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coolsix:
I dont know about quran or kuran or whatever, the Bible made us know that "When the Holy Spirit came upon them, it was like tongues of fire upon their heads and they spoke in foreign language. The people thought they were mad......"

So mr Man, The Bible Tongues is not understood by anybody only the One true King Of Kings(Who you are speaking to in Tongues) or a Man of God who is also in Spirit with you(He can translate).

So if you are looking to promote your site.. don't mess with the Word of God in the process

Also as for selling materials, even the bible itself is a spiritual material being sold. the annointing oil is one That does not make them fake.

Just that... the rest may be true but just the two of them i clear

Foreign language means language spoken in another land it didn't say in some spiritual kuvuki land. When the disciples visited other countries they spoke the foreign languages spoken there. So u are wrong. Sha bra bra is evil. The op is right! Wake up!

Smartsyn:
I have problems sir, but I know how to contact God myself.

Tell am say God dey your contact list. You get am for BBM sef. Una dey chat on WhatsApp even. God na your FB friend. And una dey follow eachother for Twitter and Instagram.

So after all these, wetin you still need to contact God when you get all these medium at your beck and call?

chinkelly:
Foreign language means language spoken in another land it didn't say in some spiritual kuvuki land. When the disciples visited other countries they spoke the foreign languages spoken there. So u are wrong. Sha bra bra is evil. The op is right! Wake up!

No mind that one. Him wan claim wisdom.

Ree ka ba ba ba ba ba san torobo... San to reeeeeee ma...

seggzz:
Pastor, according to acts chapter 2 verse 6, we were made to know those people of other languages understood them.

What is the biblical purpose of speaking in tongues?

If the purpose is to speak with angels, which language will be use to communicate with God?

If I may understand, the sole aim of speaking is for ministry and not for self glory. The Bible made us know that speaking in tongues has stopped.

If you are doing some of the points highlighted in my thread then you must be fake. If you're not fake, can you tell me the color of shirt I'm with now?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. This guy no get joy ooooooo.

seggzz:
I'm not a fake person because God Almighty can't create fake things. Who told you I'm a prophet? Those points are base on people experience and Holy Books references.

base on people experience and not ur own experience,,,which Church do you attend

Let sharply share mine, my guy was having some ish with some guys at his work, naso one of his client (alfa) told him he has a message for him, so he called me to go together thinking it was a just an information..he took us to a private room close to his shop, started saying he is next to shehu coz he promised his father not to leave his job that's why he continued as alfa, to cut the long story short, he said my friend has a problem with some people, that we have option of carrying sacrifice in a black calabash @ 1am or he would prepare a soap to bath @ 1am aswell, I asked him that instead of doing any of these, why can't he pray for him.. He said to pray is not problem but it might be slow..(an Alfa)
Na soo me and my guy do Usain bolt oh

Your 8 & 9 no make Total Sense. What is d source of ur information.... Holy Spirit? Leave the matter for Mathias, U no b God!

seggzz:
The Bible made us know that speaking in tongues has stopped.

Quote the verse pls

Joysmith2:
base on people experience and not ur own experience,,,which Church do you attend

I'm spiritual free thinker

noblegrex:
did you understand any tongues. How many of the tongue can you interprete yourself. How do you know their tongued is demonic when you cannnot interprete normal tongue.well, I'll strongly agree with you if you said you understand and can interprete tongues anyways.

I'm sure Google can translate your so called tongues if your tongue is a language people can understand. They only make some sounds and call it tongue.

seggzz:
I'm sure Google can translate your so called tongues if your tongue is a language people can understand. They only make some sounds and call it tongue.

well, I don't need google for that. Its a very simple thing.well,that aside. My questions is; do you understand tongues.put differently;can you interprete it even when you're in church and some one is speaking.

aperture11:
Bro, I question your understanding of the bible in this regard. Please study to know not to criticize. I have tried to answer all the questions you raised but only the Holy Spirit can teach you. You see your problem with understanding this scripture is that you have a negative mindset about it. While Paul was trying to make a strong case for prophecy because it is a higher gift, he made some salient points about speaking in tongues too. Infact he said I thank my God that I speak in tongues more than ye all. Interpretation of tongues is a gift too and some people do have them.

