mannyU:



Uchenna Duru turned Oluwa Ahmed on nairaland. To whAt end?? KindA confused.. Pls explain

Infact don't bother, its none of my biz really

See as you cast am... hahaha...

leofab:

Paul and his doctrine had troubles being accepted in Ephesus.

"And he went into the synagogue and spoke boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the kingdom of God. But when some were hardened and did not believe, but spoke evil of the way before the multitude..." Acts 19:8,9

open a thread for this and mention me.

praxs:

Sure. But am not sure i can upload upto 9mb here

Please do send it for me too.
Chommieblaq@gmail.com, ma email

praxs:
i have the softcopy, too bulky couldnt read it coz of time

please send to my email too. Adebisigabrielleolaoye@yahoo.com. Thanks

It is evident that you are a die hard penticostal. It is people like you who think they know it all.
Might I ask you, was His name Jesus before he came to earth to redeem Men unto His Father?
By the way Jesus is a seeming corruption of the original "Joshua" "Youshua"
So I ask you when did this entity who came into the world took flesh and died to rise after 3days from hades of course after preaching to the dead in the grave {1peter 3:18 to 20}(1peter 4 :6) and now bears this name that is above all else to which EVERY KNEE MUST BOW....was it before or after IT took flesh?

Please also send to edcline7@yahoo.com

Malvisguy212

My broda!!

See d way u dey talk like you dey when all this Jewish books were written.

For me I Think this bible we are reading now is not complete. Because, the books in d bible; are contrasting each other.

And many manuscripts that is not connected to Jesus was subtracted from the bible.

joseph1832:
Praxs, I guess its the same reason why the gospel according to Mary Magdalene was remove, the gospel according to phillip was removed, the book Tobias was removed and a whole lot of other books.

I'll always say this that the reason why I feel these books were removed is just to sell religion to us and make it seem fallible for the gullible minds to accept its doctored dogmatism.

Alot of books dissappeared... some destroyed completely... some hidden deep in the Vatican... my interest grew when the Vatican sued Dan Brown...

But I'm a muslim... people will only think I'm trying to bastardise Christianity... so I never talk about it... but when such topics comes to fore... I can't deny I haven't been snooping around... hehe...

malvisguy212:
you did not read, if you did you cannot be deceive so easily like this, the book of enoch is satanic and cannot be trusted, enoch died long time ago, someone came with lies to deceive people like you.

Here's chapter 48:1-3 of the book of enoch ...
1 And in that place I saw the
fountain of righteousness Which
was inexhaustible: And around it
were many fountains of wisdom:
And all the thirsty drank of them,
And were filled with wisdom, And
their dwellings were with the
righteous and holy and elect. 2
And at that hour that Son of Man
was named In the presence of
the Lord of Spirits, And his name
before the Head of Days. 3 Yea,
before the sun and the signs
were created, Before the stars of
the heaven were made, HIS NAME
WAS NAMED before the
Lord of Spirits.


Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, " I
am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. " Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end. Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. IF the Book of Enoch were
valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't. Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true. Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God. In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis.

malvisguy212:
open a thread for this and mention me.

malvisguy212:
you did not read, if you did you cannot be deceive so easily like this, the book of enoch is satanic and cannot be trusted, enoch died long time ago, someone came with lies to deceive people like you.

Here's chapter 48:1-3 of the book of enoch ...
1 And in that place I saw the
fountain of righteousness Which
was inexhaustible: And around it
were many fountains of wisdom:
And all the thirsty drank of them,
And were filled with wisdom, And
their dwellings were with the
righteous and holy and elect. 2
And at that hour that Son of Man
was named In the presence of
the Lord of Spirits, And his name
before the Head of Days. 3 Yea,
before the sun and the signs
were created, Before the stars of
the heaven were made, HIS NAME
WAS NAMED before the
Lord of Spirits.


Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, " I
am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. " Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end. Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. IF the Book of Enoch were
valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't. Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true. Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God. In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis.

please im not sure Enoch died...check your bible,i think he was "taken" just like elijah...And about the angela...thet are mare servants of God...Just like you share responsibilities to servants or your workers thats how God shared responsibility to them...the Angel that ministered to Elisbath is diff from the one that ministered to john and Daniel

praxs:
Why was the Book of Enoch removed from the bible?
I did do a little research before posting my question and found out that only the Ethiopian Christians kept it, that Jews rejected it because it......
well the thing is that fragments of it were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It seems like an authentic part of the Old Testament and only Ethiopians have...
But even the accepted Genesis which Christians accept says angels from heaven had children with earthly female humans, so the book of Enoch only expands on...
The original book of Enoch is written in a mixture of Ge'ez (or something like that spoken in Ethiopia), Aramaic and Latin. Lets share what we know about it

bros biko mail it to me.... unearthedmg@gmail.com. tnx in adv.

Craigston:


Isn't this consistent with the mention of Jesus in the books of the Psalms, Isaiah, Daniel and John?
That He was named does not mean he was created at that time, neither does it mean He was elected at that time. He was revealed to Enoch at that time.

the bible say Jesus exist BEFORE the world was, Jesus is the ancient of days. Jesus was name only when the word BECAME flesh , there was NEVER a time He was name in heaven. NEVER. Do not be deceive friend.

2016Utmerunz:
Holla me I send it

pls send to junaidtunde1@gmail.com

1)Religion is a belief system, not a scientific system, so Mr. Man or Miss/Mrs Woman __ don't try 2 make a science out of it.

2)U must dia4 necessarily b rdy 2 c faults, accept doubts, liv in some lies, embrace sum tins by just believing in so long as it is working 4 u.

3)d best way 2 worship God is 2 b foolish 2 God, proving 2 him da even dou u av seen tins contrary 2 his existence or potency , da u still are always rdy 2 folo him & du his will.

4)My advis 4 u is jx 2 b rationale wit it in relation 2 dos gullible men of God

In d words of Abraham Lincoln, I say "wen I du good, I feel good, wen I du bad, I feel bad, das my religion" 2 hell wit dem diz goddam churches, mosques, etc
5) Never rid d bible 4 any purpose oda dan 4 d promotion of Christ, odawys, u wud c tins da wud eventually make u lus focus, become an atheist or worse. I'm talking 4rm xperiens . . .I thnk God 4 my life, I wud av not survived it. D trut is _ d mo u rid d Bible wit logic is d mo u turn away 4rm God. Now, dis is an effect 4rm d box.
6) outsyd d box include d lost buks of d bible, of which dis Enoch claims 2 b 1 of dem _ imagyn wot da wud du 2 u wen d box, d bible wen red wit logic can also scata ur head.

Abigail09:





thanks so much. I have seen it

Please dear forward it for me.
Chommieblaq@gmail.com

Luciferlove:



please im not sure Enoch died...check your bible,i think he was "taken" just like elijah...And about the angela...thet are mare servants of God...Just like you share responsibilities to servants or your workers thats how God shared responsibility to them...the Angel that ministered to Elisbath is diff from the one that ministered to john and Daniel

yes, enoch did not die neither did elijah died, infact they are NOT taken to heaven were God dwell, this is another topic for another day, but I will just give you a hint. Bible mention many heaven, mountain HIGH are heaven , sky were bird fly are heaven .

Abigail09:




thanks so much. I have seen it

Pliz send a copy 2 me also.....marcusvictor05@yahoo.co.uk

Pls help me send the copy to femynfred@yahoo.com

malvisguy212:
the book of enoch is 'A' fraud, lies by God enemy to confront the truth in the bible.

We read in chapter 40 of the Book of
Enoch...
9 seen and whose words I have
heard and written down?’ And he
said to me: ‘This first is Michael,
the merciful and long-suffering:
and the second, who is set over
all the diseases and all the
wounds of the children of men, is
Raphael: and the third, who is
set over all the powers, is
Gabriel: and the fourth, WHO IS
SET OVER THE REPENTANCE UNTO
HOPE OF THOSE WHO INHERIT
ETERNALl LIFE, IS NAME PHANUEL.’
10 And these are the four angels
of the Lord of Spirits and the four
voices I heard in those days.

