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Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 4:01pm On Nov 11, 2015
I have thought of several headings to give this "epistle" and decided on this one. Ordinarily, I would have done this in the Romance section, but I would prefer to get more matured responses concerning the topic. (no offence to Romancelanders).

I met this girl some years back. She is Igbira. Also a Muslim. Before we met, I was in a relationship of about 9 years. Although we had broken up once before and came back together. This girl I was dating before meeting this Igbira girl was perfect in all aspects. In short, she was too perfect i.e. if there is anything like that. She cooked well, was super beautiful, respected every member of my family...especially my parents and siblings. In short, we were the perfect couple to be; and our walking down the aisle was just a matter of when we decided to. I was someone her siblings and her mum regarded as 'The One.' She was also someone I could beat my chest and vouch for as regards decency and up rightness.

Through all these years we never had sex. We decided we were going to wait till when we got married. Although, I had flings, several flings and had sex whenever I wanted to. Over the years though, the relationship became very, very boring to me. I tried, I know I did. I tried to spice things up. But the more I tried, the more everything became boring and at some point, I was beginning to get irritated by her. But I endured all these. Not for anything, but because I knew leaving her would break most people's heart, especially my mum's. And maybe I couldn't summon the courage yet because I was still under my dad's roof. They still had considerable control over me.

After leaving NYSC in November, 2012; I got a job in Feb., 2013. That is when I met the Igbira girl. She was a complete opposite of my girlfriend. She was very, very lively...full of life. Extremely intelligent and talented. She also had amazing foresight.

After getting a job, I started getting a steady in flow of money. And as the money came, so it left. I spent without having any plan. After all, I wasn't paying rent and wasn't buying food...so, what the heck! My girlfriend too didn't see anything wrong with all of that. I guess she loved it too. Who wouldn't? But everything changed when I started becoming close to this Igbira girl. She also had a boyfriend then, so it was just platonic. After about 2 months of our meeting, she broke up with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend said his parents told him they will not accept her as a wife. So, she had to let go. She was devastated...and my shoulders were there to cry on.

After a while, our closeness came to a head and my girlfriend started asking questions. I had to lie on every single occasion to cover up. It is worthy to note that my girlfriend was the typical "Coming to America" wife that was presented to Akeem. I can't remember any quarrel we had throughout all those years. But this other lady was different. I think from then till now we have quarrelled more times than I had with my girlfriend. And this other lady is no where to be compared in terms of beauty. But what she didn't have facially, she made up for it with her intellect.

After a while, I couldn't take the lying anymore and decided to break up with my girlfriend. I guess it didn't come as a surprise to her because she saw it coming. The only people who didn't were my friends and family. My mum was devastated, still is. A family meeting was called and I was summoned. At this point I wasn't living with my parents anymore. This Igbira lady had pushed me, almost to a point of quarrelling to cultivate the habit of saving most of my income. In short, I achieved more in a very short time of being with her. She would push, plan, budget, plan, plan and plan. My people on the hand were furious, my mom was convinced that I was under a charm and she made sure almost everyone heard her out. I received calls from home and abroad asking me why I would act in such a foolish manner. I stopped picking my calls at some point.

After a few months, everything became a little quiet. And we became inseparable. But then she started whispering about marriage. Which I was already thinking of. But then, the religious question was one we couldn't find an answer to. She tried to convince me though, tried to tell me and show me the beauty of Islam. I, on the other hand, tried to show her the beauty of Christianity. After a while, we decided to set a deadline for ourselves. If there was no solution then, we would just call it quits. That was when I decided to shift grounds. I was now ready for the both of us to remain where we wanted to be (even though it goes against everything I believe in). Still, she refused to budge. According to her, her religion was the most important thing to her. And if she looses it, she would have lost part of herself.

Now I knew my parents were probably going to disown me if I had brought up the idea of marriage to someone who was not only an Igbira, but also a Muslim. But I decided that my happiness was utmost. But one thing I failed to grasp was how she on the other hand, didn't even think of taking risks. She claimed if I loved her enough, I should be able to make that sacrifice for her. But the question I kept asking her was, why can't you also make the sacrifice for me?

After a while, we called it quits. It hurt like cray. Still does. I find it hard to concentrate a times. I have done several things to get her off my mind, but none has worked thus far. I just decided to put this down today, even though some people I don't want seeing this might. And I don't fancy doing the anonymous thingy.

I don't believe I was "jazzed." Although I have never missed anyone like this before. I guess in the end, religion and tribe won out. Probably what I deserved!
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by deeptesting(m): 5:03pm On Nov 11, 2015
zicoraads:
I have thought of several headings to give this "epistle" and decided on this one. Ordinarily, I would have done this in the Romance section, but I would prefer to get more matured responses concerning the topic. (no offence to Romancelanders).

