Vinstel:
I don't even waste my time arguing with atheists. I tell them the truth and leave them to do whatever they will with it.

Butterflyleo:
As I chat with atheists here on nairaland I tend to also study them and their styles of argument which unknown to them, projects their mental states through their writing and I have come to discover a few rather shocking things as I studied them.

Butterflyleo:
As I chat with atheists here on nairaland I tend to also study them and their styles of argument which unknown to them, projects their mental states through their writing and I have come to discover a few rather shocking things as I studied them.

I will begin this OP with a quote by Robert Reich the former U.S labour secretary under former President Bill Clinton when he said and I quote

"God is worse than terrorism"! He argued that followers of God pose a more significant threat to the 21st Century world than terrorists do and concluded by saying,

“ the great conflict of the modern world will not be between the West and terrorism but between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority; between those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma”.

These rather illogical choice of words are the lengths atheists resort to while trying to negate the existence of God to themselves FIRST and then by extension, to their readers. This process of self negation involves playing of many mental games that well and truly stretches their psychological defense mechanisms.

The three men, who made atheism popular in the 19th Century, had almost the same experiences early in their lives, and there is a common psychological pattern evident in their later lives of rebellion.

They are, Friedrich Nietzsche, Thomas Henry Huxley and Sigmund Freud. They all had very similar psychological challenges and issues in their lives. They all had cruel fathers who often exerted domineering tendencies on them, they all suffered very high levels of depression and chronic obsessive fears. They therefore made it their lifes goal to destroy God, who to them represented a symbol of their fathers.

Since the existence of God is a reality (Yes I said that it is a reality so it is not a typo and is not open to debate either), an atheists mind protects itself from this rather profound reality through rejection of God’s existence using several psychological defense mechanisms such as i have observed in basically all Nairaland atheists. These psychological defense mechanisms are,

1) Rationalization

2) Repression

3) Displacement

4) Suppression and denial

Rationalization is an atheist’s number one favourite psychological defense mechanism. They very much depend on false reasoning that sounds logical to negate to themselves, the reality of God. They will throw loads and loads of reasons at Christians as to why God does not exist, and make them sound as logical as possible.

I will quote from a book written by John Pasquini, titled, Atheist Personality Disorder and he said thus,

"Addressing a Distorted Mindset, points out that atheists are good at using pedantic language to convince themselves and others, as they fool themselves that they are intellectually superior, while in the real sense, they are mere rationalizers."

Displacement is another extremely popular coping mechanism that an atheist uses. They always shift their anger towards believers and belief systems. Have you ever wondered why the thing atheists are good at is attacking religion and believers? It’s simply a coping mechanism.

An over reliance on these defense mechanisms do often lead to emotional immaturity and disjointed thinking that ends up in personality disorders. There is more than enough proof that atheism is a personality disorder.

1) Atheists have among the highest suicide rates in the world. Atheist countries have a suicide rate of 32 percent for every 100,000 people as compared to 4 for every 100,000 people in religious countries.

2) They are the most aggressive bitter and unhappy group in the society and this is evident even here on nairaland as all you need to do is scan individual atheist comments in the religion section and you would see hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language all roled into one. It is common knowledge that our words are a projection of who we are.

3) Statistics have shown that they are less likely to get married twice as likely to get divorced and highly likely to have no children.

4) Statistics from atheistic regimes show that atheists are among the most intolerant groups in the world. The most popular atheistic nations are the former Soviet Union (Which is now a Christian Nation known as Russia), Vietnam and North Korea. According to John Pasquini, the Soviets destroyed more than 42,000 churches between 1917 and 1969, leaving the country with less than 6,000 churches. North Korea destroyed more than 500 Buddhist temples, while Vietnam destroyed more than 700. About 168 out of 270 suicide bombings that were carried out between 1980 and 2000 were not by Muslims but by Marxist atheists, including the bombing that killed President Ranasinge Premadasa of Sri Lanka in 1993 which was carried out by an atheist terrorist group known as Tamil Tigers (Yes again i said it and it was no typo. The Tamil Tigers are an atheist terrorist group). And it is clearly evident through their ideology as stated by wikipedia and i quote,

"Religion was not a major factor in their philosophy or ideology, the ideology of the Tamil Tigers emerged from Marxist-Leninist thought, and was explicitly secular. Its leadership professed opposition to religion".

