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Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by Joshthefirst(m): 1:39pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
plaetton:This thread is ultimately about religion. So technically, I'm not derailing. No worries. I'm laying off. |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 2:06pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
Joshthefirst:No, you are invited to participate and contribute, albeit, constructively. Lets leave it as discussion rather than a debate. |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by hahn(m): 4:24pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
plaetton: He has nothing to offer or contribute to the thread. He only saw a thread full of atheists and thought it would be a good opportunity to validate his beliefs. Religionists will find it difficult to contribute to this thread because basically they're supposed to view their belief as wrong 3 Likes |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by sonmvayina(m): 9:04pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
they are 3 things that define you as a man..your culture, traditions and your religion..if anybody can take these away from you, that person will control you for the rest of your lives. the white men know these things.. let me see if i can go to the very beginning as make a few point..there primary purpose of coming to africa and the new world was to colonise new teritory for their kings with the backing of the pope..these where the portuguese and the spanish kings.. before they came we had our system of government..the ibos as i heard where mainly republicans, the edos had the oba and the yoruba the same thing..had the oba and maintain peace. then in acient edo if your orange cost 5 cowries, all u had to do was put 5 stones and when u come back in the evening your money go correct. they had a chief preist who lead the community in all the spiritual ceremonies...and was present in coronations..we had a good society and developing at our own pace, we had some not too good practices which i know with time we would have down away with. enter the white man:..he came seeking land and resources..what better way to pacify the locals then to use religion..those locals who resisted where killed cos they had a better fire power..well they where also enticed with gifts, for the kids..what do you expect with time people started to for get their culture and heritage and then the demonizing of our gods and goddess started and we lost our way.. if they wanted the best for us, why did they not use economics, teach us how to make and invent things so we can also proper economically. now we just watch them develope and grow, all we do is to pray earnestly. they have really done more harm than good. while they plunder our resources...one by one..ogun and sango go fire them. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by urheme: 4:06pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
sonmvayina: They saw that we needed something to belief in, our delusion was an insane one, the white man could'nt just reason with us, our reasoning was below the iq of a nomal human being, eg, kill the twins, touture and abuse the widow pray and bow down for peice of metals clay and wood, pollute the environment with decayed food which the gods refuse to eat etc. What more better way than to substitute our gods with their own fabricated one. Atleast it prohibited evil and promised eternal life, but now that it has bin hijacked by business minded individual what else do we do? 1 Like |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by Nobody: 4:32pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
urheme:You reason like a dunce. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by urheme: 4:42pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
ROSSIKE: Why don't you just go and kill your self when you know you are depressed. Stuupppiidd, Must you insult 1 Like |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by Trafficjam11: 6:25pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
ROSSIKE: There, and this is the same Usman dan fodio they hold in high esteem.. Not that he should be despised or something, but someone who directly suppressed the culture of a people to pave way for indoctrination of an alien culture doesn't deserve that much reverence. 2 Likes |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 11:46pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
urheme:No no no |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by gatiano(m): 12:14am On Jun 07, 2015 |
All those things that you listed, torture, sacrifice etc, We learnt all these things from the white people, even masquerading. A lot of my own people would not agree to that masquerading thing. Every evil, to the least like stealing another person's orange was learnt from the other races. Till 50,000 years ago, Black people never ate fish or animals, there was nothing called twins or albinoes, how much less sacrificing them. All that you listed there started merely 6,000 years ago after we came in contact with the non-blacks. A good examples are the african wars, a lot dies from starvation, and we saw them on television, if we were cannibals, why didn't they have the sense to eat one another? They all waited till the last and died a good death. unlike the european wars, they ate each other well in good numbers, they still do it. Don't mind vice show, showing warlords eating the people that they murdered in war, it might be a show and it could be true, which they learnt from outside, I'm certain of it. And if they did atall, they did so not because they were hungry but because they had been deceived that they would gain more power. where did that stupid nonsense come from? from the non-black. All of this, the bible testified to it. Islam was not created by the white-arabs, it was merely given to them 1400 years ago through a Blackman called Muhammad. Islam is trillions of years old and it has been practice amongst us for trillion of years too, it is not a religion, It is simply Mathematics with history. christianity and the white arabidized muslims with their hadith is those that invaded us. just like the catholics won't allow their followers to read the bible for themselves, so does the white arabs won't let the Blacks here or anywhere read the Quran. urheme: |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by urheme: 8:53am On Jun 07, 2015 |