I have explained to you earlier my brother, that there are 2 manifestations of speaking in tongues. If you have heard of the Azusa conference of 1904, there was manifestation of the 2. My brother, it is important that we run this race personally, discount what you've been told by your pastors and ask God for accurate knowledge of his word. He will grant it to you. The Holy Spirit teaches us all things.
Personally, I speak in tongues and I see the benefits everyday, the testimonies are endless. If you say someone is learning the thing or faking it, let them, the Holy Spirit can take over from there.

I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he INTERPRET , that the church may receive edifying.
1 Corinthians:14:5

He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth EDIFIETH the church.
1 Corinthians:14:4

Do you interprete your tongues? What's the sole purpose of speaking in tongues? Is there any ways speaking in tongues in the Bible the same from now?

noblegrex:
well, I don't need google for that. Its a very simple thing.well,that aside. My questions is; do you understand tongues.put differently;can you interprete it even when you're in church and some one is speaking.

The Bible say if there is no interpreter you should stop the tongues. Can you type out your own tongues? Does the Bible say it is the same tongues for all Christians? Don't you know people of those days hear the preaching in their different languages by the apostles? And meanwhile the apostles can't speak those languages on ordinary situation.

Are you saying you passed the remaining points highlighted on this topic except tongues? Are you a prophet? Send me your phone number and lets talk.

"The prophet is fake if he tells you to beg for N1K from 20 people to perform "Ise Itiju" (Spiritual assignment where your glory will come from a shameful act) and like the world class mugu you are, you start to beg for N1K from everybody in your household, neighbours and friends alike".

"Culled from Chapter 2, Pg 16 of A fake prophet's guide to spotting a world class mugu".

nogames:
Please read you bible very well, tongues are language that understood but non of those around the speaker might understand it. It is called foreign language not heavely. In your example the person you said he was in spirit and understood the pastor have GIFT OF INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES is in the bible i will add refrence when day break. The problem is that, the language may be from any part of the world so it very rare to come by those who understand it, but there were testimonies even outside the bible, where somebody around the speaker testified he was speaking in his local language

Baba no mind them ooo;
the bible says in 1cor 14 vs 27:
If anyone speaks in a tongue, two or at the
most three should speak, one at a time, and
someone MUST interpret.
1 cor 14 vs 28 :
But if there be no interpreter ,let him KEEP SILENT in the church, Let him speak to himself and to God.

defendedvictim:
Every prophet was a hit, from back to back. From Jeremiah to Ezekiel to Amos to Joel..Tb Joshua ti take over.



Egbon, If u want your prophesy, come and collect it

This is not funny at all, using prophets of God to play. May God forgive you.

unilagfreshest:
Let sharply share mine, my guy was having some ish with some guys at his work, naso one of his client (alfa) told him he has a message for him, so he called me to go together thinking it was a just an information..he took us to a private room close to his shop, started saying he is next to shehu coz he promised his father not to leave his job that's why he continued as alfa, to cut the long story short, he said my friend has a problem with some people, that we have option of carrying sacrifice in a black calabash @ 1am or he would prepare a soap to bath @ 1am aswell, I asked him that instead of doing any of these, why can't he pray for him.. He said to pray is not problem but it might be slow..(an Alfa)
Na soo me and my guy do Usain bolt oh

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ewosk:
if what the op wrote is accurate guess there are fake prophets in your fold.......

Egbon ...they are everywhere...no be only in my fold!

seggzz:
I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he INTERPRET , that the church may receive edifying.
1 Corinthians:14:5

He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth EDIFIETH the church.
1 Corinthians:14:4

Do you interprete your tongues? What's the sole purpose of speaking in tongues? Is there any ways speaking in tongues in the Bible the same from now?

