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How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Godsfamilymemba: 8:38pm On Jan 15, 2016
After the death of Jesus Christ for you and his resurrection from the dead, if you kill anyone because they don't believe in the God you worship, you will go to hell, not heaven. Only believing that Jesus died for your sins and following Jesus henceforth will deliver you from hell.

The heaven Jesus talked about in the Bible is not the same as Islam talk about.
"29Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." (Matthew 22:29-30)

The author of the Qur'an must be in error like Jesus said because he says that in paradise,
"They will be reclining on thrones lined up, and We will marry them to fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes." (Sura 52:20)

The questions begging for answer are: Is there going to be lesbian marriage in that paradise? Or are women excluded from that Paradise Or from marital privileges in this paradise after being faithful to Allah on earth?


Those who have ears to ear should ear that the "paradise" of the Qur'an where marriages take place (lesbian or not) doesn't exist so don't kill people to get there ooo. Jesus is the way to the true heaven. Believe.

IF YOU'VE KILLED CHRISTIANS BEFORE OR YOU QUIETLY SUPPORT THOSE WHO DO, WE FORGIVE YOU. JESUS DIED FOR ALL YOUR SINS, INCLUDING THAT TOO. RECEIVE GENUINE FORGIVENESS AND FOLLOW HIM. HE IS THE WAY.

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 10:04pm On Jan 15, 2016
I will like you study the following before spreading misleading information. Islam is not what you think.
Allah the Exalted said, ﺱ They will recline (with ease) on thrones Masfufah. Ath-Thawri reported from Husayn, from Mujahid, from Ibn Abbas: "Thrones in howdahs.'' And the meaning of, (Masfufah) is they will be facing each other, ﺱ Facing one another on thrones. (37:44). And Allah said..
And We shall marry them to Hur (fair females) with wide lovely eyes. We made for them righteous spouses, beautiful wives from Al-Hur Al-`Ayn. We mentioned the description of Al-Hur Al-`Ayn in several other places in this Tafsir, and therefore, it is not necessary to repeat their description here.
Read more about -Hur Al-`Ayn. .
And for question of whether woman were not inclusive or not, you see that is why knowledge is power to set individual free from delusion.
Quran is the most comprehensive holy text, that was the reason for different commentories and the most important of all is the Hadith (sayings and deeds of the Holy Prophet SAW). in all these materials there are explanation about how people will be dwelling both in paradise and he'll fire.
Holy Prophet of Allah (SAW) told us that; those righteous women will be married to the same men on earth if the men were as well righteous but as for those that will be separated righteous men and women awaiting them therein. This was inline with above verse quoted.
In addition to this, men will be given more than one wife while the righteous one with them on earth will be like grand wife. The wifes are with the characteristics mentioned above.
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Godsfamilymemba: 10:59pm On Jan 15, 2016
AlmuFty01:
And Allah said..
And We shall marry them to Hur (fair females) with wide lovely eyes. We made for them righteous spouses, beautiful wives from Al-Hur Al-`Ayn. We mentioned the description of Al-Hur Al-`Ayn in several other places in this Tafsir, and therefore, it is not necessary to repeat their description here.
Read more about -Hur Al-`Ayn. .
And for question of whether woman were not inclusive or not, you see that is why knowledge is power to set individual free from delusion.
Quran is the most comprehensive holy text, that was the reason for different commentories and the most important of all is the Hadith (sayings and deeds of the Holy Prophet SAW). in all these materials there are explanation about how people will be dwelling both in paradise and he'll fire.
Holy Prophet of Allah (SAW) told us that; those righteous women will be married to the same men on earth if the men were as well righteous but as for those that will be separated righteous men and women awaiting them therein. This was inline with above verse quoted.
In addition to this, men will be given more than one wife while the righteous one with them on earth will be like grand wife. The wifes are with the characteristics mentioned above.

