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these are men..... devising means to protecting themselves against america's underground global terrorism. 9ja na to dey criticize gvt be we own

EternalTruths:
His accuracy are high but people need to pray to God to be sure he is of the Lord.

if u like believe ..for me he is of the lord ..nobody believed jesus so it not new

i believe tbj is of the lord God

Juxtified:
A Hydrogen bomb is a form of Nuclear bomb. Don't insult people over what you don't know.

sorry mate i didn't read it properly i thought I saw atomic bomb. My bad

this man always hit it.

Duletion:
sorry mate i didn't read it properly i thought I saw atomic bomb. My bad

I hail bro

princejayboss:
Do you know what is hydrogen bomb" ? is you do know the fission power it has you will be praying for forgiveness of sin... Cos the end is certainly here

I don't get your point sir

Well, if you have been following world news on CNN, BBC AL Jazeera, Press TV etc, you should be able to predict North Korea, Syria, Oil prices, global warming etc. I maintain, since TB Joshua was not able to predict the collapse of his own guests house, I found it very hard to believe him again.

EternalTruths:
His accuracy are high but people need to pray to God to be sure he is of the Lord.

Rubbish..


What does it matter

After all, EVERY RELIGION HAVE A SPIRITUAL HOLY BOOK AND THEY ALL THINK THAT THEY ARE SERVING THE ONE TRUE GOD.

redcliff:
So are you also trying to say that the devil does not use people to prophesy? dont get it twisted man.. the bible made mention of false prophets.. they are under the influence of evil spirits!

Then go and deliver him, if u cannot deliver him, he will deliver you. Enough!

cheruv:
North and South Korea remind me of the situation on the Korean peninsula btwn Goguryeo and Silla in 662 AD.
I'd not be surprised that rather than go South, the North Koreans would invade north to restore the glory of great goguryeo.

You don over see Jumong and it's affecting your sense of reasoning and judgement.

Sollykay41:
Then go and deliver him, if u cannot deliver him, he will deliver you. Enough!

Gozzzy:
Ashki, u don too watch korean films shaa.

Hyungnim

Information before prophecies. If I am exposed or privileged to get some secret information regarding a very classified govt intention .I can prophesy about it knowing without any doubt that it will happen. This will make people believe me so much. That is not to say they are no genuine prophecies. But a prophet without a Christian life to back it up is no more than a mere gift that will just keep you on the surface of the Earth but not Haven bound. You are just a mere tool in the kingdom but certainly not a member. You will find them all over the Bible Eg Balak. You find in this great country Nig. Gods ordained Prophets don't guess or prophesy half and half God's prophecies never fail, it's absolute and Exact. You don't pay for them .if you like heal the sick, Raise the Dead,move mountains if your life is questionable in any aspect forget about heaven. Those gifts are earthly bound ,The real thing is a genuine Born Again Holy Ghost filled christian and it's not hidden, the Bible said by their fruits you shall know them,its not by their fate. faith the the means to the End but gullible so called Men of God sees it the other way round and this has become the order of the Day. May God help us

he is making predictions not prophecies....

EternalTruths:
His accuracy are high but people need to pray to God to be sure he is of the Lord.

Can satan cast out satan? Can the devil permit any of his children to publicly and brazenly humiliate his demons in public? Can satan teach people to have faith in God? Can satan permit any of his children reverse the sickness, disease and problems of mankind using his power? You don see where Babalawos dey evangelize Jesus with megaphone from their shrine? You don see where Freemason dey cast out demons for people life? You don see where Luciferian dey preach plead blood of Jesus? You don hear where Illuminati folks dey humiliate demons, interrogate them, put fire on them and kick dem straight to hell?

Please don't fall the spirit of slumber that is at work in the end time (Romans11:8 )...this spirit makes people have eyes that do not see, have ears that do not hear as prophesied by Isaiah (Isaiah6:10) and makes them believe a lie and reject the truth...

By the words of a man, he is justified and by his words he is condemned...listen to his words, judge them by scripture and by the inward witness and you will find like others have found that T. B. Joshua is prophet sent from the LORD GOD!

Jordi:
he is making predictions not prophecies....