As my fellow Christian, after you must have read all of the above, my strong counsel to you goes thus

"The very next time an atheist tries to engage you in an argument. LEAVE THEM ALONE!"

You don’t have to prove the existence of God to attention seeking psychotics who want to assert their intellectual superiority through faulty psychological coping mechanisms. You don’t have to prove that God exists. In fact you cannot be "arm twisted" to as atheists tend to attempt making you do through emotional blackmail. His existence is not debatable!

The moment you learn to ignore their demands they die just like when you starve a person of food, they die. This is the prescription on how to treat the mental disorder known as atheism.

Apply this very effective doses anywhere you see them gather and anytime you read their demands regarding proof for Gods existence from you regardless of the deliberate provocation they pour on you and watch them dry up and die.

God bless and Happy curing

References :

http://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b/amp

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Why-Do-Atheists-Have-the-Highest-Suicide-Rates

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

cc winner01, felixomor, Anas09, ishilove, Sonofthunder, sciencewatch, image123, kingebukasblog, etc

budaatum:

The great pity is that unbeknown to you, it would seem, your style of argument projects your mental state and if you could only see, you would find what you've written here applies to you.

But one need not bother about the forest in ones own eye, I suppose, when one can focus better on the twig in the eye of others.

Vinstel:
I don't even waste my time arguing with atheists. I tell them the truth and leave them to do whatever they will with it.

WHAT TRUTH...
THAT THERE'S AN INVISIBLE BEING UP IN THE SKY THAT WE ALL SHOULD FEAR AND WORSHIP..... AND THAT HIS MESSENGERS NEED OUR MONEY? HAHAHAHA

Butterflyleo:


Do remember that you are holding a loaded gun that points both ways with a feather trigger.

This is a religion section of this forum last time I checked and it is actually atheists who invaded it and decided to focus on the twig in our eyes while deliberately ignoring the forest of thorn bushes in their eyes.

I hope I helped reset your thinking.

2) They are the most aggressive bitter and unhappy group in the society and this is evident even here on nairaland as all you need to do is scan individual atheist comments in the religion section and you would see hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language all roled into one. It is common knowledge that our words are a projection of who we are.

budaatum:

You would have to take that up with the mods butter, for if as you say, that is a rule, you need just report me and get me banned.

As to the loaded gun that points both ways, it is as I have suggested in my post, perhaps consider that it points at you too. Though, to be accurate, loaded guns do not point both ways, least not as far as I can recall!

Butterflyleo:
His arm twisting technique evident in his method of writing is meant to trigger you emotionally and force words of defence from you. This method of his is already captured in the OP.

Butterflyleo:


You can use the loaded gun term to mean a two sided coin or words though attempted to focus on others were actually focused on ourselves.

Butterflyleo:

As pointed out in the OP.

This is clearly evident in the language of the comment from the atheist who is one step above me.

budaatum:

The op itself was intended to trigger emotion and force words of defence butter, and you know it was!

And you also know the last thing you intend to do on this thread is take a dose of the medicine you advise others to take, as that would defeat your intention.

budaatum:

Oh, we need not go outside this thread to "see hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language all roled into one" butter. There is enough "hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language" in the original post in this thread!

Butterflyleo:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam

Butterflyleo:


You can go ahead and petition the owners of the links I referenced.

Butterflyleo:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

budaatum:

Below is an example of your gun shotting both ways!

The LTTE was a self-styled national liberation organization with the primary goal of establishing an independent Tamil state. Tamil nationalism was the primary basis of its ideology. The LTTE was influenced by Indian freedom fighters such as Subhas Chandra Bose. The organization denied being a separatist movement and saw itself as fighting for self-determination and restoration of sovereignty in what it recognized as its homeland. Although most Tigers were Hindus, the LTTE was an avowedly secular organization; religion did not play any significant part in its ideology.

I strongly advise you buy your guns from reputable dealers so you don't shoot yourself!

