaland on Sundays,,confusion everywhere.. |
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