I met this girl some years back. She is Igbira. Also a Muslim. Before we met, I was in a relationship of about 9 years. Although we had broken up once before and came back together. This girl I was dating before meeting this Igbira girl was perfect in all aspects. In short, she was too perfect i.e. if there is anything like that. She cooked well, was super beautiful, respected every member of my family...especially my parents and siblings. In short, we were the perfect couple to be; and our walking down the aisle was just a matter of when we decided to. I was someone her siblings and her mum regarded as 'The One.' She was also someone I could beat my chest and vouch for as regards decency and up rightness.

Through all these years we never had sex. We decided we were going to wait till when we got married. Although, I had flings, several flings and had sex whenever I wanted to. Over the years though, the relationship became very, very boring to me. I tried, I know I did. I tried to spice things up. But the more I tried, the more everything became boring and at some point, I was beginning to get irritated by her. But I endured all these. Not for anything, but because I knew leaving her would break most people's heart, especially my mum's. And maybe I couldn't summon the courage yet because I was still under my dad's roof. They still had considerable control over me.

After leaving NYSC in November, 2012; I got a job in Feb., 2013. That is when I met the Igbira girl. She was a complete opposite of my girlfriend. She was very, very lively...full of life. Extremely intelligent and talented. She also had amazing foresight.

After getting a job, I started getting a steady in flow of money. And as the money came, so it left. I spent without having any plan. After all, I wasn't paying rent and wasn't buying food...so, what the heck! My girlfriend too didn't see anything wrong with all of that. I guess she loved it too. Who wouldn't? But everything changed when I started becoming close to this Igbira girl. She also had a boyfriend then, so it was just platonic. After about 2 months of our meeting, she broke up with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend said his parents told him they will not accept her as a wife. So, she had to let go. She was devastated...and my shoulders were there to cry on.

After a while, our closeness came to a head and my girlfriend started asking questions. I had to lie on every single occasion to cover up. It is worthy to note that my girlfriend was the typical "Coming to America" wife that was presented to Akeem. I can't remember any quarrel we had throughout all those years. But this other lady was different. I think from then till now we have quarrelled more times than I had with my girlfriend. And this other lady is no where to be compared in terms of beauty. But what she didn't have facially, she made up for it with her intellect.

After a while, I couldn't take the lying anymore and decided to break up with my girlfriend. I guess it didn't come as a surprise to her because she saw it coming. The only people who didn't were my friends and family. My mum was devastated, still is. A family meeting was called and I was summoned. At this point I wasn't living with my parents anymore. This Igbira lady had pushed me, almost to a point of quarrelling to cultivate the habit of saving most of my income. In short, I achieved more in a very short time of being with her. She would push, plan, budget, plan, plan and plan. My people on the hand were furious, my mom was convinced that I was under a charm and she made sure almost everyone heard her out. I received calls from home and abroad asking me why I would act in such a foolish manner. I stopped picking my calls at some point.

After a few months, everything became a little quiet. And we became inseparable. But then she started whispering about marriage. Which I was already thinking of. But then, the religious question was one we couldn't find an answer to. She tried to convince me though, tried to tell me and show me the beauty of Islam. I, on the other hand, tried to show her the beauty of Christianity. After a while, we decided to set a deadline for ourselves. If there was no solution then, we would just call it quits. That was when I decided to shift grounds. I was now ready for the both of us to remain where we wanted to be (even though it goes against everything I believe in). Still, she refused to budge. According to her, her religion was the most important thing to her. And if she looses it, she would have lost part of herself.

Now I knew my parents were probably going to disown me if I had brought up the idea of marriage to someone who was not only an Igbira, but also a Muslim. But I decided that my happiness was utmost. But one thing I failed to grasp was how she on the other hand, didn't even think of taking risks. She claimed if I loved her enough, I should be able to make that sacrifice for her. But the question I kept asking her was, why can't you also make the sacrifice for me?

After a while, we called it quits. It hurt like cray. Still does. I find it hard to concentrate a times. I have done several things to get her off my mind, but none has worked thus far. I just decided to put this down today, even though some people I don't want seeing this might. And I don't fancy doing the anonymous thingy.

I don't believe I was "jazzed." Although I have never missed anyone like this before. I guess in the end, religion and tribe won out. Probably what I deserved!

We have seen people of different religion married and swimming the tide together... It requires a high level of tolerance and unconditional love.. However, there are certain issues that are fundamental and core to ones life and religion is one of it.

In my capacity and from my experience i will suggest you let go it will reduce your prayer points in the future.