This is exactly what I was trying to tell you. You do not read the Bible to understand, you read to criticize. smh. Paul was making a case that the gift of prophesy is higher than speaking in tongues. You successfully ignored the part where he said "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries".1Cor 14:2 You see what it means, which I have explained to you is that when you speak to the brethren in tongues you MUST interpret but when you speak unto God, you don't need to because God understands you. The speaking in tongues is a gift, Paul said, Do all speak in tongues 1 Cor 12:30, that you or your Pastor doesn't have the gift doesn't make those who have it evil and it doesn't make you less of a Christian either. It is the Holy Spirit that gives these gifts and does so according to the assignment we've been given.

My brother, your walk with Christ will be largely ineffective if you don't have the right attitude to studying the word. Also, do not read the word of God out of context, don't pick verses that agree with your opinion, that is what your understanding is about the part in Chapter 13:8 which says tongues will cease. You read that part alone and you are quoting it forgetting that it is actually a verse in a chapter.

I pray that God will grant you deeper revelation of his word that your walk in Christ might be effective, but you need to drop this attitude to get that understanding. Have a Blessed life!

seggzz:
I'm spiritual free thinker

I thank God for you, you need to be a spiritual free thinker to get the best out of Christianity. You should however ensure that you discount preconceived notions when you study the word. My understanding of the scripture has been in increasing measures and when I have greater revelation, I put away the old revelation and run with the new revelation. That is the beauty of our walk with God, revelation is progressive and it is from glory to glory.
Consider Pastor Kumuyi, there was a time he felt TV was evil and today he has a TV ministry, it takes humility to leave what you've always believed and embrace greater revelation.

aperture11:
This is exactly what I was trying to tell you. You do not read the Bible to understand, you read to criticize. smh. Paul was making a case that the gift of prophesy is higher than speaking in tongues. You successfully ignored the part where he said "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries".1Cor 14:2 You see what it means, which I have explained to you is that when you speak to the brethren in tongues you MUST interpret but when you speak unto God, you don't need to because God understands you. The speaking in tongues is a gift, Paul said, Do all speak in tongues 1 Cor 12:30, that you or your Pastor doesn't have the gift doesn't make those who have it evil and it doesn't make you less of a Christian either. It is the Holy Spirit that gives these gifts and does so according to the assignment we've been given.

My brother, your walk with Christ will be largely ineffective if you don't have the right attitude to studying the word. Also, do not read the word of God out of context, don't pick verses that agree with your opinion, that is what your understanding is about the part in Chapter 13:8 which says tongues will cease. You read that part alone and you are quoting it forgetting that it is actually a verse in a chapter.

I pray that God will grant you deeper revelation of his word that your walk in Christ might be effective, but you need to drop this attitude to get that understanding. Have a Blessed life!

"speaking in tongues ", a proof that one has holy spirit? the late Herbert Armstrong made it plain that "the gift of 'tongues' spoken in the Bible" is the ability to God in other languages. In other words, it is the ability to speak in human language that one has not learned before in other to propagate the gospel. If you read the 21 verses of acts chapter 2, you will see speaking in tongues is more than what you understand.

Well, I will tell you that make your path clean and stay away of doing dirty business like scamming people. You don't pretend to scam people under the name, prophet.

If I'm to go in details with you like some believe that such tongues-speaking is related to the episode of the “tongues of fire” in Acts 2:3. Others believe it to be the “baptism of the Spirit” predicted by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:11). Beliefs differ, too, as to whether the utterances mean anything in any language. Some believe the utterances to be the “tongues of angels” (1 Corinthians 13:1). Others say the languages are unknown and cannot be known. Still others believe such utterances to indeed be known foreign languages spoken today, or at least previously known languages such as ancient Hebrew. I still disagree that speaking in tongues is not not a foreign language. The unknown as described in the passages I quoted also mean foreign.

Most if nt all of those pple prophesying r faking. I don talk am say na until person fit talk names of bh sponsors, specific location of Bokoharam, & where dem go attack next na im I go know say prophets dey. Most of dem r just saying wt wld drag pple 2 their churches.