In his later life, Marx wrote only about a need to separate religion from the state, but he was still hostile to religious belief. He believed that belief in the existence of God was immoral and anti-human

The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools. Actions toward particular religions, however, were determined by State interests, and most organized religions were never outlawed.
The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labor camps. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited. By 1939 only about 500 of over 50,000 churches remained open

Butterflyleo:

http://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

Butterflyleo:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b/amp

Butterflyleo:

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Why-Do-Atheists-Have-the-Highest-Suicide-Rates

Copy To Comrade Molotov
Top Secret For members of the Politburo
Please make no copies for any reason. Each
member of the Politburo (incl. Comrade Kalinin)
should comment directly on the document.
Lenin.

In regard to the occurrence at Shuia, which is already slated for discussion by the Polituro, it is necessary right now to make a firm decision about a general plan of action in the present course. Because I doubt that I will be able to attend the Politburo meeting on March 20th in person, I will set down my thoughts in writing.

The event at Shuia should be connected with the announcement that the Russian News Agency [ROST] recently sent to the newspapers but that was not for publication, namely, the
announcement that the Black Hundreds in Petrograd [Piter] were preparing to defy the decree on the removal of property of value
from the churches. If this fact is compared with what the papers report about the attitude of the clergy to the decree on the removal of church property in addition to what we know about the illegal proclamation of Patriarch Tikhon, then it becomes perfectly clear that the Black Hundreds clergy, headed by its leader, with full
deliberation is carrying out a plan at this very moment to destroy us decisively.

It is obvious that the most influential group of the Black Hundreds clergy conceived this plan in secret meetings and that it was accepted with sufficient resolution. The events in Shuia is only
one manifestation and actualization of this general plan.

I think that here our opponent is making a huge strategic error by attempting to draw us into a decisive struggle now when it is especially hopeless and especially disadvantageous to him. For us, on the other hand, precisely at the present moment we are presented with an exceptionally favorable, even unique, opportunity when we can in 99 out of 100 chances utterly defeat our enemy
with complete success and guarantee for ourselves the position we require for decades. Now and only now, when people are being
eaten in famine-stricken areas, and hundreds, if not thousands, of corpses lie on the roads, we can (and therefore must) pursue the removal of church property with the most frenzied and ruthless energy and not hesitate to put down the least opposition. Now and only now, the vast majority of peasants will either be on our side,
or at least will not be in a position to support to any decisive degree this handful of Black Hundreds clergy and reactionary urban
petty bourgeoisie, who are willing and able to attempt to oppose this Soviet decree with a policy of force.


We must pursue the removal of church property by any means necessary in order to secure for ourselves a fund of several
hundred million gold rubles (do not forget the immense wealth of some monasteries and lauras). Without this fund any government
work in general, any economic build-up in particular, and any upholding of soviet principles in Genoa especially is completely unthinkable. In order to get our hands on this fund of several
hundred million gold rubles (and perhaps even several hundred billion), we must do whatever is necessary. But to do this successfully is possible only now. All considerations indicate that
later on we will fail to do this, for no other time, besides that of desperate famine, will give us such a mood among the general mass
of peasants that would ensure us the sympathy of this group, or, at least, would ensure us the neutralization of this group in the sense
that victory in the struggle for the removal of church property unquestionably and completely will be on our side.

One clever writer on statecraft correctly said that if it is necessary for the realization of a well-known political goal to perform a series of brutal actions then it is necessary to do them in
the most energetic manner and in the shortest time, because masses of people will not tolerate the protracted use of brutality. This observation in particular is further strengthened because harsh measures against a reactionary clergy will be politically impractical, possibly even extremely dangerous as a result of the international
situation in which we in Russia, in all probability, will find ourselves, or may find ourselves, after Genoa. Now victory over the reactionary clergy is assured us completely. In addition, it will
be more difficult for the major part of our foreign adversaries among the Russian emigres abroad, i.e., the Socialist-Revolutionaries and the Milyukovites [Left Wing Cadet Party], to
fight against us if we, precisely at this time, precisely in connection with the famine, suppress the reactionary clergy with utmost haste
and ruthlessness.

Therefore, I come to the indisputable conclusion that we must precisely now smash the Black Hundreds clergy most decisively and ruthlessly and put down all resistance with such
brutality that they will not forget it for several decades.

The campaign itself for carrying out this plan I envision in the following manner:

Only Comrade Kalinin should appear officially in regard to any measures taken--never and under no circumstance must Comrade Trotsky write anything for the press or in any other way appear before the public.

