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If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 3:49pm On Jan 02, 2016
Yes, Think. If you create thinks, will you give them Freewill ?

Give them the ability to disobey you and insult you if they so wish, acting contrary. Will you build such a capacity into the things you create?

And why should you do such?

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Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by marshalcarter: 3:54pm On Jan 02, 2016
That is why GOD is GOD and can never be a man.....he's a merciful GOD

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Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 3:58pm On Jan 02, 2016
Relate that to the one that gave humans Freewill and how we use it in relation to the one that gave us Freewill.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 4:01pm On Jan 02, 2016
marshalcarter:
That is why GOD is GOD and can never be a man.....he's a merciful GOD

Thank you for your comment.

Pls, endeavor to answer the question first. will you give Freewill or, you will not give Freewill to your creatures.

Thank you.

Peace.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by marshalcarter: 4:03pm On Jan 02, 2016
truthislight:


Thank you for your comment.

Pls, endeavor to answer the question first. will you give Freewill or, you will not give Freewill to your creatures.

Thank you.

Peace.
GOD is a merciful GOD cheesy
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by paulGrundy(m): 4:22pm On Jan 02, 2016
truthislight:


Thank you for your comment.

Pls, endeavor to answer the question first. will you give Freewill or, you will not give Freewill to your creatures.

Thank you.

Peace.

Truthislight/BERNIMORE,
I will give them freewill. By the way what happened to your other monicker BERNIMORE? Its no longer active in the religious section.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 7:35pm On Jan 02, 2016
Thinking people feels it is irrational for you to design your phone to have another ideas from your intention for having a phone, hence,they say 'Freewill' is not what they think they will give.

What do think?
Will you give Freewill to your creatures if you have to decide on it?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 7:38pm On Jan 02, 2016
I can't help imagining having my phone and wish to make a call and my phone wish for just games. lol. I wander what will become of that phone in no time. Seriously.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 7:43pm On Jan 02, 2016
paulGrundy:



I will give them freewill.

.

If that is your take, why will you do such? Give Freewill?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 7:44pm On Jan 02, 2016
paulGrundy:


By the way what happened to your other monicker BERNIMORE?


.

I Am Not Bernimore.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jan 02, 2016
of course......................................
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 7:50pm On Jan 02, 2016
SirWere:
of course......................................

Of course what?

Please, state your stand clearly and give your reasons for it.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by Nobody: 8:06pm On Jan 02, 2016
Were I to create a universe in which personoid beings resembling me exist, I would of course have no choice but to "bless" them with the quality of free will, for such is the only way they can ever be differentiated from a random anima of moving atoms....



And before you use this analogy to explain the existence of God, I would also create enough food for them, take an active role in their lives and generally pop up in the sky once a while or create a phenomenon which defies their lawsundecidedundecidedundecided
truthislight:


Of course what?

Please, state your stand clearly and give your reasons for it.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by paulGrundy(m): 9:09pm On Jan 02, 2016
truthislight:


I Am Not Bernimore.

Yeah, same way my grand mother is a virgin.

grin cheesy

Lemme mistakenly open a jwfacts.com thread, and see BERNIMORE swing into full action. cheesy grin cheesy
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by paulGrundy(m): 9:15pm On Jan 02, 2016
truthislight:


If that is your take, why will you do such? Give Freewill?

Freewill would help them explore the world and discover things I never imagined.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by jayriginal: 12:45am On Jan 03, 2016
How can it be free will if you punish certain choices?

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Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 12:55am On Jan 03, 2016
You have expressed your own wishes, but what will be your reasons for doing such?

There are aspects of the gift of Freewill you have not yet considered, how the knowledge that this creatures can and will turn against you is a possibility and the reason you will still proceed to endowed them all the same. Why?

In a world that is full of control freak, am still asking how rational is that?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:00am On Jan 03, 2016
jayriginal:
How can it be free will if you punish certain choices?

Well, the question is on you, will you endowed Your creatures with Freewill?

Why should that make sense to you?

Why would you set out on a seeming collision course?

Is such practical in our world today?

Why is doing such rational?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:12am On Jan 03, 2016
SirWere:
Were I to create a universe in which personoid beings resembling me exist, I would of course have no choice but to "bless" them with the quality of free will, for such is the only way they can ever be differentiated from a random anima of moving atoms....



And before you use this analogy to explain the existence of God, I would also create enough food for them, take an active role in their lives and generally pop up in the sky once a while or create a phenomenon which defies their lawsundecidedundecidedundecided

And should you have a purpose for creating such a universe, explain why the giving of Freewill should be a process of attaining your goals absolutely.

Why should such a gift be part of your plans?

Why should giving of such a gift be more effective in attaining your goals compared to not giving?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by jayriginal: 1:16am On Jan 03, 2016
truthislight:


Well, the question is on you, will you endowed Your creatures with Freewill?

Why should that make sense to you?

Why would you set out on a seeming collision course?

Is such practical in our world today?

Why is doing such rational?

If I did grant my creatures with freewill, I wouldn't punish them for choices they make.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:19am On Jan 03, 2016
jayriginal:


If I did grant my creatures with freewill, I wouldn't punish them for choices they make.