...and what is prophecy?

that man TB JOSHUA is spirit and a messenger of the MUST high GOD .he is a MAIGHTY PROPHET the year of "reward"

SMH....There is nothing prophetic in this, North Korea needs something and so Pyongyang is trying to shake up japan,United states and south korea for food aid or gain an upper hand in the ongoing nuclear negotiations ....They do this once in a while just to remind people they are still relevant, this is not the first time they are testing a nuclear device in an underground testing facility and surely wont be the last time...Watch more international news and read a bit so that some criminal making noise on TV wont deceive you about seeing prophesies.
I Prophesies that They would do it again within the next 2-4years, and some imaginary God didn't tell me, Logic told me
Just out of curiosity....Why didn't the criminal prophesize the structural collapse of his church so that he might at least have saved hundreds of lives of his own foolish worshipers followers who came all the way from South Africa to come and die a terrible and avoidable death in Nigeria ?

At first the world did not believe Jesus when he told them he is the messiah, it's amazing that people are waiting for the second coming of Christ while Christ has already come for the second time and the rapture is taking place, the jihad war is starting. Hear Ye this man he is of GOD !!

EternalTruths:
His accuracy are high but people need to pray to God to be sure he is of the Lord

We are in end time

Even some of the elect will be deceived

You are a wise christian. Many are easily carried away with end time signs and prophecies. The bible can't lie. There are many out there. But we don't know them.

Chicagoesontop:
At first the world did not believe Jesus when he told them he is the messiah, it's amazing that people are waiting for the second coming of Christ while Christ has already come for the second time and the rapture is taking place, the jihad war is starting. Hear Ye this man he is of GOD !!

Has all been fulfilled according to scripture?

plappville:
Has all been fulfilled according to scripture?

It's Already Happening !!

efficiencie:
Can satan cast out satan? Can the devil permit any of his children to publicly and brazenly humiliate his demons in public? Can satan teach people to have faith in God? Can satan permit any of his children reverse the sickness, disease and problems of mankind using his power? You don see where Babalawos dey evangelize Jesus with megaphone from their shrine? You don see where Freemason dey cast out demons for people life? You don see where Luciferian dey preach plead blood of Jesus? You don hear where Illuminati folks dey humiliate demons, interrogate them, put fire on them and kick dem straight to hell?

Please don't fall the spirit of slumber that is at work in the end time (Romans11:8 )...this spirit makes people have eyes that do not see, have ears that do not hear as prophesied by Isaiah (Isaiah6:10) and makes them believe a lie and reject the truth...

By the words of a man, he is justified and by his words he is condemned...listen to his words, judge them by scripture and by the inward witness and you will find like others have found that T. B. Joshua is prophet sent from the LORD GOD!

Remember the saying: (“Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing.”) except you do not agree they exist in this end time.

In Matthew 7 Jesus is outlining the pathway to God – entry through Christ himself, walking the long, challenging road of discipleship. He also warns tht there are false prophets – "wolves in sheep’s clothing." What does this mean?

People who profess to know and teach the truth that leads to life but really they are teaching lies that lead to destruction. How do we know the difference? Jesus tells us that it’s actually not that difficult. Look at their lives.

False prophets are more interested in themselves than others. False prophets are greedy, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, gaining popularity and power hungry.

Teachers of truth, followers of Christ are becoming like Jesus. Jesus died without any money, no estate and only the clothes on his back. Teachers of the truth are committed to the gospel of peace – loving God and loving others. Leaders who follow Christ have lives that are marked by "humility, selflessness, commitment to Jesus, and commitment to serve others".

These are the unmistakable qualities of the spiritual gift of leadership. But false teachers are committed to "controversies, exclusive behaviors, power structures, personal wealth accumulation, withholding permission and self-centered ministry models . Beware of them, don't be deceived by them. Don’t follow them and don’t give them a cent. If we do not agree they exist, we make the bible a piece of sh""T.

Chicagoesontop:
It's Already Happening !!

Yes, but you said he has come.

Chicagoesontop:
At first the world did not believe Jesus when he told them he is the messiah, it's amazing that people are waiting for the second coming of Christ while Christ has already come for the second time and the rapture is taking place, the jihad war is starting. Hear Ye this man he is of GOD !!

