₦airaland Forum

menacetosociety:
Religion is bullshi.t

No, it is not. The problem is that those in charge of religious practices like imams and pastors have abused it. So blame it on the people not religion per se

FOODIC:
summary:: morality is doing what is right irrespective of what yu r told....but religion is doing what yu ar told irespective of what is wrong


happy sunday nairalanders

and how do you determine what is right?

modath:
My spouse & i were having this same convo just before i came across this thread!!

I can tell you for a fact, despite not being in church (family road trip) that the sermon today is going to be about giving & it will remain so till end of march...

All in a bid to prime the weak hearted to part with a full month's salary in the name of "first fruit offering" .. can't form queen kong & say i haven't fallen in the past but I'm wiser now... I give my "tithes & seeds" to people in real need (without fail), only put enough in the offering bag to cover Generators & sundries...

I can't point to one charity my home church is actively contributing to, neither are there any kind of CSR we are a part of !! I also am not ready to fund anyone's opulent lifestyle neither am i interested in stadium like worship auditoriums..

Been "advised" to stop going to church cos of my numerous "questions & complaints" but that won't happen cos i can't front my own , & i need to belong someplace, moreover the empiricist haven't been able to win their own argument either....

It's your money; spend it as wisely as you can.

Last year, the issue of first fruits came up and I didn't support it at all....All those crap belongs in the Jewish religion but someone we've gullible allowed ourselves to be scammed in the name of religion. I give to the needy not the greedy........
My dear, we won't stop questioning these issues.
I'm done with mindless religion.

I wonder what would happen to religion if we ever discovered intelligent life on mars or jupiter?

erusen:
so in a null shell the prof want every soul on earth to be athiest?

No, you must be able to defend the concept 1st before talking about the practices. You must be able to defend why being a lawyer is a good thing before talking about how to be a lawyer. And that is the problem with religion most ptactitioners cant defend it without resirting to scriptures. it's a classic case of brainwashing.

Yomieluv:
So true,many people are blinded by religion.

Imagine a pastor said I should give a month salary to God,without removing a dime.

I asked myself,how will I survive for one month without money.

I stopped the church.

Will the pastor feed me for one month?

You Sir, do not have faith at all. Faith would have fed you for that one month.

Any system that forbids the utilisation of your mind should be abandoned immediately.

I concur with the Prof. Niyi

The bible says "the blessings of God maketh rich and added no sorrow" but in Nigeria that scripture seems not to be true because of our collective ineptitude in rational and critical thinking.

God (in Isaiah) even called us to sovereign conference to "reason together", how many Nigerians turn up?

We as a people detest questions, especially, that touches our belief system

You can speak as much as you want against religion so long you don't deny the righteousness that comes with believing in Christ's atoning work on the cross.

Christianity is not religion but faith in Christ.

dikeigbo2:
Just listen to yourself, you need data,you need proff to believe what he has just said,well you are the most vulnerable in the aforementioned issue,what the prof said is the XYZ of problems facing all the over religious countries the world over,
Christianity is not a religion, but a way of life, living the way Christ lived.

Religious life is a scam.while Christian life is an atitude.......in Antioch they were called Christians,because of the impeccable life of Christ they lived......pls get me corrected if there is any!!!!!

I have more than 10years training as a scientist, it doesn't change my position about God. The root of this article is atheism and this is evident in his submission about miracles. That said, anyone can make a claim but to be regarded as a statement of fact, you have to give empirical backing, where this is not, the opinion is subjective at best.

That religion has a eroded the logical reasoning of Nigerians is a serious claim, irrespective of our personal opinions(which cant be same), you have to give verifiable empirical facts to support that assertion.

Reason why our politicians still God and act wicked at the same time...such hypocrisy is so pathetic..

RealSleek:
I'm nt saying belief in God is a crime...all I'm saying is u cant rationalise it, it doesn't make sense to a rational mind

and who told u that it can not be rationalize,they say one food is anoda man poison.people have different belief system.u cant call other people irrational becus they dont belief what u believe.am not the argueing type,but i think peeps should to accomodates other people belief.it is stupid to u is as simple as abc,stay clear from it but calling 5.8 billion worldwide irrational becus they are not like you is like a drinking man talking

Bollinger:
I wonder what would happen to religion if we ever discovered intelligent life on mars or jupiter?

My fingers are crossed while you're at it. You might want to try the Milky Way also for those green thing you've fantasized about for decades.

Sadly this is TRUE!

Culture too!

Too many sentiments in our decisions

dearpreye:
It's your money; spend it as wisely as you can.

Last year, the issue of first fruits came up and I didn't support it at all....All those crap belongs in the Jewish religion but someone we've gullible allowed ourselves to be scammed in the name of religion. I give to the needy not the greedy........
My dear, we won't stop questioning these issues.
I'm done with mindless religion.

You may not like this but I think the fault can be traced to your doorstep.

Yomieluv:
So true,many people are blinded by religion.

Imagine a pastor said I should give a month salary to God,without removing a dime.

I asked myself,how will I survive for one month without money.

I stopped the church.

Will the pastor feed me for one month?

be fool to enjoy fullness of God. Dont ask how

The prof have some element of truth in what he said. Religion only permits what services it. Christians are too lazy to seek God on their own privately and discover his ways, they run after signs and wonders and Keep getting bamboozled in the process by fake prophets and pastors. Apostle Paul warned against this in one his epistles to the early churches, and if go and study them today, you will think that Paul just wrote the letter to our modern churches recently. I can't allow someone tell me about God to the point that am just a spectator of the whole debacle, I want to also tell people about God too in spirit and in truth and that's why my bible is alive to guide me when it comes to the deep things of God through the help of the holy spirit.
Know God for yourself and have a personal relationship with him, that's the hallmark of a true Christian.

