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| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 11:04am On Jan 14, 2016 |
K9blunt:What about the rituals and the gods that accept the blood sacrifices. You can't say you are oblivious of ritual cases. Rain was once considered a blessing from God until scientist discovered (evaporation, cooling and condensation) Does it mean that people don't pray to God again for rains? Of course not? Because I know I can take drugs and cure malaria, does that mean I can't pray to God to heal me when I am afflicted with the disease? Of course He will heal me. Same with leprosy. Now I have heard about scenarios and even seen cases where people chase rain because of an event how do you explain that? I have heard of pastors commanding rain to stop for them to continue their crusade and it obeyed them. Dearest even in philosophy ( I didn't study philosophy just curious reading) when the work of Aristotle was compiled, there were some parts that were mystical and they were tagged "Metaphysics" there are powers beyond the physical realms. "The more you look the less you see" was a phrase coined for tricks believe me there is magic powers......But the power in the Blood of Jesus is immeasurable and unfathomable. From your stand on sense and touch I guess you are tilted towards realism. You are a realist but it does not spare you of God's judgement. Realism is just one man's idea. You can't place your eternity on it. Please you can seek the help of Jesus today. Whatever made you take this point (atheism) you can settle it with Jesus. You can reconcile back to him. He is eager to listen to you. He loved you so much that he gave up his throne to save you and I. Please rescind on your decision. Jesus is patiently waiting for you. He wants you back. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by morayho(m): 11:09am On Jan 14, 2016 |
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| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by zinaunreal(m): 11:13am On Jan 14, 2016 |
I agree with all but not number 4, absolutely unrealistic. If you're afraid, you will fall it's as simple as that. Your can only pick yourself up when you have decided to banish fear from your heart. Fear is a crippler |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by jahstech: 11:14am On Jan 14, 2016 |
K9blunt:Read my first write up, Christianity doesn't seem to have the answer as well, that leaves me with more questions than answers. While no one seems to be able to explain things to me, i have found some things that made sense, I have seen and strongly believe that all humans have that desire to live forever, there is no denying it. I have seen some explanation about the cause of the current human situation and it seems to be the ONLY logical explanation since no one has a better explanation I have seen that if I feel really sad when bad things happen(THE SENSE OF INJUSTICE), that mean there is supposed to be a right way(SENSE OF JUSTICE) I was programmed to see things, that means if am pained by suffering around me that means i would be really happy is there is no suffering around me! Is it logical? I have seen that there is a golden rule in Life and IF YOU, MYSELF and EVERYONE AROUND US APPLY THAT RULE we would never have problems, Ever heard about THE GOLDEN RULE?(google it), and guess who originated that Rule? The JESUS who many malinger as being irrelevant. I have seen that the BIBLE ITSELF not RELIGION, the BIBLE answers millions of questions that i thought there was no answer for!! Let you give you some examples, i will give you some logical questions and you give me your own answer, meditate, google it, read any book, i don't care where you get it from, but give me an answer: 1. Why do I and everyone around me suffer? 2. Why do i feel the pain when people around me suffer? 3. Why do i have the longing to live a good life devoid of suffering? 4. Where did humans come from in the first place? 5. Where did this place i find myself and all the billions of human come from? 6. Why do we die? 7. Where are all the humans who have died? 8. Why do we long to see the future and can anyone see the future? 9. Those people who I assume to be good, why do bad things happen to them? 10. If I die is that all? Or there is a better place? If yes why don't I just end my suffering here and go to that better place? |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 11:19am On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:bro this world is of different views from different angles.. one of my aunts who is a staunch Christian.. any slightest abnormal thing she sees it becomes the devil for her. be it coacroaches, owls, rats.. ETc.. if u try to argue with her about her faith.. u become the devil her Bible talks about.. that is her own view of this world. so u see, different people with different views.. u believing in a Jewish god concept is simply ur own choice.. doesn't make u better than Buddhist, Muslim and thousands of other worshippers of different deities.. we in the other hand being atheists is as a result of our own views and nothing more.. because by the time u find out why u don't believe in others, then u will find out why we don't believe in urs.. as for magicians... some magics mystery has been uncovered while some are yet to be.. have u asked itself? why don't magicians with their powers go inside the Bank and carry some cash.. only for them to stay on the streets to deceive gullible civilians who only mopes and don't care to think. all things in this world has an explanation but some are yet to be explained. at a point in time.. some disease were accredited to some gods as an act of punishment until science proves other wise.. so should we lazily seat down and credit every circumstance to god and devil while we perish in ignorance or should we stand up to face what is facing us and be masters of our destinies and aactions? |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by jahstech: 11:23am On Jan 14, 2016 |