You didn't make it then? My brother, make no mistake! The bible is plain about the return of Jesus. Many verses could be quoted that speak of His second coming to earth. It will happen—and it does not hinge on the opinions of men. However, before this climactic event occurs, many other things are foretold to happen in the period leading to the final terrible events that precede it!
We ought to be careful of what we say in order not to contradict ourselves.

morbeta:
He is the Elijah of our time.

You guys in Nigeria live in a different time zone!
Even some countries have done "new year", almost twenty four hours before Nigeria!

So, my guy T.B listens to Foreign News of such countries, over Satellite........... and makes it a "Prophetic Prediction" on that same day, .... then twenty four hours later, peeps in Nigeria are just hearing the News ad are like Ooh my God, T.B Josh prophesied this thing Ooo!!




Lastpage!

meanwhile, that @MOD in Political section way dey stalk me every minute, l now know you in person, in real life...... l am watching you closely.
Nuff said.

Psalm18:
Ignornace is when you equate hydrogen bomb to
'Arrow'

N.Korea has always tested its nuclear capabilities.

I predict that Chelsea won't make top 4//
I also predict that Isis will behead more hostages.

You are a true man of God. Stay blessed.

Temotala:
Look, whatever your opinion about TB Joshua may be, you can't deny that when he speaks, people should sit up and listen. TBJ has consistently prophesied, albeit often in parables, about events both nationally and internationally which have later confirmed to be true. Remember, he is giving these prophecies LIVE on a television station that is viewed by literally millions. Give the guy some credit - there's definitely a connection to the supernatural...

I see

TB Joshua. True prophet of God. May you live long Sir.

Temotala:
Look, whatever your opinion about TB Joshua may be, you can't deny that when he speaks, people should sit up and listen. TBJ has consistently prophesied, albeit often in parables, about events both nationally and internationally which have later confirmed to be true. Remember, he is giving these prophecies LIVE on a television station that is viewed by literally millions. Give the guy some credit - there's definitely a connection to the supernatural...

The problem he has with people is that he has yet to explain why he couldn't predict and prevent the catastrophe that befell his congregation in his own backyard.
Till he explains that most people will continue seeing him as an opportunist and a charlatan.
People say in addition to all Christ's prophesies about his second coming, and the afterlife , he also predicted his own death.
So why couldn't TB Joshua predict something so close to home.

Bevista:
So, if the actions of North Korea lead to a war, then TBJ becomes a hit with his prophecy. But if there is no reprisal and no war ensues, nobody talks about the prophesy anymore and we all move on to the next prediction.
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My point, exactly, is that if we were to document every single prophesy made by MOG, those prophesies would probably have only a 20% success rate.

What's your grouse? The guy is already a hit with that prediction and the testing.

plappville:
Remember the saying: (“Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing.”) except you do not agree they exist in this end time.

In Matthew 7 Jesus is outlining the pathway to God – entry through Christ himself, walking the long, challenging road of discipleship. He also warns tht there are false prophets – "wolves in sheep’s clothing." What does this mean?

People who profess to know and teach the truth that leads to life but really they are teaching lies that lead to destruction. How do we know the difference? Jesus tells us that it’s actually not that difficult. Look at their lives.

False prophets are more interested in themselves than others. False prophets are greedy, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, gaining popularity and power hungry.

Teachers of truth, followers of Christ are becoming like Jesus. Jesus died without any money, no estate and only the clothes on his back. Teachers of the truth are committed to the gospel of peace – loving God and loving others. Leaders who follow Christ have lives that are marked by "humility, selflessness, commitment to Jesus, and commitment to serve others".

These are the unmistakable qualities of the spiritual gift of leadership. But false teachers are committed to "controversies, exclusive behaviors, power structures, personal wealth accumulation, withholding permission and self-centered ministry models . Beware of them, don't be deceived by them. Don’t follow them and don’t give them a cent. If we do not agree they exist, we make the bible a piece of sh""T.

OK let's look at the traits you outlined above of a false prophet and you'll something interesting...According to you sir, False prophets are greedy, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, gaining popularity and power hungry.

