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110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 2:09pm On Jan 10, 2016
PART ONE

REPLIES TO THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE BELIEFS OF SHIA MUSLIM

"O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it, lest you harm a people in ignorance, then be sorry for what you have done."{sura hujurat: 6}

@ CLAIM 1 & 2:
That Shia add or say "Ash-hadu Anna Aliyyan Waliyullah [ I testify that Ali is WALI of Allah]" after saying "La illaha ilah Allah, Muhammed Rasulullah" in their Shahada (testimony) or Adhan/Iqama (call to prayer).

* REPLY: This claim is TRUE. It is derived from the authentic declaration of the Prophet as reported by various Sunni Imams. For brevity, following are enough:

# Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (d.852H) states:

"Al-Tirmidhi records in a narrative with strong (qawi) chain from 'Imran b. Hasin: "That messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said: "What do you want with Ali? Verily! 'Ali is from me and I am from Ali, and he is the WALI of every believer AFTER ME."

Ref: {al-Isabah fi Tamyiz al-Sahabah (Beirut: Dar al-kutub al-Illmiyah;1st edition, 1415H), vol. 4, p.468}

# Imam Ibn Asim (d. 287H) also documents:

The messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said: "Ali is from me, and I am from him, and he is the WALI of every believer AFTER ME."

Albani comments: ITS CHAIN IS SAHIH... upon the standard of (Imam) Muslim.

Ref: {Kitab al-Sunnah (al-Maktab al-Islami; 1st edition, 1400H) [annotator: Nasir din al-Albani], vol.2, p.564, #1187}

HIJACK OF ALI'S WILAYAH
# Imam Muslim records Umar ibn al-khattab saying:

"When the Messenger of Allah (s) died, Abu Bakr said: “I am the WALI of the Messenger of Allāh (s). So both of you (Ali and Abbas) thought him (i.e. Abu Bakr) to be a liar, sinful, a traitor and dishonest. And Allah knows that he was really truthful, pious, rightly-guided and a follower of the truth. Abū Bakr died and I became the WALI of the Messenger of Allāh (s) and the walī of Abū Bakr. So both of you thought me to be a liar, sinful, a traitor and dishonest."

Ref: {Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim (Beirut: Dār Iḥyā al-Turāth al-'Arabī), vol. 3, p. 1376, #1757}.

STILL ON "ADHAN/IQAMA"

Some insisted it is Bid'ah (innovation in religion vis-a-vis kufr) because Prophet practically did not do it. These people however agreed on the established facts that the Prophet (ص ) himself appointed Ali ibn Abi Talib as the Wali of every believer AFTER him.

First, recitation of adhan or iqama is NOT part of fundamentals of the validity of salat. Therefore whether adhan or iqamat is recited or not, salat starts from takbir and ends with taslim.

This submission does not in anyway negate or undermine the importance of Adhan and Iqamat. In fact in Shia fiqh, both are so valued that even if you are praying alone, you are adviced to recite them. Both recitations, if recited properly, prepare one's heart, mind and body for miraj (journey) unto Allah (i.e salat).

Second, Umar ibn al-Khattab REMOVED after the demise of the prophet during his khilafah, "hayya ala khairil amal (hasten to the best of deeds)" after "hayya alal falah". That phrase was part of original adhan and iqama at the time of the prophet. Ref: {al-Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shaybah, vol. 2, p.345, #2253; al-Muhalla of Ibn Hazm, vol. 3, p.120; Nayl ul- Awtar of Muhammad ash-Shawkani, vol. 3, p.216 - 218}. Shia continue to observe it while Sunni boycotted it.

Third, the phrase "as-salatu khairun mina nawm (prayer is better than sleep)" was INTRODUCED by Umar during his Khilafah. Prophet never sanctioned it. Ref: {al-Muwatta, book 3, hadith no.3.1.8, chapter of Dhikr Adhan; al-Musannaf, vol.1, pg.475, #1832; al-Musannaf, vol.1, pg.474, #1829}.

So if saying "ashhadu Anna Aliyan Waliyullah" is a bid'ah, why are the phrases deleted and added by Umar ibn al-Khattab in the same adhan and iqamat not constitute to Bid'ah?

Bid'ah to my understanding is any invented thing THAT HAS NO ROOT or connections in the Quran and Sunnah [vis-a-vis Islam]. Bid'ah is NOT what practically Prophet did not do as some defined it. Prophet did NOT practically, for example, say "Radi'Allahu anhum" after mentioning the name of any of his Sahabah but Muslims do it today because it has a root in the Deen.

The phrase {ashhadu Anna Aliyan Waliyullah} was not added during the time of the Caliphate of Imam Ali (as). It started (by Ali's supporters) after his demise during the usurped caliphate of Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan.

Politically, Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan institutionalized the cursing of Imam Ali. And the practice lasted for 80years even after his (Mu'awiyah's) demise.

# Imam Muslim reports:

Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that:

Muawiya (b. Abi Sufyan) commanded Sa'd (ibn Abi Waqqas), and said, "What prevented you from CURSING Abu al-Turab (i.e 'Ali b. Abi Talib)? So, he (Sa'd) replied: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger (s) having said about him..."

Ref: {Sahih Muslim (Beirut: Dar Ihya al-Turath al-Arabi)[annotator: Muhammad Fu'ad Abd al-Baqi], vol. 4, p. 1870, #2404(32)}

So during the Khilafah of Mu'awiyah and his Ummayad successors the practice of cursing Ali was forced down the throat of all Muslims and it became a widely spread Sunnah to the extent that history says many generations used to think Ali ibn Abi Talib was a Kafir. In short, the Shia [supporter] of Ali in solidarity used to establish the Wilayah of Ali in their Iqamat.

@ CLAIM 3:
That five pillars of Shiism are : Wilayah/Imamah, Salat, fasting, Zakat & Hajj.

* REPLY: While the claim above is a gross misrepresentation, the Usool din [Pillars of Religion] according to Shia beliefs are three:

•Tawheed (Unity of Allah) • Nubuwah (Prophethood) • Qiyamat (Hereafter). Two other beliefs are however integral part of those pillars and they are: • Adalat (Justice) as part of Tawheed, and Imamah/Wilayat (divine appointment vis-a-vis Caliphate) as part of Nubuwah. Altogether equal FIVE.

@ CLAIM 4:
That Shia used to recite "curse Du'a" upon Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Mu'awiyah, Aisha and Hafsa, after every salat.

* REPLY: The fact that Shia do not believe in the leadership or role modelling of these personalities, it is nothing but lies that Shia curse them after every Salat. Shia books of Du'a, salat taqibat and daily amal (e.g Mafatih al-Jinan, Sahifat sajjadiyah etc) are vastly available online (e.g www.duas.org) and as phone applications. There is no place where such bogus recommendation is stated.

NB: There is a fraction of fanatic Shia (the Yasiriyah, after its leader Yassir Habib) with massive funding from an unknown source and under the protection of UK government. The group has a satellite tv (US & UK based) called Fadak Tv. They used to curse the personalities named above. All the efforts of leading Shia Maraji to call this group (and their like) to order always prove abortive. The least abuse and tag that each Mar'ja received from this deviator was "Kafir". This lousy group do not represent vast majority of Shia Muslim just like al-qaeda, ISIL and Boko haram do not represent Sunni despite claiming to be Sunni.

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 3:16pm On Jan 10, 2016
To be continue in sha Allah
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by vedaxcool(m): 4:31pm On Jan 10, 2016
Let's listen to a more knowledgeable individual in shiism, not one who uses lies and deciets,

Khomeini in His book “Kashf al Asrar” (commenting on the Qur’anic verse):

((This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful))

A[b]nd it is clear that if the Prophet had delivered the message of Imamah[/b] as Allah ordered and if he had placed some effort in this matter, Many Battles and conflicts would not have taken place in the Islamic world, nor would we have many differences in The Usool and Furu’ of this religion.

Source: Kashf al Asrar, Rooh Allah al khomeini, Translated by Dr. muhammad albandari, third print 1988, Dar Ammar for publishing and distribution Amman.

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by vedaxcool(m): 4:35pm On Jan 10, 2016
Khomeini (la) says the Prophet (s) was afraid in preaching the Imamate of Ali because of the opposition party, indirectly labelling Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and others as the opposition party, and says they were hungry for the government, rather he says they embraced Islam for this very purpose.


“From these evidences and large number of ahadith, we come to know that the Prophet (s) feared the people regarding the preaching of Imamate (of Ali). And if someone reads the books of history and reports, he will understand that the Prophet’s (fear) had a valid reason. But God had ordered him to convey it and He had promised his safety and he (i.e the Prophet) had conveyed it too and he struggled for it till his end, but the opposition party didn’t let him accomplish his job.”
Kashaful Asrar, p. 130-131

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by vedaxcool(m): 4:48pm On Jan 10, 2016
Khomeini insults the companions of the Prophet

“Suppose the name of the Imam i.e., Hazrat Ali had been mentioned in the Quran to succeed the Prophet (peace be upon him), how did it follow that there would have been no dispute in the Ummat over Imamate and Caliphate ? Those who had associated themselves closely with the Prophet’s faith, i.e., Islam for years and remained attached to it out of greed for power and yet had been conspiring and sowing discord and factionalism to play their game, would they have bowed before the pronouncement of the Quran and abandoned their plan and objective. Would they not have gone to any length of fraud and subterfuge to attain their aim? Probably, in that event, a dispute of such a dimension would have arisen in the Ummat that t[b]he very foundations of Islam would have been destroyed for it was very likely that those who had accepted Islam solely for the sake of coming into power would have openly resiled from it when they saw that they could not gain their end by remaining associated with it, and confronted it as enemies.”[/b]

Kashaful Asrar, p. 113-114

"We are not dealing, at this point, with the two shaikhs, or with whatever violations they committed against the Qur'an, tampered with the commands of Allah, declared things lawful and things unlawful on their own accord, practiced oppression against Fatimah, the daughter of the Prophet and her sons. But we want to point out their ignorance of the commands of Allah and the religion. People like those ignorant fools, hobos and tyrants were not fit to be in the office of Imamate, nor to be included among the people of authority." (3)

Khomeini, Kashf al-Asrar, pp. 107, 108. (4) ibid, pp. 116

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 10:18am On Jan 11, 2016
* CLAIM 5 - 9:
That lies is meritorious. That Taqiyah (dissimulation) is allowed.

* REPLY: Lies is lies and it is Haram. However, Taqiyah is to conceal one's true beliefs in the heart and show the opposite outwardly when a person's life, property, and honor is endangered. To equal lies as Taqiyah exposed the ignorance of the opponents.

Surah an-Nahl: 106 was revealed to validate Taqiyah displayed by a prominent Sahabi, Ammar ibn Yassir. Surah Ghafir: 28, also revealed a believer at the time of Nabi Musa (as) and Fir'aun, who hide his faith.

The Sunni Imam and exegist, Fakhr din Razi revealed the Sunni belief of Taqiyah in his Tafsir Kabir, vol. 8 and 13.

* CLAIM 10:
That Shia believe looking at private part of non-muslim is allowed, that it is liken to looking at animal's private part.

* REPLY: This is a lie that can pollute a vast ocean. And it really show how lowly Shia enemies are ready to go to incite hatred in the heart of innocents. The holy Quran is our safe haven as Allah command reads:

"Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do." [Q.24:30]

On the contrast, this is what is recorded in our opponent's authenticated book:

• Allamah Al-Albani documents:

Al-Bayhaqi has narrated through Hamad Ibn Salama from Thamana Ibn Abdullah Ibn Anas from his grandfather Anas who said: "The slave-girls of Umar were serving us with uncovered hair and their breasts were shaking/wobbling ( تضطرب).

Al-Albani: The chain of this Hadeeth is 'Jayyid' (at a level between Hasan and Saheeh) and all of it’s narrators are trustworthy except the teacher of Bayhaqi Abul Qasim Abdul Rahman Ibn Ubaidullah Al-Harbi and he is very Truthful as Al-Khatib says and Al-Bayhaqi said: "And the reports from Umar Ibn Al-Khattab concerning that matter are authentic."

Ref: Irwa Al-Ghalil. Vol. 6, Pg. # 204

There are other despicable ahadith which they have graded authentic but we leave that for brevity.

* CLAIM 11:
That Shia believed a person can walk around naked once his body is 'painted' with lime. That Imam al-Baqir once did so.

* REPLY: Apart from the fact that this is an utter rubbish and nothing but mudslinging, what the enemies intend to achieve with this is not clear. Only fools will embrace this kind of fabrication. To even link an Imam from the Prophet's Ahlulbayt to this act exposed the evil intent of this people.

* CLAIM 12:
That Shia permit sodomy [anal sex].

* REPLY: Quran says: "Your wives are as a tilth unto you, so approach your tilth how you will..."[Q.2:223].

On the Tafsir of this noble verse, both Sunni and Shia jurists derived rules which include ruling of sodomy.

Tafsir Ibn Kathir [vol. 1, p. 262 Ayat Harth], Tafsir Imam Tabari [vol.2, p.402], Tafsir Imam Qurtubi [vol.3, p.88], Tafsir Durr al-Manthur of Imam Suyuti [vol.1, p.638] to mention few (all Sunni Tafasir), reported that this verse was revealed to the prophet (s) in respect to permissibility of performing sex in the anus of a woman.

In sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Nafi': ...he (Ibn Umar) recited surat baqarah from his memory and then stopped at a certain verse and said, 'Do you know in what connection this verse was revealed?' I replied, 'No.' He said, 'It was revealed in such-and-such connection.' Ibn Umar then resumed his recitation. Nafi added regarding the verse: - "So go to your tilth when or how you will" Ibn Umar said, "It means one should approach his wife in..."
Ref: {sahih Bukhari, vol.6, book 60, No.50}

"in" what? Imam Bukhari did Tahrif (distortion) in this report. However Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani fill in the gap in his prestigious commentary of Sahih Bukhari. He add the following:

"Approach his wife in HER ANUS"
Ref: {Fath al-Barr fi sharh sahih al-Bukhari, vol.8, p.190}.

While all the FOUR Sunni madhhab [Maliki, Shafii etc] believed sodomy is HALAL, Shia jurists differ. While majority say it is HARAM, few say it is not. In Sharh al-luma [vol. 5, p.101] of Allamah al-Amili, we reads:

"Sodomy is karaha Mugalaza (very close to haram), but not haram..." This makes Shia jurists ruled it to be Makruh.

* CLAIM 13:
That Shia believe marriage can be conducted without witnesses.

* REPLY: Baseless.

* CLAIM 14:
That Shia believe a person will enter paradise if he wash and eat morsel of food which has fallen in excrement.

* REPLY: This is very illogical and baseless. What is even close to this senseless claim is a hadith from Shia enemy which they graded authentic that if a housefly enters a person's drink, the whole fly should be dip into the drink, then removed and drink. It is believed one wing of this fly contain diseases and the other wing contain the remedy [Sahih Bukhari and Muslim]. Shia reject this hadith.

* CLAIM 15:
That Mut'ah [marriage for a fixed period of time] is permitted in Shi'i beliefs.

* REPLY: This is absolutely correct.
There is no debate between the Sunni (of whatever sect) and Shi'a as to the validity of Mut'ah as both school believed it was established by the prophet. The point of difference is whether it was later abolished or not.

Nikāḥ al-Mut'ah is marriage between two consenting adults for a specified period of time. A virgin and married woman can NEVER practice Mut'ah

• There are Sunni "authentic" ahadith that indicated Mut'ah was abolished at three different occasions by the prophet.