Mr poster, you need Jesus

exeloncomms:
Mr poster, you need Jesus

Which type of Jesus? Is it the biblical Jesus or modern day Jesus? I read that there was no camera to photograph the biblical Jesus. I also know that the Biblical Jesus is against these things by fake prophet or prophetess.

Christians should be Christ-like and not apostles-like. And for alfa?

seggzz:
"speaking in tongues ", a proof that one has holy spirit? the late Herbert Armstrong made it plain that "the gift of 'tongues' spoken in the Bible" is the ability to God in other languages. In other words, it is the ability to speak in human language that one has not learned before in other to propagate the gospel. If you read the 21 verses of acts chapter 2, you will see speaking in tongues is more than what you understand.

Well, I will tell you that make your path clean and stay away of doing dirty business like scamming people. You don't pretend to scam people under the name, prophet.

If I'm to go in details with you like some believe that such tongues-speaking is related to the episode of the “tongues of fire” in Acts 2:3. Others believe it to be the “baptism of the Spirit” predicted by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:11). Beliefs differ, too, as to whether the utterances mean anything in any language. Some believe the utterances to be the “tongues of angels” (1 Corinthians 13:1). Others say the languages are unknown and cannot be known. Still others believe such utterances to indeed be known foreign languages spoken today, or at least previously known languages such as ancient Hebrew. I still disagree that speaking in tongues is not not a foreign language. The unknown as described in the passages I quoted also mean foreign.

You finally get my point. You see you don't believe what I believe but that doesn't make me or you wrong or false. It is based on your understanding or mine at this time. Maybe we will both get better revelations about it later. I won't go around calling you false prophet because of it and you shouldn't go around calling me false prophet because of it. That is my point.

U are free 2 run ur mouth like a tap water,it is ur choice but to me anyday anytime prophet TB Joshua is God sent. Gbam

Nina4u:
T.B Joshua is using darker power in the name of God ... he will be cast in the lake of fire and brimstones were the beast and the false prophets will be tortured day and night forever T.B Joshua
... He will say to God ..have I not done great wonders in ur name? God will say go away ..I have never known u and Mathew 24:24 warn us of false prophets that will make great wonders in the name of God and eaven fool the very elect in our society ... I have never seen so many possessed people in the world as I seen in synagogh of all nation ... what r we guessing 100 people a week getting unposessed ?? Satan must love Lagos .. im telling u .. I trust in God and God has blessed me by prayers ...This self proclaimed Pastor is nothing but a fraud ... I got invited to go there they said they pick me up at the airport ...take me to the compound .. im not to be alloude to leave the compound for one week and see the miracle of God ...then they take me to the airport and I go home .... well that means I gotto eat and drink in the compound ...security in compound is high ...so he can easy poisend the food ..so I have hallusinations and seem possessed ... he can easy also give an antidote to the poisen so I seam like I am delivered and come back to reality .. people in naija are too damn superstitious ... and naïve ...want a quick fix to a problem......it warns us trough out the bible about theese men ..mathew 24:24 for ex... .... im not judging ...that's Gods job ...im just not easily fooled ...guy is not right ....its a scam ... he clame he heal aids ..wake up dead and talk to God bout football

SHALOM!

I am a Born Again, Full-Gospel, Pentecostal Christian of some 35 years' standing.

I have dissociated myself from ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY since 1985.

My Teachings are my own, and represent no Secret Agenda of Oyinbos, nor anyone else.

seggzz:
Good day ladies and gentlemen, it's a privilege the almighty creator has made me his spoke man to you today.

IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT GOD DID NOT SEND YOU.

Which God do you represent- YAHWEH, JESUS, or ALLAH?

You don't say.

That suggests that you just came to Sow Confusion and Doubt amongst Christians and Muslims, and not lead them to The Truth.

We know that the Oyinbo Atheists use SHILLS to plant Disinformation and Start Fights on the Internet.

How do we know that YOU are not one of them?

It is amazing how people blindly follow people like you, without bothering to learn where you are from, and where you are leading them to.

Those going about looking for prophets and prophetesses(woli and alfa) should be careful. I'm not saying you shouldn't visit them but..... The Holy books made us know that they are fake prophets or prophetess.

