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Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by Nobody: 6:22am On Jan 09, 2016
Thanks for furnishing the complete petition, this is quite different from what was initial posted as you can appreciate. I can only comment on what is presented before me.

Having seen the complete petition, then clearly EFCC is duty bound to investigate.
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by coolscott(m):
freeze001:
Can u imagine ur stupidity? What are u talking about? I just gave u a crash course on delivering and receipt of documents especially in government offices and u say I'm digging deep to prove a point! This is common and public knowledge and u should be ashamed that u do not even have awareness of such minor activities yet u sat and composed wat I'm sure u thought were deep and intellectual questions!

Even after responding to ur questions freely and without bias u had to still sink this low to produce the gibberish u just did...shame on u!
[color=#FFF]Don't get mad. naijaboy756 is just not happy with the succinct way in which you replied.
You didn't recognise that was his pain so you gave him an opportunity send back some of his negative energy to you.
You know his emptiness is apparent for all to see at this time but it is good to recognise such kinds of emptiness on time so we can avoid being subjected to the indignity of its expression[/color]
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by coolscott(m): 7:50am On Jan 09, 2016
lookandlaff:
Really? If that is the full letter, then there is nothing in that letter suggesting they attached any evidence. And "smart" is relative. "Smart" also doesnt mean "sincere"


I dont know who this group are, what their track record is bu t I know that having "Integrity" in the name of your organisation doesn't mean you have any. What I also know is this: If you make a CREDIBLE petition to EFCC, EFCC are bound to reply to official communication and to investigate, failing which you can petition some International Organisations some of which I believe provide assistance to the EFCC.



Like I said you just dont write to EFCC say a civil servant is driving a mercedes so he is corrupt, therefore investigate him.
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Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by coolscott(m): 7:58am On Jan 09, 2016
lookandlaff:
write a letter to EFCC accusing Babangida, Obasanjo, Jonathan, Diezani or any other public officer you suspect of foul play and see if they will take you seriously without at least some reasonable evidence. Do you know how many petitions they receive daily? Anybody can accuse, provide some level of evidence before you expect to be taken seriously.


I am not saying Maechi does or doesnt have a case to answer. All I am saying is that your "smart" guys should do their homework.
This same evidence has been forwarded to the EFCC, whose head has lied about having any petitions against members of the ruling side.
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Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by coolscott(m): 8:01am On Jan 09, 2016
lookandlaff:
write a letter to EFCC accusing Babangida, Obasanjo, Jonathan, Diezani or any other public officer you suspect of foul play and see if they will take you seriously without at least some reasonable evidence. Do you know how many petitions they receive daily? Anybody can accuse, provide some level of evidence before you expect to be taken seriously.


I am not saying Maechi does or doesnt have a case to answer. All I am saying is that your "smart" guys should do their homework.
[size=13pt]This same evidence has been forwarded to the EFCC, whose head has lied about having any petitions against members of the ruling side. Look through all 8 documents please, remembering that this is not even intended to be a comprehensive list of the misdemeanours of Mr. Amaechi as a governor[/size]
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Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by coolscott(m): 8:01am On Jan 09, 2016
lookandlaff:
write a letter to EFCC accusing Babangida, Obasanjo, Jonathan, Diezani or any other public officer you suspect of foul play and see if they will take you seriously without at least some reasonable evidence. Do you know how many petitions they receive daily? Anybody can accuse, provide some level of evidence before you expect to be taken seriously.


I am not saying Maechi does or doesnt have a case to answer. All I am saying is that your "smart" guys should do their homework.
[size=13pt]This same evidence below has been forwarded to the EFCC, whose head has lied about having any petitions against members of the ruling side. Look through all 8 documents please, remembering that this is not even intended to be a comprehensive list of the misdemeanours of Mr. Amaechi as a governor[/size]
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Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by coolscott(m): 8:04am On Jan 09, 2016
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by prettyboi1(m): 11:47am On Jan 09, 2016
coolscott:
[size=13pt]Dont mind prettyboi1. Talking first grade balderdash. Who said the allegations against Amaechi must be true? Is that what we are talking about here? We are talking about the EFCC going ahead and doing the next thing (probing and investigating as they did to Lamido and Akpabo and as they are now doing to Dasuki and Dokpesi).

Unfortunately, the EFCC has already lied that no petitions have come to them against these other people.
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Don't be talking trash,if you don't understand something, ask for clarity. Nowhere in my post did I say Amaechi should not be probed if need be. As a matter of fact, I mentioned that if anyone finds any incriminating stuff against Amaechi, let them follow it up the right channels. In my last post, I was majorly pointing to those people who think the president should just probe any/everybody. However, I explained in that same post that this petition can be looked into and if anyone wants the petition to be taken seriously, then the present government of Rivers state has to back it up. The truth is that nobody would know about these accusations more than the present government of Rivers state (cos they're the ones who have all the state's documents),so if some people who don't have access to government documents file a petition when the state government is not presenting any evidences, it does not appear strong. However,the efcc can still look into it independently, but that makes it more tasking cos they have to go back to the river state's government looking for random files and documents as opposed to if the state government had brought it to them.
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by TheAdvocate(m): 12:42pm On Jan 09, 2016
Adminisher:
Buhari said "NO COURT CASE" against any of his ministerial appointees. No President will stop his appointments based on mere petition.
Are yu serious? Remember that Dasuki's own is "mere" allegation too.
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by cckris: 1:55pm On Jan 09, 2016
Adminisher:
Buhari said "NO COURT CASE" against any of his ministerial appointees. No President will stop his appointments based on mere petition.
o[b]Ex-Gov Sule Lamido has already been ARRAIGNED before the Court, by Pres Buhari's administration, on allegations that are not half as weighty as these backed by affidavits.[/b]
[color=#000000]Please Mr President just continue the good work of fighting corruption..[/color]
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by wirinet(m): 2:12pm On Jan 09, 2016
Is this is the petition that PDP/ TAN/IPOB want to hang Amaechi with, then these people are dumber than i initially suspected. First, who and what is integrity group? Are they a registered Non Governmental Orgainization? Who are the members and board of trustees? Where is their office address or even web address? A google search reveals nothing of their web presence.