• Shia reject all these ahadith. Shia argument are of two folds:

[1]. Tafsir al-Quran al-Azim of Ibn Kathir [vol.2, p.259], Tafsir al-Tabari [Jami al-Bayan fi tawil al-Quran, vol.5, p.19], Imam Hakim [al-Mustadrak ala sahihayn, vol. 2, p.334, #3192], to mention few, it is clearly established that Surah Nisa: 24 was revealed for the permissibility of MUT'AH.

In fact according to the document of Ibn Kathir [ref. cited above]:

"Ibn Abbas, Ubayy ibn kaab, Sa'id b. Jubayr and al-Suddi used to recite surah Nisa:24 thus: {Those of them (women) with whom you contract Mut'ah FOR A SPECIFIED PERIOD, give them their prescribed dowries}"

So Shia argued that if a verse of the Quran authenticated a practice, the saying (hadith) of the prophet cannot abrogate an ayah of the Quran. Only a verse of the Quran can abrogate another verse [Q.2:106, Q.16:101]. This suggest that all Sunni ahadith that abrogate Mut'ah are fabricated.

On the other hand, ALL the ayah presented by Shia antagonist to have abrogated Surah Nisa:24 are revealed before the Surah Nisa:24 was revealed. A previous ayah can never abrogate a later ayah.

[2]. Shia also rejected all the Sunni ahadith that claim Mut'ah was abolished on the fact that there are equally existing ahadith which proved that Sahabah used to practice Mut'ah after the death of the Prophet until Umar forbid it.

One of Sunni grand Ulama, Imam Ibn Hazm (456 H) writes:

"A group of the Salaf, may Allah be pleased with them, were FIRM in declaring it (Mut'a) halal AFTER the Messenger of Allah. Those of them from the Sahabah, may Allah be pleased with them, were Asma bint Abu Bakr, Jabir b. 'Abd Allah Ibn Mas'ud, Ibn Abbas, Mu'awiyah b. Abi Sufyan, 'Amr b. Ḥurayth, Abu Sa'id al-Khudri, and Salamah and Ma'bad – sons of Umayyah b. Khalaf.

Jabir b. 'Abd Allah also reported it (i.e. declaration of mut'ah as halal ) from all the Ṣaḥābah during the time of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, and during the time of Abu Bakr and 'Umar until near the end of the caliphate of 'Umar.

Ibn al-Zubayr had contradictory opinions on its permissibility, while Ali expressed no opinion concerning it.

It is narrated that 'Umar b. al-Khattab only denied it if two just people did not act as its witnesses, and he considered it permissible if two just people acted as witnesses to it.

And among the Tabi'in (who believe Mut'ah to be halal) were: Tawus, 'Ata, Sa'id b. Jubayr, and the rest of the jurists of Makkah, may Allāh honour it

Ref: {al-Muhalla (Dar al-Fikr li al-Taba'ah wa al-Nashr wa al-Tawzi)vol. 9, p519-520}

• Although Mut'ah just like every other practice in Islam has been abused, Shia ONLY permit Mut'ah when there is necessity for it [e.g a Soldier on a mission for years, far away from his wife].

• Interestingly, Shia enemies can no longer hide the reality of such instance above. They however established a Bid'ah (innovated) form of marriage termed "al-Zawaj bi niyyah al-talaq (marriage with the intention of divorce)". This is also called "Misyar Nikkah - Traveller's marriage" [see Majmu al-fatawa, vol.32, p.106-107; Fiqh al-Sunnah, vol.2, p.45].

In this Bid'ah marriage, it is said a muslim male traveller can contract Nikkah with woman of his choice with an intention to divorce her after the expiration of his stay in the foreign land. This seem Mut'ah but it is not.

* CLAIM 16 - 18:
That Mut'ah done once is meritorious than salat, sawm (fasting). And that if done thrice, one will reach the status of al-Hussein.

* REPLY: These are nothing but baseless claims and lies. Shia opponents are so weak that even when using Shia hadiths, they do not mind if such hadith have been graded Daif (weak) or Mawdoo (fabricated) by Shi'i muhadith. They simply want to malign either by hook or by crook.

* CLAIM 20:
That Shia believe Sunni are worse than dog.

* REPLY: A baseless claim. Obviously this is what the enemies of Muslims preached - to cause hostility between Shia and Sunni. And sometimes between the Sunni and the Sufis. And this is really working out as Muslims are the enemies of each other.

• There is no sect among Muslim sects that advocate for Muslim unity more than the Shi'a.

• Quran ordered all Muslims to "hold fast to the rope of Allah and do not be divided..."[surah Aal Imran]. The holy prophet also spoke in the same tone.

• Imam Ali says: "Respect people either as your brother in faith or your equal in humanity" [Nahj al-Balagha].

• Ayatullah Sayyid Khamenei says:

"How can some people try to provoke dispute among Shias and Sunnis while they have the same God, Prophet, Quran, Qibla, ways of praying? Despite all these similarities some people try to create enmity among Muslims! Isn't this treason? {Dated: April 20, 2014}

Ayatullah Ali Sistani also says:

"Do not say: Our Sunni brothers, but say instead: Our Sunni selves"

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 10:19am On Jan 11, 2016
To be continued in sha Allah
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by carinmom(f): 5:48pm On Jan 12, 2016
vedaxcool:
Khomeini insults the companions of the Prophet

“Suppose the name of the Imam i.e., Hazrat Ali had been mentioned in the Quran to succeed the Prophet (peace be upon him), how did it follow that there would have been no dispute in the Ummat over Imamate and Caliphate ? Those who had associated themselves closely with the Prophet’s faith, i.e., Islam for years and remained attached to it out of greed for power and yet had been conspiring and sowing discord and factionalism to play their game, would they have bowed before the pronouncement of the Quran and abandoned their plan and objective. Would they not have gone to any length of fraud and subterfuge to attain their aim? Probably, in that event, a dispute of such a dimension would have arisen in the Ummat that t[b]he very foundations of Islam would have been destroyed for it was very likely that those who had accepted Islam solely for the sake of coming into power would have openly resiled from it when they saw that they could not gain their end by remaining associated with it, and confronted it as enemies.”[/b]

Kashaful Asrar, p. 113-114

"We are not dealing, at this point, with the two shaikhs, or with whatever violations they committed against the Qur'an, tampered with the commands of Allah, declared things lawful and things unlawful on their own accord, practiced oppression against Fatimah, the daughter of the Prophet and her sons. But we want to point out their ignorance of the commands of Allah and the religion. People like those ignorant fools, hobos and tyrants were not fit to be in the office of Imamate, nor to be included among the people of authority." (3)

Khomeini, Kashf al-Asrar, pp. 107, 108. (4) ibid, pp. 116

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 6:31pm On Jan 12, 2016
* CLAIM 21: That Shia believed Sunni are worse than illegitimate children.

* * REPLY: This claim is similar to claim 20 and we have said a lot already (Reply 20) exposing these lies.

"Whoever does not want Muslims to be united is not a Muslim. Our Imams (pbuh) used to participate in the congregational prayers [of Sunni] for the sake of the unity of Muslims." ~Ayatullah Taqi Bahjat

If Shia believed Sunnis are worse than illegitimate children, how can we feel comfortable praying behind them?

* CLAIM 22: That Sunnis are not allowed to name their Children in Iran with names like Abu Bakr, Umar, Aisha etc.

* * REPLY: Sunni population in Iran is around 5-10% as opposed to 90-95% of Shia. Likewise, 10-15% of about 20million Saudi Arabia natives are believed to be Shia Muslim. There are however western media reports on the cries of these minorities (Sunni and Shia) in these two respective countries of being marginalized with lack of freedom of expression (of their faith).

However, in the case of allegation above and related issues, Ahmad Mustafa - an economic and political analyst from Egypt, a Sunni, packaged a documentary titled "Sunni leaving in Iran". The link to this 54mins video can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6MGqWkpMk

Sunni Muslim have a community in Iran in cities like Gor'gon, Baljistan, Yazd and Ahwaz. They are allowed to build their mosques, conduct their ceremonies and naming their children with whatever names they have chosen.

Generally, Shia are NOT after names but concerned about the personalities named after. The name Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Aisha are beautiful names (and nickname) which are not the monopoly of Ibn Abu Quhafah (1st khalifah), Ibn al-Khattab (2nd Khalifah), Ibn Affan (3rd Khalifah) and Aisha, the wife of the Prophet respectively. There were also many companions of the Prophet that beard these names (e.g Uthman ibn Hunaif). There were well known Shia who beard these names as well. There were Shi'i known hadith narrators [documented by Sunni] with these names, and even with names like Mu'awiyah and Yazeed. Again, Shi'a is NOT after the names but the personalities named after.

* CLAIM 23: That Shia claimed the Prophet (saws) secretly dictated a manuscript (sahifah) to Ali that contains all knowledge and laws.

* * REPLY: Shi'a claim, which is proving 100% in Sunni sahih ahadith, is that Ali is the most knowledgeable of all mankind after his master, Muhammad (saws).

# Imam Ahmad b. Hanbal records:

'Amr b. Habash: Al-Hasan b. Ali delivered a sermon to us after the killing of 'Ali, may Allah be pleased with him, and said: "Verily, a man has left you yesterday. The people of old never surpassed him in knowledge, and the later ones never reach his level (in knowledge).

Shaykh al-Arnaut says: Hasan (good)
Ref: {Musnad (Cairo: Muasassat Qurtubah)[annotator: Shuaib al-Arnaut], vol.1, p.199, #1720}

# Imam Ahmad again reports this Hasan hadith:

Ma'qil b. Yasar: "...He (the Prophet) said (to Fatimah), 'Are you not pleased that I have married you to the one who was the first of my Ummah to accept Islam, and the MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE of them, and the most clement of them?"

Ref: {Musnad (Cairo: Muasassat Qurtubah)[annotator: Shuaib al-Arnaut], vol.5, p.26, #20322}

# Imam al-Tabari (d. 310H) documents:

Ibn al-Muthanna - Muhammad b. Jafar - Shu'bah - al-Qasim b. Abi Bazzah - Abu al-Tufayl:

I heard 'Ali, may Allah be please with him, saying, "You will not ask me about ANY articulate book or ANY bygone Sunnah, except that I will tell you..."

Ref: {Jami al-Bayan fi Tawil al-Quran (Dar al-Fikr; 1415H) [annotator: Sadafi Jamil al-Attar], vol. 26, p.240}

NB: This Sanad (chain of narrator) is relied upon by Imam Muslim in his Sahih {vol.3, p.1567, #1978(45)}.

# Umar ibn Khattab capped these reports as revealed by Ibn Abbas:

'Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "ALI IS THE BEST JUDGE AMONG US, and Ubayy is the best reciter among us".

Sheik al-Ar'naut says: Its chain is Sahih...

Ref: {Musnad (Cairo:Muasassat Qurtubah)[annotator: Shuaib al-Arnaut], vol.5, p.113, #21122}

Shi'a claim is verified through these ahadith and more that after the Prophet (saws), no being surpassed Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) in knowledge which was taught to him by the Prophet himself (saws).

* CLAIM 24: That Shi'a believe in a skin container called "Jafr", a container filled with the knowledge of all the Prophets and Awliya.

** REPLY: Any Authentic evidence from our opponents to prove the so-called "container"? NONE. However, ahadith presented above about Imam Ali (as) suffice to prove the unmatched knowledge of our Imams which is bestowed from one (offspring) to the next as Quran says Allah chose the offspring of Ibrahim, from one (progeny) to the other ABOVE all mankind {Q.3:33-34}, and Allah bestowed them (Ibrahim's offspring) al-HIKMAH (wisdom, laws, ilm etc) {Q.4:54}.

Imam Al-Bukhari documents in his Sahih that "Ibrahim's offspring" include our Prophet Muhammad's offspring (saws).
Ref: {Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 3 p. 1263}

* CLAIM 25: That Shi'a believe in a book called "Mushaf Fatima (manuscript of Fatima)", bigger in content than the size of the Quran.

* * REPLY: This claim is very correct. We believed there used to be a manuscript of dictates of the Prophet to his beloved daughter, Fatima. Shi'a believed as per several ahadith in our documents, that the manuscript contain word of wisdoms, Du'a, do's and dont's.

What our opponents intend to achieve with the claim is what is not known. The initial propaganda and lies by our opponents about this manuscript was that it is "Shi'a Quran" and that Jubril revealed it to Fatima after the demise of the Prophet.

Where is the manuscript today? No one knows and no one claims to be of its possession. Some of its contents are only recorded in Shi'a books of ahadith.

* CLAIM 26: That angels made error and were in a state of misunderstanding when Imam Hussein was martyred.

* * REPLY: We await authentic evidence(s) from our opponents with Shia references to prove this weird claim.

* CLAIM 27: That Shia do not wash feet during wudhu (ablutions) instead Shia wipe their feet.

* * REPLY: This is absolutely correct. And NO Sunni Ulama ruled this act to be wrong. In fact, wiping of feet is what Allah commanded in the Quran:

يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓاْ إِذَا قُمۡتُمۡ إِلَى ٱلصَّلَوٰةِ فَٱغۡسِلُواْ وُجُوهَكُمۡ وَأَيۡدِيَكُمۡ إِلَى ٱلۡمَرَافِقِ وَٱمۡسَحُواْ بِرُءُوسِكُمۡ وَأَرۡجُلَكُمۡ إِلَى ٱلۡكَعۡبَيۡنِۚ
O you who believe! when you rise up to prayer, wash your faces and your hands up till elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles..."{Q.5:6}

NB: Beware of translations that put "wash" in bracket for feet.

• Some Sunni Ulama used to twist this clear verse by saying the feet in the verse go back to the order of "wash" for "face and hands." And that only the head is to be wiped.

# A Sunni grand Imam, Ibn Hazm (d. 456 H) writes:

"Our opinion concerning the two feet is that the Quran verily descended with (the order of ) wiping. Allah, the most High said: 'And wipe your head and your feet.' Whether it is read as ar'julakum (i.e with fatiha) or ar'julikum (i.e with kesro), it is in all circumstances conjoined with the head, whether in terms of wording or position. It is NOT permissible to separate a noun and another conjoined to it (with "and"wink by a new intermediate ruling."

Ref: {al-Muḥallā (Dār al-Fikr li al-Ṭabā'ah wa al-Nashr wa al-Tawzī')vol. 3, p. 120}

• Sunni aHadith: In brevity, some narrations say feet are to be washed while other narrations say feet are to be wiped. Unfortunately Sunni opted for washing while Shi'a is firm on wiping.

# Imam al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir summarized:

"Narrated al-Nazal b. Sabrah: I saw 'Ali when he prayed Zuhr. Then he sat with the people in al-Rahbah. Then he was given water, and he washed his face and hands and WIPED his head and his feet and said: This is the Wudu of one who does not innovate." These chains are good up to 'Ali as they strengthened each other...

Narrated Asim al-Ahwal: Anas said, "The Quran descended with the order of wiping while the Sunnah commanded washing." This is also authentic.

Also narrated Ikrimah that Ibn Abbas said: "Wudu is two washings and two wipings." This was what Sa'id ibn Abu Arubah narrated from Qatadah.

Narrated Yusuf Ibn Mahran: Ibn Abbas said, "(And wipe your head and your feet to the ankles)". 'It is wiping.'

This position has been narrated from Ibn Umar, Alqamah, Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Ali (i.e Shia 5th Imam al-Baqir), and al-Hassan (al-Basri) in one of the reports, and Jabir ibn Zayd and Mujahid in one other reports.

Narrated Ayub: I saw Ikrimah wiping his feet and he used to teach it (i.e wiping).

Narrated Dawud ibn Abu Hind: Shu'bi: "Jubril descended with the order of wiping." Then Shu'bi said: "Don't you see that in Tayammum what is washed in Wudu is to be wiped?"