https://www.facebook.com/vibrationradio/videos/vb.25532495837/10152738856815838/?type=2&theater watch this video and prove me wrong... |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Pavarottii(m): 11:24am On Jan 14, 2016 |
eleojo23:Oga, no winch anywhere... |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 11:32am On Jan 14, 2016 |
K9blunt:It is good to search for answers but be careful. I am a curious person to the marrow. I have believed so much in evolution that I couldn't help reading on anything about "Origin of Species". I have searched several journals up to the point that I even keep abreast of latest evolutionary trend. Sitting on the fence (Conscience and morality) is the greatest deception you can ever align yourself with. The Devil knows this. You can never be resolute with only conscience and morality the you will drift, The devil have existed before aeons we can't tackle him with morality and conscience ordinary laws modified by man. Let me ask you do you think you have conscience and you are morally upright? ....Laughs...remember your knowledge of good and evil was conditioned by society. What you think is good is what society has taught you. American society and Europe once believed gayism and lesbianism were morally wrong. In the US today only a handful believes so. The rest now believes it is just. Morality and conscience have been distorted. If you were a babarian you won't see any wrong in indiscriminate killings. If Hitler was able to brainwash Germans "the most knowledge people in the twentieth century" then your stand in morality is shaky .I do not wish to bore you I am sorry if I am already doing so or perhaps intruding into your personal Space. Please just do me one last favour, think about it again.....my apologies if you feel I have trespassed. God loves you |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by franconian: 11:50am On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:Whatever you've experienced, know one thing; people have had more hopeless experiences and somehow scaled through too, and they were not necessary Christians. Using your experience as a yardstick for accepting that Yahweh is the true God is flawed because Christians and non-Christians (even antichrists) have had similar experiences too and survived still, should we then conclude that whatever these guys believe is true? I sincerely believe there are supernatural powers, but just like humans, they are all busy fighting for supremacy, e.g Yahweh and Satan (according to the bible). It will be better if they are left alone to do their thing. Humans should face their business and find solutions to their problems. Do you know that just letting go of religious believes would solve many of our today's problems? |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by K9blunt(f): 11:50am On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:My dear my belief is what..... Mine alone. If I feel the need to search more on believing in a skydaddy or about life , then I will do it, but I don't so I won't . I don't claim to be morrally upright but as a thinking human I know that its wrong to hurt others when you don't want to feel hurt. I like to laugh so logic tells me not to be a sadist. (Its called cause and effect) Believe me life is very simple, but the people making it difficult is humans. Not all barbarians are barbaric , my conscience guides me, if you say its because of society, who are the society and how did they get their idea of morallism? I really don't have time and spark to break down how I think and to answer your questions as you've asked but I will put it simply, though the bible to some point is good for guidance not all what it depicts is right and it's just plain fiction like the fairy tales I watched as a child. If you are a thinking human you should know what's right and what's wrong. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 11:50am On Jan 14, 2016 |
krattoss:Like you brother I was once an atheist. Once Stronger than you will ever be. Now some people just say they are atheist and don't understand the concept. First an atheist is a realist are you? Now have you ever wished for anything since you became an atheist? Be truthful. Have you ever felt lucky? Your answer will determine if I will continue on the subject......As for your aunt, salvation is a personal thing. it is a personal encounter with God. Although some people act strange which is clearly due to the things they have been through or certain situtans and challenges in live. The fundamental things are righteousness, being born again and walking in the spirit. Leave the rest of her attitude to her...I will love to get your response first my atheist friend and I will love you to brace up your atheist points....God Loves you. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