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 5:39pm On Nov 11, 2015
This your story sweet o @ Zico. I enjoyed it, no come know wetin to talk embarassed

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 5:49pm On Nov 11, 2015
Kachisbarbie:
This your story sweet o @ Zico. I enjoyed it, no come know wetin to talk embarassed
embarassed embarassed
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 5:52pm On Nov 11, 2015
deeptesting:


We have seen people of different religion married and swimming the tide together... It requires a high level of tolerance and unconditional love.. However, there are certain issues that are fundamental and core to ones life and religion is one of it.

In my capacity and from my experience i will suggest you let go it will reduce your prayer points in the future.
Hmmm...I think I have let it go. I wouldn't have posted this sef...I just went through my phone and wiped the memories off. It brought back good memories. Thanks anyway.
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 6:05pm On Nov 11, 2015
I enjoyed reading this story a lot. I love it.



Zicoraads,

why does anyone have to sacrifice anything?
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 6:12pm On Nov 11, 2015
Mindfulness:
I enjoyed reading this story a lot. I love it.



Zicoraads,

why does anyone have to sacrifice anything?

I don't get you. Sacrifice in terms of??
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 6:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
zicoraads:


Now I knew my parents were probably going to disown me if I had brought up the idea of marriage to someone who was not only an Igbira, but also a Muslim. But I decided that my happiness was utmost. But one thing I failed to grasp was how she on the other hand, didn't even think of taking risks. She claimed if I loved her enough, I should be able to make that sacrifice for her. But the question I kept asking her was, why can't you also make the sacrifice for me?

Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by KanwuliaJara: 6:20pm On Nov 11, 2015
People sabi complicate dem lives sha!
OP! Yes, you got served!
You can't have everything in life you know?

You just have to learn to PUT YOURSELF FIRST ALWAYS!

You think meeting a compatible partner comes TWICE in a lifetime?

Because of some SHYTE religion, you threw your one chance at happiness away?

I pity your life! kiss

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 6:33pm On Nov 11, 2015
Mindfulness:


Well, I get your drift now. There was a part in my post where I stated that I told her we should just stick to the status quo. No one should sacrifice anything. But for her, and I think her parents as well, it is either a Muslim comes or nothing. So, for me to even do anything or think of anything, I must first be one.
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 6:35pm On Nov 11, 2015
zicoraads:

Well, I get your drift now. There was a part in my post where I stated that I told her we should just stick to the status quo. No one should sacrifice anything. But for her, and I think her parents as well, it is either a Muslim comes or nothing. So, for me to even do anything or think of anything, I must first be one.

You are ok with her being and staying a Muslim? Now and after marriage?
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 6:37pm On Nov 11, 2015
KanwuliaJara:
People sabi complicate dem lives sha!
OP! Yes, you got served!
You can't have everything in life you know?

You just have to learn to PUT YOURSELF FIRST ALWAYS!

You think meeting a compatible partner comes TWICE in a lifetime?

Because of some SHYTE religion, you threw your one chance at happiness away?

I pity your life! kiss
You pity my life...with a kiss? embarassed
I understand where you are coming from. And trust me, there isn't one day I didn't think of going all selfish and putting myself first. And the painful thing is, am not the overly religious type. But then I couldn't just do it. Especially when I thought about the consequences of it on the people I really care about.

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 6:39pm On Nov 11, 2015
Mindfulness:


You are ok with her being and staying a Muslim? Now and after marriage?
Of cos I am. I don't have one single problem with that.
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 6:39pm On Nov 11, 2015
zicoraads:

Of cos I am. I don't have one single problem with that.

And she knows it?
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 6:41pm On Nov 11, 2015
Mindfulness:


And she knows it?
Definitely...she does. Told her on several occasions.
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 7:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
zicoraads:

Definitely...she does. Told her on several occasions.

The perfect solution would be for you two to enjoy your love and relationship and sticking to your faith without sacrificing anything but since she is not able to love you unconditionally, teach her how to by loving her unconditionally ..... from a distance. It is good to be in love. wink
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by KanwuliaJara: 7:46pm On Nov 11, 2015
zicoraads:

You pity my life...with a kiss? embarassed
I understand where you are coming from. And trust me, there isn't one day I didn't think of going all selfish and putting myself first. And the painful thing is, am not the overly religious type. But then I couldn't just do it. Especially when I thought about the consequences of it on the people I really care about.

The "CHRISTIAN" babe? BORING!
The "Muslim" babe? SHARIA!

Which wan go please YOU? undecided

2 families have rejected this girl because of some excuse of a SHYTE RELIGION or TRIBE.

The consequence on WHAT PEOPLE? undecided

If they cared about you in the first place, they would wish you well and respect YOUR HELL OF A DAMN CHOICE.

How did her religion affect YOUR LIFE? undecided

Tomorrow YOU and YOUR likes will call her an ASHAWO! undecided With each broken trust or REJECTION makes for an ANGRY, FRUSTRATED BLACK WOMAN!