You want EFCC to waste resources pursuing baseless allegations from a faceless orgainzation. If there are such weighty allegations against Amaechi, it is not a ficticious "Integrity Group" that would have fact and evidence to prosecute Amaechi, it would be the state government. The Riverstate Government has all these documents pertaining to all transactions of previous governments, so it would be easy nailing Amaechi with such documents. If the petition was coming from rivers state government with documented evidence, i am sure the EFCC will have no chioce but to investigate. But a petition by a faceless (probably illegal) non governmental organization without any evidence to back up their allegations is a non starter.

Mr. Livinstone Wechie might even be committing perjury, he swore an affidavit in court that he is the Media/publicity director of Integrity Group, which he claimed is a non governmental organization. He did not provide any evidence of the existence of such an NGO in Nigeria, no registration number, no contact address, nothing, now if it was discovered that no such non governmental organization is registered with CAC, that is a criminal offence.
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by cckris: 4:21pm On Jan 09, 2016
Let EFCC start investigating the petition. Don't worry about perjury, that's for the judges. Now you agree there's a petition?
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by naijaboy756: 4:29pm On Jan 09, 2016
wirinet:
Is this is the petition that PDP/ TAN/IPOB want to hang Amaechi with, then these people are dumber than i initially suspected. First, who and what is integrity group? Are they a registered Non Governmental Orgainization? Who are the members and board of trustees? Where is their office address or even web address? A google search reveals nothing of their web presence.

You want EFCC to waste resources pursuing baseless allegations from a faceless orgainzation. If there are such weighty allegations against Amaechi, it is not a ficticious "Integrity Group" that would have fact and evidence to prosecute Amaechi, it would be the state government. The Riverstate Government has all these documents pertaining to all transactions of previous governments, so it would be easy nailing Amaechi with such documents. If the petition was coming from rivers state government with documented evidence, i am sure the EFCC will have no chioce but to investigate. But a petition by a faceless (probably illegal) non governmental organization without any evidence to back up their allegations is a non starter.

Mr. Livinstone Wechie might even be committing perjury, he swore an affidavit in court that he is the Media/publicity director of Integrity Group, which he claimed is a non governmental organization. He did not provide any evidence of the existence of such an NGO in Nigeria, no registration number, no contact address, nothing, now if it was discovered that no such non governmental organization is registered with CAC, that is a criminal offence.
people like you amaze me. So you wasted all these time to type nonsense... You try sha! So tell me where it is written that it is only state governments that can petition EFCC. Whatever happened to whistle blowing..you just dey find means to justify your ignorance. Gosh!!!
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by Nobody: 8:44pm On Jan 09, 2016
coolscott:
[size=13pt]This same evidence below has been forwarded to the EFCC, whose head has lied about having any petitions against members of the ruling side. Look through all 8 documents please, remembering that this is not even intended to be a comprehensive list of the misdemeanours of Mr. Amaechi as a governor[/size]
If you had taken the time to read the 1st post on this page in response to the OP posting the COMPLETE petititon you could have saved yourself the effort typing a needless and obsolete response and spared the forum the ordeal of navigating through multiple submissions of a response that is no longer relevant.
Re: Evidence Magu, EFCC Chairman Lied On ‘No Petition Against APC Members-Thewhistle by wirinet(m): 11:14am On Jan 10, 2016
naijaboy756:
people like you amaze me. So you wasted all these time to type nonsense... You try sha! So tell me where it is written that it is only state governments that can petition EFCC. Whatever happened to whistle blowing..you just dey find means to justify your ignorance. Gosh!!!
Who said it is only a state government that can send petitions. What i said is that the said petitioner in this case (Integrity Group) has no locus standi (as my learned friends to say) to send any petition. The petitioner is not a River's State indigene, it is most likely not a legal entity. Why did mr. livingstone Wichie not send the petition with his name as a concerned river's indigene? why send it under a fictitious organization?

I also said the petition was sent without any evidence attached. EFCC cannot start investigations without any documents supporting the allegations. . A whistle blower must blow his whistle with supporting evidence, else the EFCC will make a fool of themselves in court. No court will convict a person based on mere allegations without supporting documents. These documents cannot be in possession of Integrity group, since they are state property, it is the River's state government that can provide the documents that can be used to support these allegations. That is why i am curious as to why Wike is hiding such documents that can easily incrimate Amaechi.
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