Narrated Ismail: I said to Amir: "People say that Jubril came with the order of washing." He replied: "Jubril came with the order of wiping."

Ref: {Tafsir al-Quran al-Asim, vol.3, p.45-52/53}.

• Some Sunni Ulama came up with a challenge: What if the feet is dirty? Isn't washing suitable for it?!

Shia Ulamas say: If feet is dirty, it need to be cleaned and dried first before Wudu commences.

* CLAIM 28: That Shi'a say "Sajdah Tilawat" and funeral prayers are permitted without wudu or ghusl.

* * REPLY: Sajdah Tilawat by this claim refer to obligatory prostrations in the Quran (when those parts are or is being recited).

It is obvious whoever wrote this to malign Shi'a does not even understand his/her own fiqh rulings. While it is recommended for the reciter of the Quran to perform wudu, anybody listening and heard the area (verse) of prostration is MUST instantly make Sajdah (prostration). Wudu (ablution) is NOT necessary. Same ruling apply to funeral prayers. Wudu is not necessary. Both Sunni and Shi'a completely agreed on these.
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 6:32pm On Jan 12, 2016
To be continued in sha Allah
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 6:36pm On Jan 12, 2016
carinmom:


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grin A woman - the supposed moulder of the society displaying hallmark of ignorance and planting seeds of discord. What a good role model you have. A nice attempt to hijack this thread and turn it, as usual, to a rowdy derailed thread grin That's desperate.

# Engage in dialogue "with wisdom, good manners and sound exhortations", Quran warns.

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 6:44pm On Jan 12, 2016
* CLAIM 29: That Shi'a believed it is permissible to perform prayers in the direction of the graves of their Imams (i.e to ignore Qiblah, and make Graves the Qiblah even if it is in opposite direction of the Ka'ba).

* * REPLY: This is another absurd claim with no evidence in any Shi'a authentic resource. Shi'a do not pray facing grave as Qiblah but Shi'a say a person can pray where grave is. The holy Prophet is buried in a place that is part (inside) of his mosque. Every pilgrim pray beside his blessed grave while facing Qiblah.

* CLAIM 30: That Shia break their fasting (Ramadan) 10-15 minutes after sunset.

* * REPLY: What Allah commanded in the holy Quran is to break fasting in the NIGHT.

ثُمَّ أَتِمُّواْ ٱلصِّيَامَ إِلَى ٱلَّيۡلِۚ "...then complete the fast TILL NIGHT..."{Q.2: 187}

# Quran then beautifully defines "NIGHT" in this way - being between "sunset" and "full moon".

فَلَآ أُقۡسِمُ بِٱلشَّفَقِ But nay! I swear by the sunset redness,

وَٱلَّيۡلِ وَمَا وَسَقَ And the NIGHT and that which it drives on,

وَٱلۡقَمَرِ إِذَا ٱتَّسَقَ And the moon when it grows full,

• Shi'a in addition to these noble verses and more, we have authentic narrations from the Imams of the holy Prophet's household (Ahlulbayt) that says to break fasting in the NIGHT (after Salat) is more meritorious than breaking it at sunset which majority do.

* CLAIM 31: Shi'a do not perform Tarawih during Ramadan.

* * REPLY: Tarawih prayers usually performed after Salat Isha in the holy month of Ramadan was NEVER practiced or sanctioned by the holy Prophet. Umar ibn al-Khattab invented this prayer and he himself refer to it as "BID'AH hasana (good Innovation)".

• Allah ordered the holy Prophet to constantly performed LATE NIGHT prayer (Qiyam layl/Tahajjud){Q.17:79}, {Q.74:1-6}

This was obligatory on the holy Prophet ONLY and his wife reported he prayed in the MIDDLE OF NIGHT in his mosque while some men gathered and prayed behind him UNINVITED - [sahih Bukhari, vol. 3, bk32, No.229}.

• This happened for three successive nights until the Prophet forbid them from praying (Tahajjud) behind him in congregation. Hadith reported holy Prophet, in a state of anger, says:

"You (people) are still insisting that (Tahajjud in congregation) that I thought this prayer might become obligatory on you. So you people, offer this prayer at your homes, for the best prayer of a person is the one which he offers at home except the compulsory (congregational) prayer"
Ref: {sahih Bukhari, vol.8, Bk.73, No.134}.

# UMAR IBN KHATTAB CHANGED THE SUNNAH

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Ibn Shihab (a sub-narrator) said, “Allah’s Apostle died and the people continued observing that (i.e. Nawafil offered individually, not in congregation), and it remained as it was during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and in the early days of ‘Umar’s Caliphate.”

‘Abdur Rahman bin ‘Abdul Qari said, “I went out in the company of ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man praying with a little group behind him.

So, ‘Umar said, ‘IN MY OPINION, I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)’. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka’b.

Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter. On that, ‘Umar remarked, 'WHAT A GOOD BID'AH (i.e. innovation in religion) THIS IS! BUT THE PRAYER WHICH THEY DO NOT PERFORM BUT SLEEP AT ITS TIME IS BETTER THAN THE ONE THEY ARE OFFERING.’

He meant the prayer in the last part of the night (Tahajjud)."

Ref: {Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 32, Number 227}

• How many are the Rakat of Tarawih?

While hadith clearly revealed Prophet's nawafil either during Ramadan or in other months never exceed eleven {sahih Bukhari, vol.2, Book 21, hadith No.248}, Imam Malik in his Muwatta; Imam Ibn Abi Shaybah in his Musannaf and Imam Bayhaqi in his Sunan documented that Umar ibn al-Khattab established between 20 - 23 Rakat.

Sunni Ulama are undecided for centuries whether it is 8 or 20/23.

We, Shi'a, appeal to justice how we should indulge into a Bid'ah practice of Tarawih?

* CLAIM 32: That Shi'a permit "Mut'ah Dawriyyah" where 10-20 men can have sexual relation with one woman in one night.

* * REPLY: There is nothing like this evil practice in the beliefs and practices of Shi'ism. We pray to Allah to forgive the inventor of this fallacy.

* CLAIM 33: That the land of Karbala is better than the Ka'bah.

* * REPLY: So much as Shi'a revered the land of Karbala, the land of martyrs;

So much as the holy Prophet (saws) himself revered and blessed this holy land*, Shi'a do not claim the land is better than the holy Ka'bah.

Every year, millions of Shi'a go to the holy Ka'bah for Hajj. If Karbala is better than Ka'bah, why would millions of Shi'a painstakingly engage in the hajj rites in the holy ka'bah every year while Karbala is much easily accessible and affordable?

* Ref: Silsilah Al-hadith Al-Sahiyah’, vol. 2 pg 462 hadith 821; Fadhail Sahaba” by Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal, vol.2 pg. 965 Hadith1357; “Musnad Abu Ya’la”, vol. 6 pg.129 Hadith 3402

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by MrOlai: 7:54am On Jan 13, 2016
AlBaqir:

@ CLAIM 4:
That Shia used to recite "curse Du'a" upon Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Mu'awiyah, Aisha and Hafsa, after every salat .
* REPLY: The fact that Shia do not believe in the leadership or role modelling of these personalities, it is nothing but lies that Shia curse them after every Salat. Shia books of Du'a, salat taqibat and daily amal (e.g Mafatih al-Jinan, Sahifat sajjadiyah etc) are vastly available online (e.g www.duas.org) and as phone applications. There is no place where such bogus recommendation is stated.
NB: There is a fraction of fanatic Shia (the Yasiriyah, after its leader Yassir Habib) with massive funding from an unknown source and under the protection of UK government. The group has a satellite tv (US & UK based) called Fadak Tv. They used to curse the personalities named above. All the efforts of leading Shia Maraji to call this group (and their like) to order always prove abortive. The least abuse and tag that each Mar'ja received from this deviator was "Kafir". This lousy group do not represent vast majority of Shia Muslim just like al-qaeda, ISIL and Boko haram do not represent Sunni despite claiming to be Sunni.

Lier! . All the rubbish the OP typed is all about Taqiya, their usual way of deceiving people into his silly ideology! The following are his shameful statements about the companions et al he mentioned:

This is about Abubakr, Umar, Uthman, etc:

AlBaqir:

We (Shia) have over many centuries after the demise of the holy prophet (saws) presented our 12 Imams as being successor of the holy prophet, it is alarming that Ahl Sunna wal Jama'a (past or present) have NEVER reach any conclusion as who were those 12 as many of their Khalifas were monsters, murderers, adulterers and devil incarnates.

This is about Ummul Muhmineen Aisha(R.A.):

AlBaqir:

There is a narration in Tafsir al-Ayyashi which states that the Prophet (pbuh) was poisoned by his two wives, A’isha and Hafsa.

This is about Umar(R.A.):

AlBaqir:
@golpen,
Yes I have a big problem with them, dear brother. I need answers because I just can't reconcile sahaba, accusing my beloved prophet a derailed, prevented him from writing his will on his death-bed that would have saved u from perdition,doubting his prophethood, ran away from war and left him(a.s) with his enemies, killed his family yet being promised al-jannah despite Allah saying: "if you raise your voice or abuse prophet...your deeds will be void", Allah frown and will punish those who ran away and left the prophet in war, etc.
As for me, if I follow those sahaba footsteps, then am doomed but if I follow the righteous among them, then success is mine. They are all examples for us and the choice is ours on who to follow.

Shia rain curses on Abubakr, Umar and Uthman(R.A. 'Ajmain) during your ziyaratul ashura!

The OP referred to Abubakr, Umar and Uthman(R.A. 'Ajmain) as munafiqun...from his post here:

AlBaqir:

# If Quranic verses that exposed the Munafiqun among the Sahabah are posted, again the slogan never change. It is "they are abusing Sahabah"

He is trying to cover all these by accusing Yasiriyah of doing the cursing and abusing!

So, people should beware of the OP! Leopard would always remain leopard even if it changes it skin a million times!

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by BETATRON(m): 10:39am On Jan 13, 2016
lol@mrolai ---sincerely speaking you've misunderstood,misquoted and misinterpreted the op--

in the first part--he(the op) refers to people like muawiyah- masterminded the killing of Ali and also the killing of hassan---and yazid-killer of hussien--and all other subsequent sunni imams who killed all the progeny of the prophet(s)

The sunnis are also aware of these fact that's why they never referred to them as RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPH


The second part is but a NARRATION not that the OP formulated it and concocted a lie against aisha just to reduce her person


The 3rd part like the 2nd is gotten from sunni sahih hadiths--please do you have a problem with the op quoting sunni sahih hadiths?

and the last part is gotten from the HOLY koran-to show that even some of the sahabahs during the prophet(s) era were hypocrites---do you have a problem with quoting the koran

You're the one lieing here with due respect sir---cause the op never insulted the sahabahs by virtue of personal statement--he only quoted the koran and sunni sahih hadiths

another reason why you're mischievous is you only cherry picked parts of the op's statement to make it seem as if he made the statements without proves from sunni sahih hadiths and the holy koran--please to make us believe your statement quote the koran and the hadiths together with your claims
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 11:24am On Jan 13, 2016
MrOlai:


This is about Ummul Muhmineen Aisha(R.A.):


AlBaqir:
there is a narration in Tafsir al-Ayyashi which states that the Prophet (pbuh) was poisoned by his two wives, A’isha and Hafsa.

Below is Albaqir's FULL statements:
AlBaqir:

Finally, there is a narration in Tafsir al-Ayyashi which states that the Prophet (pbuh) was poisoned by his two wives, A’isha and Hafsa.

The problems with this narration:
It is only one narration. It is mursal (does not have a continuous chain of narrators) and is therefore weak. It is definitely not the opinion of our mainstream scholars.

?!
https://www.nairaland.com/1574876/holy-prophet-poisoned-killed-died


# The same deliberate tampering of text goes for the rest of MrOlai quotations above. Funny enough he has been exposed several times as liers yet he never back down on this filthy attitudes. I reminded the guy of a noble ayah in the Quran that even if you hated a person or group, make sure their hatred doesn't deter you from dealing with justice, truth and equity (with them). This is where I realized that MrOlai is a Munafiq who will sell his akhira for duniya so long he achieve his darkest goal of propaganda against Shi'a. That was the exact goal and deceitful methodology of his Shuyukh [of old and present] and of course, many of his likes on NL.

# Really its a waste of time conversing with a desperate jahil. His (and his cohorts) ploy as usual is to derail and messed up this thread with their filthy fanaticism.

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 11:32am On Jan 13, 2016
* CLAIM 34: That Shi'a say to ask help from Ali by saying, "Ya Ali Madad", is not an act of Shir'k (polytheism).

* * REPLY: Shi'a believe and do not compromise Tawheed (Oneness of Allah) in anyway. Everyday in every rakat of every salat, we firmly declare: "Thee (alone) do we serve and Thee (alone) do we beseech for help." [surah fatiha: 5].

• Saying "Ya Muhammad (O Muhammad!)" or "Ya Ali (O Ali)" etc is calling upon these holy personalities to MEDIATE and INTERCEDE for us before their Lord. Shi'a do not believe them to be god or that they can independently render help.

# Qur'an command all believers:

"O you who believe! Fear Allah and seek the means (wasila) of reaching Him..."[surah Maidah]

# HADITH OF THE BLIND MAN
" It was narrated from 'Uthman bin Hunaif that a blind man came to the Prophet (s) and said: "Pray to Allah to heal me." ...he (prophet) told him to perform ablution... pray two Rak'ah, and say this Du'a:

"O Allah, I ask of You and I turn my face towards You by virtue of the intercession of Muhammad the Prophet of mercy. YA MUHAMMAD (O MUHAMMAD), I have turned to my Lord by virtue of your intercession concerning this need of mine so that it may be met. O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me)".

It is reported that this blind man regain his sight instantly.

Abu Ishaaq said: This hadith is "SAHIH"

Ref: {Sunan Ibn Majah, book of Iqamat al-salat wa al-sunnat, Page 197, Hadith No#1385)Page (87)

* Tirmidhī in al-Jami-us-sahīh, book of da‘awat, ch.119 (5:569 #3578) where he declared it "HASAN SAHIH GHARIB"

# AT THE GRAVE OF THE PROPHET

Imam Qurtubi records:

Its related from Abu Sadiq that Ali said: "Three days after burying the Prophet (s) The Araabi did come and did throw himself on the grave of the Prophet (s), he took the earth and threw it on his head. He said: "YA RASULULLAH (O MESSENGER OF ALLAH)! You did speak and we did hear, you learned from Allah and we did learn from you. Between those things which Allah did send you, is following: '( he recited Q4:64)'. I am the one, which is a sinner and now I did came to you, so that you may ask for me."

After that a call from the grave did came and says: "Theres no doubt, you are forgiven!"

Ref: {Tafsir al-Qurtubi, al-Jami li Ahkam al-
Quran vol.6, No.439, under Verse, 4:64}

Ref: {Ibn Kathir, Tafsir-ul-Qur'an al-azim vol.4, No. 140, Under the Verse 4:64]}

SUBJECT ON ALLAH
* CLAIM 35: That Shi'a believe in a doctrine called "Bada" which means "mistakes and forgetfulness" of Allah.

* * REPLY: Another senseless claim from the haters. These haters stuck to literal meaning of "Bada" which are: [a]. Appearance after hiding, [b]. Origination of a new idea.

Shi'a like every other Muslims believe in absolute/eternal knowledge of Allah. If Allah grants a kingdom to an individual, then take the kingdom back because of the person's transgression into major sins and grants it to somebody else, then according to Shi'a belief "Bada" has been utilized by Allah.