franconian:What do you say about gods that demand for human sacrifice? What do you say about blood money? What do you say about a man whose legs where at the point of amputation and he said no way I will walk again against medical advice? He had to sign undertaken not to visit any public hospital in respect to that leg if he doesn't agree to amputation? The problem I have with people like you is you don't read deep. Sorry to say this. If you can read some dark books all these things you are saying you no go talk am. I thank God you are aware of hierarchy in the spirit realms.....dude Even these spirit testify that God is real. You can consult book moses and co......they know God exist they even fear God more than we do. you are only being superficial. You read the bible and call it fiction now I DARE you Read the book of moses, Read A-Z of Devils alphabet, take your time study soul Travelling....experiment it.....they are practical books.......source for I dark books....after studying do the maths then tell me God doesn't exist. Is it because God is so merciful? Is it because the bible is made so easy that you flout the word of God and nothing happens? I Dare you now...Read Those any of those books Carry out an experimental exercise just miss one step, if you no run mad or meet death instantaneously then know am talking trash. Some of you just sit watch film and think abstract it doesn't add...God doesn't exist.......laffs again.......I have seen a demon as real as I have seen Man. Don't doubt God dude unless you want to provoke him and make him make you believe......your story will be legendary......God is love, He loves you. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 12:25pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
K9blunt:This conscience you are talking about, has already been modified from infancy. Naturally, without bias......without religion, If you train a child without the concept of God did you know that at a point the child/teen might start wishing for somethings? He will start searching for answers even without any previous knowledge? According to philosophy there is something in every man that wants to make it believe in something. We were created in the image of God. We will search for Him. You choose to become an atheist by conditioning your mind. Therefore conscience can be conditioned. I can condition my conscience to seek pleasure in people's pain. And it will be just before me. Personal belief doesn't hold...... Dearest believe in jesus....He cares and he saves.....He doesn't live in the sky He is everywhere. God loves you |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by franconian: 12:29pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:Bros why you dey use question dey answer question na? I asked those questions hoping you would provide some answers but you decided to tryna trivialise them and scare me with books you think have only been read by you and no other. Please if you really care, answer the questions I asked previously. Merci! |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by judedwriter(m): 12:33pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
eleojo23:Witchcraft can b very stubborn o-its not as simple as that. Its easy to b free, but to remain free is difficult and takes a lot. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by K9blunt(f): 12:35pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:Whatever rocks your boat. Take care |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by eleojo23(op): 12:41pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
Wait a minute, franconian, Bigmarx, krattos, k9blunt, you guys have turned my thread into a battlefield for religious war abi? Continue... ![]() |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 12:57pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
franconian:I am sorry perhaps I did not get the question can you please ask again, more explicitly. .......in respect to me scaring you....bros I can never scare you. But I am tired of hearing people call the bible a story book. So now I recommend books for them dark practical books. Let us be real now. I can give you an excerpt from seven book of moses, you will read and experiment. Then you will know the difference. You will know Christianity is milk and honey that is why we don't respect God. I can give right now....once you I type it here you read it you will experiment it, no stories I have passed the level of arguing about the existence of God with what my two eyes have seen and what my ears have heard? do you know the number of times I have floated on my mattress back in the university....Dude if you are an atheist prove me wrong. Tell me these things are fluke let me send you a PM right now and send excerpts to you so that you experiment....when you feel dark power survive if person tell you "I be atheist" then you will know what to say....pls ask your qstn |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by macof(m): 1:03pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
eleojo23 this is just brilliant. did you make this up yourself? |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by eleojo23(op): 1:24pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
