₦airaland Forum

Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?

Tolexander:
Everyone has a right to say what ever pleases one.

I still remember Guantanamo bay, has it been finally closed down by US?

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

nwakibie3:
Since the judiciary is corrupt and their judgment based on the law cannot be obeyed, I think the PDP governors, PDP senators and house of Rep members that were sacked by the same judiciary that is corrupt should not obey the judgment and retain their seats. Yes naw

nwakibie3:
Please enlighten me; can u travel out of a country without a passport?

excellence44:
WHY WOULD HE OBEY COURT ORDER WHEN HE SAID JUDGES ARE CORRUPT?

" Dasuki is accused, among other things, of diverting $2.2 billion
meant to buy arms to fight the Boko Haram Islamic uprising.
Three courts have ordered his release on bail."


2019 is just by the corner.

Timbuktou:
Common sense should tell you he travelled with a fake or unknown one.

Super1Star:
They simply lack the knowledge of the workings of the Presidential System of governance.

With an Executive Order, the President is within his right to over rule the Judge, most especially when it concerns National Security. The 2 cases involve National Security.

The Nation is bigger than any individual and the president swore to protect the I Teresa of the nation no that of looters and of terrorists and would-be terrorists.

plaetton:
The most pathetic piece of nonsense I have seen today.

During the last 15 years of Nigerian's democracy, no person was detained for freedom of speech, talkless of treason, despite all the national security challenges that the past administrations endured.

In fact, let me refresh your memory, that it was this same Buhari, yes, this Buhari, that chided GEJ for not looking into the GRIEVANCES of BOKO HARAM.
Have we forgotten soo soon?
Selective amnesia , perhaps

Today, you think we should sacrifice freedom and the rule of law, seperations of powers, just for nebulous security?
Security from a harmless civilian, whose only weapon is his voice and forceful opinion ?

You're either very very ignorant or very very
disingenuous.

" Those who sacrifice freedom for security will not have, and neither do they deserve both ".
--Thomas Jefferson.

Demdem:
I am happy I Av a very strong leader for president unlike the weak fool we booted out.
Fools just don't get it do they. These criminals were re arrested for another crime they committed and not the one before the judge that made him grant them bail.
Dasuki for instance was granted bail for possession of weapons and granted bail. He was rearrested and fools were shouting Blue murder not knowing that the crook has much more criminal acts of his he will answer for.
I like Buhari methodology, especially for these serial Crooks.
Dokpesi was granted bail, wasn't he allowed to go?
Tambuwal was granted bail and was allowed etc these ones don't have additional crimes hanging on their head but Dasuki, kanu, and that NIMASA thug has hundreds of charges that can be levelled against them. They aren't going anywhere soon.
Sai Baba.

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

nwakibie3:
Then they should tell us plain that he has fake passport (DSS/Buhari spokesman)

micayo:
First, in developed nation, there has to be concrete evidence against a defendant which is what the corruption fighter have been able to provide before the court of law. If the evidence are strong I see no way the suspect would not be reprimanded and sentenced to condemnation since the President himself is even 'sugar coating' fighting against corruption and he is one of the prosecutor in this cases but failure to produce this evidence is why they keep losing in court and one thing they should work on which means it is either their fault or these people are wrongly accused.

When a case goes to court, it is for the court and the judge to decide and if he/she grants bail, then so be it but all we see in Nigeria is the reverse and a reminder that we have an 'autocrat' and 'undemocratic' president.

Kanu case might be unconstitutional to an extent but he's been granted bail by the court and 'honour' should be given to the court. He would be found guilty of some and innocent of some since his cause his widely supported but he took the wrong way in fighting. Let there be a referendum and let it be sorted out.

Hypocrisy doesn't pay and I see you to be an hypocrite of the highest order.

akthedream:
Pained.....well,tthe Sun newapaper has return the #9 milliion they got from your Hero Gej...
That's atleast covers the #50 ...he pain am...hehehehe

alexlee50:
your write up is lengthy and would have made a good academic discussion but your argument is not sound. Let me start with the Nnamdi kanu, it is the only the courts that can pronounce kanu guilty of the offence he is being charged with. Two courts have granted him bail and the executive is disobeying the order of the courts, and you think this is right? What happened to the rule of law? What happened to the right of the citizen as guaranteed in the Constitution of one being presumed innocent until he is convicted by the court. I do not want to go into the issue of kanu engaging in terrorist activities as only the courts would determine the guilt or innocence of kanu and this would based on the burden of proof which the prosecution has against him. If the prosecution has a good case against him whether he is granted bail or not would have no effect on the final outcome of the case. However disobedience to courts portends a grave danger to our democracy. As the gains and the independence of the judiciary in the last few would be greatly undermined. This could pose a great danger to our fledging democracy. On the dasuki issue, a number of issues are not within the public domain for us to pass a judgement. But on the dokpesi, the prosecution has no case. It would fail in court. Let's look at the facts in issue. Was dokpesi given a contract, the answer is yes. Did he execute the contract, the answer is yes. If perhaps he didn't execute a case of fraudulent conversion/stealing by conversion, obtaining by false pretenses could have been established against dokpesi. But in this case he executed it. Is it dokpesi 's duty to verify the account which government would use in paying him? The answer to that is no, as he is not a staff of government. Is it dokpesi' s duty to check if the job given to him passes through the procurement process? No, as he is not a staff of government. Those charges are defective. On the overall it is the burden evidence which the prosecution has against the accused that would determine their guilt or innocence. No one can perform magic with the facts of a case. The rule of law should be allowed to prevail

omenka:
How many Gitmo inmates has the government of US released on orders from her courts?? As a matter of fact, how many of the inmates have seen the insides of a court room since detention??