You are still confirming what I said. In the heaven where Jesus will be, Jesus said their will be no marriage. Marriage is meant for this world and there will be no river of wine as obtainable in the one the Qur'an talks about-- all these physical pleasures/ highs will not be needed at the resurrection.
So that paradise is not the same as the Bible paradise. Experiencing God's presence and glory is greater than sex and wine. As Christians, it is easy to know they won't be necessary because when we worship God, we experience an indescribable pleasure beyond sex and alcohol by the Holy Spirit.
IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE WHOM GOD SENT TO DIE FOR YOUR SINS AND YOU COME TO GOD THROUGH JESUS IN TRUE WORSHIP, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
Thanks anyway for a reasonable comment

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 7:06am On Jan 16, 2016
Godsfamilymemba:


You are still confirming what I said. In the heaven where Jesus will be, Jesus said their will be no marriage. Marriage is meant for this world and there will be no river of wine as obtainable in the one the Qur'an talks about-- all these physical pleasures/ highs will not be needed at the resurrection.
So that paradise is not the same as the Bible paradise. Experiencing God's presence and glory is greater than sex and wine. As Christians, it is easy to know they won't be necessary because when we worship God, we experience an indescribable pleasure beyond sex and alcohol by the Holy Spirit.
IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE WHOM GOD SENT TO DIE FOR YOUR SINS AND YOU COME TO GOD THROUGH JESUS IN TRUE WORSHIP, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
Thanks anyway for a reasonable comment
My friend in few sentences explain in detail how your heaven will look like what are the possible activities and mind you.
Those verses you quoted, will have been better if you find Quran commentary, mere surface meaning of the verses do you not the real benefits.
And for the someone die for another person's sins is never exist, common sense without consulting defined books proved it wrong.
Come to think of it, after the demise of jesus many of you steal, fornicate, murder, engaging in bribery, used juju to besiege mind of followers and enslaved them, cheated on people and most of all act against teachings in the Bible.
All these will be unpunished? Let me tell you, the fact that you and I will die one day is a punishment. Just wake up please, don't you know that many of predicament we experience here on earth is as a result of of our sins (not all of it), had the sins were forgiven why do we have to labour before getting our ends?
For the argument that marriage is meant for this world only... Was the marriage unholy, then no one will be man of God, via it You and I came to this world likewise all people of the world, and guess what heaven will have to reject all of us. You made me laugh.
Plato, one of the earliest scientist/philosopher of opinion that all what we are able to enjoy in this life either good or bad are imperfect shadow of things exist in real world.
Base on your explanation, is like no any connection between this world and the next one, hunnnn this is never possible. I don't know how to put this but take from me. All that you and I found ourselves doing in this world was never coincidence, it all about actualizing already program activities, you and I actually before now met like this, being together with our family and did all we have done ever before now. The truth is that you can not add or subtract anything to/from it and none of it will miss you just as it was obviously true that no any activity not even a single one that has no business with the next world will be on the list of events here on the earth.
My brother far from it, that all we will be doing after this world is praising God..... Hunn why all religions actives on the earth then if actually another worshiping activities awaiting us at the heaven? No time of enjoyment at all? No reward for all our religious engagement? Hahaha
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 7:33am On Jan 16, 2016
Mind you please! I am not in anyway intended to paint any religion black, all I yearn is well informed individual who adopt and follows any religion based on full grasp of its norms not by my Alfa/pastor said, but through thorough research and with open minded.

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Ovacoma: 5:35pm On Jan 16, 2016
AlmuFty01:

My friend in few sentences explain in detail how your heaven will look like what are the possible activities and mind you.
Those verses you quoted, will have been better if you find Quran commentary, mere surface meaning of the verses do you not the real benefits.
And for the someone die for another person's sins is never exist, common sense without consulting defined books proved it wrong.
Come to think of it, after the demise of jesus many of you steal, fornicate, murder, engaging in bribery, used juju to besiege mind of followers and enslaved them, cheated on people and most of all act against teachings in the Bible.
All these will be unpunished? Let me tell you, the fact that you and I will die one day is a punishment. Just wake up please, don't you know that many of predicament we experience here on earth is as a result of of our sins (not all of it), had the sins were forgiven why do we have to labour before getting our ends?
For the argument that marriage is meant for this world only... Was the marriage unholy, then no one will be man of God, via it You and I came to this world likewise all people of the world, and guess what heaven will have to reject all of us. You made me laugh.
Plato, one of the earliest scientist/philosopher of opinion that all what we are able to enjoy in this life either good or bad are imperfect shadow of things exist in real world.
Base on your explanation, is like no any connection between this world and the next one, hunnnn this is never possible. I don't know how to put this but take from me. All that you and I found ourselves doing in this world was never coincidence, it all about actualizing already program activities, you and I actually before now met like this, being together with our family and did all we have done ever before now. The truth is that you can not add or subtract anything to/from it and none of it will miss you just as it was obviously true that no any activity not even a single one that has no business with the next world will be on the list of events here on the earth.
My brother far from it, that all we will be doing after this world is praising God..... Hunn why all religions actives on the earth then if actually another worshiping activities awaiting us at the heaven? No time of enjoyment at all? No reward for all our religious engagement? Hahaha
No wonder bombs is going off everywhere!