First let's look at greed. I doubt a person like T B Joshua is anywhere close to being greedy! I worship at MFM but I have visited the SCOAN out of curiosity and i must tell you he's not close to being described by the term greedy. Here is man that started a church in a wooden shack with locals. In his early beginnings he was given to servitude to the church and he had a form not worthy to look upon. TB Joshua in his early 30s down to his 40s paid his dues in sacrificing the flesh for his spirit to develop. He knew the flesh lusts against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh and now that he has risen the current spiritual height he has access to heavenly riches in Christ Jesus which Jesus promised those who give their all in service to him and the body of Christ (please see Matthew 19:27-29). If TB Joshua is to be regarded as being greedy, then Cephas (Peter) upon whom the church was founded will also be categorized as extra-ordinarily GREEDY!

You claim self-indulgence...Well I guess even Jesus Christ was accused of this. John the Baptist came fasting and praying and the pharisees said he had a demon but Christ came eating and drinking with sinners, publicans and extortionists and the same pharisees claimed he was a DRUNKARD AND GLUTTON, more or less a self-indulgent person (Matthew 11:18-19)...Christians do not judge a matter after the physical appearance (John 7:24), rather we live by faith and not by sight and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So before your accusation of T B Joshua's self indulgence will hold water it must be based on the revelation of God's word and not your mere physical observation.

You claim self-obsessed...Well Jesus too would have been accused of this! When Jesus told his disciples to cross to the other side of the river and he by foot caught up with them in mid-sea, he could be easily have been accused of being a SHOW-OFF brandishing his ability to defy the physical forces of nature at will...but no one brings a charge against the LORD's elect (Romans 8:33) let alone a charge against Christ himself. So if T B Joshua is to be termed self-obsessed then i think Christ himself is the ultimate culprit because as it is written, all the books in world cannot document the miraculous deeds of Christ (John 21:25) - we could easily say, he didnt have to do so much just to show how powerful he is!

You say gaining-popularity...Well Jesus Christ was here on earth for more than 2000 years now but in the last ranking of the most popular prophets Jesus Christ topped the chart like a hyper mega super star! Well indeed he is a star, because he's the bright and morning star...Even today, Jesus Christ is on the lips of even muslims, atheists, satanists, ecks, buddhists and what have you...and guess what Jesus himself said and i quote: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. " (John 14:12) Now this means, if after 2000 years Christ is still the all time popular celebrity then it won't be out of place for Christians to remain popular after 10000 years...It is just a pity, there are few Christians but many Church goers!

...and lastly you say power hungry...Wow, brother, do you read scriptures at all! Paul, unlike many of our powerless preachers today all over the world, asserted that his preaching and teaching were not with enticing words of man's wisdom but with the demonstration of spirit and power (1 Corinthians 2:4). No wonder Peter in a matter of 5 minutes preaching was able to rake in 3000 souls to Christ (Acts 2: 41) How many powerless men of God today can even dream of that. People come to church afflicted, tortured and deceived by the forces of darkness and all that these powerless men of God can do is say "it is well" when NOTHING IS WELL...Even Paul said we should covet the best gifts of the spirit and more specifically that we should prophesy (1 Corinthians 12:31 and 1 Corinthians 14:39) but we have men of God that cannot discern witches and wizards doing meeting in the church, they cannot hear from the LORD his words of wisdom and word of knowledge and worse still they do not have spiritual vision to be able to see into the spirit realm and uncover the hidden mysteries of scripture...rather they come and cast news from the Bible like NTA newscasters and when they are done the sheep of the LORD will go home underfed, spiritually malnourished and oppressed of the devil...Bro as a Christian, you are either powerful or not a Christian at all. A powerless Christian, is a faithless Christian and a faithless Christian is not a Christian at all...na benchwarmer be dat!

From the foregoing it is clear that you cannot clearly identify a false prophet and i humbly recommend you read the spiritual tutorial offered by Peter on who a false prophet is in 2 Peter 2:1-22...

T B Joshua is no where close to being false but he is every bit a prophet...his gift of the word of knowledge is OUTSTANDING! That man can strip you down to your boxers with his spiritually vision and the LORD confirms the words of T B Joshua with MIND BLOWING and UNBELIEVABLE signs and wonders (Hebrews2:3-4)!

...but the problem of many is that they'd rather judge the man T B Joshua from the comfort of their home with a PC and an internet connection on NAIRALAND than go themselves to SCOAN and see the wonders of God firsthand...