The telegram already issued in the name of the Politburo about the temporary suspension of removals must not be rescinded.
It is useful for us because it gives our adversary the impression that we are vacillating, that he has succeeded in confusing us (our adversary, of course, will quickly find out about this secret
telegram precisely because it is secret).

Send to Shuia one of the most energetic, clear-headed, and capable members of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee
[VTsIK] or some other representative of the central government (one is better than several), giving him verbal instructions through one of the members of the Politburo. The instructions must come down to this, that in Shuia he must arrest more if possible but not less than several dozen representatives of the local clergy, the local
petty bourgeoisie, and the local bourgeoisie on suspicion of direct or indirect participation in the forcible resistance to the decree of the VTsIK on the removal of property of value from churches.
Immediately upon completion of this task, he must return to Moscow and personally deliver a report to the full session of the Politburo or to two specially authorized members of the Politburo. On the basis of this report, the Politburo will give a detailed directive to the judicial authorities, also verbal, that the trial of the insurrectionists from Shuia, for opposing aid to the starving, should be carried out in utmost haste and should end not other than with the shooting of the very largest number of the most influential and dangerous of the Black Hundreds in Shuia, and, if possible, not only in this city but even in Moscow and several other ecclesiastical
centers.

I think that it is advisable for us not to touch Patriarch Tikhon himself, even though he undoubtedly headed this whole revolt of slave-holders. Concerning him, the State Political
Administration [GPU] must be given a secret directive that precisely at this time all communications of this personage must be
monitored and their contents disclosed in all possible accuracy and detail. Require Dzerzhinsky and Unshlikht personally to report to
the Politburo about this weekly.

At the party congress arrange a secret meeting of all or almost all delegates to discuss this matter jointly with the chief workers of the GPU, the People's Commissariat of Justice [NKIu], and the Revolutionary Tribunal. At this meeting pass a secret resolution of the congress that the removal of property of value, especially from the very richest lauras, monasteries, and churches, must be carried out with ruthless resolution, leaving nothing in doubt, and in the very shortest time. The greater the number of
representatives of the reactionary clergy and the reactionary bourgeoisie that we succeed in shooting on this occasion, the better because this "audience" must precisely now be taught a lesson in such a way that they will not dare to think about any resistance whatsoever for several decades.

To attend to the quickest and most successful carrying out of these measures, there at the congress, i.e., at the secret meeting,
appoint a special commission, the participation of Comrade Trotsky and Comrade Kalinin being required, without giving any publicity to this commission, with the purpose that the subordination to it of all operations would be provided for and carried out not in the name of the commission but as an all-soviet and all-party order. Appoint those who are especially responsible from among the best workers to carry out these measures in the wealthiest lauras,
monasteries, and churches.

Lenin.

March 19, 1922.

I request that Comrade Molotov attempt to circulate this letter to the members of the Politburo by evening today (not making copies) and ask them to return it to the secretary
immediately after reading it, with a succinct note regarding whether each member of the Politburo agrees in principle or if the letter arouses any differences of opinion.

Lenin.



A note in the hand of Comrade Molotov:

"Agreed. However, I propose to extend the campaign not to all gubernias and cities, but to those where indeed there are considerable possessions of value, accordingly concentrating the forces and attention of the party.

March 19. Molotov

Butterflyleo:
As I chat with atheists here on nairaland I tend to also study them and their styles of argument which unknown to them, projects their mental states through their writing and I have come to discover a few rather shocking things as I studied them.

I will begin this OP with a quote by Robert Reich the former U.S labour secretary under former President Bill Clinton when he said and I quote

"God is worse than terrorism"! He argued that followers of God pose a more significant threat to the 21st Century world than terrorists do and concluded by saying,

“ the great conflict of the modern world will not be between the West and terrorism but between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority; between those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma”.

These rather illogical choice of words are the lengths atheists resort to while trying to negate the existence of God to themselves FIRST and then by extension, to their readers. This process of self negation involves playing of many mental games that well and truly stretches their psychological defense mechanisms.

The three men, who made atheism popular in the 19th Century, had almost the same experiences early in their lives, and there is a common psychological pattern evident in their later lives of rebellion.