The Bible never mentions an angel named Phanuel, let alone an angel who is set over the repentance of those who inherit eternal life. What blasphemy! That statement in itself contradicts everything the Word of God teaches. We read in 1st Timothy 2:5 that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Mediator between God and men, not some angel named Phanuel... " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. " Repentance is strictly between a man and Jesus Christ
alone. Only Jesus died for our sins, and shed His blood to pay for them(1st Peter 1:18-19); therefore, we must be diligent to guard and defend against LIARS and imposters who would lead people to believe otherwise. 1st John 2:22 clearly
indicts all Christ-deniers as LIARS, guilty before God.

how are u so sure that the one written by Enoch is lies and the one written by Timothy is right.......... fragment of wailing wailers

rexbuton:
leofab



wiki

the New Testament is a fallacious book put together to discredit the old mosaic laws brought forward by Moses....

After mentioning his contact with Peter, James and John the first time in Jerusalem to discuss what should be required of the Gentiles, he says these words.

"Now concerning the things which I write to you, indeed, before God, I do not lie." Galatians 1:20

Paul actually had the gall to preface a lie with an oath of honesty! One has to ask the question why he felt compelled in the first place to assure the Galatians he was not lying! Yeshua had a few words to say concerning this type of oath:

"Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ But I say to you, do not swear at all, neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne’ nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’, and your ‘No’ be ‘No’. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one." Matthew 5:33-37

malvisguy212:
when satan tempt Eve, Eve quote what God command them not to do, meaning their are God consciousness in human. What denominations you belong too ?

what is consciousness without knowing you are naked?? What was god's initial intent for man?? To live in the garden naked and be jumping from tree to tree in search of fruits

malvisguy212:
the bible say Jesus exist BEFORE the world was, Jesus is the ancient of days. Jesus was name only when the word BECAME flesh , there was NEVER a time He was name in heaven. NEVER. Do not be deceive friend.

What do you call deception? Naming Him neither means electing Him nor creating Him. He has been named many times in heaven and on earth.
"...my beloved son in whom I am well-pleased" is just one example out of many. He was named in the visions of Isaiah, Daniel, John the beloved, Paul the apostle, Stephen the apostle (the honoured martyr), David the king and in some other instances.
I don't want to go into details, but the Christianity is the revelation of Jesus. It is all our faith is about.

malvisguy212:
have you done a research properly ? If you do you will know why, the book of enoch is devilish
The book of enoch say man wisdom came from DEMON named Penemue .

We read in the Book of Enoch, chapter 69:8-12...
8 ...And the fourth was named
Penemue: he taught the
9 children of men the bitter and
the sweet, and he taught them
all the secrets of their wisdom.
And he instructed mankind in
writing with ink and paper, and
thereby many sinned from
eternity to
10 eternity and until this day.
For men were not created for
such a purpose, to give
confirmation
11 to their good faith with pen
and ink. For men were created
exactly like the angels, to the
intent that they should continue
pure and righteous, and death,
which destroys everything, could
not have taken hold of them, but
through this their knowledge
they are perishing, and through
this power
12 it is consuming me.

What ... man's wisdom came from a demon named Penemue? That's crazy! Did ink and paper cause the fall of the human race? Whoa ... I'd better through all my fine-point pens away immediately! It was Adam's sin that brought sin into the world (Romans 5:12); not evil literature. Mankind is inherently evil of himself, prone to the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). The Charismatics (Pentecostals) give far too much credit to demons for the sinful actions of men. They believe that every sin a person commits is evidence of
demon-possession. That is absurd! Men and women sin because they are sinners! (Romans 3:10,23).

wow I will love to read this book.it feels real and truthfull, just the cloud covering ur face has not make u notice

malvisguy212:
open a thread for this and mention me.

i won't open any thread; abreast your self with the truth.. There is no religion greater than the truth!!!!

twosquare:
I'm interested. How does it nearly destroyed you?