This example does not mean that Allah was initially unaware of what was going to happen in the future, on the contrary He (swt) has absolute knowledge of every single movement that is going to happen.

# Example 1 in the Quran: Allah made a covenant with Nabi Musa that if he comes to mount Tur and fast for 30days, he would be granted the Torah. When on the 30th day of fasting on the mount, Nabi Musa did miswaak (tooth brush) without knowing that one of the conditions of the covenant was not to brush for Allah love the smells of one who fasts than the musk fragrance. Nabi Musa accordingly fasted for further 10days. It was only after 40th day that the Torah was given to him.

Allah says: "And We appointed with Musa a time of thirty nights and completed them with ten (more), so the appointed time of his Lord was complete forty nights." {surah Araf: 142}

It can be read clearly that initial covenant with Musa was 30 days/nights but later on 10 more nights were added. This does not constitute to a change in the knowledge of Allah rather there was a change in the knowledge of Musa (as). Allah already knew the Torah will be given after 40days as Quran says:

"So the appointed time of his Lord was complete forty nights".

In another area, Allah says:

"And remember We appointed forty nights for Musa..." {Baqarah: 51}.

# Example 2: Allah instructed Nabi Ibrahim in his dreams to sacrifice Ismail and he accordingly sought to implement this instruction. Allah saved Ismail (as) when his father (as) was about to slash the knife across his neck and replaced him with ram. If Ibrahim (as) had been told right at the beginning that his son would be substituted with a ram, how would his firm heart could be tested? Thus, the actual order was revealed to them while the end result was kept from them.

In summary: Bada demonstrates that a man cannot reach the depth of Allah's knowledge. It also implies that Allah is absolutely Omnipotent and has full control over all things.

* Detailed information on "Bada" can be read on Shia books of belief.

* CLAIM 36: That Shia believe Allah in a state of anger cannot differentiate between friends and enemies.

* * REPLY: Those are qualities of senseless being. Allah is far from such. Shi'a NEVER make such weird claim.

* CLAIM 37: That Allah was scared of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (saws).

* * REPLY: Another senseless claim and lies attributed to the Shia. Allah Never scared or shy of His creation. Whoever studies Quran will see how Allah praises the righteous from among the companions [e.g surah Tawbah:100], and likewise Allah exposed the Munafiq (hypocrites) among the companions and He promised them double chastisement [e.g surah Tawbah: 101, surah al-Munafiq].

This has been the stand of Shia regarding the companions but the haters on the other hands believed ALL the companions of the holy Prophet (s) were righteous and will make it to Jannah.

* CLAIM 38: That Shia believe Allah must judge and decide according to human intellect.

* * REPLY: Another baloney of LIES against Shia. There is NOWHERE Shia ever made such claim. Like Quran says: "...Allah bear witness that the hypocrites are surely liars".

* CLAIM 39: That Shi'a believe Allah did not create everything.

* * REPLY: In which context did the haters made this weird claim? We do not know. Shia firmly believe as other monotheist did that Allah is the Creator and Originator of ALL THINGS. Even when Nabi Isa (as), according to Quran moulded a bird with clay and "put life" into it, he did it with the power and leave of Allah. Besides, who created the soil and water that Isa (as) used to mould the bird? Allah, the Most High did.

END OF PART TWO.
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 11:33am On Jan 13, 2016
To be continued in sha Allah
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by MrOlai: 12:48pm On Jan 13, 2016
[s]
AlBaqir:

Below is Albaqir's FULL statements:
https://www.nairaland.com/1574876/holy-prophet-poisoned-killed-died
# The same deliberate tampering of text goes for the rest of MrOlai quotations above. Funny enough he has been exposed several times as liers yet he never back down on this filthy attitudes. I reminded the guy of a noble ayah in the Quran that even if you hated a person or group, make sure their hatred doesn't deter you from dealing with justice, truth and equity (with them). This is where I realized that MrOlai is a Munafiq who will sell his duniya for akhira so long he achieve his darkest goal of propaganda against Shi'a. That was the exact goal and deceitful methodology of his Shuyukh [of old and present] and of course, many of his likes on NL.
# Really its a waste of time conversing with a desperate jahil. His (and his cohorts) ploy as usual is to derail and messed up this thread with their filthy fanaticism.


BETATRON:
lol@mrolai ---sincerely speaking you've misunderstood,misquoted and misinterpreted the op--
in the first part--he(the op) refers to people like muawiyah- masterminded the killing of Ali and also the killing of hassan---and yazid-killer of hussien--and all other subsequent sunni imams who killed all the progeny of the prophet(s)
The sunnis are also aware of these fact that's why they never referred to them as RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPH

The second part is but a NARRATION not that the OP formulated it and concocted a lie against aisha just to reduce her person
The 3rd part like the 2nd is gotten from sunni sahih hadiths--please do you have a problem with the op quoting sunni sahih hadiths?
and the last part is gotten from the HOLY koran-to show that even some of the sahabahs during the prophet(s) era were hypocrites---do you have a problem with quoting the koran
You're the one lieing here with due respect sir---cause the op never insulted the sahabahs by virtue of personal statement--he only quoted the koran and sunni sahih hadiths
another reason why you're mischievous is you only cherry picked parts of the op's statement to make it seem as if he made the statements without proves from sunni sahih hadiths and the holy koran--please to make us believe your statement quote the koran and the hadiths together with your claims
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Birds of the same feather!
Your Taqiya act of deceit would not work! Both of you are as mischievous as devil himself! The rubbish you typed you said they are from sahih hadiths and Qur'an, is that what is said in the ahadith? Is that what Allah(SWT) said in the Qur'an? I guess you got your own interpretations from shaytan, your master to tarnish the images and personalities of the righteous companions and the wives of the Prophet(SAW).

You people rain CURSES on Abubakr, Umar and Uthman(R.A. Ajmain) during your ziyaratul ashura! Yet, you come here to say otherwise to deceive people!

You misinterpret Qur'an and ahadith for your personal interest! How do you explain the condoms said to be found littered everywhere in the camps by your members trekking during your usual trekking exercise?

You can't deceive people any longer! This is information age! The earlier you repent unto Allah(SWT), the better for you!
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by BETATRON(m): 12:56pm On Jan 13, 2016
MrOlai:





Birds of the same feather!
Your Taqiya act of deceit would not work! Both of you are as mischievous as devil himself! The rubbish you typed you said they are from sahih hadiths and Qur'an, is that what is said in the ahadith? Is that what Allah(SWT) said in the Qur'an? I guess you got your own interpretations from shaytan, your master to tarnish the images and personalities of the righteous companions and the wives of the Prophet(SAW).

You people rain CURSES on Abubakr, Umar and Uthman(R.A. Ajmain) during your ziyaratul ashura! Yet, you come here to say otherwise to deceive people!

You misinterpret Qur'an and ahadith for your personal interest! How do you explain the condoms said to be found littered everywhere in the camps by your members trekking during your usual trekking exercise?

You can't deceive people any longer! This is information age! The earlier you repent unto Allah(SWT), the better for you!
typical response--now pointless and resulting to fracas---no one is here to hassle with you bro---just read and comprehend cause it is glaring you lack the ability to comprehend--from all you've stated here so far

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by MrOlai: 4:20pm On Jan 14, 2016
AlBaqir:

Below is Albaqir's FULL statements:
https://www.nairaland.com/1574876/holy-prophet-poisoned-killed-died
# The same deliberate tampering of text goes for the rest of MrOlai quotations above. Funny enough he has been exposed several times as liers yet he never back down on this filthy attitudes. I reminded the guy of a noble ayah in the Quran that even if you hated a person or group, make sure their hatred doesn't deter you from dealing with justice, truth and equity (with them). This is where I realized that MrOlai is a Munafiq who will sell his akhira for duniya so long he achieve his darkest goal of propaganda against Shi'a. That was the exact goal and deceitful methodology of his Shuyukh [of old and present] and of course, many of his likes on NL.
# Really its a waste of time conversing with a desperate jahil. His (and his cohorts) ploy as usual is to derail and messed up this thread with their filthy fanaticism.
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 10:44am On Jan 16, 2016
ALLEGATIONS ABOUT QURAN

# CLAIM 40: That Shia believed Quran is incomplete and it has been distorted.

* * REPLY: Why is this allegation made against Shia? This is simply because there exist in Shia books of hadith certain narrations that suggest tahrif (distortion) of the holy Quran.

Interestingly, Sunni books of ahadith some of which were graded 100% authentic are filled with these kind of ahadith too. We shall cite some examples.

# How do Shia hadith scientists and ulama view these kind of ahadith?

• Quranic argument:

"Surely We have revealed the Reminder (Quran) and We will most surely be its guardian" {Quran, 15:9}

• Shi'i Ulama:

Sayed Sharaf-al-din Amali (d 1377 H) writes:

“The books of Hadiths written by Shia and Sunni Ulema contain hadiths that demonstrate that alteration has been committed in the Quran. That hence means that the present Quran is smaller [in size] from the original Quran. But these hadiths are UNRELIABLE in the eyes of Sunni and Shia Ulema because such hadiths are weak from the aspect of sanad (chain of transmitter) and moreover such hadiths can be refuted by a plethora of hadiths that enjoy authentic sanads that are clear from the perspective of number and proof. One cannot therefore rely on such weak hadtihs in comparison to the presence of these countless, clear hadiths that reject the notion of distortion of the Quran...

Moreover, ...on the one side we have unequivocal proof that the present Quran is exempt from distortion in comparison to the assumption that the Quran has been distorted on the basis of some weak hadiths... In conclusion, the hadiths that attribute distortion to the Quran should be thrown away”
Ref: {Ajubat-al-Masail Jaar Allah}

• We also read the statement of Imam Jafar Sadiq (as):

“Ali bin Salam narrates from his father who asked Imam Jafar Sadiq (as) “O descendant of the Prophet (S). What are your views on the Qur’an? Imam Jafar (as) replied ‘the Qur’an is Allah’s book and his revelation. This is a Book which Baatil (falsehood) hasn’t even gone close to, neither will there be anyone who would call it Baatil nor has this happened before and this has been revealed by the Hakeem and Majeed God”
Ref: {Amali by Shaykh Saduq, Page 545}

# IS IT FAIR TO ACCUSE SUNNI OF BELIEVING IN TAHRIF OF QURAN?!

There are NUMEROUS ahadith graded authentic (sahih) or sound (Hasan) by Sunni Muhadiths which clearly proved that the Quran we have today has been distorted yet NO Shia Ulama has ever used this against the Sunni. But the enemies never stop of accusing Shia of believing in Tahrif of the Quran despite the unreliability of those ahadith.

For brevity, below are two examples:

[1]• VERSE OF STONING AND SUCKLING
The tradition reads:

عن عائشة انها قالت كان فيما انزل من القرآن عشر رضعات معلومات يحرمن ثم نسخن بخمس معلومات فتوفي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وهن فيما يقرأ من القرآن

“Ayesha said: It had been revealed in the Quran that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated by five clear suckling, then Allah’s Apostle (s) died and the verse was recited as part of Quran”

Ummul Mu'minin Aisha also reports:

“When the verse of stoning and verse of suckling descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad (S) A GOAT ATE the piece of paper whilst we were mourning.”

Allamah al-Albani says: The hadith is Hasan (sound).

Ref: {Sunan Ibn Majah [Arabic], Book of Suckling, Hadith No. 2020 [annotator: Nasir Din al-Albani]}

[2]• UMAR ALSO CONFIRMED THIS CLAIM
“….’Umar sat on the pulpit and when the callmakers for the prayer had finished their call, ‘Umar stood up, and having glorified and praised Allah as He deserved, he said:….. Allah sent Muhammad with the Truth and revealed the Holy Book to him, and among what Allah revealed, was the Verse of Rajam (the stoning of married person who commits Zina), and we did recite this Verse and understood and memorized it. Allah’s Apostle did carry out the punishment of stoning and so did we after him. I am afraid that after a long time has passed, somebody will say, ‘By Allah, we do not find the Verse of Rajam in Allah’s Book,’ and thus they will go astray by leaving an obligation which Allah has revealed …..”
Ref: {Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 8 Hadith 817}

# There is NO "verse of stoning" in the entire Quran. Flogging is what is revealed in the Quran as punishment for Zina. Only ahadith prescribed stoning.

Likewise there is NOWHERE in the Quran where suckling either ten times or five times exist.

SUNNI DEFENCE OF THE HADITH
# Sunni Ulama while trying to protect the integrity of Sahih Bukhari [which is believed to be 100% accurate], tried to explain the meaning of this hadith (verse of stoning) and their best explanation is that:

"...verse of stoning used to be part of the Quran but was abrogated. Hence, whilst the verse has been erased, the command (punishment) remained intact". [Imam Ibn Kathir]

# QURAN REFUTE THIS CLAIM:

"Whatever a verse We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or one similar to it..."{Q.2: 106},{Q.16: 101}

QUESTION: If truly the "verse of stoning" has been abrogated or erased as claimed by Sunni Ulama, which verse was revealed to replace it?

# BESIDES, Umar's speech clearly showed that "verse of stoning" was part of the Quran at least till the time of his Caliphate

[3]• Imam Muslim also reports:

Abu Musa al-Ash’ari...said: We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara’at (ch.9). I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: “ If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust.”…
Ref: {Sahih Muslim [English] Book 005, Number 2286}

NOTHING like the said verse is in the Quran and Abu Musa al-Ash'ari never talked about any abrogation of the verse.

# CLAIM 41. The Shia Quran is with the final Imam who has been hiding from the age of five in a cave in Iraq since the last 1200 years

* * REPLY: There is NO claim of ANY AUTHENTIC hadith in Shia books of ahadith that "Shia Quran" exist with Imam al-Mahdi (as).

NB: About the Twelfth Imam who is said to have been in hiding "in a cave in Iraq" since the age of five, 1200 years ago, since we do not want to tamper with the subject matter which is about Quran, in sha Allah when we get to the subject of Imamah where this allegation is repeated, we shall deal justice to that.

# CLAIM 42. That Current Quran is completely different from Shia Quran

* * REPLY: A false claim with NO probative evidence.

# Sheikh Saduq (rah) says:

“Our belief is that the Qur’an which Allah revealed to His Prophet Muhammad is (the same as) the one between the two covers (daffatayn). It is the one which is in the hands of the people, and is not greater in extent than that. The number of Surahs as generally accepted is one hundred and fourteen …whoever asserts that we claim that it is greater in length than that, is a liar.”
Ref: {E’tiqadaat Sheikh Saduq 93, Published Iran}

# Allamah Sadruddin Shirazi (d. 1050 AH)

Shaykh Sadr-uddin Sheerazi better know as “Mulla Sadra” wrote a commentary on Usul-ul-Kafi. We read about his belief about the supposed Tahreef in the Quran:

“Research proves that the present Quran has neither been changed, nor has it been distorted, and no error has entered into its ranks.”
Ref: {Tafseer of Ayat ul-Kursi, page 332}


# CLAIM 43. The current Quran right now has more than 6000 verses but the Shia Quran has more than 17000

* * REPLY: The Uthmanic edition of the Quran according to Sunni history of compilation, there are 6666 verses in the present Quran.

# First the claim that "Shi'a Quran" (if it ever existed) has more than 17000 verses can NEVER be found in any Shia authentic ahadith.

# Second, any Shi'i hadith that ever mentioned a specific number of verses different from the 6666 verses in the present Quran never suggest tahrif (distortion) in the Quran.