plaetton: plaetton: The truth is the black man has a gullable mind, 95 percent of nigerians have replace their culture with religion, the intention of the white man was not to come and exterminate our culture but to help us develop economically and otherwise. There was no strategic plans and conspiracy whatsoever in the first place to erradicat our tradition, it was difficult for them to manage a people with a barbaric belief system, and in a bid to help us develop they gave us schools, hospital, mechanise farming, industries etc. Orchestrated by religion. We against all odd saw the benefit of civilization abandon our culture of our own free will, and it died a natural death. What you called cultural genocide was just a developmental revolution at the expense of our customs and traditions. We still have a choice to preserve or do away with them. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by gatiano(m): 9:33am On Jun 07, 2015 |
There goal was not to exterminate us, because they couldn't, they do not possess the power to do so, and it drives them crazy. So what is their aim or objective? In order to understand how to give answer to that very simple question, you have to know what is. And what is, is very simple, the white race has been condemned since the very first day they appeared. Who condemned them? We condemned them, and there is nothing in this universe, or the next or the past that they can do about it. So their simple objective is - they won't die alone, they would take as many as they can down to eternal suffering with them, it may include you if care is not taken, it may also include me, I have to be careful in order for me not to be deceived as you are. Since white man entered our community from 6000 years ago, There is no account of any good deed that they have done to us, If any good was done, We were the ones we did them millions of good, starting from making them. urheme: |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by thoth: 1:10pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Something about this sort of threads is that it always needs explanations which would warrant a really long writeup, and Nairaland hates long posts. |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 2:25pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
urheme:Brother, you need to study a little bit of European history to discover that Europeans didn't Invent civilization, and that they were hardly civilized at the time they came to our shores. There is hardly any superstitious belief that our traditional societies held or practiced that the Europeans did not also practice at various times in their history. Unfortunately, you also not aware that Islam, yes Islam, brought scholarship and civization to Europe through the conquest of Spain by the Moores of North Africa. They forgot to teach us in school that the Moores ruled Spain and small parts of France for 800yrs. During that period, freedom and scholarship seeped from Spain and trickled into Italy and France. Ironically, England was the last beneficiary. The important thing to note here is that there were no deliberately plan to obliterate the inferior European cultures by the Moores. No. What they had were mutually beneficial cultural exchanges from which the Europeans emerged, not weaker, not fragmented, but better, cohesive and progressive. The rest, they say, is history. To Correct you again, our for fathers were not lost and in need of something to look up to or worship. We had all that. We had our own strict and orderly societies with rules, rewards and punishments. We had high moral and ethical philosophies and codes that guided our lives. You are nieve if you say that they came to do us good or had our interests at heart when they arrived on our shores. They were hunters hunting for, and in all cases, stealing for their broken and broke empires. Like every conman, they had a bag of tricks . Among their Bag of tricks, social engineering for long term benefits. In their social engineering arsenal, the bible was the most potent Weapon of Mass Destraction (WMD). When accepted and absorbed by indegenous populations, it it became a Weapon of Mass Destruction,.. Mass Destruction of cultural identities. The rest, they say, is history. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by thoth: 2:43pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
@plaetton Told you they don't know their history. He is repeating the same package that European colonists taught them in school which unfortunately they have carried on to this generation. The same rubbish the pastors and priest drum into them consistently from a tender age about how their grandfathers were barbarians that run around naked and worship stones and sticks that has no power. Funnily enough those same colonists gave them the Crucifix, the saints, huge statues of innumerable white people they bow down to as saints, gods,Mary and who knows what. The same Priests that tell them that their grandfathers are soo stupid that they worship ordinary tree that has NO POWER will come around and when the tree ACTS they will say it's evil spirit, devil's power etc and the morons can't put two and two together. That's why they go to court, swear with the Bible and lie as much as they like, to keep sustaining the moral degeneration of African society they have to attack, subvert and destroy any indigenous institution which guarantees a cohesive and progressive African society. 5 Likes |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by beejaay: 3:10pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Interesting thread worthy to read by the youths |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 3:32pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
