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ifenes:
A degree in PHD is no proof of knowledge. What comes out of your brain is obviously from a wine bar.

Hmmnn. And what comes out of your brain is what? google?

Maybe you should google what comes out of your brain too, since its the only thing you know how to do

winner01:
Same reason you keep invoking science.
Cant you stand on your own.?

All the bull you put up here, is it from the books you read or from google?

At least I dont get my knowkedge from Sunday school.

I read modern books, you read stone age myths.

Can you spot the difference ?

plaetton:
Huh ?

What's all this incoherent Babble ?

A Master's degree Holder?
C'mon !!

I guess they don't make those degrees as good as they used to.
Or you folks are special needs children with learning disabilities.

Pitiful.

I tell you to ask your wife if logic explains everything and you become a dunce.

Funny though

Get a book and Come up with something better.

winner01:
Same reason you keep invoking science.
Cant you stand on your own

You invoke magic, supernatural, spiri spiri mumbo jumbo.

And yes, I invoke science, the same science that made it possible for you and I to communicate unanimously over great distances.

So, can you now spot the difference between you and I?

plaetton:
At least I dont get my knowkedge from Sunday school.

I read modern books, you read stone age myths.

Can you spot the difference ?

Still wondering what you mean by stone age myth.

No way are you gonna read and still be this close-minded.

Except, of course stup1d blogs on google are your books

winner01:
I tell you to ask your wife if logic explains everything and you become a dunce.

Funny though

Get a book and Come up with something better.

Your fragmented thinking is so obvious here.

Sorry, I cannot condescend to meet you at your level.

Our educational system can't be that bad.

You lie.
I doubt if you have seen the gate of a university.

ifenes:
Then you need to learn

Learn from who?
You ?

plaetton:
Your fragmented thinking is so obvious here.

Our educational system can't be that bad.

You lie.
I doubt if you have seen the gate of a university.

First, magicians taught me
now i ddnt even go to school at all

Tell me again how how stup1d you arnt.

KingEbukaNaija:
Oh he did

I'm sure you haven't studied physics enough to disprove Hawking's postulates.

KingEbukaNaija:
The creation story is true and the sequence of events checks out

Oh really? Plants came before the sun? Right? You're telling that is what science says? Well, you're just lying.

KingEbukaNaija:
The creator is conscious , intelligent and eternal . You might well explain how matter provided self awareness in humans .

You created a rule that everything must come from something why terminate it at that point?

I'll tell you why, it's to hide you're weak argument. Ok, what provided self awareness in your god?

KingEbukaNaija:
Some scientists proposed that the universe is eternal with claims that there is no singularity .

That's one possibility, energy has not been destroyed yet as far as physicists know. But wouldn't it be straight-up asinine to assume some god did it?

Christianity discourages critical thinking which is an inherent aspect of science. The period of time were christianity was at its peak is called the Dark Ages for a reason.

Don't supress the spread actual peer-reviewed science for a bunch of fairytales.

plaetton:
You invoke magic, supernatural, spiri spiri mumbo jumbo.

And yes, I invoke science, the same science that made it possible for you and I to communicate unanimously over great distances.

So, can you now spot the difference between you and I?

I laff when you keep pushing science away from religion christianity.
Google scientist

You cant invoke science because science aint closemindedness. science isnt atheism.

Atheism is stup1dity, science isnt.

Stand on your own you irrelevant google scientist

Science made it possible to communicate not atheism.

whatever you meant by magic

winner01:
infinite regression
*face palm*
https://www.nairaland.com/2816262/god-created-everything-created-god

So you believe that an omniscient, omnipotent god has existed for eternity but works in ways that are suspiciously similar to random chance?

God created heaven and earth, I though he art I heaven. Where was he before that?

Look just because it was written long ago doesn't make it true, the early conception of the world that was extrapolated from the bible is very similar to the Babylonian one and guess what, they're both wrong. I'm sure you'll say God did that, but why? So that critical thinkers would doubt him and go to hell?