WHY CAN'T YOU TELL US NOT TO VISIT THEM?

Does your "God" still want us to fall into their traps?

Can't He tell you who the false Prophets are, and NOT to visit THEM?

Could it be that He does not know who the False Prophets/Prophetesses ARE?

You are so shocking- if you were portable, you could be a TAZER!

The way churches and mosques are growing everyday are like the growth of uncountable plants. The following are good to watch out for in these prophets.

YOU HATE EVERY ONE OF THEM- IT DOES NOT MATTER WHICH THEY ARE.

To me, the ONLY measure of a False Prophet/Prophetess that is important, if if they do not teach you how to become a Prophet of Prophetess.

. GENESIS 1:26-30.

GOD COMMANDED IN THE BEGINNING, that He gave Man only Fruits and Herbs which had SEEDS as food.

"SEED" also means TEACHING in ARAMAIC Language. [Source: GEORGE M. LAMSA.]

Therefore, any Prophet who does not teach His Followers how to become a Prophet in their own right, could not possibly have been sent from God.

(1). The prophet or prophetess is fake if he/she has prophesies that are not hundred percent accurate in hundred percent of the time, or are manipulated to be true. God cannot lie!

So, what are we to do here- wait until the Prophet or Prophetess is wrong, or until they prophesy something that no one understands?

WILLIAM BRANHAM was a FALSE PROPHET.

He preached CALVINIST PREDESTINATION that precluded SOULWINNING- therefore making The Gospel redundant.

[i.e. GOD KNOWS EVERYBODY WHO WILL BE SAVED, SO PREACHING CANNOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.]

He Ministered Healing by WORD OF KNOWLEDGE Prophesying of their Ailments and personal detail- AND HIS PROPHECIES WERE NEVER WRONG.

He even predicted his own death in 1965. (He died in the last week of 1965, in a freak accident.)

The most important work he did in his life was predicting WORLD WAR II, and the rise of Adolf Hitler and Mussolini's Attack on Ethiopia.

THE DEVIL USED HIS TO BRING THESE TRAGEDIES TO PASS, INSTEAD OF AVERTING THEM.

Your criteria will never work on a REAL False Prophet.

If it were that simple to identify False Prophets, we would never have any trouble with them.

(2).He/She preaches and practices teachings outside the Holy book (Bible or Quran).

THAT IS COMPLETELY FOOLISH.

There are many things and teachings that we practice outside of The Holy Bible.

I believe it easy for things to be practiced outside of THE QUR'AN- since there is so little inside It.

YAHSHUA SAID (my Text Editor is broken on this Computer, and I cannot replace it at this time, so I cannot paste the appropriate Scriptures at this time.)

. JOHN 16:1-15.

that the Revelations he had brought thus far were far from complete, but The HOLY GHOST would have to Teach his Disciples things which he could not.

IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAMIC RELIGION- WHICH YOU DO NOT- YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE QUR'AN IS HARDLY THE SOLE SPIRITUAL GUIDE OF MUSLIMS. You would know about the HADITH- which justify a number of unsavoury practices- including BESTIALITY, and DRINKING CAMEL URINE.

BUT according top YOU, anybody who believes in THEM must be a FALSE MUSLIM Preacher.

FOOLISH BOY- mind your own business!

(3).He/She uses almost all tricks to just get money from you.

THE POINT HERE IS THAT YOU HATE ALL PREACHERS AND PROPHETS, AND DO NOT WANT THEM TO RECEIVE ANY MONEY!

You have just insulted everyone who gives money to these people, and called them too foolish to know that they were being deceived.

So do I- but I am not so foolish as to tell them to their faces!

(*OOOPS...!*)

Errm... what I really meant to say was, uh...

[size=28pt]MOVING ON...![/size]

What are TRICKS?

I am sure that you mean ANYTHING that gets money out of their followers' pockets, and into their pockets, instead of YOUR pocket.

I believe this criticism is motivated by Covetousness on your part.