What kind of wife would she make with the next UNFORTUNATE dude that inherits all this baggage? undecided

Yes! I pity your life!
Go and MARRY the "people" you care about!!!! kiss

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Mzdivacious(f): 11:01am On Jan 05, 2016
kanwuliajara take it down 1million notches.u dont have to bring or show any frustration.calm down na

zicoraads,u ehnundecided...i thought u said u are over d girl,me sef i pify u.love isnt easy to come by o.hold that thought dear.its been several months n u still cant stop thinking about her,i still believe u shd give her a call n give it another shot.but since she wasnt willing to compromise sha,u are not that old sooo,another girl might come grin

some people werent supposed to see this.but u didnt av a chance against me since i frequently visit ur diary n pages n allundecided

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 11:29am On Jan 05, 2016
Mzdivacious:
kanwuliajara take it down 1million notches.u dont have to bring or show any frustration.calm down na

zicoraads,u ehnundecided...i thought u said u are over d girl,me sef i pify u.love isnt easy to come by o.hold that thought dear.its been several months n u still cant stop thinking about her,i still believe u shd give her a call n give it another shot.but since she wasnt willing to compromise sha,u are not that old sooo,another girl might come grin

some people werent supposed to see this.but u didnt av a chance against me since i frequently visit ur diary n pages n allundecided
MD...this has been here for awhile now. You just saw it? cheesy

Anyway, this is all in the past now!
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Mzdivacious(f): 11:37am On Jan 05, 2016
zicoraads:

MD...this has been here for awhile now. You just saw it? cheesy

Anyway, this is all in the past now!
saw it cos i stalked ur diary n profile grin
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 12:37pm On Jan 05, 2016
Mzdivacious:
saw it cos i stalked ur diary n profile grin
Stalker on the loose cheesy tongue

How have you been? And, whatever happened to updates on your own diary sad
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by ivyT(f): 2:12pm On Jan 05, 2016
Kachisbarbie:
This your story sweet o @ Zico. I enjoyed it, no come know wetin to talk embarassed

abi my sista .d tory sweet
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Mzdivacious(f): 2:38pm On Jan 05, 2016
zicoraads:

Stalker on the loose cheesy tongue

How have you been? And, whatever happened to updates on your own diary sad
lol.i cant be letting random readers in on my life like that.its a matter of time before i erase my old posts.a diary cant solve my problems
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 3:31pm On Jan 05, 2016
Mzdivacious:
lol.i cant be letting random readers in on my life like that.its a matter of time before i erase my old posts.a diary cant solve my problems
I don't think that's the purpose of keeping one. It's basically just for penning down thoughts...for memories and probably for posterity sake. Of cos a diary can't solve anyone's problems. Even money can't solve all problems, talk less of an online diary.

Besides, what you see on my diary is just half of what happens in my life. I don't know about others but I don't tell all. Getting to know me better, you might just be pleasantly surprised cheesy
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by tpiar: 3:33pm On Jan 05, 2016
The story is too long to read, can you summarize what you're trying to say there?
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jan 05, 2016
zicoraads:

I don't think that's the purpose of keeping one. It's basically just for penning down thoughts...for memories and probably for posterity sake. Of cos a diary can't solve anyone's problems. Even money can't solve all problems, talk less of an online diary.

Besides, what you see on my diary is just half of what happens in my life. I don't know about others but I don't tell all. Getting to know me better, you might just be pleasantly surprised cheesy


U can't tell all even if u wanted to. You may not always be with ur phone or laptop, u may not be in the mood to write down anything, some thoughts cannot be articulated.. And then there are just certain things u'd feel naturally inhibited to share.

But it's fun, all the same.. And it offers some sort of reprieve. Like letting off steam.

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Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by KanwuliaJara: 3:45pm On Jan 05, 2016
Mzdivacious:
kanwuliajara take it down 1million notches.u dont have to bring or show any frustration. calm down na

Why I nor go show frusTREHshun?
You hia say I be PSYCHO-THERAPIST? undecided
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by Mzdivacious(f): 6:13pm On Jan 05, 2016
zicoraads:

I don't think that's the purpose of keeping one. It's basically just for penning down thoughts...for memories and probably for posterity sake. Of cos a diary can't solve anyone's problems. Even money can't solve all problems, talk less of an online diary.

Besides, what you see on my diary is just half of what happens in my life. I don't know about others but I don't tell all. Getting to know me better, you might just be pleasantly surprised cheesy
yh..i guess i dont know how to pen down just half of my life.i might change my mind later tho.for now i just enjoy reading every other person's diary.
p.s i noticed ur diary is too vague...i want mooore grin
Re: Love, Religion And Tribe by zicoraads: 7:37pm On May 31, 2016
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