Or is it just a flawed primitive individual that wrote this?

winner01:
@ bolded, just one problem, the atheist seems to know all the means, and is sure God is not one of them.

Because we have no reason to believe that god is one of them, there is no point to most occurrences that happen in the universe. So he either doesn't exist or is in hiding.

But the god we see in the bible is all guns blazing, performing miracles all over the place.

Where is he today?

Today a man with cancer would go through chemo and then thank God when it goes into remission.

When my dad was sick three months back and was going to church for prayers, nothing happened up to the point that the pastor told my dad to go to the hospital.

A surgery almost a million naira later, my dad is still on medication.

Here's the kicker, he still thinks God did it!

winner01:
I laff when you keep pushing science away from religion christianity.
Google scientist

You cant invoke science because science aint closemindedness. science isnt atheism.

Atheism is stup1dity, science isnt.

Stand on your own you irrelevant google scientist

Science made it possible to communicate not atheism.

whatever you meant by magic

You know, it's the Toothfairy that inspired you to advertise your educational qualifications today.

Now, all anyone needs to do is square your supposed educational qualifications with the incoherent, fragmented , dim-witted and shallow ramblings here, and then see that it's one of two problems.

1. It's either our educational system has been so erroded to the point where we produce loud empty vessels by the truckloads, or

2. That you are just slow, dim-witted , low IQ, special needs pupil who slipped through the cracks of our educational system.

Normally I would feel ashamed exchanging words with an intellectual midget like you, but since you claim high academic credentials, I will henceforth, use you to illustrate the tragedy of middle East shi.t religions on the African mind.

Hopefully, something beneficial will come out it,. For you or for our society.

ifenes:
A degree in PHD is no proof of knowledge. What comes out of your brain is obviously from a wine bar.

Guy you go school at all?

winner01:
I laff when you keep pushing science away from religion christianity.
Google scientist

You cant invoke science because science aint closemindedness. science isnt atheism.

Atheism is stup1dity, science isnt.

Stand on your own you irrelevant google scientist

Science made it possible to communicate not atheism.

whatever you meant by magic

Atheism is NOT stup1dity, dude. It's christianity that seems to be anti-intellectual because faith is indistinguishable from gullibility and indoctrination. I mean, YOU see it when you're looking at other religions or cults but are blind to your own.

Christianity's philosophy basically tells us to throw logic away to find happiness. It preys on vulnerable people (like the sick, the poor, and children) and completely takes their self-esteem away so that they feel they can't perform without God. They are irrationally afraid to question anything and will staunchly defend it because of the fear of hell.

I mean, upon reflection don't you see these things?

plaetton:
You know, it's the Toothfairy that inspired you to advertise your educational qualifications today.

Ive never spoken of my qualifications to anyone here, even when ordinary google scientists try to employ science and think they know anything, even when atheists accuse christians of not reading from stup1d blogs on google
I only felt the need to show you why im passionate on dolts spreading ignorance.

plaetton:
You know, it's the Toothfairy that inspired you to advertise your educational qualifications today.

Now, all anyone needs to do is square your supposed educational qualifications with the incoherent, fragmented , dim-witted and shallow ramblings here, and then see that it's one of two problems.

1. It's either our educational system has been so erroded to the point where we produce loud empty vessels by the truckloads, or

2. That you are just slow, dim-witted , low IQ, special needs pupil who slipped through the cracks of our educational system.

Normally I would feel ashamed exchanging words with an intellectual midget like you, but since you claim high academic credentials, I will henceforth be stupid because of my joblessness.
Hopefully, something beneficial will come out it,. For you or for our society.

Of course, coming from a google scientist.
You are alien to my level of education, im not surprised you feel the way you do.

Lol,You should be a comedian.

plaetton:
Lol.
Doesn't get it.

"...it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment." Hebrews 9: 27

winner01:
Ive never spoken of my qualifications to anyone here, even when ordinary google scientists try to employ science and think they know anything, even when atheists accuse christians of not reading from stup1d blogs on google
I only felt the need to show you why im passionate on dolts spreading ignorance.