I started making prayers like;
I break nature in the name of Jesus
I break time and use it to the favour of mankind.
I break the human genes n genome n whatever in them that is preventing them from manifesting the Powers of The Age to Come I break in Jesus name.
I open godly dimensions IJN and let the good things of those dimensions come unto me. Let godly ancient doors be open unto me.
I pray for Enoch were he is in paradise.
I rebuke the Antichrist n I pray that God will give the 2witnesses strength during the tribulation.
So many kain prayers like dis ehn by d time I finished I started dreaming about white godly beings coming to me.

Well maybe my brain is not strong enough to carry it all maybe that's y it all happened.

praxs:

Thanxfor the contribution. Different conspiracy theories exist regarding all dis

Yes there are many conspiracy theory regarding christianity and why many books were removed from the modern day bible. I even have a bible (nox version) with books not in this current version we use.

I've always maintained that religion is the undoing of the African man.

iPopAlomo:



Alot of books dissappeared... some destroyed completely... some hidden deep in the Vatican... my interest grew when the Vatican sued Dan Brown...

But I'm a muslim... people will only think I'm trying to bastardise Christianity... so I never talk about it... but when such topics comes to fore... I can't deny I haven't been snooping around... hehe...

Of course you're a muslim, but have you taken your time to question your own religion and find lope holes in it?

You should know Christianity is just as porous as Islam with it comes to issues like this.

Hello friend. I also would like to have this soft copy.
My email: princechigreg@yahoo.co.uk.
Thanks in advance.

praxs:

Sure. But am not sure i can upload upto 9mb here

leofab:
the New Testament is a fallacious book put together to discredit the old mosaic laws brought forward by Moses....

After mentioning his contact with Peter, James and John the first time in Jerusalem to discuss what should be required of the Gentiles, he says these words.

"Now concerning the things which I write to you, indeed, before God, I do not lie." Galatians 1:20

Paul actually had the gall to preface a lie with an oath of honesty! One has to ask the question why he felt compelled in the first place to assure the Galatians he was not lying! Yeshua had a few words to say concerning this type of oath:

"Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ But I say to you, do not swear at all, neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne’ nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’, and your ‘No’ be ‘No’. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one." Matthew 5:33-37

When did Paul lie?

Any proof of your theory on NT being a fallacy?

praxs:
Why was the Book of Enoch removed from the bible?
I did do a little research before posting my question and found out that only the Ethiopian Christians kept it, that Jews rejected it because it......
well the thing is that fragments of it were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It seems like an authentic part of the Old Testament and only Ethiopians have...
But even the accepted Genesis which Christians accept says angels from heaven had children with earthly female humans, so the book of Enoch only expands on...
The original book of Enoch is written in a mixture of Ge'ez (or something like that spoken in Ethiopia), Aramaic and Latin. Lets share what we know about it

send me the soft copy of Enoch @Rabbai_manny@yahoo.com thanks in adv

malvisguy212:
you are insulting who you do not know. If you know me, you will not insult me.

You don't have to keep responding sir.

phreakabit:
Because you are mentally demented and a tad too slow to spot a conspiracy even if it smacks you in the face. . .
There never was a book of Enoch in the first place .
I guess this is your first time hearing about this silly stuff from a dumb pro-black supremacists?
Blacks need to understand that being rebellious doesn't necessarily equate being intelligent.

And you fail to understand that being gullible enough to credulously accept a collection of books written in the medieval time by anonymous authors with no original is not a virtue and there is every need and call for critical evaluation of its origin, compilation and collection rather than taking it on face value.

You've just committed a serious fallacious appeal to ignorance.

Abigail09:





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Abigail09:




thanks so much. I have seen it

Abigail can forward to my mail; sholasaba@gmail.com