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by tartar9(m): 6:01pm On Jan 16, 2016
making statements as usual
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by ymdo(m): 7:28pm On Jan 16, 2016
Ovacoma:

No wonder bombs is going off everywhere!
Allow the Op and almufty drag it out and stop making an idiot of yourself if you don't have anything reasonable to say
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:10pm On Jan 17, 2016
Ovacoma:

No wonder bombs is going off everywhere!
I wonder some times on SOSO media, when someone like you that suppose play save and display high intelligence quotient end up behaving like uneducated certificated fellow.
If the discussion is matured than what you can comprehend, please be humble enough to learn from your boss
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:21pm On Jan 17, 2016
To any of points raised about, positive contributions from anyone is highly welcome.
Reference and quotation that are in conformity to the topic will be of greater help here. I will like to learn more about these. Thank you all for the time and indispensable talent you about to dispense.
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by jcross19: 8:31pm On Jan 17, 2016
ymdo:
Allow the Op and almufty drag it out and stop making an idiot of yourself if you don't have anything reasonable to say
why can't you contribute as well?. Back to the op , you ask a very simple question but they are trying jump the question and derail the thread. I think question is too for allah to answer not talk of the followers.

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Ovacoma: 11:57pm On Jan 17, 2016
ymdo:
Allow the Op and almufty drag it out and stop making an idiot of yourself if you don't have anything reasonable to say
u too should learn to mind ur own .....
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Ovacoma: 12:00am On Jan 18, 2016
AlmuFty01:

I wonder some times on SOSO media, when someone like you that suppose play save and display high intelligence quotient end up behaving like uneducated certificated fellow.
If the discussion is matured than what you can comprehend, please be humble enough to learn from your boss
only i do not have the time!
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Kronos12(m): 12:40am On Jan 18, 2016
AlmuFty01:

My friend in few sentences explain in detail how your heaven will look like what are the possible activities and mind you.
Those verses you quoted, will have been better if you find Quran commentary, mere surface meaning of the verses do you not the real benefits.
And for the someone die for another person's sins is never exist, common sense without consulting defined books proved it wrong.
Come to think of it, after the demise of jesus many of you steal, fornicate, murder, engaging in bribery, used juju to besiege mind of followers and enslaved them, cheated on people and most of all act against teachings in the Bible.
All these will be unpunished? Let me tell you, the fact that you and I will die one day is a punishment. Just wake up please, don't you know that many of predicament we experience here on earth is as a result of of our sins (not all of it), had the sins were forgiven why do we have to labour before getting our ends?
For the argument that marriage is meant for this world only... Was the marriage unholy, then no one will be man of God, via it You and I came to this world likewise all people of the world, and guess what heaven will have to reject all of us. You made me laugh.
Plato, one of the earliest scientist/philosopher of opinion that all what we are able to enjoy in this life either good or bad are imperfect shadow of things exist in real world.
Base on your explanation, is like no any connection between this world and the next one, hunnnn this is never possible. I don't know how to put this but take from me. All that you and I found ourselves doing in this world was never coincidence, it all about actualizing already program activities, you and I actually before now met like this, being together with our family and did all we have done ever before now. The truth is that you can not add or subtract anything to/from it and none of it will miss you just as it was obviously true that no any activity not even a single one that has no business with the next world will
be on the list of events here on the earth.
My brother far from it, that all we will be doing after this world is praising God..... Hunn why all religions actives on the earth then if actually another worshiping activities awaiting us at the heaven? No time of enjoyment at all? No reward for all our religious engagement? Hahaha

You are mistaken sir. A Christian who faces bad things because of the things he did is not necessarily punished by God, it's only a consequences of what he did, or rather the sin he committed had created an opening for the devil. Christ took all the punishment for the sin, he paid it all. And even when that man faces the consequences he must come into the knowledge of the scriptures that said "nothing shall by any means hurt you".