SUNNI DILEMMA
• We read in Tafseer Ibn Kathir:

“The total number of Quranic verses are 6000. Disagreement remains about the remainder verses. There are various views and statements about them. One statement is that there are 6204 verses”

Ref: {Tafseer Ibn Kathir, Volume 1 page 7, number of verses; Tafseer Qurtubi, Volume 1 page 65, number of verses}

• Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti has recorded a tradition from Ibn Abbas (ra) wherein he says:

“The number of verses in the Quran are 6616” Ref: {Al Itqan fi Uloom al Quran, Volume 1 page 84}

• Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti whilst citing Sunni scholarly opinion from a Sunni scholar, Uthman bin Saeed bin Uthman Abu Amro al-Daani (d. 444 H), wrote:

Al-Daani said: ‘They agreed that the number of verses of Quran are 6000 but they disagreed in what has been ADDED FURTHER (to the Quran), some of them didn’t add more whilst others said it was 204. Some said 214, others said 219. Some said 225, others said 236"
Ref: {Al Itqan fi Uloom al Quran, Volume 1 page 84}

# DIFFERENCES IN 'BASMALA' - A GOOD EXAMPLE

The Sunni school of Hanafi and Maliki fiqh belief that “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim” is not a part of the Quran.

• Imam Ibn Kathir writes:

"...On the other hand, Malik, Abu Hanifah and their followers said that Bismillah is not an Ayah in Al-Fatihah or any other Surah.”

• Imam Fakhr Razi also in his Tafsir Kabir:

وأما أبو حنيفة رحمه الله تعالى فإنه قال : بسم الله ليس بآية منها
While Abu Hanifa may Allah’s mercy be upon him said: ‘Bismillah is not a verse of it (Quran)'

Ref: {[Tafsir Qurtubi, vol.1 pg. 92, Muqqadmah Tafsir; Tafsir Ibn Kathir, vol. 1 pg. 20, [Farid Book Depot, Dehli]; Tafsir Kabir, vol.1 pg. 151.]}

# WHAT HADITH SAYS REGARDING BASMALA

Abu Huraira narrated that the prophet said: ‘If anyone recited (Surah) al-Hamd, he shall recite ‘Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim’ because it is the head of Quran, the head of the book and the Sab’e al-Mathani (seven verses) and ‘Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim’ is part of its verses’
Ref: {Kanz al-Ummal, vol.7 pg 437, #19665

Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani, who also documents similar hadith declared it ‘Sahih (authentic)' in his Talkhis al-Habir, vol. 1 pg. 233

There are numerous ahadith in this regard which prove that "Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim" is part of the Quran.

# IMPLICATION
Not believing that "Bismilah al-Rahman al-Rahim" is part of any surah of the Quran means that 113 verses of the Quran are not counted. Whereas those who believed it is part of every Surah except Tawbah will have additional 113 verses counted. This make variations as per number of verses but NOT the content as a whole. Shia believed Bismillah is a verse of every Surah except Tawbah.

DIFFERENCES IN ARRANGEMENT
# According to Sunni history, before the compilation of the Quran by the third Khalifah, Uthman ibn Affan, it is believed that different Sahabah (like Ibn Mas'ud, Ali, Ubai et al) has different arrangement of the Quran due to their respective learning ability. Imam Ali, for example, is believed to have arranged his compilations in accordance with the revelation of each Surah and ayah. For example, surah al-Alaq was the first revealed surah while al-Maidah was the last revealed surah. This is believed to have been arranged in such a way that surah al-Alaq occupied his first chapter and maidah the last chapter as against chapter 96 and chapter 5 that these surah occupied respectively in the present Quran.

# This historical fact also explain the differences in verse numbering as there were no fixed number of verses reported from the holy Prophet (s) to be 6666 or otherwise.

# SUNNI-SHI'A POINT OF DIFFERENCES
While Shia have NO Quran other than what Sunni have both in content, surah name and number of verses, there exist differences in the following area:

* History of compilation:
Sunni believed Quran was not compiled as a book until almost 20years after the demise of the great Prophet (s). The first Khalifah, Abu Bakr alongside Umar is believed to have failed in their attempt to compiled the Quran.

Shia on the other hand believed Quran was fully arranged and compiled as a whole book before the death of the great Prophet (s). We believe Prophet NEVER LEFT it unarranged, uncompiled and in tartars [to the fact that a goat will eat some of its verses, or a verse lost].

* Tafsir:
As there are differences in the exegesis on many verses, there are equally similarities in exegesis on many ayah.

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 10:53am On Jan 16, 2016
@ easymanofdpeopl you are invited here.
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 1:10pm On Jan 17, 2016
ALLEGATIONS ABOUT PROPHETS AND SAHABAH

# CLAIM 44: That Shia believed Prophet Adam (a.s) is worse than Satan.

# CLAIM 45: Accuse Adam (a.s) of rebellion, jealousy, and malice.

* * REPLY: Perhaps these claims are for other than Shi'i Ithna Asheri. There is absolutely NOTHING like those claims in the beliefs of Shia. لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله

We seek Allah's refuge from such heinous claim.

# CLAIM 46: That Shia believed Prophets make mistakes which eventually deprives them of Prophethood like Prophet Yusuf (a.s).

* * REPLY: The ONLY school of thought from among the Muslim's various schools who believed in the Isma (infallibility) of ALL the Prophets of Allah is the School of the follower (Shia) of the Ahlulbayt (household of the holy Prophet).

There is a concept in Shi'i ithna Asher belief system called "Ismat". Ismat literally means protection. In Shia terminology it means 'A special grace (lutf) of Allah to a person which enables the person to abstain from sins and mistakes by his own free will. Such a person is called Maasum (infallible).

This lutf does not make the Maasum person incapable of committing sin. He refrains from sins and mistakes by his own will and power (freewill).

# Causes of Sin and Mistakes

Man's freewill, insinuations of Shaitan and limited knowledge.

* QURAN IN BRIEF ON:

• FREEWILL

"By the soul, and the proportion and order given to it

Then He inspired it to understand what is right and wrong for it;

He will indeed be successful who purifies it. And he will indeed fail who corrupts it.
Ref: {sura ash-Shams: 7-10}.

In the above noble verses, Quran firmly established the human control of his God given freewill either to do good or evil. When man, however, pursue the path of goodness with noble intention, only then will Allah come to his aid with His grace (lutf) and mercy (Rahma).

" I do not declare myself free, most surely (man's) soul is prone to command (him to do) evil, except such as my Lord has had mercy on, surely my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful." Ref: {Yusuf:53}

• ABOUT SHAITAN

"He (shaitan) said: My Lord! because Thou hast made life evil to me, I will certainly make (evil) fair-seeming to them (the sons of Adam) on earth, and I will certainly cause them all to deviate. EXCEPT Thy servants from among them, the devoted ones."

Allah, the Most High, replies satan:

"Surely, as regards My servants, you have no authority over them except those who follow you of the deviators"
Ref: {sura Hijr: 39-42}

Shia believed the foremost of the devoted servants of Allah referred to in these noble ayah, were the Prophets and Messengers of Allah whom satan can never influenced or mislead.

On the other hand, Sunni (except few) believed the Prophets of God were not free from sins (except major sins) and mistakes. Various sins and mistakes were ascribed to the Prophets, and even the holy Prophet Muhammad (saws) in Sunni books of ahadith and Tafassir (exegesis).

# SURA ABASA - A CASE STUDY

1. "He frowned and turned away
2. Because there came to him the blind man
3. And what would make you know, but that, per chance, he might grow in purity
4. Or become reminded so that the reminder should profit him"
5. As to one who regards himself as self-sufficient."

# SUNNI INTERPRETATION
Sunni exegists argued that the nominative pronoun in verse 1, the subjective pronoun in verse 2, and the pronouns in verse 3, 6, 7 and 8 refer to the holy prophet (ص).

Sunni exegists concluded the "frowning and turning away (in anger)" refer to the action displayed by the Prophet when a blind, poor believer came for spiritual training amidst the Prophet's interaction with some of the wealthy, arrogant polytheists of Makkah.

# SHIA INTERPRETATION
Sura al-Qalam (the Pen): 4 reads:

"And most surely you conform to an exalted standard of character"

In this ayah (revealed before sura Abasa), Allah confirm the impeccable character of His prophet. So, how is it possible for the Prophet (ص) to behave contrary to that?

The fact is that Qur'an does NOT give any direct evidence that the person who frowned and turned away in anger was the prophet and does not states who is being addressed. Quran translators erred by suggesting Prophet in the bracket.

Allah did not address the prophet (ص) by title (e.g O prophet, O messenger etc) rather there exists switching in the pronoun from "He" in the first two verses to "you" in the later verses of the Surah.

Allah did not state: "YOU frowned and turned away". Rather, He states: "He frowned and turned away". This ("He frowned..." is a third person pronoun, and Allah never use such for the holy Prophet in the entire Quran because he was the recipient of the message.

# In Tafsir of sayyid Shubbar reads:

"The verse was revealed about certain Banu Ummayah's Chiefs who were with the holy prophet. Abdullah Ibn Umm Makhtoom, a blind poor man came to the messenger of Allah; the messenger welcome him and introduced him to these Ummayyads, one of them was irritated with this gesture, frowned and turned away saying: "poor and blinds are his followers".

This (the arrogant Ummayad chief) is the one being addressed and not the prophet of mercy. This explanations is the explanations given by the Aimmah (Imams) of the household of the holy Prophet.

For more details on this surah, check Tafsir al-Mizan of Allamah Hussein Tabatabai.

# CLAIM 47. Ismaili Shias believe in the continuation of Prophethood

* * REPLY: Although majority of the Shia world is of the Ithna Asheri (Twelveler) school which this writer adhere to, it is imperative to note that Ismaili school do not believed in continuity of Prophethood.

# CLAIM 48. That Shia believed Prophet Muhammed (s) was scared of the creation of Allah and did not propagate correctly

* * REPLY: Another baloney of lies that the Shia haters intend to sell. No Prophet of Allah was ever scared in propagating the divine message. The holy Prophet (ص ) was abused, harassed and attacked severally in his propagation of the divine message. All the battles he fought were for the establishment of divine revelations. How is anybody will ever insinuate he was scared of people?

Quran says:

"O Apostle! deliver what has been revealed to you from your Lord; and if you do it not, then you have not delivered His message, and Allah will protect you from the people; surely Allah will not guide the unbelieving people."Ref: {sura Maidah:67}

Apart from the willingness in the Prophet, his Lord also assured him of His absolute protection.

# CLAIM 49. That Shia believed Prophet Muhammed (s) rejected a gift of Allah

* * REPLY: Baseless.

# CLAIM 50: That Shia believed Prophet Muhammed(s) asked for compensation for teaching.

* * REPLY: First, it is not clear what this claim meant by "compensation for teaching". However, the holy Quran says prophets generally were normally asked by their respective people, the compensation for their painstaking divine teachings. The repetitive answer of these prophets were that our, "compensations is with the Lord of the worlds". Quran say.

In the case of the Prophet, the story changed as Quran declares:

"... Say (O Muhammed): I do not ask of you any compensation (or reward) for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful." Ref: {sura ash-Shura: 23}

According to Shi'i exegesis (and many Sunni exegesis) of the above verse, the command of unconditional love for the Prophet's household (Ahl al-bayt) was established. Shia believed that is the compensation Allah asked His noble Prophet to request his Ummah. No more no less.

# Hint from Prophet's last sermon

Allamah al-Albani quoting Imam Muslim documented that the Prophet said at Ghadir Khumm:

Zayd ibn Arqam:

"Then, verily, O mankind! I am only a human being. The messenger of my Lord (i.e. the angel of death) will soon reach me and I will answer (the call of death). But, I am leaving behind over you Two Weighty Things (thaqalayn). The first of them is the Book of Allāh. In it there is guidance and light. Whoever adheres to it and holds fast to it, he will be upon guidance; and whosoever belittles it, he will go astray. So hold fast to the Book of Allāh the Most High and adhere to it and my Ahl al-Bayt. I REMIND YOU, WITH ALLAH, OF MY AHL AL-BAYT! I REMIND YOU, WITH ALLAH, OF MY AHL AL-BAYT! I REMIND YOU, WITH ALLAH, OF MY AHL AL-BAYT!"

Commenting on it, the ‘Allāmah states: (Ṣaḥīḥ) … [recorded by ‘Abd b. Ḥamīd] from Zayd b. Arqam.

Ref: { Ṣaḥīḥ al-Jāmi’ al-Ṣaghīr wa Ziyādātuhu (Al-Maktab al-Islāmī), vol. 1, pp. 286-287, # 13}

# Ahl al-Bayt After the Death of Prophet

No household of any Prophet faced persecution that the household of the holy Prophet (ص) faced and experienced. All the Ahl al-bayt were persecuted. For brevity, below is the hadith about Imam al-Hussein:

• Sheik Nasir din al-Albaani records a sahih hadith of the holy prophet in his {Silsilah Al-hadith Al-Sahihah, vol.2 p.462 hadith no. 821}:

Prophet was reported to have said:

"Jubril came to me and informed me that my Ummah (community) will kill my son, al-Hussain. I asked: ‘This Hussain?’ He (Jubril) replied: ‘Yes’ he then brought me some soil (tur’bah) that was red.”

al-Hussein (a.s) alongside 72 of his companions, many of whom were Prophet's household, were massacred on the plain of Karbala years after the demise of the Prophet. Such was the evil compensation this Ummah paid their Prophet.

Interestingly, the land of Karbala is referred to, in the hadith, as the tur'bah of Imam al-Husayn (تربته). This is a huge virtue for that blessed land.

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 1:16pm On Jan 17, 2016
# CLAIM 51: That Shia claimed Ali (r.a) had the choice of divorcing the wives of Prophet Muhammed (s)

* # REPLY: Shia opponents have relied heavily on Da'if (weak) and Mawdoo (fabricated) ahadith. These people never care as per the status or grade of Shia hadith so long they achieve their aim in maligning, and inciting hatred against Shia

For brevity, here is one of such weak narrations and its status:

# Sheik al-Tusi (460 H) records:

Amīr al-Mūminīn, Ali (as):

The Messenger of Allāh(ص), said on the night of his death to ‘Alī (ع): “O father of al-Ḥasan, bring to me a paper and an inkwell”. Then the Messenger of Allāh, peace be upon him and his family, dictated his will until he reached this point, “.... O ‘Alī, you are my successor over my Ahl al-Bayt – the living among them and their dead – and over my wives: so, whichever of them you retain, she shall meet me tomorrow. And, whichever of them you divorce, I dissociate myself from her. She shall never see me again, and I shall never see her on the Day of al-Qiyāmah. You are also my khalīfah over my Ummah after me.”

Ref: {Kitāb al-Ghaybah (Qum: Muasassat al-Ma’ārif al-Islāmīyyah; 1st edition, 1411 H) [annotators: Shaykh ‘Ibād Allāh al-Ṭahrānī and Shaykh ‘Alī Aḥmad Nāṣiḥ], p. 150, # 111}

Shaykh ‘Alī Āl Muḥsin says about this ḥadīth:

"This report, its chain is ḍa’īf, in fact VERY UNRELIABLE, and the majority of its narrators are majāhīl (unknown narrators). No mention is made of them in the books of al-rijāl – no praise and no condemnation."

Ref: {Alī Āl Muḥsin, al-Radd al-Qāṣim li Da’wat al-Muftarī ‘alā al-Imām al-Qāim (Najaf: Markaz al-Dirāsāt al-Takhṣiṣīyyah fī al-Imām al-Mahdī; 1st ed., 1434 H), p. 28}

What could be more worthless than this kind of a narration? Yet, it is being continually used as proof against the Shi'a. That is not fair!