(4)He/She uses supernatural or occultic techniques in his or her prophecy.

DAMN STRAIGHT!

When relaying communications with SUPERNATURAL BEINGS, only NATURAL TECHNIQUES should be used.

Science tells us that the DINOSAUR body was a big as a HOUSE- but it's BRAIN was like the side of a Mango.

They also said that all Dinosaurs went extinct about 70 million years ago.

What I am saying is that your post cannot be explained by Oyinbo Science.

(5).He/She has rebellious and unrepented spirit.

That... totally disqualifies 99% of all Bible Prophets, Muhammed, and whoever else you can shake an umbrella at.

Rebellious against WHOM- the POPE?

(*DING!*)

Ah- I rang a bell, did I-?

(6).He/She wants you to prepare sacrifices in any forms (be it white or black sacrifices)

That totally invalidates 100% of all Prophets born, dead, unborn, or on life-support at this time.

Another FAIL.

MOVING ON...!

(7).He/She speaks in demonic tongues. Bible tongues are languages which others can understand. The present tongues today are demonic tongues.

Oho- I get it now- YOU ARE A "DEMON" (whatever that is- there is no such term in The Bible, nor the Qur'an).

You know when people are speaking your Daddy's Language!

Oyinbo Psychologists have noted that some of their their twins are so smart, that they make up their own private languages together, which nobody else can understand. Does that mean that they are DEVILS? (Is that why the forefathers used to kill twins?)

You have no idea what the [Swear Word] you are talking about.

There are 300 languages and dialects in Nigeria alone.

You want to say that you go around listening to people speaking in Tongues, and going:

"AHA! This language is NOT from Earth! It is SATANIC!"

You people are really fools!

SPEAKING IN TONGUES is, at the very least, the Prophet releasing their Tongue from Conscious Control.

In THE CELESTINE PROPHECY, the protagonist describes how the Adept, WIL, raised his Vibrations to the point where he was ready to step into Another World. At the same time, there were ROMAN CATHOLIC SOLDIERS trying to arrest them. WIL and his party became invisible and intangible, because they had altered their vibrational rate to where they could see the people trying to kill them, but they could not see them.

WIL began to raise his vibrations to TRANSLATION FREQUENCIES, and told his companions to focus on HIM, and MATCH his Vibrational Rate, and to stop thinking about the Soldiers. But as his vibrations increased, HIS VOICE BECAME MORE AND MORE UNINTELLIGIBLE.

Clearly, he did not change his language to confuse them, but the DIFFERENCE in their Vibrational Rates made it impossible to understand him.

At a point, WIL vanished from their ken, and the people who could not follow him lost their vibrational difference, and rematerialized in the midst of the soldiers, who promptly arrested them. (The soldiers did not realize what had just happened,or the author would have been killed on-the-spot.)

[See: THE CELESTINE PROPHECY, by James Redfield.]

(.He/She is parading or selling holy materials(handkerchiefs, water, stones, etc) to perform miracles without fasting and prayer as the only source.

ANYTHING A HOLY PERSON TOUCHES CONTAINS AN IMPRINT OF THEIR POWER.

Lots of people were Healed in The Bible without "FASTING AND PRAYER AS THE ONLY SOURCE."

That is a foolish thing to say.

How many people do you get Healed in a year?

(I haven't Healed anyone since 31 years- in case anyone wants to know.)

(9).He/She puts on coloured garments, hand rings, chains and other things on his or her body.

[size=28pt]I KNEW IT![/size]

Patriarch YOSEF (wearer of the legendary "Coat-of-Many-Colours" was a False Prophet, the whole time!

YAHSHUA was WRONG!

We SHOULD judge by OUTWARD APPEARANCE!

Thank you, thank you for this Revelation!

Thank you, for that, whenever someone accuses me of being the biggest fool in the World, I can hide behind YOU!

(10).He/She does all or one of the above points 1 to 9.


http://seggzz2005..com.ng

You can relax- we get the Message: YOU are a FALSE PROPHET.

Please give me 3 names of "true pastor" in Naija if any.