I agree

donofdons:
[size=18pt]i am happy someone is coming out to say this....religion is really the greatest problem faced by africans and the world today....a man sees what is true and proven and chooses to believe in things that are imaginary. We already have a whatspp group of humanists and freethinkers in nigeria...just add me and i will contact you if you wanna join us to move humanity forward..thanks[/size]

I would like to join sir.

Blured:
Nobody hears or see any God. Anybody who claims to do such, is showing an early sign of serious bipolar psychosis disorder known as schizophrenia and can lead to a full blown mania if not treated in time.

It a situation where you hear voices that that are not really there and you feel it's from God. It is accompanied with the delution of having the ability to do impossible things like casting out demons and healing the sick. Majority of those who sufferes from the disorder see themselves as god. It is cause by stress aggravated from activities like praying for long hours and not feeding well.

Over 3% of the total population in the US are suffering from it and believe me millions of nigerians are also suffering from it without knowing because they fill themselves with the thoughts that the voices is coming from God.

If you see anyone claiming he can hear God's voice,please save a human life by advising him to see a psychiatrist so that it doesn't turn worse.

And who told you psychiatrists too don't hear His voice?

People let's make this trend
#LeaveReligionForChurch !

The Prof is an Atheist. He need prayer, YOU CANT ENJOY THE FULLNESS OF GOD IF YOU ARE NOT Fool.

NORAD:
My fingers are crossed while you're at it. You might want to try the Milky Way also for those green thing you've fantasized for decades.

Lol. . .It is always beneficial to read and apply knowledge. There is no point in educating oneself if one will still be following the norm. Back in the day, the church burned anyone at the stake for even suggesting that the earth was round. Same with curing most diseases. It was termed witchcraft. Later, it was said that it was impossible to visit the stars. People are now living in space stations, up there and are now taking applications from people who would want to be the first to go to mars and live there forever. It is a one way trip. This galaxy is huge bro's. As history has told us countless times, nothing is impossible where science is involved. It is only in Nigeria that it is impossible because we are still living in the pre caveman era.

darugged:
I keep saying the same thing religion is one problem that is affecting our country ... The rate at which pastors are exploiting its members one day in the nearest future nigeria will turn to europe where they dont believe in God, what's happening today in nigeria once happened in europe where the clergies were the richest and most influential, but today what happened, their love for riches made the people become wise, if our religious leaders dont caution their love for money one day africa will become europe and God will hold all our clergymen responsible

You are making sensible points but you are making the points sound like it's a bad thing that will happen whereas it's a good thing when the PEOPLE FINALLY BECOME WISE !

Niyeal:
be fool to enjoy fullness of God. Dont ask how

The fullness of God dosent't come by giving tithe to God or through some religious doctrines and laws, the fullness of God comes from knowing who God is and allowing Christ to dwell in your heart by faith, rooted in and grounded in love. Your tithe without knowing who God is by revelation which the holy spirit gives profiteth you absolutely nothing.

Ruq:
It has Killed more than That. I sometimes thinks it stunts intelligence, but to those who really understand, it is needed in a society despite its shortcomings.

It is not needed. Don't make an excuse for mediocrity.

lookandlaff:
No, you must be able to defend the concept 1st before talking about the practices. You must be able to defend why being a lawyer is a good thing before talking about how to be a lawyer. And that is the problem with religion most ptactitioners cant defend it without resirting to scriptures. it's a classic case of brainwashing.

u didnt answer my question.i think i like reading the bible it boost the quality of my life,makes me a better,gives me morals.so when it comes to defend christainity esspecially the one in niger i cannot,becus it is has destroyed our lives why,becus the large population are illetrates,that my dear is the governments fault.nigeria religion are prying on illetrates to get rich that should be our topic.well the bible is their standard for the lives,so they cant do without it.but i cant call brainwashing becus that is what oxfold dictionary define as faith.the evidence of this not seen

kevoh:
You are making sensible points but you are making the points sound like it's a bad thing that will happen whereas it's a good thing when the PEOPLE FINALLY BECOME WISE !

I swear the post confuse me sef.

Kachisbarbie:
Very true.
That's how somebody's half tank dried up in less than 10km after his car was hijacked...

That one was a big mystery to me. I'm not among those who believed that. Not one bit.

superior1:
Nonsense remains so even if spoken by a distinguished scholar. Does the acclaimed intellectual have any empirical data to back his claim, can he show us any verified research that support his claims

The Prof is a fool

Sorry sir, but you are the proof.

MathsChic:
It is not needed. Don't make an excuse for mediocrity.

why dont u kill 5.8 billion people,and dont call other people belief mediocrity.the internet is making the world small,do u know who big the world is.

erusen:
u didnt answer my question.i think i like reading the bible it boost the quality of my life,makes me a better,gives me morals.so when it comes to defend christainity esspecially the one in niger i cannot,becus it is has destroyed our lives why,becus the large population are illetrates,that my dear is the governments fault.nigeria religion are prying on illetrates to get rich that should be our topic.well the bible is their standard for the lives,so they cant do without it.but i cant call brainwashing becus that is what oxfold dictionary define as faith.the evidence of this not seen

I beleive I did, i said no. In anything one does one must know why he does it and you dont have to prove yourself to another man especially on the issue of faith, it's a personal thing. I like the reasons you gave....because it works for you. If it boosts the quality of your life then that's a valid reason. What I was saying id that a lot of people dont even know why they do what they do and when you question their religion they resort to quoting scripture