ABOUT THE WIVES OF THE PROPHET (ص)
# CLAIM 52: That Shia claimed the wives of the Prophet are not considered to be from the family of the Prophet

* # REPLY: It is very obvious that the originator of this claim do not understand the Shia arguments on the issue of "Ahl al-Bayt (household)" of the holy Prophet.

# SHI'A POINT OF VIEW

Generally, Ahl al-Bayt encompasses, wives, children, the relatives (uncle, cousins, aunt etc), the maidservants of the Prophet.

However, there is a special group from among the generalized Ahl al-bayt whom the Prophet himself CHOSEN with the exception of all others (especially the wives). This group comprises ONLY the Prophet, Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussein.

Therefore, Shia's reference to "Ahl al-Bayt" is usually in the following headlines:

1. Ayat Tathir (verse of Purification):

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ ٱللَّهُ لِيُذۡهِبَ عَنكُمُ ٱلرِّجۡسَ أَهۡلَ ٱلۡبَيۡتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمۡ تَطۡهِيرٗا
{Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} [sura Ahzab:33]

Literally, majority of Sunni Mufassir (Quranic exegist) interpret this verse to be addressing the wives of the Prophet (ص), because of the context the verse exists.

However, the content of this verse supported with appropriate authentic ahadith, clearly show the “verse of purification” (though within a foreign context) never refer to the wives of the Prophet (ص):

* POINT 1
Masculine pronouns {"عَنكُمُ ankum", tahirakum وَيُطَهِّرَكُمۡ} were used in the “verse of purification” WHEREAS the verses that enveloped it (28 – 34) use Feminine pronoun all through which clearly refer to the wives of the Prophet.

* POINT 2: GENESIS OF THE “VERSE OF PURIFICATION”

• The "verse of purification" was revealed ALONE. And Prophet recited the ayah SINGLY. And he (ص) introduced whom the ayah referred to.

# Imam al-Tirmidhi (d. 279H) documents:

Umar Ibn Abi Salamah, the dependent of the Prophet (s) said:

When this verse {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed upon the Prophet (s) in the house of Umm Salamah, he called FATIMA, HASSAN and HUSSEIN and spread a cloak over them while ‘ALI was behind him. Then, he covered them with a cloak. Then, he said, “O Allah! THESE ARE MY AHL AL-BAYT. So keep impurity away from them and purify them absolutely.”

Umm Salamah said, “Am I with them, O Prophet of Allah? He replied,“You are upon your place and you are upon a good thing.”

Allamah al-Albani comments: Sahih

Ref: {al-Jami al-Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi, [annotator: Nasir deen al-Albani], vol. 5, p. 351, #3205}; {Imam al-Hakim (d. 403H) al-Mustadrak ala al-Sahihain, vol 3, p.158, #4705 (1st Edition, 1411H)}.

NB: That was a polite NO to Umm Salamah (ra), wife of the Prophet.

# Imam Muslim (d. 261H) in his 'Sahih' records in the Chapter: The Virtues Of The Household Of The Prophet (SAW)':

A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle went out one morning wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair, then there came HASSAN B. 'ALI. He wrapped him under it, then came HUSSEIN and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hassan). Then came FATIMA and he took her under it, then came 'ALI and he also took him under it and then said: {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O AHL AL-BAYT, and to purify you absolutely}

Ref: {Saḥīḥ Muslim (Beirut: Dār Iḥyā al-Turāth al-Arabī) [annotator: Muḥammad Fuād 'Abd al-Bāqī], vol. 4, p. 1883, # 2424 (61)}. www.sunnah.com/muslim/44

2. Ayat Mubahala (verse of maledictions)

"But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and OUR WOMEN and your women and our selves and your selves, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars." {sura âAl Imran: 61}

* The word "our women (nisa'ana)" in the above verse, apart from being plural, linguistically could refer to wives and daughters of the Prophet, altogether. And primarily according to the Quran (surah Ahzab e.g verse 30, 32), the word refer to the wives of the Prophet. However NONE of the wives of the Prophet was CHOSEN when the Prophet execute the order of this ayah.

# Imam al-Hakim (d. 403H) declares:

“There have been Mutawatir reports in the Tafsir Books from Abd 'Allah b. Abbas and others that the Messenger of Allah (s), on the Day of al-Mubahala, held the hands of 'ALI, HASSAN and HUSSEIN, and they positioned FATIMA behind them. Then he said, “These are our sons, ourselves and our women, so bring yourselves, your sons and your women. Then we do Mubahala and place the curse of Allah upon the liars (among us)”

Ref: {Kitab Ma'rifah 'Ulum al-Hadith [Beirut:Manshurah Dar alAfaq al-Hadith, 4th Edition, 1400H], p.50}

# Imam Muslim (d. 261H) also documents:

Amir b. Sa'd reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said:

What prevents you from cursing Abu Turab (i.e 'Ali), whereupon he said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger (ص) having said about him that I would not abuse him...

The third occasion is) when the (following) verse was revealed: {"… come let us call our sons and your sons..."} Allah's Messenger (ص) called ALI, FATIMA, HASSAN and HUSSEIN and said: O Allah, THESE ARE MY AHL (al-bayt).

Ref: {Sahih Muslim (Beirut: Dar Ihya al-Turath al-Arabi)[annotator: Muhammad Fu'ad Abd al-Baqi], vol. 4, p. 1870, #2404(32)}

3. Hadith Thaqalain & Hadith Khalifatain

Prophet emphatically refer to this (same) group of "Ahl al-bayt" as his OFFSPRING.

# Imam Ibn Kathir (d. 774 H):

In the ṣaḥīḥ report, it is recorded that the Messenger of Allāh, peace be upon him, said in his sermon at Ghadīr Khumm: “I am leaving behind over you the Two Weighty Things (al-thaqalayn): THE BOOK OF ALLAH AND MY OFFSPRING, AHL AL-BAYT. Verily, both shall never separate from each other until they meet me at the Lake-Fount.

Ref: {Tafsīr al-Qur’ān al-‘Aẓīm (Dār al-Ṭaybah li al-Nashr wa al-Tawzī’; 2nd edition, 1420 H) [annotator: Sāmī b. Muḥammad Salāmah], vol. 7, p. 201}

# CLAIM 53. All the Sahabahs except a few turned apostates and turned away from Islam after the demise of Prophet(s).

* # REPLY: First, it is an exaggeration to say they "turned away from ISLAM" for that will confirm absolute Kufr.

However, Imam Bukhari in his Sahih documented this hadith of Ibn Abbas:

'The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said: "You will be resurrected bare-footed, naked and uncircumcised." Then he recited:{As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it: a promise We have undertaken. Truly, We shall do it} [21:104]. He continued: "The first to be dressed will be Ibrahim. Then, some of my SAHABAH will be taken towards the Right side and towards the left side. So, I will say: 'My Sahabah! It will be said, 'THEY HAD BEEN APOSTATES SINCE YOU LEFT THEM.' I will then say as the Righteous servant, 'Isa b. Maryam, said: {And I was a witness over them whilst I lived amongst them. But, when You caused me to die, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. If You punish them, they are Your slaves, and if You forgive them, You, only You, are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise} [5:117-118]'

Ref:{Sahih al-Bukhari vol.3 p.1271, #3263}

This hadith ends with the following:

{['Muhammad b. Yusuf narrated from Abu 'Abd Allah that Qubaysah said: "They were those who apostatized during the time of Abu Bakar. So Abu Bakar fought them."]}

Really that was personal interpretation of Qubaysah. The holy prophet's wording are too explicit in the categories his sahabas will be divided. And those whom Abu Bakar fought were not even inhabitant of Medina who used to keep the holy prophet's company. The specifications of the deviators were so glaring that:

# Anas b. Malik reports that

"The Prophet (s), said, "Some persons from amongst those who kept me company will meet me at the Lake-fount. I will see them, and they will be presented to me. Then, they will be forced away from me. I will say: 'O my Lord, my Sahabah! My Sahabah.' It will be said to me: 'You do not know what they INNOVATED AFTER YOU.'"
Ref: {Sahih Muslim, vol. 4, p. 1800, #2304 (40)}

# TESTIMONY OF A SAHABI
Imam al-Bukhari:
al-Musayyab: "I met al-Bara b. Azib and I said, "Congratulations to you! You kept company of the prophet (s), and gave him allegiance under the tree.' As a result of this, he replied, "O son of my brother, you do not know what WE HAVE INNOVATED AFTER HIM.
Ref: {Sahih al-Bukhari vol.4 p.1529,#3937}

"... whosoever breaks his pledge, breaks only to his own harm, and whosoever fulfills what he has covenanted with Allah, He will bestow on him a great reward" [sura al-Fath: 10]

Who and how many were those "a few" that remained steadfast? Were any of the apostates repented? All these are beyond this reply.
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 6:56pm On Jan 20, 2016
# #CLAIM 54: One should dissociate with the 4 idols: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan, Muawiyya and 4 women Ayesha, Hafsa, Hind, and Ummul Hakam.

* REPLY: The claim above is far from Shi'i Ithna Asheri belief (the Shi'i majority). It is rather another claims of the Shi'i deviator - The Yasiriyah.

However, following are our submissions:

* Hind, the wife of Abu Sufyan - the killer of Hazrat Hamza (ra), uncle of the Prophet. She ripped open the chest of Hazrat Hamza and ate his liver. She was a sworn enemy of the holy Prophet. Both Sunni and Shia dissociate themselves from her.

* Ummul Hakam: There are a few persons with the title "umm ul-Hakam"- the daughter of Abu Sufyan, a daughter of Yazid and a concubine of al-Walid III are called umm ul-hakam.There was also a umm ul-Hakam bint Zubayr.

Obviously, we do not know which one being referred in the above claim.

# Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha and Hafsah: Detailed submissions (of Shia ithna Asher, and NOT the crooked submissions of the deviated Shi'i group - Yasiriyah) are presented below in this very part 4C.

# As per Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman: Please Refer to Reply 2 & 4.

We do not curse or abuse them. Likewise, we do not refer them as "idols". We simply do NOT accept them as divine leaders or Sahabah of impeccable virtues that can be emulated.

# CASE OF MU'AWIYAH IBN ABI SUFYAN

1. Allamah al-Albani copied this hadith of the holy Prophet:

"Whosoever loves Ali has loved me. And whosoever loves me has loved Allah the Almighty. Moreover, whosoever hates Ali has hated me. And whosoever hates me has hated Allah the Almighty."

Albani comments: Al-Mukhlis recorded it in al-Fawaid al-Muntaqat (10/5/1) with a Sahih chain from Umm Salamah.

Ref: Silsilah al-Ahadith al-Sahihah wa Shayhun min Fiqhihah wa Fawaidihah (Riyadh: Maktabah al-Ma'arifah Li al-Nashr wa al-Tawzi; 1st edition, 1415H), vol.3, p.287-288,#1299.

* Cursing of 'Ali b. Abi Talib

Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan established the cursing of Imam Ali. And this practice lasted for 80years even after his (Mu'awiyah's) demise.

# Imam Muslim reports:

Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that:

Muawiya (b. Abi Sufyan) commanded Sa'd (ibn Abi Waqqas), and said, "What prevented you from CURSING Abu al-Turab (i.e 'Ali b. Abi Talib)? So, he (Sa'd) replied: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger (s) having said about him..."

Ref: {Sahih Muslim (Beirut: Dar Ihya al-Turath al-Arabi)[annotator: Muhammad Fu'ad Abd al-Baqi], vol. 4, p. 1870, #2404(32)}

How can Shia associate with this Nasibi? If Sunni do not see it as big deal, Shia did because Shi'ism is the love of Ali.

2. Mu'awiyah: Caller of Hell-fire

"Ikrimah - Ibn Abbas said to me and to his son Ali, "Go to Abu Sa'id and listen to what he narrates." So we went and found him in a garden looking after it. He picked up his garment, wore it and sat down and started narrating to us until he mentioned the construction of the mosque. Therefore, he said, "We were carrying one adobe at a time while Ammar was carrying two. The Prophet, peace be upon him, saw him and started removing the dust from his body and said, "May Allah be merciful to Ammar. He (Ammar) will be murdered by a baghi group. He (Ammar) will be inviting them (i.e the baghi group) to paradise and they (i.e the baghi group) will be inviting him to HELL-FIRE.. 'Ammar said, "I seek refuge with Allah from affliction."

This hadith is mutawatir, as Imam Ibn 'Abd al-Barr (d. 463H) states:

The reports are mutawatir from the Prophet (s) stating that he said, "Ammar will be murdered by a baghi (rebellious) group". This was one of his prophecies, and one of the proofs of his prophethood (s) and it is one of the most authentic ahadith.

Ref: {al-Isti'ab fi Marifat al-Ashab, vol. 3, p. 1140 (Beirut: Far al-Jil; 1st edition, 1412H)}

# Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (d. 852H) also submits:

The ahadith are mutawatir from the Prophet (s) that Ammar would be murdered by the baghi group, and they (the scholars) had a consensus that he (Ammar) was murdered on the side of Ali at Siffin.
Ref: {al-Isabah fi Tamyiz al-Sahabah, vol.4, p. 474, #5720}

* Mu'awiyyah Was A Baghi person

# Al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir (d. 774H) explains further:

This was the murder of 'Ammar b. Yasir (ra) on the side of Amir al-Muminin ' Ali Ibn Abi Talib. He was murdered by the Syrian. From this, the secret of what the Messenger of Allah (s) had predicted that he ('Ammar) would be murdered by baghi group became clear. It became clear from this that 'Ali was upon the Truth and Mu'awiyyah was a baghi person.

Ref: {al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah (Dar Ihya al-Turath al-Arabi; 1st edition, 1408H), vol. 7, p. 296}

# BAGHI GROUP According to Quran

Quran reads:
"Verily, Allah commands you to do justice and kindness, and to give to kith and kin, and FORBIDS corrupt behaviours, evil deeds and al-baghi (i.e being a baghi person or group). He admonishes you, that you may take heed. {Q.16:90}

* Excuse For Mu'awiyah

Interestingly, Ibn Hajar ends his explanations (above) with the following:

"Yet, these people (i.e Sunnis), despite their condemnation (of the troops of Mu'awiyah) have a consensus that none of these people (i.e the baghi people) should be criticized. Rather, they (i.e Sunnis) say: They did ijtihad and made mistakes.

Ref: {Fath al-Bari Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari, vol. 13, p. 58}

This is also the opinion of an-Nawawi in Sahih Muslim bi Sharh al-Nawawi, vol.18, p. 40.

With the noble ayah that declared al-Baghi as Haram, Mu'awiyah and his armies were an illegitimate group. And the clear statement of the Prophet completely knocked out Sunni Ulama's flimsy excuse for Mu'awiyah.

Prophet clearly states:

"...He (Ammar) will be murdered by a baghi group. He (Ammar) will be inviting them (i.e the baghi group) to paradise and they (i.e the baghi group) will be inviting him to HELL-FIRE..."

The fact that Muawiyah and his groups were "callers to Hellfire" cast a huge shadow over their Islamic credentials. This is because whenever anyone is addressed as "calling to Hellfire", it means that he is a Kafir.

'Allamah al-Uthaymin (d. 1421H) states:

(And We made them leaders inviting to the Fire), He is referring to the leaders of Kuffar

Ref: {Fatawa Nur 'ala al-Darb, vol. 31, p. 111}

These (and more) are the reasons why Shia dissociate itself from these Sunni personalities.

# CLAIM 55: That Shia claimed One should curse the above after each prayer

* REPLY: This claim is a repetition of claim 4 which has been replied in part 1 (reply 4).
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 1:06pm On Jan 22, 2016
# CLAIM 56. Aishah (r.a) and Hafsah (r.a) poisoned Prophet Muhammed (s)

* REPLY: There is absolutely no SINGLE reliable and authentic hadith in Shia books of ahadith that claim this.