Of course, coming from a google scientist.
You are alien to my level of education, im not surprised you feel the way you do.

Lol,You should be a comedian.

Lol.
Yes indeed sir.
I am somewhat alien to your educational qualifications.
Chai!
See a sentence constructed by a Master's degree Holder.

BTW, in what academic discipline did you get your credentials?
I hope it's not the sciences.

Because a lot of you religio-fraudsters conflate bible school certificates with academic degrees.

malvisguy212:
"...it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment." Hebrews 9: 27

What about rapture, and the second coming?

CoolUsername:
So you believe that an omniscient, omnipotent god has existed for eternity but works in ways that are suspiciously similar to random chance?

God ordained the laws of physics to create and govern the material world we live in.
Im yet to see any claim that will debunk this.

CoolUsername:
God created heaven and earth, I though he art I heaven. Where was he before that?

Look just because it was written long ago doesn't make it true, the early conception of the world that was extrapolated from the bible is very similar to the Babylonian one and guess what, they're both wrong. I'm sure you'll say God did that, but why? So that critical thinkers would doubt him and go to hell?

Or is it just a flawed primitive individual that wrote this?

You sound as if everything in the world is explainable. Science dosent claim to have all the answers, but atheism is so sure that there isnt a Creator. Its called close-mindedness.
Why not try to probe where God was with your "created" senses.
The bible was extrapolated and blah blah blah, all talk no proof.

CoolUsername:
Or is it just a flawed primitive individual that wrote this?

Because we have no reason to believe that god is one of them, there is no point to most occurrences that happen in the universe. So he either doesn't exist or is in hiding.

!

The primitive individual would have been so intelligent to write such a book on human philosophy that still stands in coherence with 21st century scientific findings.
Nedless to say how the primitive lived over 4500 years and on different continents.

CoolUsername:
But the god we see in the bible is all guns blazing, performing miracles all over the place.

Where is he today?

Today a man with cancer would go through chemo and then thank God when it goes into remission.

When my dad was sick three months back and was going to church for prayers, nothing happened up to the point that the pastor told my dad to go to the hospital.

A surgery almost a million naira later, my dad is still on medication.

Here's the kicker, he still thinks God did it!

I keep saying that 98% of atheists here are because of one emotional wreck or the other. Im sorry about your dad but you need to start viewings things differently.
God created man in his creative image and ever since, man has been creating.
I wonder what some pastors think when they stop man from using mans creations.
Man's creation is not in conflict with Gods intervention so why cant i thank God for intervening in the same drugs that was ineffective on some others.
Maybe i should start thanking the universe
Your dad probably knows better. Maybe you should discuss your atheism with him.

plaetton:
Lol.
Yes indeed sir.
I am somewhat alien to your educational qualifications.
Chai!
See a sentence constructed by a Master's degree Holder.

BTW, in what academic discipline did you get your credentials?
I hope it's not the sciences.

Because a lot of you religio-fraudsters conflate bible school certificates with academic degrees.

Please, correct the wrong in my sentence.

I got my degree in igbo language ode.

You are just a joke, an irrelevant one.

winner01:
Please, correct the wrong in my sentence.

I got my degree in igbo language ode.

You are just a joke, an irrelevant one.

Well then, if you got your degree nin Igbo language, then you can be useful to society after all.

In fact, I will sponsor your PhD in Igbo language , if you're serious.

plaetton:
Well then, if you got your degree nin Igbo language, then you can be useful to society after all.

In fact, I will sponsor your PhD in Igbo language , if you're serious.

Lol, sponsor yourself first, you need it more than i do.
comedian
You still havent corrected the wrong in my sentence.

winner01:
God ordained the laws of physics to create and govern the material world we live in.
Im yet to see any claim that will debunk this.

Is this a hypothesis or a theory ?

Or wishful thinking of a primitive mind ?

What experiments , what mathematical extrapolations have you presented to support this ?