They are, Friedrich Nietzsche, Thomas Henry Huxley and Sigmund Freud. They all had very similar psychological challenges and issues in their lives. They all had cruel fathers who often exerted domineering tendencies on them, they all suffered very high levels of depression and chronic obsessive fears. They therefore made it their lifes goal to destroy God, who to them represented a symbol of their fathers.

Since the existence of God is a reality (Yes I said that it is a reality so it is not a typo and is not open to debate either), an atheists mind protects itself from this rather profound reality through rejection of God’s existence using several psychological defense mechanisms such as i have observed in basically all Nairaland atheists. These psychological defense mechanisms are,

1) Rationalization

2) Repression

3) Displacement

4) Suppression and denial

Rationalization is an atheist’s number one favourite psychological defense mechanism. They very much depend on false reasoning that sounds logical to negate to themselves, the reality of God. They will throw loads and loads of reasons at Christians as to why God does not exist, and make them sound as logical as possible.

I will quote from a book written by John Pasquini, titled, Atheist Personality Disorder and he said thus,

"Addressing a Distorted Mindset, points out that atheists are good at using pedantic language to convince themselves and others, as they fool themselves that they are intellectually superior, while in the real sense, they are mere rationalizers."

Displacement is another extremely popular coping mechanism that an atheist uses. They always shift their anger towards believers and belief systems. Have you ever wondered why the thing atheists are good at is attacking religion and believers? It’s simply a coping mechanism.

An over reliance on these defense mechanisms do often lead to emotional immaturity and disjointed thinking that ends up in personality disorders. There is more than enough proof that atheism is a personality disorder.

1) Atheists have among the highest suicide rates in the world. Atheist countries have a suicide rate of 32 percent for every 100,000 people as compared to 4 for every 100,000 people in religious countries.

2) They are the most aggressive bitter and unhappy group in the society and this is evident even here on nairaland as all you need to do is scan individual atheist comments in the religion section and you would see hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language all roled into one. It is common knowledge that our words are a projection of who we are.

3) Statistics have shown that they are less likely to get married twice as likely to get divorced and highly likely to have no children.

4) Statistics from atheistic regimes show that atheists are among the most intolerant groups in the world. The most popular atheistic nations are the former Soviet Union (Which is now a Christian Nation known as Russia), Vietnam and North Korea. According to John Pasquini, the Soviets destroyed more than 42,000 churches between 1917 and 1969, leaving the country with less than 6,000 churches. North Korea destroyed more than 500 Buddhist temples, while Vietnam destroyed more than 700. About 168 out of 270 suicide bombings that were carried out between 1980 and 2000 were not by Muslims but by Marxist atheists, including the bombing that killed President Ranasinge Premadasa of Sri Lanka in 1993 which was carried out by an atheist terrorist group known as Tamil Tigers (Yes again i said it and it was no typo. The Tamil Tigers are an atheist terrorist group). And it is clearly evident through their ideology as stated by wikipedia and i quote,

"Religion was not a major factor in their philosophy or ideology, the ideology of the Tamil Tigers emerged from Marxist-Leninist thought, and was explicitly secular. Its leadership professed opposition to religion".

As my fellow Christian, after you must have read all of the above, my strong counsel to you goes thus

"The very next time an atheist tries to engage you in an argument. LEAVE THEM ALONE!"

You don’t have to prove the existence of God to attention seeking psychotics who want to assert their intellectual superiority through faulty psychological coping mechanisms. You don’t have to prove that God exists. In fact you cannot be "arm twisted" to as atheists tend to attempt making you do through emotional blackmail. His existence is not debatable!

The moment you learn to ignore their demands they die just like when you starve a person of food, they die. This is the prescription on how to treat the mental disorder known as atheism.

Apply this very effective doses anywhere you see them gather and anytime you read their demands regarding proof for Gods existence from you regardless of the deliberate provocation they pour on you and watch them dry up and die.

God bless and Happy curing

Butterflyleo:

Your desire to go defensive out of guilt (as I earlier pointed out) is evident so I will stick to my earlier word and ignore you. Thank you

budaatum:

The great pity is that unbeknown to you, it would seem, your style of argument projects your mental state and if you could only see, you would find what you've written here applies to you.

But one need not bother about the forest in ones own eye, I suppose, when one can focus better on the twig in the eye of others.

Butterflyleo:

Atheism : Not connected with religious and spiritual matters.