Obviously, this claim is based ONLY on Da'if (weak) or fabricated ahadith.

# The Yasiriyah, a deviant Shi'i group (see: Reply 4 of part 1), always use these da'if ahadith a lot to cause fitnah. All these Da'if ahadith can be found in Tafsir al-Ayyashi.

This Tafsir al-Ayyashi as a whole has two defects:

* No Sanad (chain of narration) for all hadith in it.

* The book itself has no known author. Though it is attributed to Sheik al-Ayyashi but he was not the primary author of the one we have in hands today.

Here is the introduction of the Tafsir:

"The servant, the one who is dependent upon the mercy of Allāh, said: “I looked into the Tafsir which was written by Abu al-Nadr Muḥammad b. Mas’ud b. Muḥammad b. ‘Ayyash al-Sulami with its chain, and I wanted that, and I requested anyone who heard (the Tafsir) from the author or from others. However, I could not find in my area anyone who has heard (from the author) or has permission from him (to narrate the Tafsir). I deleted the chain from it and wrote the rest as it was, to make it easier for the scribe and the reader. If I find, after that, anyone who has heard the author or has his permission, I will research the chains and will write them as the author had mentioned"

Ref: {al-Ayyashi, Kitab al-Tafsir (Tehran: al-Maktabah al-‘Ilmiyyah al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: Sayyid Hashim al-Rasuli al-Mahlati], vol. 1, p. 2}

Who is this "servant"? Nothing is known about him - not even his name. He is muhmal (untraceable). This Tafsir, however, is the work of this "unknown" servant. And by default, the book is Da'if together with everything in it (esp. the hadiths apart from the fact they do not have sanad) except whatever is transmitted elsewhere through a reliable sanad.

# CLAIM 57: That Shia believed Aishah (r.a) was a traitor and a hypocrite and she is remembered with the vilest epithets

* REPLY: It is obvious that the writer of these polemic claims has based his "points" largely upon the works or lectures of the noisy "Sheik" Yassir Habib, the founder of the Yasiri. No doubt this deviated group do remember Aishah "with vilest epithets".

Judging the mainstream Shia with the work and saying of this deviated group is like judging the mainstream Sunni with the work and saying of a "Sunni" offshoot, the Wahabi - the founding father of Boko haram, ISIL, al-Qaeda etc.

# SHI'A POSITION ON AISHA

There are lots of Sunni ahadith in praise of Aisha. As these sets of ahadith established her excellence, so also there are others (Sunni ahadith) that blatantly contradicted them. For brevity, we rely on the holy Quran and Sunni Tafsir to establish Shi'a position on the wives of the Prophet in general and Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha in particular.

* Allah warned the wives generally:

"O wives of the Prophet! you are not like any other of the women; IF YOU DO FEAR (ALLAH)..." Ref: {sura Ahzab: 32}

The condition attached here for excellence is Taqwa (fear of Allah). Blood or marital relations with the Prophet (s) does not give automatic excellence. Prophet Noah had a son, and wife that deviated from the right path [see: Sura Hud and sura Tahrim for details].

* Quran continues:

"O wives of the prophet! whoever of you commits an open indecency, the punishment shall be increased to her doubly; and this is easy to Allah.

And whoever of you is obedient to Allah and His Apostle and does good, We will give to her reward doubly, and We have prepared for her an honorable sustenance." Ref: [sura Ahzab: 30-31]

* AISHA - A CASE STUDY
A whole chapter of the holy Quran {surah Tahrim} accused Umm Mu'mineen Aisha [and Hafsah] of the following:

* divulging secrets of their husband (saws

* plotting against the Prophet

* having a Zaghat (deviated) heart.

* weakness of 6 excellent virtues

Interestingly, sura Tahrim was the last update on Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha. While we leave the first two accusations for brevity, we focus on the last two.

* ZAGHAT HEART
"If you both (Aisha and Hafsa) turn in repentance to Allah, for indeed, your hearts have deviated.. ." [Sura Tahrim: 4]

# Imam Al-Tabari writes:

Narrated ibn Abbas: His Statement {If you both (women) repent to Allah (swt), for your hearts have become CROOKED} means, "YOUR HEARTS HAVE DEVIATED. Your hearts have committed sins."

Narrated Mujahid: "We used to think that His statement [Your hearts have CROOKED] is an easy matter until we heared the Qirah of ibn Mas'ood (If you both (women) repent to Allah (swt), FOR YOUR HEARTS HAVE DEVIATED)."

Narrated Qatadah: [Your hearts have become CROOKED] means your hearts have SWERVED. Narrated AlDahak: [Your hearts have become CROOKED] means, "(Your hearts have) DEVIATED." Narrated Sufyan (Al-Thawri): (Your hearts have become CROOKED) means "Your hearts have DEVIATED."
Ref: Tafsir Al-Tabari. Vol. 23, Pg. # 93 - 94}

# Imam Al-Qurtubi also writes:

The Statement of Allah (swt) {If you both (women) repent to Allah (swt)} referring to Hafsah and A'isha upon repentance for what occurred from both in terms of swerving into opposition to what the Messenger of Allah (saw) loved. {Your hearts have become CROOKED} meaning, "(Your hearts have) DEVIATED AND SWERVED FROM THE HAQQ" and that what loving what the Prophet (saw) hated.

Ref: Al-Jami Al-Ahkam Al-Qur'aan. Vol. 21, Pg. # 83

# Imam Ibn al-Jawzi (d.597H) add this:

"Then He (Allah) addresses 'Aisha and Hafsah, saying: {If you both repent to Allah}, meaning from helping each other against the Messenger of Allah to hurt him. {For your hearts have deviated} Ibn 'Abbas said, "They (the hearts) deviated, and deviated from the Truth." Mujahid said, "We used to consider His words, the Almighty {For your hearts have deviated} has something easy until we found it in the recitation of Ibn Mas'ud as: {for your hearts have deviated (zaghat)."

Ref: {Zad al-Masir fi 'Ilm al-Tafsir (Beirut: Dar al-Fikr; 1st edition, 1407H),vol.8, p.52}

* LACKING IN 6 VIRTUES
Allah addressed the two Mothers of believers (Aisha and Hafsah):

"Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place WIVES BETTER THAN YOU, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, who fast, widows and virgins." [sura Tahrim: 5]

It is crystal clear from these two verses that both Umm al-mu'minin were not the best among the wives of the Prophet, and obviously not the best among the believing women (of the time).

# THE FIRST CIVIL WAR IN ISLAM

The first civil war, battle of Jamal, left thousands of Muslims died. This battle was instigated by Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha alongside prominent Sahabah, Talha and Zubair. They all fought against the Righteous Khalifah of their time, Ali ibn Abi Talib.

* While Sunni Ulama believed Ali ibn Abi Talib (and those with him) was on the right path, they also tried their utmost best to absolve Aisha (and those with her) of wrongdoing especially when this verse is considered:

"And stay (O wives of the Prophet) in your houses and do not display your finery like the displaying of the ignorance of yore; ..." [sura Ahzab: 32]

* Obviously, two right paths can never fight.

# THE PROPHECY

Allamah Nasir deen Al-Albani documents:

* Narrated Abu Sa'id:

"We were sitting, waiting for the Messenger of Allah (s). Then he came to us from the room of one of his wives. So, we stood with him. But his shoe broke, and he appointed Ali to stay behind to repair it. Then, the Messenger of Allah (s), walked and we walked with him. He (the Prophet (saw)) stood up, waiting for him (i.e. Ali) and we stood with him. Then he said: There is among you one who will fight over the ta'wil (interpretation) of this Qur'an, just as I fought over its tanzil (revelation).

Each of us wished it was him, and among us were Abu Bakr and Umar. But he (the Prophet (saw)) said: "No. He is only the repairer of the shoe" referring to Ali (ra). We went to him (i.e. Ali) to give him the good news. But he responded as though he had earlier heard it."

Footnote: Hadeeth is Sahih (Authentic).

Ref: Al-Silsilah Al-Ahadeeth Al-Saheehah. Vol. 5, Pg. # 639 - 640, H. # 2487

Bottom-line, whoever fought against 'Ali, has indeed fought against the truth, Quran. It is with these facts (and many more) that Shi'a do not take Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha as role model yet our Imams forbid her vilification let alone cursing her.

# THE TITLE "UMM AL-MU'MININ"

Umm al-mu'minin (mother of believers) is a term used in the holy Quran for the wives of the Prophet including Aisha.

Allah says:

"The Prophet has a greater claim on the faithful than they have on themselves, and his wives are (as) their mothers; ..." [sura Ahzab: 6]

* Allamah al-Tabatabai (d. 1412H) explains:

"His statement {and his wives are their mothers} is a legal status, that is, they (the wives of the Prophet) are to them (i.e the believers) of the status of their mothers, in terms of the obligatoriness of honouring them and the prohibition of marrying them after the Prophet, peace be upon him and his family."

Ref: {al-Mizan fi Tafsir al-Quran (Qum: Manshurat Jama'at al-Mudarisin fi al-Hawzah al-Ilmiyyah), vol.16, p.277

* Ayatullah Makarim al-Shirazi also submit

"As for the issue of the wives of the Prophet (s), even though they are not biological mothers (to the believers), except that they are spiritual mothers, derived from the rank and honour of the Prophet (s). It is obligatory to honour them as mothers. When we see that the Quran has forbidden marriage to the wives of the Prophet (s), in the previous verse, this is another instance of respect to them and respect to the Prophet (s)."

R: {Nasir Makarim al-Shirazi, al-Amthal fi Tafsir Kitab Allah al-Munzal, vol.13, p.171}

Obviously, with whatever sin or misconduct Aisha committed, she did not loose the title of "Mother of believer". Likewise the title does not erase her sins and misconduct. Just like our biological mothers, even if they were unbelievers and transgressors, Quran forbid us to be rude or used vilified words for them. We are to respect them but not to take them as model.

* A SUPPORTING SHI'I HADITH

Sheik al-Saduq (d. 381 H) records:

My father, may Allah be merciful to him – Sa’d b. ‘Abd Allah – ‘Abd Allah b. Ja’far – Mas’adah b. Ziyad – Ja’far b. Muḥammad – his father, peace be upon them both: Marwan b. al-Ḥakam said:

“When ‘Ali, peace be upon him, defeated us at Basra, he returned to the people their properties. Whoever presented evidence, he gave him; and whoever did not present evidence, he made him swear (by Allah). Then, someone said to him, ‘O Amir al-Muminin! Distribute the war booty and the war captives among us.’ When they became many making repeated demands from him, he said, ‘Which of you will take Umm al-Muminin as part of his share?’ Then, they stopped.”

Ayatollah al-Muḥsini says about it: Mu’tabarah (Reliable)

Ref: {'Ilal al-Sharai [Najaf: al-Maktabah al-Haydariyah; 1386H], vol.2, p.603, #69}.

* Obviously from this hadith, Imam Ali preserved the "Umm al-Mu'minin" title for Aisha which send message of respect to those who wanted to belittle her by demanding "war booty" that included her.

* The deviated Yasiriyah (whose works and sayings the author of these polemic claims continue to reference) never adhere to these authentic Shi'i Tafsir and hadith. This make them err in vilifying Aisha and Hafsah.

# CLAIM 58. Aishah (r.a) committed adultery

* REPLY: No wife of ANY Prophet committed adultery. Even the wives of Prophet Noah and Prophet Lut whose abode had been confirmed to be hell-fire, their crimes were never adultery (see sura Tahrim).

# When some Munafiq (hypocrites) from among the Sahabah lied that Aishah has committed adultery, Allah revealed ayah in Sura Nur rebuking these liars and absolving Aishah of this crime. After the death of the Prophet (s), none of his wives EVER committed adultery. We seek Allah's refuge from this silly talk.

# The claim above, however, is another lies of the Yasiriyah against Aishah. Their evidences are the bulk of ahadith in Tafsir al-Qummi [which alleged Zina to a certain woman whose name is not even mentioned but presumed to be Aisha].

Just like the first Tafsir explained earlier, Tafsir al-Qummi, though attributed to Ali b. Ibrahim al-Qummi, is not the primary work of Ali b. Ibrahim al-Qummi.

Interestingly, ALL the ahadith in this Tafsir al-Qummi have this SINGLE weak sanad (chain of transmitter):

* "Me – Abu al-Faḍl al-‘Abbas b. Muḥammad b. al-Qasim b. Ḥamzah b. Musa b. Ja’far, peace be upon him – Abu al-Ḥasan ‘'Ali b. Ibrahim"

Ref: {Abu al-Ḥasan ‘Ali b. Ibrahim al-Qummi, Tafsir al-Qummi (Najaf Printing Office; 1387 H) [annotator: Sayyid Tayyib al-Musawi al-Jazairi]}

* The “me” who directly passed the Tafsīr to us is absolutely anonymous, untraceable and unknown; and Abu al-Fadl al-‘Abbas b. Muḥammad is muhmal (untraceable) too. So, the chain attributed to ‘Ali b. Ibrahim al-Qummi is ḍa’if jiddan (very weak). It is therefore NO evidence at all, nor does it in any way establish the view of al-Qummi on the alleged zina of ‘Aishah

Haters will never desist from deliberate usage of fabricated or very weak ahadith from Shi'i books of ahadith in their quest of maligning the beliefs and teachings of Shia Muslims.

# CLAIM 59. Less than ten Sahabah remained on Islam after the Prophet’s death

* REPLY: Same claim as Claim 53. And it has been Answered in Reply 53
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 8:52am On Feb 28, 2016
* CLAIM 60: That Shias believe in the concept of 12 Imams.

* * REPLY : This is absolutely correct. ONLY Shia Muslims (ithna Ashariyah) believe in this concept. That after the prophet, ONLY 12 Imams or Khalifahs or Amir are (were) legitimately appointed by the Prophet to succeed him. IMAM, KHALIFAH and AMIR are synonymously used by the Prophet (s).

Following are few references from Sunni authentic sources:

# Imam Ahmad records:

Jabir b. Samurah: I heard the Messenger of Allah (s) saying, or the Messenger of Allah (s) said: “THERE WILL BE AFTER ME TWELVE KHALĪFAHS, all of them from Quraysh.”

Sheik Al-Arnaut comments: A sahih hadith

Ref: {Musnad (Cairo: Muasassat Qurtubah) [annotator: Shu’ayb al-Arnaut], vol. 5, p. 92, # 20890}

# Imam Ahmad further records:

Jabir b. Samurah: I heard the Prophet (s) saying: "There will be FOR THIS UMMAH TWELVE KHALIFAHS."

Shaykh al-Arnaut says: Hadith Sahih

Ref: {Musnad (Cairo: Muasassat Qurtubah) [annotator: Shuaib al-Ar'naut], vol. 5, p. 106, #21051}

# Imam Muslim

‘Amir b. Sa’d b. Abi Waqqas: I sent a letter to Jabir b. Samurah through my servant, Nafi, to inform me of something he heard from the Messenger of Allah (s). So, he wrote in reply back to me: “I heard the Messenger of Allah (s) saying on a Friday, on the eve of the stoning of al-Aslami, saying:

‘The religion will never cease to stand until the establishment of the Hour or as long as THERE ARE TWELVES KHALIFAHS OVER YOU, all of them from Quraysh.’”

Ref: Sahih Muslim, Vol 3, p.1453, #1822 (10)

# Imam Ahmad records:

Jabir b. Samurah: I heard the Messenger of Allah (s) saying, "THERE WILL BE AFTER ME TWELVE AMIRS"...

al-Ar'naut comments: It is Sahih hadith...