Still haven't answered the question and why it is a better option for you.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:23am On Jan 03, 2016
paulGrundy:


Freewill would help them explore the world and discover things I never imagined.

Why will YOU want to give your creatures Freewill?
(not what it will do to them).
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:33am On Jan 03, 2016
Why should giving of such a gift be an option to consider by you the giver?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by paulGrundy(m): 7:06am On Jan 03, 2016
truthislight:


Why will YOU want to give your creatures Freewill?
(not what it will do to them).

paulGrundy: :


Freewill would help them explore the world and discover things I never imagined.

I have already provided the answer to your question.
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by Nobody: 7:49am On Jan 03, 2016
Why would I create such a universe? Because I can! I would create such a universe because It will surely lead to scientific progress and if I were a touch vain, to use it to brag about my prowess
truthislight:


And should you have a purpose for creating such a universe,
Like I said before, I would have no choice but to give them free will for it is only that way that their lives are worth living, without it, they are no different from robots. And also, I have no "plans"! It's just gonna be fun to watch them progress, even if they annoy me sometimes
explain why the giving of Freewill should be a process of attaining your goals absolutely.

Why should such a gift be part of your plans?

Why should giving of such a gift be more effective in attaining your goals compared to not giving?

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Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by Toyolad(m): 12:18pm On Jan 03, 2016
YES!!! ..If I'm to create a robot or animal or whatever is-not-me, I wouldn't have to gift the. with the freewill that I possess, consequently, I would just program them to behave as I want.

But, if I'm to create a being like myself, a being I will love and would want the love to be replicated, then I would create a being with freewill, a programmed being is incapable of loving and I don't think anyone can forcefully love someone. so for my purpose, which is to create a being to love, to care for in a somewhat lonely universe, I would want that being to genuinely replicate the love that made me create a being like myself....just my thought tho, all nah love issue!!
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 12:54pm On Jan 03, 2016
paulGrundy:




I have already provided the answer to your question.

Your answer stated what it will do to your creatures. That it will help 'them' explore....

But your reason why has not been addressed.

Eg:
Is it as a result of your interest or lack of it in them that will prompt such a gift even at the possibility of lost of control?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:06pm On Jan 03, 2016
SirWere:
Why would I create such a universe? Because I can! I would create such a universe because It will surely lead to scientific progress and if I were a touch vain, to use it to brag about my prowess
Like I said before, I would have no choice but to give them free will for it is only that way that their lives are worth living, without it, they are not different from robots. And also, I have no "plans"! It's just gonna be fun to watch them progress, even if they annoy me sometimes

Good! ^

Which is supposed to serve my goals better?

Does giving of Freewill really makes business sense? Will it bring more returns on my interest?

Why should I sacrifice that much, pull that much risk at my own detriment?

I just wonder!

Won't robots serving my 'WILL' give me a 110% maximum return without hassles!

Why should 'I' give such to them?

Altruism?

It is easier saying such here, in real life, do we hate or love to be in control?

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Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by bxcode(m): 1:14pm On Jan 03, 2016
If am creating something in my own image I will definitely give it freewill. But lemme ask you this Op, what will you do when after creating something and that thing out of freewill and the ability to mess things up that you gave it, decides to challenge you or rebel against you the creator, what will you do if you are a god?
will you fold your arms and allow some few creation of yours to poison the entirety of your creation with rebellion and chaos against you?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:20pm On Jan 03, 2016
bxcode:
If am creating something in my own image I will definitely give it freewill. But lemme ask you this Op, what will you do when after creating something and that thing out of freewill and the ability to mess things up that you gave it, decides to challenge you or rebel against you the creator, what will you do if you are a god?
will you fold your arms and allow some few creation of yours to poison the entirety of your creation with rebellion and chaos against you?

I have not stated that I will give Freewill!!!!!

The Above is one of the reason am here asking this question.

So, you, will you give Freewill?
Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by bxcode(m): 1:26pm On Jan 03, 2016
truthislight:

I have not stated that I will give Freewill!!!!!
The Above is one of the reason am here asking this question.
So, you, will you give Freewill?
You already know my answer.

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Re: If You Had Been The One Creating Things, Humans, Will You Had Given 'freewill' ? by truthislight: 1:31pm On Jan 03, 2016
Toyolad:
YES!!! ..If I'm to create a robot or animal or whatever is-not-me, I wouldn't have to give them. with the freewill that I possess, consequently, I would just program them to behave as I want.

But, if I'm to create a being like myself, a being I will love and would want the love to be replicated, then I would create a being with freewill, a programmed being is incapable of loving and I don't think anyone can forcefully love someone. so for my purpose, which is to create a being to love, to care for in a somewhat lonely universe, I would want that being to genuinely replicate the love that made me create a being like myself....just my thought tho, all nah love issue!!

To me, the one on red I can relate with, since lost of control is a terrible thing.

Why should I create and give my capacity to another? you are on your own. Maybe when I know I will soon die that I will what to have someone that can seek for my throne.

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