Macof, it is not my original work but the writer perfectly expresses what I have in mind so I decided to share it. I made little modifications though. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by NotNairalandi(m): 1:26pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
91/100.....nice write-up |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:realist?.. it depends on the concept of realism u are talking about.. but yes I see things the way they are and nothing more nothing less.. wish... yeah who doesn't wish? I who doesn't dream?.. but does wish make it real if u don't work towards it?.. on the other hand.. their are also some greedy wishful thinking... like wishing I will have 72 virgin waiting for me some where if I die.. or living in a paradise trillions of centuries after I have died. in this case my wish is only the product of my wild imagination and fantasies. lucky...? why not ask whether I have felt cheated?.. OK how about that ant that just sucked ur blood u missed killing.. maybe u wanted but it got away.. now tell me.. is the ant lucky that it sucked u and got away or are u cheated for not avoiding or killing the ant?.. yes I have been lucky many times and also felt cheated many times as well... but it doesn't change the fact that no one is perfect, complete, and that the world is full of ups and downs. god loves me? I hahaha I can't stop laughing.. u mean u are his spokesman? or he doesn't like those Syrian civilians who suffers from the hands of Isis.. or he doesn't love nigeria who is suffering from economic meltdown? or I forgot.. Zeus.. Krishna.. amadioha.. Sango.. Allah and thousands of other gods loves me more |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
K9blunt:What it is NOT, rather the absence of |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
10. That police is ur friend. 11. I cannot live without you |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by AdeniyiA(m): 5:14pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
adioolayi:Just go and buy vast expanse of land and start farming while at the same time living in the farm till death comes knocking... |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by adioolayi(m): 6:30pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
AdeniyiA: ![]() |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by KanwuliaJara: 8:12pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by KanwuliaJara: 8:13pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
joshrare:A very BIG, FAT LIE! ![]() Sweet, loving words should always be BACKED UP BY SWEEEEEEETER, LOVING ACTIONS abi? ![]() Never! From THE BLACK RACE!!!! ![]() The more those 3 "disgusting" scam words are uttered from ANY BLACK MAN especially, RRRRRRRUN from EMOTIONAL, SPIRITUAL AND FINANCIAL AMAGGEDDON ooooooooooh! Who NEVER HAD LOVE, can NEVER GIVE OR RECEIVE LOVE, period!!!! ![]() Love from NL/LONDON-SCAMMERS? ![]() The cheapest line to get "FREE POOHSIE" and money from "DESPERATE/REETARRRDED" females and SHEMALUS!!!! ![]() Especially from those who were not conceived, birthed and reared by loving AFRICAN, EGG/SPERM-DONORS"! ![]() Or those who languished in polygamous KIBBUTZS ALL OVER AFRICA as children or ADULTS, all to escape psycho-social, spiritual and economic POVERTY! ![]() |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
krattoss:Don't worry bro' you are not atheist you are just lost in the middle. You will still find a place to perch....i hope you don't take too long....God loves you |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
TheSixthSense:Thank God! People just wake up one morning and say they are atheist. They don't understand what atheism is. I don't know perhaps they think it makes them more westernised or civilised? They just confuse themselves. nothing in their head! They just hear ppl are atheist and they follow suit. I will say it over and over you can't be an atheist, but you can only lie to yourself that you.....thank you for letting the lady know what an introduction to atheism look like... |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 8:51pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
Bigmarx:lol. what a way to bow out.. I understand. |
| Re: 9 Lies You Need To Stop Believing by Nobody: 9:25pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
krattoss:bow out Naaah....When I commune with real atheist I know, because I was once one for many years. Some people are lost in the middle. They are not atheist. I have met people who felt they were too damaged to face reality and accept Christ. For you, you are not an atheist may be you started last year. For the fact you said Allah sango et al.....loves you then you are not even close to atheism. when I want to argue with atheist I love those from philosophy or psychology disciplines. That way they can come up with epistemological theories,proof etc but For many years many don't want us to practicalise this thing. Well to end your point, the fact that you are " wishing alone" is tying ur belief to something....atheism is the absence of belief.....make I know waste my time much....my advice get a copy of the bible....re-dedicate your life this year...God loves you........Let me just end this here. As an atheist I will recommend some dark books, you read, experiment then come up to tell me, truly God doesn't exist. Because with the bible God's mercy abound! If you really want me to prove to you...guy....Just go thank God for your life leave all these gragra |
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