And you're looking for someone to debunk your wishful fantasy ?

OK. Try debunking this ;

The Toothfairy ordained the laws of physics to create the Flying Spagetti Monster( FSM) who governs the material world.

Do you get my drift ?

CoolUsername:
Atheism is NOT stup1dity, dude. It's christianity that seems to be anti-intellectual because faith is indistinguishable from gullibility and indoctrination. I mean, YOU see it when you're looking at other religions or cults but are blind to your own.

Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods.
Its new age atheists that try to add "without substantial evidence" to the dictionary meanimg of atheism.
And that is outright stup1dity and close mindedness
Atheists seem to be sure that God does not exist and that the universe has no cause. The moniker in the picture below also realised that.

CoolUsername:
Christianity's philosophy basically tells us to throw logic away to find happiness. It preys on vulnerable people (like the sick, the poor, and children) and completely takes their self-esteem away so that they feel they can't perform without God. They are irrationally afraid to question anything and will staunchly defend it because of the fear of hell.

I mean, upon reflection don't you see these things?

to throw away logic and prey on weak minds?
What did you read and where did you get such information.
Many christians asks questions, its the only way one can grow in any relationship.
The difference between a sincere christian and you is where and whom you ask your questions.
You obviously have asked from wrong sources such that their bullshit now sounds so convincing to you.

plaetton:
Is this a hypothesis or a theory ?

Or wishful thinking of a primitive mind ?

What experiments , what mathematical extrapolations have you presented to support this ?

And you're looking for someone to debunk your wishful fantasy ?

OK. Try debunking this ;

The Toothfairy ordained the laws of physics to create the Flying Spagetti Monster( FSM) who governs the material world.

Do you get my drift ?

Then start talking about the toothfairy instead of God na.
of course not, it dosent exist.

dude, free me abeg, i got work to do.

winner01:
Then start talking about the toothfairy instead of God na.
of course not, it dosent exist.

I rest my case.

plaetton:
Well then, if you got your degree nin Igbo language, then you can be useful to society after all.

In fact, I will sponsor your PhD in Igbo language , if you're serious.

Oga no mind Winner01, the guy na don already. Please direct your resources at a young bright mind
https://www.nairaland.com/2812922/plz-student

winner01:
God ordained the laws of physics to create and govern the material world we live in.
Im yet to see any claim that will debunk this.

You made the claim, you should be the one to prove it.
But what would you say about evolution? Since it can't be reconciled with the bible's fragile logic it must automatically be wrong.

winner01:
You sound as if everything in the world is explainable. Science dosent claim to have all the answers, but atheism is so sure that there isnt a Creator. Its called close-mindedness.
Why not try to probe where God was with your "created" senses.
The bible was extrapolated and blah blah blah, all talk no proof.

Just google it dude. I don't really have time right now.

winner01:
The primitive individual would have been so intelligent to write such a book on human philosophy that still stands in coherence with 21st century scientific findings.
Nedless to say how the primitive lived over 4500 years and on different continents.

While the book does have its merits it is still extremely far from accurate on human philosophy if I say so myself.
Like fore example, it's severely lacking in knowledge on females, and people's sexual orientations.
I guess you can call the area between Ethiopia and Iran two continents.

winner01:
I keep saying that 98% of atheists here are because of one emotional wreck or the other. Im sorry about your dad but you need to start viewings things differently.
God created man in his creative image and ever since, man has been creating.
I wonder what some pastors think when they stop man from using mans creations.
Man's creation is not in conflict with Gods intervention so why cant i thank God for intervening in the same drugs that was ineffective on some others.
Maybe i should start thanking the universe
Your dad probably knows better. Maybe you should discuss your atheism with him.

Joke's on you, I've been an atheist for about two years now, dude so I have no emotional baggage here. In fact, I was the first to tell my dad to just go to a friggin' hospital but he only listens to the pastor.