thoth: It's pathetic. Same people who make fun of our cultural practices have no trouble drinking the blood of and eating the flesh of their supposed saviour. The carry a crucifix and rosaries as talismans, worship the relics of dead strangers by calling them Saints, and chant meaningless gibberish by calling it speaking in tongues. All this is OK, as long as the faithful rightfully despise their native cultures and traditions. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by gatiano(m): 4:34pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by gatiano(m): 7:00pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
I just saw a series called legend of the seeker, I saw the 12th episode of the 2nd season. While We are seeing it fit to keep our culture, this white people don't stop working. They are already turning Olorun into a tool, understood and only to be used by the white people. Well in this particular episode, They called it Oloron's amulet. This amulet is one with the heart of a confessor. Children loved the serie, It has systematically gone into their sub-conscious mind. How many of such movies did we adults saw during our time as children? A lot which is still working against us to reconnect to Our Creator. You still say they are no devils? If you say no, those movies and series and even most of home-made movies have imprisoned your consciousness. We must demystify our culture. All the myths are true, they are so much that Our Ancestor had to compound them into a large phrase. I mean, one phrase of Ifa or from the ancient script can mean over 1000 different meanings, and each of them is truth and entirely very logical. A phrase within Myths are like exchanging 1,000,000 kobo into 500 dollar of 100 dollar bill each. each of those kobo stands true. And we have billions of Myths. WE NEED TO DEMYSTIFY THE MYTHS, IT IS OUR DUTY AND FOR OUR PERSONAL AND SPIRITUAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by wiegraf: 7:20pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Both sides here seem to be overstating their cases African society was certainly not perfect; no culture is and no culture could conceivably be so. For example, and particularly with africa, the silly insistence on oral traditions boggles the mind. It's near as foolish as it gets - assuming your objective is progress of a certain variety ie, which just happens to be the sort of progress we value today. It's no coincidence that the dominant society on this rock is the one that first came up with the printing press And Islam didn't particularly do much for Europe. The same Islam rapes our north mercilessly. Greece/Rome did a hell of a lot more for the enlightenment, so it could be argued that they just rediscovered their heritage after the cancer that was the Byzantine era Heck, greko-roman cupture arguably did more than islam for the turks/Persians. And let's not forget they had vibrant cultures before the advent of Islam, just as a lot of Europe did before xtianity, which they had the good sense to record and evolve. But the greatest folly, and conspicuosly at that, is from those who just swallow insulting, obvious garbage. Garbage that insists you're inherently inferior. Just wholesale acceptance of any nonsense. Where to even begin when dealing with these people... And yes, not every European would have shown up thinking themselves superior, some would show up knowing we're all equals on this rock (some even loathing their own cultures), but that's sort of besides the point. The point is quite a lot of them showed with the goal of conolizing us, and not benignly, and they set up to reprogram us. And bizzarely an inordinate amount of us just blindly bought (and continue to) buy it. Weird sheeple are sheeple. 3 Likes |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 7:26pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
wiegraf: Excellent piece. I was not trying glorify or give undo credit to Islam. I was merely trying to show, something our educational system suspiciously omit, that the Europeans did as well go through their own social and cultural evolution, and came out better for it. 1 Like |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by wiegraf: 7:45pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
plaetton: The suspicion sef get as e be. It's almost a blatant and convicted crime which is blissfully ignored 2 Likes |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by scarred9jan(m): 8:47pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
hahn: i wish my loved ones could read this... |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by scarred9jan(m): 11:33pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
dalaman: Our future is lost. The Kewu School opposite my place are graduating their pupils tonight. Quoting the entire Koran in Arabic. These are small kids 1 Like |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 9:06am On Jan 09, 2016 |
Bump |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by johnydon22(m): 10:17am On Jan 09, 2016 |
plaetton:I am going to open a Part 2 to this thread using the same topic.. with your permission boss .. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by plaetton: 10:20am On Jan 09, 2016 |
johnydon22:By all means, brother. |
Re: Africa, Foreign Religions And Cultural Genocide. by Nobody: 10:41am On Jan 09, 2016 |
Interesting..... |
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