Nnamumudi Kalluu will rot in jail like those terrorists in Gitmo and heavens won't fall, just like it didn't in the US.

Curlieweed:
First, Gitmo isn't technically part of the US. That's the reason the detainees were kept there. It creates the required environment to keep them in legal limbo (or purgatory if you want).

Secondly, none of the Gitmo detainee is a US citizen.

In this case these people are Nigerians held on Nigerian soil but some criminals in power refuse to obey the simple principles of separation of powers and the rule of law. You can't enforce the law by breaking the law. That kind of arbitrary abuse of power is a pure recipe for anarchy .

I'm not in anyway surprised by all this. Anybody could have predicted that the Mumuharri , the Daura President is too daft to understand how an orderly modern society works.

Enjoy your change ! E no concern me.

omenka:
How many Gitmo inmates has the government of US released on orders from her courts?? As a matter of fact, how many of the inmates have seen the insides of a court room since detention??

Nnamumudi Kalluu will rot in jail like those terrorists in Gitmo and heavens won't fall, just like it didn't in the US.

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami

laskilala:
albino and e-war lord, heaven will fall. because one thing i discover about these stupid country of yours is that they like begging and never learn from history, yusuf was killed and boko haram has littered all the street of the northern states, still that did not teach your FG any lesson, today ua strong army is begging for amnesty and ua number one citizen is begging the said terrorist to come for negotiation. today, another situation is towing the same line and ua oga on top can not learn from previous scenarious and he is busy romancing his egos. my little advice to him is to ask his predecessors how it all ended for them. before fools like u will still come to these forum to ask IPOB to beg for amnesty,

afanide:
So you are among those calling Nigeria a Zoo?

From 2day I seize to follow you. No offense please!

omenka:
How many Gitmo inmates has the government of US released on orders from her courts?? As a matter of fact, how many of the inmates have seen the insides of a court room since detention??

Nnamumudi Kalluu will rot in jail like those terrorists in Gitmo and heavens won't fall, just like it didn't in the US.

arresa:
He was granted bail and was rearrested based on new criminal charges filed in the same court that granted him bail so what's your point really?

Honor was given to the court because he's not under arrest based on the facts already set aside by the judge that necessitated the bail.

He's still under arrest based on new criminal charges so his lawyers are free to seek another bail hearing and options.

lastmanstandn:
Buhari, Our National Interest and Court Orders
A step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity that we voted Jonathan out for.
Nigerians are very forgetful of the past. Nigeria, under the watch of the Fmr President, could not successful keep terror suspects in custody because prosecutors failed to prepare a case. We had a system where court orders and injunctions stalled corruption cases and made a mockery of our fight to defeat corruption and insecurity across the country. This time, we have an executive that is willing to stretch its constitutional powers to keep Nigeria safe and recoup stolen fund, yet we're starting to paint the President as a dictator.

Kanu is a threat to our national security. In advanced societies, suspects are detained for issues as trivial as traffic offence to keep them in custody while a stronger case is put together, why must Nigeria be different? Societies with strong intelligence communities engage whatever means is takes to keep terrorists and extremists out of circulation, must ours be different? Indeed, there are global concerns with regards to ethical issues in national security and intelligence activities of nations; developing countries should not be singled out as if we are the only ones involved in such. Indeed, the primary responsibility of government is to ensure its people live neither in fear of terrorism, external aggression nor poverty and other factors that undermine their peace and safety while it also sustains the fundamental rights of its people. However, many advanced nations have passed through periods of national crisis when liberties were exchanged for greater security, the balance between both being restored after such crisis, and Nigeria is at that point right now.

Within the last 10-15 years, advanced nations have defied international charters against enhanced interrogation techniques, illegal rendition, detention without trial and all sort of measures all for the sake of national security. We have not resorted to this yet you're starting to paint us as bad. We have not rendered our terror suspects to Niger, as you did render yours to Egypt for torture, we have not built illegal detention facilities in Chad, as you've done in Cuba, Kanu has not accused our security agents of subjecting him to waterboarding as you've done to many of yours, so what is the fury about? We understand you did what was necessary for the safety of innocent people, just as President Buhari is doing the same. Nnamdi Kanu's illegal entrance into the country with equipment for the purpose of undermining our national security is enough to get us worried, and get a responsible President to act.

On the NIMASA ex-DG and Arms thieves, I doubt if there is any law in Nigeria or anywhere in the world that restrains the authorities from re-arresting a suspect on different charges after he/she has been granted bail on others. Hence, we do not have to blame the President for identifying measures within our laws to use against corrupt public office holders just to keep them from jumping bail. We had a soft-spoken, gentle-looking President whose lame duck attitude cost us $2.1 billion meant for the war on terror and drove us where we are today, but we have moved on. Now we have a stronger, more willing leader in President Buhari and the best we can do is support him to do whatever is right and just to keep us on the path of prosperity and security again.

As Nigerians we must understand that security is a collective task that requires the mutual cooperation of every citizen, and the understanding that our liberties will not be compromised as long as we remain law abiding and do not act in ways that endanger others, as Dasuki Sambo and his partners are alleged to have done to our soldiers and our countrymen up North. We need to understand that a man that literally sneaked into the country using unconventional methods can sneak out using same methods; that we lack the intelligence capability to keep tabs on all suspects, and just like in past cases, corrupt public office holders may escape justice by choosing not to return to Nigeria if they are allowed to pursue whatever medical excuses abroad and extradition is not as easy as it appears. We are protected as law-abiding citizens, and we have in President Buhari what we have always desired, a strong man with great political will to frustrate corrupt public office holders, a step below President Buhari's present level of high-handedness only brings us back to the era of impunity.

@ijigbami