Ref: {Musnad (Cairo: Muasassat Qurtubah) [annotator: Shuaib al-Ar'naut], vol. 5, p. 99, #20978}

#. Imam al-Tirmidhi says about the same hadith: This hadith is Hasan Sahih

And Allamah al-Albani agrees: Sahih

Ref: {al-Jami al-Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi (Beirut: Dar Ihya al-Turath al-Arabi)[annotator: Muhammad Nasir din al-Albani], vol.4, p.501,#2223}

# Imam Ibn Abi Asim

Abu Barzah said: “The Messenger of Allah (s) said: ‘The IMAMS are from Quraysh.’”

Al-Albani comments:
It is a sahih hadith. Its chain is Hasan.

Ref: Kitab al-Sunnah (al-Maktab al-Islami; 1st edition, 1400 H) [annotator: al-Albani], vol.2, p.532, #1125

# Imam Abu Ya'la (d. 307H)

Anas (ra): The Messenger of Allah (s) said: “The IMAMS are from Quraysh.”

Shaykh Dr. Asad says: Its chain is sahih

Ref: Musnad (Damascus: Dar al-Mamun li al-Turath; 1st edition, 1404 H) [annotator: Dr. H. Salim Asad], vol. 6, p. 321, # 3644

* Sunni NEVER believed in the concept of 12 Khalifah or Imams FOR THIS UMMAH (as explicitly stated by the Prophet).

* There are some Sunni Ulama [e.g Ibn Taymiyyah, Jalaludeen Suyuti et al] who tried to adhere to this hadith (of 12 Khalifah) by mentioning the names of these 12 Khalifahs. However there was NO consensus. NEVER.

* For the record, Sunni Khilafah (Caliphate) ended in the 19th century of the Ottoman empire. Sunni Khalifahs altogether are more than 40.

* CLAIM 61: That The Imams are appointed by Allah just as the Prophets.

* * REPLY : Absolutely correct. In fact, Imamah started with Prophet Ibrahim and Allah FIXED it forever in his progeny ONLY.

VERSE OF AL-IMAMAH

"And when Ibrahim was tried by his Lord with some statements, and he fulfilled them, He said, 'I will appoint you an IMAM of mankind.' He (Ibrahim) asked, 'And of my offspring?'. He (Allah) replied, 'My Covenant shall not reach the wrongdoers" {Quran 2:124}

# Al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir comments:

"...When he fulfilled the huge obligations which his Lord commanded him with, he appointed him the IMAM of mankind, whom they must follow, and whose guidance they must copy. He requested Allah that this IMAMAH be connected with his lineage, and be UNINTERRUPTED within his offspring, and be PERPETUAL FOREVER among his offspring. So, what he asked WAS GRANTED, and he was granted full authority of IMAMAH, and the wrong-doers were excluded from its reach and it was made exclusive to the righteous scholars among his offspring."

Ref: {Ibn Kathir,'Qisas al-Anbiya', vol.1 p. 232; 'al-Bidayah wa al-Nihaya, vol.1 p. 191

* CLAIM 62: That The 12 Imams are on the same level and are on par with Prophet Muhammed (s)

* * REPLY : Baseless. The same level in what? In status or proximity to Allah? Muhammad Rasulullah [salallahu alaihi wa ahli] is the BEST of Allah's entire creature. No creature equal him (s) in status or proximity to Allah.

There are explicit sermons of Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib regarding this in Nahj al-Balagha [Path of Eloquence].

* EXCEPTIONAL CASE OF EQUALITY

# Allamah al-Albani copied this hadith of the holy Prophet (s):

"Whosoever loves Ali has loved me. And whosoever loves me has loved Allah the Almighty. Moreover, whosoever hates Ali has hated me. And whosoever hates me has hated Allah the Almighty."

Albani comments: Al-Mukhlis recorded it in al-Fawaid al-Muntaqat (10/5/1) with a Sahih chain from Umm Salamah.

Ref: Silsilah al-Ahadith al-Sahihah wa Shayhun min Fiqhihah wa Fawaidihah (Riyadh: Maktabah al-Ma'arifah Li al-Nashr wa al-Tawzi; 1st edition, 1415H), vol.3, p.287-288,#1299.

* Imam Ahmad (d. 241 H); Imam al-Hakim (d. 403 H); Imam al-Haythami (d. 807 H) et al recorded this or similar hadith.

• The same hadith is repeated for Imam al-Hassan and Imam al-Hussein.

# Imam Ibn Majah (d. 273 H) records:

"Abu Hurairah: The messenger of Allah (s) said: Whoever loves al-Hassan and al-Hussein has loved me; and whoever hates them has hated me."

Abd al-Baqi comments: Sahih (authentic)

al-Albani comments: Hasan (sound)

Ref: Sunan Ibn Majah (Dar al-Fikr) [annotator: Muhammad Fuad Abd al-Baqi], vol. 1, p.51, #143}

Those are the rare instance of equality.

* CLAIM 63: That the first Imam is Ali and the last Imam is hiding since the age of five in a cave in Iraq

* * REPLY : INTRODUCTION

* We have proven beyond any doubt that Prophet designated 12 Khalifahs FOR this Ummah. And all from Quraysh.

* Quraysh is a very large clan with lots of families.

* The fact that Allah says Imamah is His covenant that "... shall not reach the wrongdoers" {Quran 2:124}

* Sunni Imam al-Tabari in the Tafsir of this verse records with Sahih chain from Mujahid that he said: "{My Covenant shall not reach the wrongdoers}: There will never be an IMAM who does wrong."

* The office of Imamah is too sensitive in its functions ('Guide of Mankind'[Quran]) to be left at the hands of Qurayshite Clan to choose who assume the office at a time owing to the fact that many of them were wrong-doers. Prophet however declared the EXACT family of Quraysh where his Khalifahs will emerged.

# Imam al-Fasawi (d. 277 H); Imam Ahmad (d. 241 H); Imam Ibn Abi Shaybah (d. 235 H); Imam Ibn Asim (d. 287), all recorded HADITH KHALIFATAIN (narration of Two Caliphs).

# Allamah Nasir deen al-Albani copies:

The Messenger of Allah (s) said: "I am leaving behind over you TWO KHALIFAHS: the Book of Allah - a rope stretching between the heaven and the earth - and MY OFFSPRING, my Ahl al-Bayt. Verily, both shall never separate from each other until they meet me at the Lake-Font."

Al-Albani comments: Sahih (authentic)

Ref: {Sahih al-Jami al-Saghir wa Ziyadatuhu, vol. 1, p. 482, #2457}

* So, Prophet's offspring from his Ahl al-bayt are his designated Khalifah alongside Quran. Any "Khalifah" outside his offspring or Ahl al-Bayt are illegitimate.

• THE FIRST KHALIFAH INTRODUCED

# Imam Ibn Asim (d. 287) documents:

Ibn Abbas (ra) reports: "The Messenger of Allah (s) said to 'Ali: "You are to me of the STATUS of Harun to Musa, with the EXCEPTION that you are not a prophet. And you are MY KHALIFAH over every believer AFTER ME."

Dr. Al-Jawabirah says: Its chain is Hasan

Ref: {'Kitab al-Sunnah (Dar al-Sami'i li al-Nahr wa al-Tawhi) [annotator: Dr. Al-Jawabirah], vol. 1, p. 799 - 800, #1222}

# 'Allamah al-Albani also comments: Its chain is hasan (sound).

Ref: {Kitab Sunnah (al-Maktab al-Islami; 1st Edition, 1400H) [annotator: Nasir deen al-Albani], vol. 2, p. 565, #1188

• [Other versions of the Hadith:]

# Imam al-Hakim (d. 403H) declares: This hadith has a SAHIH chain.
Ref: {Al-Mustadrak ala al-Sahihayn, vol. 3, p. 143, #4652}

* Imam al-Dhahabi (d. 748H) concurs with Imam al-Hakim: SAHIH (authentic).

# Allamah Ahmad Shakir: Its Chain is sahih
Ref: {Musnad Imam Ahmad (Dar alHadith, 1416H) [annotator: Ahmad Shakir] vol. 1, p. 331, #3062}

# Imam al-Busiri (d. 840H): A sahih chain
Ref: {Itihaf al-khiyarah al-Maharah bi Zawaid al-Masanid al-'Ashara, vol. 7, p. 184, #6630

# Imam al-Nasai (d. 303H): Ref: {Sunan al-Kubra, vol. 5, p. 112, #8409}

NB: Kindly check Claim/Reply 1&2 for further reference in Hadith al-Wilayah.

• SUNNI OBJECTION TO THIS SAHIH HADITH

While many Sunni scholars kept mute on this hadith, Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah declared it to be a fabrication. Funnily, he gave NO reason.

* Sheik al-Albani weirdly writes:

'As for what the Shi'ah mention about this hadith and others that the Prophet (s) said about 'Ali (r) that "he is my Khalifah after me", it is NOT authentic for many reasons. Rather, it is one of their (i.e Shi'is') several fabrications, which are exposed as lies by history. If truly the Prophet (s) had said it, it would have occurred as predicted, because it is revelation revealed, and Allah never betrays His promise."

Ref: {Silsilah al-Ahadith al-Sahihah wa Shayhun min Fiqhihah wa Fawaidihah, vol. 4, p. 344, #1750}

REBUTTALS:
1. Wasn't the Sheik al-Albani himself that authenticate the hadith? Why did he allowed himself to be baited by Ibn Taymiyyah's feeble card?

2. The caliber of al-Albani is too high to interpret that the hadith is Shi'a's "fabrication" DUE TO HISTORY because history says Abu Bakr was the Khalifah after the Prophet and not 'Ali!

* Does the Sheik not read the Qur'an about Nabi Musa and Nabi Harun?

(A). Allah reveal in Surah Nisa: 64 that Messengers are to be Obeyed. While the same Qur'an reveal that Musa and Harun were Messengers (sura Taha: 47).

So can we conclude in line with the Sheik argument that all the Messengers (esp. Harun) that were rejected by their people were fake Prophets because their rejection tantamount to 'Allah's promise not been fulfilled?

(B). Interestingly, Nabi Harun was not only a Messenger but also a KHALIFAH of Nabi Musa. Qur'an says:
"Musa said to his brother, Harun: 'Be my KHALIFAH over my people." (Q. 7:142)

In Qur'an 20: 85, Allah reveal to Musa while he was away: "...We have tried your people in your absence, and al-Samiri has led them astray." and Qur'an 7: 150 revealed that when Musa came back angrily, he questioned his brother Harun the state of affair and his Khilafa-ship over them. Harun told him they nearly killed him while they usurped the position.

Going with al-Albani's interpretations, were the messengership and khalifa-ship of Harun false and invalid because history did not fulfill his appointment which no doubt was revelation?

No doubt! Seikh al-Albani knew this but its too hard for him to accept. Should he ever agree, his Aqeedah will definitely sink; hence, there is a need to attack and call Shi'a all sort of names. How many of his adherents also took this bait by following his interpretation!

• THE LAST IMAM INTRODUCED

# Imam al-Hakim (d. 403H) documents:

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri "The Messenger of Allah (s) said, "The Mahdi will come out at the END of my Ummah."

Al-Hakim and al-Dhahabi comment: Sahih

Ref: {Al-Mustadrak 'ala al-Sahihayn, vol. 4, p. 601, #8673}

* The grand Salafi scholar, Shaykh Ibn Uthaymin (d. 1421H) writes in his commentary of al-'Aqidah al-Safariniyyah:

"His statement (the Last, Eloquent Imam): that is, from the signs of the Hour is the Imam. 'The Imam (here) refers to the one who leads mankind, not (just) in salat but in government. This Imam will be their supreme Imam, as the Khalifah.

He says that he (al-Mahdi) is the last, the last of whom? The last of the Imams, because there will be NO Imam after him. As such, he is the LAST of the Imams. His name is Muhammad, and his title is "the Mahdi", meaning the one who has been guided by Allah the Almighty. This is the Mahdi who will be SENT during the End of Time, when the earth will have been filled with injustice and oppression and the truth will have been forgotten... At that period, Allah the Almighty will SEND this man as a male Imam to reform THE CREATION and to restore the truth"

Ref: {Sharh al-'Aqidah al-Safariniyyah, p. 450-451}

• IS MAHDI HIDDEN IN A CAVE IN IRAQ?

# Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah submits:

The Imamiyyah (Shia) who claim that he had a son that he (the son) entered the cellar in Samara while he was still young. Among them are those who say that his age (at that time) was two. Among them are also those who say it was three. And among them are those who say it was five years. Ref: {Minhaj al-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah, vol. 4, p. 87-88}

This claim is a very wide-spread claim among the Sunni. Is it true that the Shi'ah Imamiyyah make any such statement, that the last Imam entered a cellar in Samara near Baghdad, Iraq (or anywhere else) while he was still young?

The correct Shi'i opinion is that none knows the location of the Imam except some special members of his family.

# Sheik Al-Kulayni reports:

Ishaq b. Ammar: Abu 'Abd Allah (a) said: "The Qaim will have two disappearances: one of them will be short and the other will be long. In the first disappearance, none will know his location in it except his special Shi'ah; and in the other, none will know his location in it except his special relatives."
Ref: {al-Usul min al-Kafi, vol. 1, p. 340, #19}

Al-Majlisi says: Muwaththaq (Reliable)

Al-Haj Muhammad Zakariyyah: Its chain is Sahih or muwaththaq.

* Allamah al-Majlisi explains the hadith:

"{Except his special relatives} meaning, his servants, family and children."
Ref: {Mir-at al-'Uqul fi Sharh Akhbar Al al-Rasul, vol. 4. 52}

• If those are the ones who know his location, naturally, that CANNOT be the cellar which is known to all and sundry!

# Sheik Kulayni further documents an Hadith which proves that Imam al-Mahdi (as) do regularly comes out of his location to attend Hajj rites:

'Abd Allah b. Ja'far al-Himyari: I heard Muhammad b. Uthman al-'Umari (r) saying: "By Allah, the Master of this Affair surely attends the pilgrimage every year. So, he sees the people and recognizes them. They too see him but do not recognize him."
Ref: {Kamal al-Din wa Tamam al-Ni'mah, p.440, Ch. 43, #8}

Al-Haj Muhammad Zakariya: Its chain is Sahih.

* Some Sunni Ulama claimed "Shi'a Imam Mahdi" entered an imaginary cellar as a child, and never came out of it, and will only come out of it upon his reappearance. How is that reconciliable with the Sahih Shi'i hadith above^?

Besides, if every sundry knows this imaginary cellar, would that not have always massed together at its entrance near every Hajj season to witness him come out of it?

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Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by AlBaqir(m): 8:53am On Feb 28, 2016
To be continued in sha Allah
Re: 110 Allegations Against Shi'a With Response From Shi'a Mainstream by Nobody: 9:47am On Feb 28, 2016
vedaxcool:
Khomeini (la) says the Prophet (s) was afraid in preaching the Imamate of Ali because of the opposition party, indirectly labelling Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and others as the opposition party, and says they were hungry for the government, rather he says they embraced Islam for this very purpose.


“From these evidences and large number of ahadith, we come to know that the Prophet (s) feared the people regarding the preaching of Imamate (of Ali). And if someone reads the books of history and reports, he will understand that the Prophet’s (fear) had a valid reason. But God had ordered him to convey it and He had promised his safety and he (i.e the Prophet) had conveyed it too and he struggled for it till his end, but the opposition party didn’t let him accomplish his job.”
Kashaful Asrar, p. 130-131
D prophet has warn d muslim never to lie or insult any of his companion. d shia group are liars nd out of islam, dey do nt 4llo d prophet

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