Let me shock you sir that heaven is not just of pleasure like your prophet described it, I the kingdom of God is not meat and drink(and come to think of it; sex and wine?) the kingdom of God is all about His presence, casting the crowns at His feet and worshiping the Father.

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Kronos12(m): 12:47am On Jan 18, 2016
And it's so funny to think that what will take you to heaven is your religious activities........ Lols that's pathetic sir, it takes more than hitting ur forehead on the ground only five times (when the Bible said pray without ceasing), the fact that you are so concerned about enjoyment showed how carnal your prophet and your religion is. And the Bible clearly stated that to be carnal minded is death. So watch it brother, be careful........ Salvation is of the Spirit not of the body. It's not about hw religious you are it's about how spiritual you are

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Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jan 18, 2016
Kronos12:
And it's so funny to think that what will take you to heaven is your religious activities........ Lols that's pathetic sir, it takes more than hitting ur forehead on the ground only five times (when the Bible said pray without ceasing), the fact that you are so concerned about enjoyment showed how carnal your prophet and your religion is. And the Bible clearly stated that to be carnal minded is death. So watch it brother, be careful........ Salvation is of the Spirit not of the body. It's not about hw religious you are it's about how spiritual you are
I am glad.
Brother, you have said much and this is enough because I don't have time to duel this further. But in my earlier post you can read over again and again there are a lot for you to digest.
If our religious beliefs, norms and activities can not take us to heaven then what is your take about paganism, what is even the purpose of religion on earth in first instance?
Salivation is more of spirit not of the body, did you put in cognizant those beings existing in spirit and yearning the same heaven with us? You always water down our mortal body when come to heaven matter forgetting that a course that is necessary to study in school though elective must be study for successful collection of certificate of the main courses. If your have to exist today in mortal to seek heaven then you body is equally important my friend. Without bodily purification time is just wasting in seeking spiritual elevation.
Pray without ceasing! Please my friend, emphatically States the format of jesus payers in the Bible?
Maybe by so doing many of us who doesn't know how jesus pray will learn better than before. Thanks
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Godsfamilymemba: 3:20pm On Jan 24, 2016
You said so many things that shows you don't understand what I said above. I you truly want to make it to the true heaven, ask God to have mercy on you and show you the way.
AlmuFty01:

My friend in few sentences explain in detail how your heaven will look like what are the possible activities and mind you.
Those verses you quoted, will have been better if you find Quran commentary, mere surface meaning of the verses do you not the real benefits.
And for the someone die for another person's sins is never exist, common sense without consulting defined books proved it wrong.
Come to think of it, after the demise of jesus many of you steal, fornicate, murder, engaging in bribery, used juju to besiege mind of followers and enslaved them, cheated on people and most of all act against teachings in the Bible.
All these will be unpunished? Let me tell you, the fact that you and I will die one day is a punishment. Just wake up please, don't you know that many of predicament we experience here on earth is as a result of of our sins (not all of it), had the sins were forgiven why do we have to labour before getting our ends?
For the argument that marriage is meant for this world only... Was the marriage unholy, then no one will be man of God, via it You and I came to this world likewise all people of the world, and guess what heaven will have to reject all of us. You made me laugh.
Plato, one of the earliest scientist/philosopher of opinion that all what we are able to enjoy in this life either good or bad are imperfect shadow of things exist in real world.
Base on your explanation, is like no any connection between this world and the next one, hunnnn this is never possible. I don't know how to put this but take from me. All that you and I found ourselves doing in this world was never coincidence, it all about actualizing already program activities, you and I actually before now met like this, being together with our family and did all we have done ever before now. The truth is that you can not add or subtract anything to/from it and none of it will miss you just as it was obviously true that no any activity not even a single one that has no business with the next world will be on the list of events here on the earth.
My brother far from it, that all we will be doing after this world is praising God..... Hunn why all religions actives on the earth then if actually another worshiping activities awaiting us at the heaven? No time of enjoyment at all? No reward for all our religious engagement? Hahaha
Re: How To Kill Christians And Still Go To Heaven? by Godsfamilymemba: 3:31pm On Jan 24, 2016
@AlmuFty01 Please remember to tell us when you become a Christian because God is having mercy on you to help you discover what only Him can show you.

I'm expectant.

Thanks

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