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Reyginus:
Exactly. My question is, how would this result in these cataclysmic effects like earthwake and the rest?

dorox:
As mentioned before, either of the two conditions necessary for the earth to be tidally locked to the sun requires a tremendous increase in the orbital speed or a remarkable decrease in the axial speed of rotation.

The first is like being hit from a stationary position by a high speed train, while the second is like ramming your car into a concrete wall at 250km/hr.
The same way you will use to explain how bad it will be for the car and its occupant in either case is how you can explain the cataclysm that will befall the earth should it be subjected to a force of such magnitude.

Reyginus:
I don't understand your analogy. In rotating on axis to align with the rotation of whatever of the other planetary body, how does collision force come into?

dorox:
I think the problem you are having is that you do not fully understand what it means for a planet in orbit to be tidally locked to the star it is orbiting.

Reyginus:
Tidally locked to a star? Does it occur to only STARS or by STARS you mean every bright sphere? That's an aside. Tell me what is Tidal Locking then.

dorox:
A Planet is said to be tidally locked to its parent star if the amount of time it takes for it to make a full rotation on it's axis is exactly equal to the time it takes to revolve around the star.
The earth revolves around the sun in 365.25 days and rotates on it's axis in one day. So to be tidally locked to the sun, the earth would either slow its axial rotation such that a day becomes 365.25 days, or increase its orbital speed such that a year becomes one day. And either of this would require the application of tremendous force.

dorox:
I explained tidal locking in this post.



An object can only be tidally locked to the body it orbits, which in the case of the earth that body is the sun.
The earth does no orbit the stars, so it cannot be tidally locked to any of them.

Reyginus:
That means my question is not out of order. You wrote about a collision and shattering by higher force. My question still is, where is the collision force in your definition of tidal locking? I don't know if you get me now.

dorox:
I honestly don't know if you are serious or trolling, either way I can't help you to see more than I have tried.

plaetton:
Irrelevancies, you say ?

That's my point, dude.

This discussion is beyond your mindset, beyond your mental conditioning.

You didn't have to inject yourself into it.

Why don't you run off to Sunday school, and let adults carry on a discussion.

Reyginus:
Yes I'm serious. I don't know also if you are pretending not to get me or otherwise. Johnydon22, do you get my question?

johnydon22:
The thing is there isn't any collision force.. The earth is spinning very fast in it's axis, and if that would suddenly ground to a halt and the earth becomes tidally locked the results just like dorox pointed out would be catastrophic...

Imagine spinning on a mary go round that is blowing 100km/h and then it suddenly halts to a stop... if you are not strapped in tight you might be thrown off the mary go round and the mary go round itself might be ripped apart.

So there is no external force acting on it but the effect of the initial velocity on the body..

Reyginus:
Exactly. Dorox, I hope you get me now. The collision force where would it come from?

johnydon22:
There isn't any. I believe Dorox used that to illustrate the effect the sudden halt of a body's velocity would have on it

vooks:
Cheeky m0ron is once again ashamed of his beloved UFOlogy

Reyginus:
You believe? Okay. Let me wait for him to say so. Sudden halt? Collide? Shatter ? Okay.

Reyginus:
You believe? Okay. Let me wait for him to say so. Sudden halt? Collide? Shatter ? Okay.

johnydon22:
Yes i used the word "Believe" because am not sure just my own speculation of what he might mean..

He should be able to clear us well on that

dorox:
I said the effect of sudden acceleration or decceleration of that magnitude is like being hot by a high speed train or crating into a concrete barrier at high speed.
I used the simile like. I never said that anything was crashing into earth.

johnydon22:
There isn't any. I believe Dorox used that to illustrate the effect the sudden halt of a body's velocity would have on it

dorox:
I said the effect of sudden acceleration or decceleration of that magnitude is like being hot by a high speed train or crating into a concrete barrier at high speed.
I used the simile like. I never said that anything was crashing into earth.

johnydon22:
Yes i used the word "Believe" because am not sure just my own speculation of what he might mean..

He should be able to clear us well on that

plaetton:
You know, if ufology was a religion, it would still make a lot more sense than Christianity.

Now, I am guessing that you're not a ufologists, am I correct ?

But pls sire, since you are the one that introduced the term into this thread, can you kindly define ufology for us ?
Thank you kindly.

plaetton:
This is quite stuuuuupid, I must say.

Again, this obviously stems from very poor comprehension skills.

The op's position is that since we Africans are beholden to worshipping god-in-sky myths from middle East junk yards, why not learn our own closer to home god-in-sky myths from our own African brothers, the Dogons of Mali?
This was from where our discussions began.

Now, I am guessing that it is your brainwashed safe-guard mechanism that kicked in your knee-jerk reactions.

Funny that you should ask for a peer review of Dogon mystery, an African myth.

When was the last time you asked for a peer review of christian mythologies, the bedrock of your worldviews ?

Silly m.o.Ron.
Tufiakwa!

johnydon22:
Wiegraf here is another point.. The stonehenge, how in the world did they lift that and achieved a perfect geometrical formations in arranging it..

we simply do not know, should we then assume they got help from aliens?..No.. it means we don't know YET.

I am fascinated by this Dogon tribe and i will read and research more about their astronomical knowledge.. it will be wonderful

wiki: The Dogon people are an ethnic group in Mali, West Africa, reported by some researchers to have traditional astronomical knowledge about Sirius that would normally be considered impossible without the use of telescopes. According to Marcel Griaule's books Conversations with Ogotemmêli and The Pale Fox they knew about the fifty-year orbital period of Sirius and its companion prior to western astronomers. They also refer to a third star accompanying Sirius A and B. Robert Temple's 1976 book The Sirius Mystery, credits them with knowledge of the four Galilean moons of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn. This has been the subject of controversy and speculation.

wiki: In 1844 the German astronomer Friedrich Bessel deduced from changes in the proper motion of Sirius that it had an unseen companion.[56] Nearly two decades later, on January 31, 1862, American telescope-maker and astronomer Alvan Graham Clark first observed the faint companion, which is now called Sirius B, or affectionately "the Pup".[57] This happened during testing of an 18.5-inch (470 mm) aperture great refractor telescope for Dearborn Observatory, which was the largest refracting telescope lens in existence at the time, and the largest telescope in the United States.[58] Sirius B sighting was confirmed on March 8 with smaller telescopes as well.[59]

The visible star is now sometimes known as Sirius A. Since 1894, some apparent orbital irregularities in the Sirius system have been observed, suggesting a third very small companion star, but this has never been definitely confirmed. The best fit to the data indicates a six-year orbit around Sirius A and a mass of only 0.06 M☉. This star would be five to ten magnitudes fainter than the white dwarf Sirius B, which would account for the difficulty of observing it.[60] Observations published in 2008 were unable to detect either a third star or a planet. An apparent "third star" observed in the 1920s is now confirmed as a background object.[61]