Funny thing is, he showed symptoms about a year ago, if he had gone to the hospital then, he would only have needed medication (about 20 000 - 50 000 naira). But no, he prayed and endured it until it came back hard and he had to go through surgery.

That's the danger of christianity right there, children go to faith healers and die all the time because nobody took drugs in the bible.

And it is very convenient to say that medicine is ordained by god except that it didn't happen that way in the bible, did it?

Indoctrination is a plague, dude.

winner01:
Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods.
Its new age atheists that try to add "without substantial evidence" to the dictionary meanimg of atheism.
And that is outright stup1dity and close mindedness
Atheists seem to be sure that God does not exist and that the universe has no cause. The moniker in the picture below also realised that.

to throw away logic and prey on weak minds?
What did you read and where did you get such information.
Many christians asks questions, its the only way one can grow in any relationship.
The difference between a sincere christian and you is where and whom you ask your questions.
You obviously have asked from wrong sources such that their bullshit now sounds so convincing to you.

Christianity is preying on weak minds because it relies on the indoctrination of young minds to follow a specific pattern of belief. There's no room for change or doubt or for skepticism.

I just don't think that a god exists, if you want me to believe, show some good evidence.

If he's omnipotent why doesn't he do anything? Why does he have to reveal himself through an outdated book? Why do his followers reject scientific facts such as evolution? Why has he let his name be a source of violence and misery throughout history? Why does he work in mysterious and ineffectual ways? Why does carbon dating contradict his word?

Why? Why? Why?

winner01:
Google it?
How old is this guy?

Google: Jesus is evil and see if you wont get what you seek, something convincing.

A classical analogy that involved an intelligent being?

What kind of stup1d are you ?

The universe is infinite
KingEbukaNaija, come and see chumchin oo

The universe is infinite ? These dumbf.u.cks make bold claims that can make one fall sick instanta . There is no proof the universe is infinite

The LHC in Geneva is said to be now operating at its highest level in a bid to detect miniature black holes, which could help to if there is a 'multiverse' - this could be only possible since the universe is finite

CoolUsername:
I'm sure you haven't studied physics enough to disprove Hawking's postulates.

Neither have you . Bro you are an engineer

Oh really? Plants came before the sun? Right? You're telling that is what science says? Well, you're just lying.

You are a baby in theology , so what do you know ? I can't stress your brain to understand the creation story . You can choose to hold any misconception if that's what accommodates your unbelief

You created a rule that everything must come from something why terminate it at that point?

Eternal consciousness and intelligence that's why

I'll tell you why, it's to hide you're weak argument. Ok, what provided self awareness in your god?

Wake me up when you understand what eternal consciousness means

That's one possibility, energy has not been destroyed yet as far as physicists know. But wouldn't it be straight-up asinine to assume some god did it?

God is conscious energy

Christianity discourages critical thinking which is an inherent aspect of science. The period of time were christianity was at its peak is called the Dark Ages for a reason.

2 Timothy 2:15

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Christianity discourages critical thinking ? Yet the greatest minds are God believers .

Its called Dark Ages because history was lost or historical events were unknown not because of religion . Pick a book or something .

Don't supress the spread actual peer-reviewed science for a bunch of fairytales.

Sharap . So the argument will end with expressing your faith in science ?

CoolUsername:
Christianity is preying on weak minds because it relies on the indoctrination of young minds to follow a specific pattern of belief. There's no room for change or doubt or for skepticism.

I just don't think that a god exists, if you want me to believe, show some good evidence.

If he's omnipotent why doesn't he do anything? Why does he have to reveal himself through an outdated book? Why do his followers reject scientific facts such as evolution? Why has he let his name be a source of violence and misery throughout history? Why does he work in mysterious and ineffectual ways? Why does carbon dating contradict his word?

Why? Why? Why?

Your sense of reasoning is so medieval . From how far Ive gone with my knowledge of the bible , I cant express the excitement I feel with the way you make yourself look just dumb in your bid to discredit God's efforts .

I'm sure very knowledgeable Christians are laughing at this .

God did it . Science explains how